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Friday Talking Points -- Trump Forced To Reverse Course

[ Posted Friday, July 24th, 2020 – 18:10 UTC ]

President Donald Trump does not like being told what to do. To be fair, very few people ever do. But Trump usually goes his own way and blows off those telling him he must do this or mustn't do that, and things have generally worked out for him in the end anyway. This week, however, was markedly different.

Trump is obviously being told -- over and over again -- that he is going to lose the upcoming election to Joe Biden because the public just does not trust him to handle the current coronavirus crisis (or any other crisis, for that matter). Trump's political advisors evidently made that plain to Trump this week, and forced him to chart a radically different course, in the hopes of salvaging his chances in the election.

The week started off with an announcement that Trump's coronavirus press briefings would suddenly reappear. They disappeared two months ago, right after Trump moronically told everyone that injecting bleach (or "light") might be a dandy way to fight off the infection. Since then, Trump's poll numbers have plummeted as more and more Americans get infected every day (to the tune of almost 70,000 per day now) and the death toll approaches 150,000. Trump's polling is related to his utter failure at handling the crisis, quite obviously. So the White House decided it was time to put Trump in front of the cameras again, in desperation.

Trump has so far (without having watched today's, we should point out) appeared alone at the podium. No doctors, no medical experts, no epidemiologists have appeared with him. Trump woodenly reads his prepared remarks -- with very little deviation from the script -- and then answers a very few questions from reporters. These briefings have been much tighter than before, clocking in at around a half-hour each day. But you just know Trump hates having to read from a script, so we'll have to wait and see how long this state of affairs will last.

The words put into Trump's mouth are also not to his liking, because he had to reverse himself on several major issues this week. First, he has now been talked into wearing a mask and is also (halfheartedly) now endorsing their use by everyone. Second, he flat-out admitted that all his previous rosy talk had been nothing short of lies, finally admitting that the pandemic would: "probably, unfortunately, get worse before it gets better." This may be the first true thing he's ever said about the pandemic -- or the first true thing he's said in the past few months, at any rate.

Of course, being Trump, not everything he said was the truth: "Earlier this week, Trump boasted that his administration has met most governors' requests for supplies. That's not true. Officials in Oregon, Indiana, Georgia, New Hampshire, Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, North Carolina, Maryland, Michigan, Idaho, Utah and Washington told ABC News they are either still waiting for requests to be fulfilled, had identified orders that were never filled or have made requests they understand are still being processed." Maybe this is what Trump was talking about when he tried a last-ditch effort to be cheerful: "The country is in very good shape, other than if you look South and West." Um... OK. If you just don't look at all those dead people, then things are really peachy-keen!

Yesterday was the biggest reversal, however, as Trump pathetically tried to take credit for a decision quite obviously forced upon him by others, as he officially scrapped the plans for his tremendous, powerful convention in Jacksonville, Florida. This was especially embarrassing for Trump, since the whole reason he moved it from Charlotte was so that he could have a big, tightly-packed, maskless crowd cheering his every utterance. Trump petulantly decided to move the convention to Jacksonville in the first place precisely because the Democratic governor of North Carolina refused to allow the Republican National Committee to do whatever it wanted in Charlotte, health restrictions be damned. So all of Trump's window-dressing talk yesterday about how he was only cancelling Jacksonville because of his concern for "safety" was downright laughable.

That's a pretty bad week for Trump, in terms of being told to do things he really didn't want to do. So far, he hasn't totally erupted on Twitter or elsewhere, but that volcano could blow at any moment, really. It usually has at similar times in the past.

Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci -- who was notably absent from the White House briefing room all week -- got to throw out the first pitch of the truncated baseball season. Both teams kneeled en masse before the game, too. This obviously got under Trump's paper-thin skin, as he had to brag (during a coronavirus press briefing, no less) that he'll be throwing out a first pitch at an unspecified upcoming Yankees game. Too bad there won't be crowds of New Yorkers to let Trump know what they really think of him (as only New Yorkers can...).

Fauci's pitch made most of the distance to the plate, but was pretty wide. Hey, the guy's 79 years old, so that's pretty good. But it did lead to one hilarious line from "The Daily 202" column at the Washington Post: "Tony Fauci threw the first pitch at the Nationals home opener and ensured the ball was socially distant from the catcher." Heh.

Getting back to Trump, though, it's really not that surprising that he is now chafing at being told what he can and cannot do these days, since his poll numbers keep hitting new lows. Trump has now registered in multiple recent national polls down an astonishing 15 points to Joe Biden. But that's not the end of the bad news, since Biden is also beating him in just about every battleground state you can name. Recent Fox News polls showed Trump down 9 points to Biden in Michigan, down 11 points in Pennsylvania, and down 13 points in Minnesota. Another poll showed Biden winning Florida by 13 points. And Trump and Biden are neck and neck (Biden is up one point, but it's essentially a tie) in Texas.

Trump is also losing badly in the suburbs. So Team Trump has come up with a plan to win all those suburban moms and dads back: FEAR! Be afraid! Be very afraid! Because that's all they've got, really.

Trump thinks that changing a federal fair-housing regulation for the express purpose of keeping the suburbs white is going to be some sort of game-changer for him. He bragged about this effort in a recent tweet: "The Suburban Housewives of America must read this article. Biden will destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream. I will preserve it, and make it even better!" Unfortunately for him, the suburbs no longer exist in the 1950s, meaning this nakedly racist attempt at fearmongering will likely fail.

Please remember, Trump tried the same tactic in the 2018 midterms, and it failed pretty miserably back then. Remember all the fearmongering about "the caravan"? Now Trump is fearmongering about colored people being able to (gasp!) move into the suburbs, and fearmongering about (as he puts it): "professional anarchists, violent mobs or arsonists, looters, criminals, rioters, antifa" who will soon be marching from the city centers out to the 'burbs to terrorize the populace and pillage everyone's house. And no, this is not an exaggeration, as Trump's latest campaign ad plainly shows.

Trump is ginning up this fear by sending federal police into cities where they are not wanted, in order to gain some scary television footage he can then use in his political ads. The only problem for him is that most Americans support the protesters, and the videos they are seeing on their evening news show the federal uniformed thugs beating people up and pepper-spraying them while they are offering no resistance at all. A Navy veteran in Portland, Oregon walked up to the federal camo-clad cops and asked them whether they remembered their oath to the Constitution or not. He stands with his hands at his side while the cops spray a chemical weapon in his face and flail on his arms and legs with a nightstick. This resulted in broken bones in one arm. A nude woman (dubbed "Naked Athena") struck yoga poses in front of the riot police, and they shot pepper balls at her feet. That is the kind of thing the American public is seeing, and to say they're not reacting how Trump wants them to is an understatement.

To top off his "law and order" stance, Trump publicly wished accused sex-trafficker and underage pimp Ghislaine Maxwell the best of wishes, from the White House podium: "I just wish her well, frankly." This clip has already been turned into an anti-Trump ad by the Lincoln Project. As well it should be.

So what has Joe Biden been up to this week? He released a video of a chat he had with Barack Obama over Trump's disastrous presidency, and he rolled out a new plan to help actual citizens:

The proposal, which would cost $775 billion over 10 years, would provide universal preschool to 3-and 4-year-old children, fund the construction of new child-care facilities and offer tax credits and grants to help pay for care positions for the young and the elderly.

It would be funded in part by rolling back some tax breaks for real estate investors and by "taking steps to increase tax compliance for high-income earners," according to the Biden campaign.

That's a pretty stark difference between the two candidates' campaigns, you've got to admit. And we now have just over 100 days until the election, folks. Buckle up, though, because this ride is only going to get more frantic as the clock ticks down.

 

Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week

We have two very important awards to hand out, but first there was one tweet which caught our eye: "Gay Vegan Socialist Elected in Brooklyn." This celebrated the fact that there is a progressive tidal wave taking over New York's statehouse, as more and more centrist and even conservative Democrats get primaried out. The Working Families Party claimed 31 victories in New York's recent statehouse races, while the Democratic Socialists of America won four races. This should lead to the most progressive state government ever seen in the Empire State, so congratulations are in order for all of them.

And as usual, there are several groups of Republicans who are ineligible for any of our awards but who are nonetheless churning out great anti-Trump ads that are highly amusing to watch. One of these groups is even called "Republican Voters Against Trump," just to twist the knife.

But there were two Democrats who really stood out this week. The first, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, was easily the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week for her firm response to an ugly event that took place on the Capitol steps. Here was the initial report, from The Hill:

Rep. Ted Yoho (R-Fla.) was coming down the steps on the east side of the Capitol on Monday, having just voted, when he approached [Rep. Alexandria] Ocasio-Cortez, who was ascending into the building to cast a vote of her own.

In a brief but heated exchange, which was overheard by a reporter, Yoho told Ocasio-Cortez she was "disgusting" for recently suggesting that poverty and unemployment are driving a spike in crime in New York City during the coronavirus pandemic.

"You are out of your freaking mind," Yoho told her.

Ocasio-Cortez shot back, telling Yoho he was being "rude."

The two then parted ways. Ocasio-Cortez headed into the building, while Yoho, joined by Rep. Roger Williams (R-Texas), began descending toward the House office buildings. A few steps down, Yoho offered a parting thought to no one in particular.

"Fucking bitch," he said.

Ocasio-Cortez has been (we apologize for using this term, but we feel it is entirely justified in this instance) bitch-slapping Yoho around, ever since. Her first reaction was to tweet:

I never spoke to Rep. Yoho before he decided to accost me on the steps of the nation's Capitol yesterday.

Believe it or not, I usually get along fine w/ my GOP colleagues. We know how to check our legislative sparring at the committee door.

But hey, "b*tches" get stuff done.

This is a callback to a brilliant appearance by Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live back when Hillary Clinton was running against Barack Obama for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, we should point out (just in case you've never seen the hilarious video).

Yoho was then forced (by his own party's leadership, most likely) to issue one of those non-apology apologies, on the House floor. In it, he offered up some caveat-filled nonsense: "The offensive name-calling words attributed to me by the press were never spoken to my colleagues, and if they were construed that way, I apologize for their misunderstanding." Please note that he is not actually denying he said the words, just that he never said them "to my colleagues." In other words, it was OK because I didn't say it to her face, just to a reporter. No biggie, right?

He also wrapped himself in some rather impressive folderol, after pointing out that he has a wife and two daughters: "I cannot apologize for my passion or for loving my God, my family, and my country."

The next day, Ocasio-Cortez rose to give her own House floor speech. This video has already been viewed millions of times, and we heartily encourage everyone who hasn't to watch her entire speech, because it is indeed one for the ages.

After repeating Yoho's ugly words verbatim -- just in case anyone missed the news stories -- Ocasio-Cortez took the moral high road, while rejecting Yoho's "excuses" and non-apology:

Mr. Yoho mentioned that he has a wife and two daughters. I am two years younger than Mr. Yoho's youngest daughter. I am someone's daughter, too. My father, thankfully, is not alive to see how Mr. Yoho treated his daughter. My mother got to see Mr. Yoho's disrespect on the floor of this House towards me on television, and I am here because I have to show my parents that I am their daughter and that they did not raise me to accept abuse from men.

. . .

Having a daughter does not make a man decent. Having a wife does not make a decent man. Treating people with dignity and respect makes a decent man.

. . .

When you do that to any woman, what Mr. Yoho did was give permission to other men to do that to his daughters. In using that language in front of the press, he gave permission to use that language against his wife, his daughters, women in his community and I am here to stand up to say that is not acceptable.

This is truly a historic feminist speech, even though it is only about ten minutes long. Ocasio-Cortez got a whole hour to speak, and after her own short address, deferred to other House members who echoed her sentiments. It was beyond impressive, all around. Which is why A.O.C. is easily our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week.

But we've also got one more award to hand out, a Most Impressive Democrat Lifetime Achievement Award, which must be issued posthumously to Representative John Lewis.

John Lewis was the youngest person to speak at Martin Luther King Jr.'s "March On Washington" rally at the Lincoln Memorial, and he was the last surviving person who spoke to the crowd that day. To say an era has closed with his passing is not an overstatement at all. Lewis was an outsized presence for good in national politics, but he will perhaps best be remembered for being the first person to be savagely beaten by the police at the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama, in March of 1965. Never forget that Lewis rose to fame for protesting injustice. Those protesting in the streets today owe him an enormous debt, in other words.

Lewis was also an incredibly moral and righteous presence in Congress, of course, which is one reason why he's going to lie in state in the Capitol next week. But Democrats should really honor his memory by making a concerted and massive push to pass a new voting rights act, to replace the one the Supreme Court all but threw out. This effort has been going on a long time, and Nancy Pelosi has already passed several voting rights bills, but they should now all be consolidated into one piece of legislation that bears his name: the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

This would truly be the best way to honor his memory. All we can do ourselves is to give him our own Most Impressive Democrat Lifetime Achievement Award, which is a poor substitute indeed.

[Congratulate Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on her House contact page, to let her know you appreciate her efforts. And there will be a public viewing of John Lewis on the steps of the Capitol (since the Rotunda would be less safe) next week, for anyone who wants to pay their respects.]

 

Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week

This one is pretty easy, even if he's been out of the public eye for four decades. Here's the whole sordid story:

Michael "Ozzie" Myers was indicted earlier this week on charges of "conspiring to violate voting rights by fraudulently stuffing the ballot boxes for specific candidates in the 2014, 2015, and 2016 primary elections, bribery of an election official, falsification of records, voting more than once in federal elections, and obstruction of justice," according to a Justice Department statement.

Myers served as the representative for Pennsylvania's 1st Congressional District from November 1976 until October 1980, when he became the first lawmaker to be expelled from the House of Representatives since the Civil War after being ensnared in the FBI sting operation known as Abscam.

During an exchange with an undercover agent posing as an intermediary for a fictional Arab sheikh, Myers was infamously recorded saying, "Money talks in this business and bullshit walks." He was subsequently convicted of bribery and conspiracy charges, and sentenced to serve three years in prison in 1981.

Myers is now charged "with conspiring with and bribing" former Philadelphia Judge of Elections Domenick Demuro, who pleaded guilty in March and was convicted in May for "his role in accepting bribes to cast fraudulent ballots and certifying false voting results during the 2014, 2015, and 2016 primary elections" in the city, according to the Justice Department.

This is not exactly helpful right now, obviously. 'Nuff said. Myers was easily the winner of this week's Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award.

[Michael "Ozzie" Myers is a private citizen, and our blanket policy is not to provide contact information for such persons, sorry.]

 

Friday Talking Points

Volume 583 (7/24/20)

We have a rather mixed and varied bag of talking points this week. As always, please use responsibly.

 

1
   Worse indeed

Ya think?

"President Trump finally was forced to admit this week that the coronavirus pandemic is, quote, going to get worse before it gets better, unquote. After pushing states to reopen their economies dangerously early and thus guaranteeing a much wider outbreak, Trump has finally realized that he has massively screwed up. And things are getting worse incredibly fast. When the virus first hit, it took 45 days for the second million Americans to become infected. We then went from two million to three million infected in 27 days. It has taken only 15 days to add the fourth million. These are real people, Mister President, and they're getting sick and dying at an accelerated rate. The daily death totals has risen once again to over 1,000 per day. That is 1,000 families who have lost a loved one each and every day. We are fast heading toward the milestone of 150,000 Americans dead. How many of those could have easily been prevented if Trump hadn't rushed reopening? Sadly, we will never know."

 

2
   It's back to school time!

This is a pathetically easy line to draw -- so draw it!

"Donald Trump moved his convention speech from North Carolina to Florida because he thought he could dictate his own rules for the crowd there, after a Democratic governor told him North Carolina's health safety rules would not be waived. Now Trump has been forced to cancel his Jacksonville rally because he says he's very concerned with everyone's safety. That's all pretty laughable when you think about it, but what is definitely not funny at all is that Trump is still pushing very hard for every schoolchild in America to go back to physical classrooms in the fall, no matter how safe it is for them to do so. Which means Trump cares more about Republican politicians at his convention than he does for your own children."

 

3
   Or maybe there was another reason...

Shades of Tulsa?

"There is already a lot of speculation that Trump really cancelled his big convention speech because he knew how few prominent Republicans were even going to bother to show up. It'd be pretty embarrassing to have most of the congressional Republicans sit out their own party's convention, after all. And what would it have done for Trump's re-election campaign if he spoke to a crowd as pathetically small as showed up at his last rally, in Tulsa? In other words: what if a president gave a nomination acceptance speech and nobody came?"

 

4
   McConnell dithers while Rome burns

Senate Republicans deserve all the scorn Democrats can heap upon them, at this particular moment in time.

"Mitch McConnell said, many weeks ago, back when the Democratic House passed a new coronavirus relief bill, that everyone should just take a 'pause.' We'd have plenty of time before the August vacation to put together some sort of bill, if we even needed one, McConnell told everyone. He promised a Republican draft bill would be released at the start of this week. And yet all week long Republicans dithered among themselves and achieved nothing. And let me point out that these disagreements are entirely within the Republican Party, because they have refused to even begin the negotiations with Democrats over what will be in the bill. This is Republican-on-Republican incompetence, folks, plain and simple. Meanwhile, more people filed for unemployment this week than last, the unemployment aid from the previous bailout bill is about to expire for tens of millions of families, the protections against evictions are also about to end, and the number of cases of coronavirus continues to skyrocket because of the complete absence of any leadership from Washington. In normal times, Republicans incompetently wasting a bunch of time would be rather amusing, but these days it is nothing short of deadly. People are dying out there, Mitch, so please do your job so Democrats can begin to fix whatever inadequate bill you finally come up with. This is no laughing matter."

 

5
   Republicans in disarray!

We wrote about this yesterday, in much more detail, if anyone's interested.

"While we've all grown used to seeing utter chaos from the White House, it has now spread to the entire Republican Party, it seems. While Trump flails around on issues both foreign and domestic, Senate Republicans still haven't agreed among themselves what should be in the next pandemic relief bill. In the House, some Tea Partiers are leading a push to oust Liz Cheney from their leadership, because she believes Anthony Fauci more than she believes Trump. Trump cancelled his big convention speech because so few congressional Republicans were even going to show up, and Republicans are deeply split on the issue of the Confederacy. A bill passed the House this week to remove Confederate statues from the Capitol, and over 70 Republicans voted for it. The Defense Department budget bill passed (in different form) both houses of Congress with veto-proof margins, even though both bills would force the Pentagon to rename the bases that honor Confederate officers. Trump has said he'll veto it, but if he does it'll likely be the first time a Trump veto is overturned. Meanwhile, Maryland Governor Larry Hogan revealed that several of Trump's own cabinet members begged him to run against Trump this year. The Republican Party seems to be splintering and only concerned with arguing among themselves. There's really only one newspaper headline possible, in fact: Republicans In Disarray."

 

6
   Who could he possibly have in mind?

Democrats are also moving forward on a House bill that would rein in the presidential pardon power, and an amendment to this bill was just offered by Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland. The amendment would make it illegal for a president to pardon themselves. One wonders if Raskin has anyone in particular in mind -- see if you can tell from his statement about his amendment:

It is essential that Congress clarify right now that no president of any party can use his pardon power to pardon himself or commute his own sentence. If we don't make that essential constitutional truth clear, a corrupt and incorrigible president could embezzle from the government, take bribes for pardoning criminals, engage in foreign money laundering schemes, commit massive tax fraud, aid and abet sex traffickers, and obstruct justice by covering up all these crimes -- and then simply pardon himself or herself to permanently avoid prosecution for these crimes for all time.

 

7
   Flee for the hills!

Hypocrisy rears its racist head, once again.

"Does anyone remember the massive hissy fit Republicans pitched when President Barack Obama appeared in a tan suit in the Oval Office? Back in those days, Republicans had to work hard to manufacture reasons to be outraged at the first Black man to hold the office, of course, and this is a prime example. They expressed their outrage (while clutching firmly at their pearls) over the disrespect shown the Oval Office by such informal attire. So I certainly was waiting to hear the same outrage expressed this week, when Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell appeared in an Oval Office meeting with the president in a tan suit. However, for some strange reason, zero Republicans seemed to be offended by it. Funny thing, that, isn't it?"

-- Chris Weigant

 

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617 Comments on “Friday Talking Points -- Trump Forced To Reverse Course”

  1. [1] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Three cheers for AOC as MIDOTW!

  2. [2] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Big Money Joe should be MDDOTW. Drumpf is the first racist president? Somebody should introduce him to his target audience. It's not Republicans.

  3. [3] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    This effort has been going on a long time, and Nancy Pelosi has already passed several voting rights bills, but they should now all be consolidated into one piece of legislation that bears his name: the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

    That is a wonderful idea and such a perfect name for that legislation!

    This would truly be the best way to honor his memory. All we can do ourselves is to give him our own Most Impressive Democrat Lifetime Achievement Award, which is a poor substitute indeed.

    But, a lovely gesture, all the same.

  4. [4] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Those first five or six paragraphs were a laugh riot, just to let you know. :-)

  5. [5] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    The Not Fucking Around Coalition will be marching with their guns in Louisville tomorrow, so of course, the III% Security Force is planning to engage in some counter-demonstration soldier cosplay too. The Breonna Taylor demonstrations are ongoing and the storm trooper police were out in force already this evening shutting down a downtown street party that included a trampoline. The helicopters are buzzing non-stop. What could go wrong?

  6. [6] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    I don't think that Big Orange likes making those hostage videos.

  7. [7] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    8 Can you identify an elephant?

    It's not the hardest test.

  8. [8] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    9 Is suburban housewife really still a thing?

    Hi Ghislaine!

  9. [9] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Holy Moley, AOC's speech was killer. I wonder if Rep. Yoho is in hiding until they surgically remove that telephone pole she jammed up his backside.

    She writes her own speeches, says the interwebs. I think Joe has to -- just has to give AOC the Keynote Address at whatever unconventional convention the Dems hold.

    I think this gal will be Speaker or even President** within the decade, for I believe she has Obama-level talent.

    **Remember boys and girls, that once Cheetogod is gone and rotting in prison we will be once again capitalizing "President."

  10. [10] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    Chris, both the MIDOTW and the 'in memoriam' honor were well-deserved. Thank you for highlighting both of these impressive people, who are great examples of humanity, who choose to be Democrat.

    * Reading the text of Rep Ocasio-Cortez's statement is NOT sufficient to convey the full impact. She was "cool as a cucumber" as she evicerated her "colleague" with his own words (or should I say "hoisted with his own petard"?). For me, the most moving moment of the entire 8+ minutes was her voice quavering when she referenced HER father.
    * In one of the 'life in pictures' of Rep Lewis that I saw this week were several pictures of him still going strong later in life. One was of him participating in a sit-in against gun violence (in the House Chambers, no less). He lived his principles until his dying day.

  11. [11] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    No one in particular can POSSIBLY come to mind when reading this, right?

    'It would be funded in part by rolling back some tax breaks for real estate investors and by "taking steps to increase tax compliance for high-income earners," according to the Biden campaign.'

    Chris, surely you meant to insert at least a "Heh" after this delicious morsel, right?

  12. [12] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    Re Talking Point #2:
    Remember that the 'DC' stands for 'Disease Control'. Like every other part of the executive branch, Trump has politicized what should be a non-partisan body whose decisions are based on science.
    '.. latest guidelines heavily emphasize sending students back to school this fall, despite what the CDC described as "mixed evidence about whether returning to school results in increased transmission or outbreaks" of COVID-19...

    One of the CDC's primary arguments for reopening schools this fall is that K-12 students are "less likely" to get coronavirus than adults.'
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-cdc-guidelines-emphasize-schools-reopening-in-the-fall-despite-surge-in-coronavirus-cases/

  13. [13] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    John From Censornati[2] I completely agree. (I've already suggested we award Biden a life-time MDDOTW for all his gaffes for the rest of his political life.)
    Setting aside the slave-owning Presidents before the Civil War, surely Biden read at least one article about Andrew Jackson after Trump named him his 'favorite president'? Could Biden have possibly ignored all of the articles about Andrew Johnson written during the recent House proceedings and Senate trial? I finally learned the true reason that he was the first President to be impeached: yes, he 'defied Congress' (what I was taught), but the motivation was to subvert the Republicans' legislation which guaranteed the newly-freed slaves the same rights as their former owners.

  14. [14] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    This happened too late for this week's FTPs, but perhaps will make into next week's. (Possible heading: "If Trump believes he has the Constitutional authority, why didn't he do this three years ago?)
    '"The four orders I'm signing today will completely restructure the prescription drug market," said Mr Trump, who has long criticised "astronomical" prices.

    The measures would allow discounts and import of cheaper drugs from abroad.
    ...
    According to a 2019 report by the OECD group of industrialised nations, the US spends roughly twice the average amount spent by other member countries on pharmaceuticals per head.'
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53534950

  15. [15] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    MtnCaddy [9]: I love the snark!

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    And I won ANOTHER bet..

    I bet that the total complete scumbag Democrat/Black Lies Matter member who tortured an innocent toddler for the Democrat Party would not be singled out for MDDOTW award..

    AND...

    That the totally perverse and disgusting sexist messages coming from Team Biden would ALSO be ignored...

    I called it perfectly...

    Chosen was some obscure Democrat from some obscure 40 yr old crime..

    Party Uber Alles still reigns supreme here in Weigantia... :(

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    This effort has been going on a long time, and Nancy Pelosi has already passed several voting rights bills, but they should now all be consolidated into one piece of legislation that bears his name: the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

    Democrats are trying to make up for all the time they opposed the Civil Rights and Voting Rights legislation..

    And then they go and cock it all up by naming it after a racist... :eyeroll:

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    Rusty,

    Remember that the 'DC' stands for 'Disease Control'. Like every other part of the executive branch, Trump has politicized what should be a non-partisan body whose decisions are based on science.

    Out and out total and complete bullshit..

    It was Odumbo who politicized the CDC by making it an entity to study and promote GUN CONTROL, which is far FAR outside their purview..

    Get your facts straight or hit the road...

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's hilarious how ya'all swear by the CDC and their reports..

    Right up to the point that the CDC says something that doesn't support your Trump/America hating agenda..

    Then, ALL OF THE SUDDEN, the CDC is "politicized by President Trump".... :D

    Ya'all are so transparently Party slaves it's pathetic...

    I'll be glad when the lot of ya are all gone when President Trump sweeps thru re-election easy...

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats are now the riot party

    For almost two months, Portland has been under siege from antifa and other extremists. These troops of the left terrorize the downtown area every night. They with paramilitary precision. As organized anarchists, they deploy a wide array of less than lethal weapons to wound police, ranging from bats and bricks to lasers shot in the eyes of officers to permanently damage their sight. All of this is to further their goal to overturn our society and radically transform the country.

    If the news media cared to tell the public the truth, it would have been a top story on nightly broadcasts for weeks. The antifa rioters even tried to break into and burn down a federal courthouse in the city. The campaign of intimidation and destruction is plainly domestic terrorism. But the one reason the siege on Portland has become a major news story is because the administration is trying to restore law and order to the beleaguered city, and Democrats hysterically oppose any such action.
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/508687-democrats-are-now-the-riot-party

    And ya'all HONESTLY believe that sane patriotic Americans are going to vote for the toddler-torturing sexist-spewing cop-killing Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party???

    Without ya'all's cherry picked polls (which have been PROVEN to be shit) there is not a single solitary fact to support that ANY Democrat will win in the election...

    I get it.. Ya'all are Party slaves and ya HAVE to toe the Party line..

    By all means.. It will just make the gloating come 3 Nov 2020 that much sweeter for me.. :D

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Trump has rightly sent in federal reinforcements to Portland, while many Democrats have circled the wagons on behalf of anarchism. Speaker Nancy Pelosi referred to federal agents deployed to Portland as storm troopers. Other members of her party have spoken of federal law enforcement officers as some sort of invading army unwelcome in urban centers. New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, deep into his campaign to utterly ruin that city, declared that he would take Trump to court if any federal officers were deployed to address the surging violence there.

    This reaction is stunningly reckless and cynical, even for Democrats in an important election year. But it is not in the least surprising as the wave of uprisings against the police have quickly become a political liability. What started as the resurrection of the Black Lives Matter movement has since morphed into a general mobilization of activists and marxists who seek to turn this country into a social justice utopia. They have to focus on Trump at the moment, or else more Americans might start to figure out what lunacy the left is inflicting on Portland, among other places.

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter SUPPORT the terrorism and the cop-attacking mobs...

    And ya'all SERIOUSLY think that will appeal to the vast majority of American people??

    Put down the crack pipe, people and embrace reality..

    President Trump will be re-elected.. This is fact...

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats’ Pennsylvania Trouble

    The party’s economic policies are alienating working-class voters.

    Earlier this month, Joe Biden announced his economic plan near his hometown of Scranton, part of the anthracite coal region that once fueled America’s industrial ascendance and, in 2016, secured Donald Trump’s presidential victory. Biden’s remarks were filled with the populist rhetoric that resonates with working-class voters, yet this crucial electoral demographic remains apprehensive about Democratic policies. This is especially true in Pennsylvania, where Democrats’ positions on energy and the Covid-19 lockdowns are alienating, rather than attracting, the blue-collar voters who, for decades, formed the party’s political foundation.

    Polls consistently show Biden leading in Pennsylvania, a largely suburban state where regions like Philadelphia’s “collar” counties, metro Harrisburg, and the Lehigh Valley increasingly trend Democratic. But Biden’s favorable position doesn’t translate into a preference for his party’s economic platform. One recent poll, for instance, showed Trump leading his Democratic opponent by a 51-36 margin among those who see the economy as the top issue. As Jim Lee, president and CEO of Susquehanna Polling and Research, which conducted the poll, told a local Fox affiliate: “If this becomes an economy pocketbook election, you can’t rule Donald Trump out because, on the key issue most voters care about, he’s winning among jobs voters.”
    https://www.city-journal.org/democrats-pennsylvania-trouble

    Like I said... AND like the FACTS bear out..

    Your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party only has ONE thing going for it.. Polls..

    And 2016 proved beyond any doubt that polls cannot be trusted..

    On the flip side, the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party stands for toddler torturing, sexist spewing, cop killing and attacking, looting and destroying..

    There is NOTHING in the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party platform that appeals to sane patriotic Americans..

    NO..... THING....

    And the fact that you still think President Trump will lose is a testament to ya'all's capacity for self-delusion...

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    Speaking of polls, let's take a gander thru recent history, shall we..

    In July of 2016, Clinton was up against Trump, 47% to 37%...

    Remind me who won again???

    In July of 2004, John Kerry was up against Bush, 48 to 42

    Remind me who won again???

    In 1980, Jimmy Carter was up against Ronald Reagan, 39 to 32

    Remind me who won again???

    History is replete with Democrats swearing by the polls only to go on and LOSE the election..

    2020 will be no different than 2106...

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    History is replete with Democrats swearing by the polls only to go on and LOSE the election..

    And what's so hilarious about it all is that ya'all have FACTS to show ya'all how bullshit polls are.

    Yea, in 2016, ya'all had very little warning, I'll grant ya'all that.. So, leaning on polls is understandable and slightly less moronic and delusional..

    But in 2020, ya'all *KNOW* that your polls are shit...

    And yet, ya'all follow them anyways.. That level of self-delusion in the face of overwhelming FACTS is definitely signs of a deeper psychosis..

    The ONLY thing the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party has going for it are the polls..

    NOTHING ELSE...

    And no one debates this factual point because no one CAN refute this factual point..

    "Silence = consent"
    -The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party

    I accept ya'all's concession...

    It's tough being the Alpha Dog around here all the time.. :D

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    “Joe Biden is really one of us. I always loved the man. But he scares me now. Is he embracing the new Green Deal or whatever they are calling it? He needs to get his shit straight.”
    -Pennsylvania Democrat

    Again, I have to marvel at ya'all's self-delusion...

    Ya'all *ONLY* have the polls in your favor.. Polls that have PROVEN to be totally worthless..

    Everything else is going against the Democrat Party and for President Trump....

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    Research Shows Students Falling Months Behind During Virus Disruptions

    The abrupt switch to remote learning wiped out academic gains for many students in America, and widened racial and economic gaps. Catching up in the fall won’t be easy.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/coronavirus-education-lost-learning.html

    Remote learning is NOT sufficient to teach America's children properly.

    This is documented as fact by the NY Grime of all places...

    ANYONE who supports keeping the schools closed is pursuing a Party slavery agenda and doesn't care a whit about the welfare of our children...

    This is fact...

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    Black armed militia planning Louisville march claims it’s ‘Not Fucking Around’

    A Louisville councilman urges residents to stay away from the city’s downtown area while Saturday's march is underway.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-armed-militia-planning-louisville-march-claims-its-not-f-ing-around

    Ya'all hate militias..

    Unless, they are toddler torturing DEMOCRAT/ANTIFA/BLACKLIESMATTER militias..

    Then ya'all LOVE them...

    Hypocrisy and Party Slavery at it's finest..

  28. [28] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    italyrusty (do we know your actual name, I can't remember),

    I think what Biden meant is that there has never been an American president quite like Trump. And, I think he's right, with respect to being racist or anything else.

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    Grand Master Jay, head of the “Not Fucking Around Coalition,” refers to the U.S. Constitution when talking about his Black armed militia group, which plans to march in Louisville, Ky., on Saturday.

    “Once it gets to that point where it looks like the government is non-responsive to the will of the people, the Constitution says to [form a] militia to address the grievances of the people,” he told Louisville FOX affiliate WDRB-TV.

    “I didn’t write it,” he says about one of America’s founding documents. “They wrote it. We just abide by it. So that’s our destination, because when it looks like the government is being indifferent to the people, the people have the right to form themselves – and arm themselves — to ask those questions.”

    GRAND MASTER???

    Isn't that like GRAND DRAGON???

    Once again, proving that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party has not fallen far from it's racist roots..

    Once again, I find it surprising that ya'all condone this...

    No, actually that's not factually accurate... It's not surprising at all, considering ya'all's recent history...

    I mean, if ya'all can't bring yerselves to condemn the torture of an innocent toddler by Democrat and BlackLiesMatter scum, then supporting this is simply par for the course...

    :eyeroll:

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    And, I think he's right, with respect to being racist or anything else.

    Yer right. There has never been such an effective President & leader as President Trump.. At least, not in our lifetimes..

    I have already debunked (and ya'all conceded) that the racist accusation is complete and utter bullshit..

    But if you want to revisit the debate, fine by me..

    Give me a single solitary fact that supports to the exclusion of all else that President Trump is racist.

    You can't because no such facts exist..

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    The focus of the group’s march, he says, will be an attempt to seek justice for Breonna Taylor, a 26-year-old woman who was fatally shot March 13 during a police raid in her Louisville home.

    The cops were simply returning fire when Taylor's boyfriend opened up on them...

    Her death was a tragic accident but clearly the blame lies with the boyfriend for opening fire and not realizing that Taylor was in the line of fire..

  32. [32] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @jfc,

    "big money" joe? really??? are you channeling don harris or what?

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ahhh JL *AND* Liz are here.. The intelligence factor just went up dramatically..

    'Course it was already high up there due to my presence.. :D heh

  34. [34] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Big money Joe is quite laughable. I think that's where JFC was going with this but, I'm never really quite sure ... :)

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    Feds clash with Portland protesters again, hours after judge denied Oregon's request to restrict agents' actions

    Among various organized groups, including Healthcare Workers Protest, Teachers against Tyrants, Lawyers for Black Lives and the “Wall of Moms,” was Portland Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty, who spoke to protesters outside the Justice Center.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/feds-clash-portland-protesters-judge-oregon-restrict-agents

    Po' lil Oregon snowflakes whine to the courts and the courts tell them to FO... :D

    When are you Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter toddler torturing scumbags going to learn??

    You CAN'T win against federal police... The law and every sane patriotic American are on the side of the cops and President Trump...

    It's THAT simple...

  36. [36] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    'Course it was already high up there due to my presence.. :D heh

    Indeed.

  37. [37] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @cw re: (talking point 2)

    the danger is not so much to the children themselves, but to the community overall. kids under 14 are highly unlikely to be severely affected by covid (high schools a bit more likely); but having a giant petri dish at every school endangers parents, grandparents, school staff and faculty, as well as any other adult the child knows or has contact with, and anybody THEY know or have contact with. it's a community spread issue.

    JL

  38. [38] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It's another hot and sunny day in sunny southern Ontario so, you know what that means ...

  39. [39] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua, we really are all in this together, aren't we ...

  40. [40] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Hopefully, we will be able to get out of it together, too ...

  41. [41] 
    Michale wrote:

    the danger is not so much to the children themselves, but to the community overall.

    Exactly.. Ya'all's OWN CDC has stated that children are virtually immune to covid..

    And, since the survival rate of covid is 99.69% for those under 70, the danger to the community is nil as well..

    I mean, if a teacher is willing to take a bullet for a single child, then they damn well can take feeling really bad for 36 hours for their entire class...

    Remote learning is a complete and utter failure.. This is fact...

    So, only those who either hate children (which DOES describe a few people here) or are a slave to Party loyalty wants to keep schools closed..

    SCIENCE says it's safe to open schools.

    Ya'all will NEVER be able to use the WE'RE PRO SCIENCE argument ever again...

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    At the behest of my lovely wife, I am going to order a mask to wear when I leave the house..

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0407/3914/3845/products/2_de6b8b3e-222f-4b9f-a298-19f257990702_540x.jpg?v=1594085730

    What ya'all think of that one???

  43. [43] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Wow. Now, THAT is a mask. And, it looks like it'll go with almost anything.

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ohio police release surveillance video of suspects who killed sleeping toddler, injured twin; FBI posts reward

    'It’s just these people don’t have a conscience'
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-police-video-suspects-killed-sleeping-toddler-fbi-reward

    And toddler torturing Democrats and Black Lies Matter scumbags move on from torturing toddlers to shooting toddlers..

    And ya'all HONESTLY believe that sane patriotic Americans are going to VOTE for these scumbags and lowlifes??

    On what planet!??

  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    Wow. Now, THAT is a mask. And, it looks like it'll go with almost anything.

    I know, right!!?? :D

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0407/3914/3845/products/17_f1d1b836-2cfe-44ff-8f39-ac39271b229c_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1594092093

    I also like that one..

  46. [46] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Not enough colour variety. You'd be stuck with wearing blue jeans and little else.

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    Here's another good song from my childhood..

    New Jersey, 1977

    https://youtu.be/ERWREcPIoPA

    :D

    I remember the controversy this song had.. :D

  48. [48] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale, you have to bring these tunes tomorrow!

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    Not enough colour variety. You'd be stuck with wearing blue jeans and little else.

    Yea, well, considering I wear shorts (mostly denim) year round, I'm covered.. :D Well, not "covered".. :D

    "OK, she's clean... Well, not really CLEAN, but..."
    -Lunar-Max Guard, MEN IN BLACK III

    :D

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    Michale, you have to bring these tunes tomorrow!

    I will.. 1400hrs???

    There will be political stuff first most likely.. Or maybe not..

    Depends on what has transpired over night..

    But say 1400hrs it's all music from me.. Even if the trolls push my buttons..

    You have my word...

  51. [51] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    But, it is so hard to believe that was from more than 40 years ago!

  52. [52] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of course, 1977 gave us this classic.. :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue2-ZVxpVjc

  53. [53] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Excellent!

  54. [54] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Enough!

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    But, it is so hard to believe that was from more than 40 years ago!

    I know, right!!!!

    Crazy.... We had just moved to New Jersey from San Diego when my dad got a job at Bell Labs... This was prior to the break-up of the phone company...

  56. [56] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    There isn't much that doesn't seem quaint by today's standards.

  57. [57] 
    Michale wrote:
  58. [58] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    And, since the survival rate of covid is 99.69% for those under 70, the danger to the community is nil as well..

    false and misleading. you can't lump in 45 year olds with 18 year olds and call your data valid.

    people in my age range (45-54) are about half as likely to die as say, someone over 55, and about a quarter as likely as someone over 65. only about 6% of covid deaths are solely due to covid, but over half would not have died had they not contracted it.

    JL

  59. [59] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Trump is running a fear campaign and so are the Deathocrats.

    The stark differences you point out are just differences in what to fear.

    Biden offering more empty prmoises of future legislation is not different than what the Deathocrats have been offering and not delivering for decades and is why Trump is in office now and is why we are in the situation we now find ourselves with the pandemic.

    It seems you believe our democracy is in great shape, other than if you look at the big money Deathocrats or RepubliCons. If you just don't look at all those dead people then things are really peachy keen.

    Wake up. Wise up. Rise up.
    Get real.

  60. [60] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Although, 40 years ago PRiSM was singing about the climate apocalypse, loss of privacy by satellite and the double helix and cloning. But, even these songs were of the 'feel good' variety. Even their break-up songs had a kind upbeat bent to them. :)

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    people in my age range (45-54) are about half as likely to die as say, someone over 55, and about a quarter as likely as someone over 65. only about 6% of covid deaths are solely due to covid, but over half would not have died had they not contracted it.

    Says who?? The CDC??

    only about 6% of covid deaths are solely due to covid, but over half would not have died had they not contracted it.

    Exactly... There are very very VERY few deaths that are caused by covid.. The VAST majority of cases of death was that covid was simply contributory..

    That is why I always laugh at Blathy's BS claims that there are xxx,xxx Covid deaths..

    The ACTUAL covid deaths are very very VERY few...

    Just the FACTS...

    If a guy dies in a motorcycle accident and has symptoms, they label it as a covid death...

    OregonHealth reported they had a 98% infected rate when it was actually a 9.8% infection rate..

    These FACTS are exactly why it's impossible to take the fear-mongering seriously..

    It's WILDLY inflated to the point of absurdity...

  62. [62] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Found it!

    There ya go!

  63. [63] 
    Michale wrote:

    Pentagon's UFO hunting department was NOT disbanded in 2012 as stated and could now give public reports every six months amid claims it found 'vehicles not made on this earth'
    The Pentagon's UFO department could now be forced to give reports to the public every six months
    The Senate Intelligence Committee last month called for greater transparency from the secret unit
    Lawmakers said they 'support the efforts' of the 'Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force'
    The move confirmed that such a program still exists
    In 2017 the Pentagon admitted funding a UFO program but said it ended in 2012
    Officials who worked for the program have confirmed it continued
    They also say it discovered objects 'we couldn't make ourselves' and 'off-world vehicles not made on this earth'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8554843/Pentagons-UFO-hunting-department-NOT-disbanded-2012-public-reports.html

    I'll vote for the guy who promises to release ALL information on UFOs and extraterrestrials...

  64. [64] 
    nypoet22 wrote:
  65. [65] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    only about 6% of covid deaths are solely due to covid, but over half would not have died had they not contracted it.

    Exactly... There are very very VERY few deaths that are caused by covid.. The VAST majority of cases of death was that covid was simply contributory..

    did you like only read the first half of the sentence? if not for covid, a majority of those people would still be alive.

  66. [66] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Nypoet (32)-
    Big Money Joe is not channeling me- it is pointing out reality.

    And when it comes to the Deathocrats selling out to big money reality is a real "fucking bitch"-isn't it? :D

  67. [67] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    nypoet22 [32],

    "big money" joe? really???

    To deny that Big Money Joe will be raising enormous amounts of money is absurd. I'm just conceding that point to Don in the hope that he'll start acting like a normal human being again * and leave us with just one troll. The stick hasn't worked. Maybe a carrot will. We should all give it a go.

    * There has been movement in the right direction lately.

  68. [68] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    I spoke too soon.

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    Says who?? The CDC??

    yes.

    OK, so you accept the CDC's findings when they support your argument..

    But you WON'T accept the CDC's findings when it comes to opening schools..

    How is this consistent???

    did you like only read the first half of the sentence? if not for covid, a majority of those people would still be alive.

    Not relevant to my point.

    Blathy claims xxx,xxx people died of covid.. That is NOT factually accurate..

    6% of xxx,xxx died from covid.. All the rest were from other issues.. Like a motorcycle accident.. Or a car accident..

    Say a person THINKS they have covid and shoots themselves.. Did they die from covid?? NO, they did not..

    Blathy's claim is complete and utter bullshit and has NOTHING to do with reality and facts.

    THAT's my point.. And it's a factually accurate point..

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    JFC,

    To deny that Big Money Joe will be raising enormous amounts of money is absurd. I'm just conceding that point to Don in the hope that he'll start acting like a normal human being again * and leave us with just one troll. The stick hasn't worked. Maybe a carrot will. We should all give it a go.

    In other words, you were trolling..

    And ANOTHER confessed troll makes his confession.. :D

    Now we have 3....

  71. [71] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    But you WON'T accept the CDC's findings when it comes to opening schools..

    How is this consistent???

    i've already demonstrated that director redfield's comments do not make that claim as you say they do.

    as for my own opinion, it does not depend only on a government agency, or its current leader. i support those arguments i agree with, and refute those i disagree with, regardless of where those arguments come from.

    JL

  72. [72] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    "We tripped the light fandango
    turned cartwheels cross the floor
    bought into the deception
    that has let us down before

    Life kept getting harder
    as our country flew away
    When we called out for another choice
    we're told some other day

    And so it was la-a-a-a-ter
    With democracy for sale
    That our hope at first just ghostly
    turned a whiter shade of pale."
    -Whiter Shade of Pale parody

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    i've already demonstrated that director redfield's comments do not make that claim as you say they do.

    No.. You tried to spin his words to make it more compatible with the agenda.

    And you totally ignored the report from yesterday saying that the CDC released new guidelines and is pushing HARD to open schools..

    as for my own opinion, it does not depend only on a government agency, or its current leader. i support those arguments i agree with, and refute those i disagree with, regardless of where those arguments come from.

    But it's not consistent to crow how factually accurate the CDC's reports are when they support the agenda and to totally refute those reports from the CDC when the reports don't support the agenda..

    If the CDC is a good and competent agency, then they should be that way, no matter what their reports say...

    You want to use the science as an appeal to authority, but only when it supports the agenda..

  74. [74] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now, if we're talking about the same agency with totally different subjects, then disputing some of their "science" and not others is legitimate..

    Example.. It's easy for me to accept the CDC's findings on covid but dispute the CDC's findings on gun control..

    Two completely and utterly different issue, one of which the CDC is ill equipped to pass judgement on..

    But if you accept the CDC's "wisdom" on covid, then you MUST accept ALL of it's wisdom on covid..

    NOT just the "wisdom" that supports the agenda..

    To do THAT is not consistent..

  75. [75] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    CW-
    JFC (67)-"The stick hasn't worked. Maybe a carrot will. We should all give it a go."

  76. [76] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    if by "agenda" you mean attempting to work while also staying alive, then yes, i'll be as selective as necessary when citing government data in support of my own continued breathing. as to the director's opinion, he made it clear that he was speaking for himself, not on behalf of his agency.

  77. [77] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    But if you accept the CDC's "wisdom" on covid, then you MUST accept ALL of it's wisdom on covid..

    fair enough. i DO NOT accept the CDC's "wisdom" on covid. period, full stop. their data i accept, but their opinions are currently compromised by political concerns.

    JL

  78. [78] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    CW-
    40% of citizens don't vote and many that do vote lesser of two evils out of fear of the other evil.

    That shtick hasn't worked on the 40% that don't vote other than convincing them to not vote which is not a positive outcome or for our country and democracy. (see the pandemic for just one example)

    Maybe the carrot of small donor only candidates will work in a positive manner on some of the 40% that don't vote and some of those that do vote out of fear and lead to a positive outcome for our country and democracy.

    You should inform citizens about this opportunity so they can decide if they want to give it a go.

  79. [79] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Let's make some carrot cake!

  80. [80] 
    Michale wrote:

    If you accept the CDC's "science" on covid, then you MUST accept ALL of it's science..

    Failure to do so is following an agenda.. NOT science..

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    fair enough. i DO NOT accept the CDC's "wisdom" on covid. period, full stop. their data i accept, but their opinions are currently compromised by political concerns.

    Now yer just being obtuse..

    If you accept the DATA from the CDC on covid, then you must accept ALL the data on covid..

    Failure to do so is following an agenda, NOT the data..

  82. [82] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Failure to do so is following an agenda.. NOT science..

    i don't think you're in a position to lecture anyone on what science is or is not. since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between facts and opinions, i'm not sure that any more conversation on the matter would be productive.

  83. [83] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @don,

    66/79

    your use of "fucking bitch" after repeated warnings about inappropriate use of colorful language is one thing. but cake? now that's going too far!!!

    JL

  84. [84] 
    Michale wrote:

    if by "agenda" you mean attempting to work while also staying alive, then yes, i'll be as selective as necessary when citing government data in support of my own continued breathing.

    ANd yet, the FACTS and the DATA show that you are at very VERY low risk from covid..

    Hell, I am in a high risk group and I was really sick for just 36hrs and then I kicked it's ass..

    And it's also documented fact that remote learning is very VERY bad for children..

    Isn't that reason enough to feeling bad for a while to help protect the children???

  85. [85] 
    Michale wrote:

    i don't think you're in a position to lecture anyone on what science is or is not.

    Sure I am... CDC on covid is SCIENCE... And the CDC is pushing HARD to open schools based on the SCIENCE...

    Now, if you want to reject the SCIENCE argument, that's fine..

    But it'll cost ya down the road.. :D

    since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between facts and opinions.

    Not at all.. It's a FACT that the CDC Director said that keeping schools closed is worse for our children than opening them up.

    It's a FACT that CDC's current guidelines push hard for schools to open..

    No opinions necessary.. JUST the facts...

  86. [86] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Not at all.. It's a FACT that the CDC Director said that keeping schools closed is worse for our children than opening them up.

    yes, and it is also a FACT that the statement is his OPINION. his statement begins, "I'm of the point of view that..." it's hard to be any clearer that he is stating an opinion. sheesh!

  87. [87] 
    Michale wrote:

    Awww carp!!

    Reposted for clarity...

    i don't think you're in a position to lecture anyone on what science is or is not.

    Sure I am... CDC on covid is SCIENCE... And the CDC is pushing HARD to open schools based on the SCIENCE...

    Now, if you want to reject the SCIENCE argument, that's fine..

    But it'll cost ya down the road.. :D

    since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between facts and opinions.

    Not at all.. It's a FACT that the CDC Director said that keeping schools closed is worse for our children than opening them up.

    It's a FACT that CDC's current guidelines push hard for schools to open..

    No opinions necessary.. JUST the facts...

  88. [88] 
    Michale wrote:

    yes, and it is also a FACT that the statement is his OPINION. his statement begins, "I'm of the point of view that..." it's hard to be any clearer that he is stating an opinion. sheesh!

    But it's a FACT he said it..

    And, if you accept his and his agency's "opinion" on covid for one thing, then you must accept his opinion on covid on the things that DON'T support your agenda..

    Anything less is not consistent.. You don't accept ALL the science, just the science that supports the agenda..

    Global Warming con all over again...

  89. [89] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Global Warming con all over again...

    the assertion that overall heat on the planet has not gone up significantly more since the advent of human industry is the giant con, and you've fallen for it hard. so in that respect, yes the two situations are similar.

    And, if you accept his and his agency's "opinion" on covid for one thing, then you must accept his opinion on covid on the things that DON'T support your agenda..

    i don't agree with his opinion. and although he made it clear he was speaking for himself and NOT his agency, i would not blindly follow anyone else's opinion either, whether they were from the CDC, the NOAA or the agency of jesus and his apostles. was i unclear on this point?

    JL

  90. [90] 
    Michale wrote:

    the assertion that overall heat on the planet has not gone up significantly more since the advent of human industry is the giant con, and you've fallen for it hard.

    The SCIENCE does not support that assertion...

    The data has to be tweaked and massaged to give ya'all the outcome ya'all desire..

    THIS is fact..

    i don't agree with his opinion.

    ANd yet, you DO agree with his opinions when they support the agenda..

    I see how you STILL ignore the current CDC guidelines which are consistent with the Director's opinion..

    speaking for himself and NOT his agency

    And yet, his agency says the exact same thing..

    But you ignore opinions and facts alike, simply because it doesn't agree with the Party agenda..

    THAT is my point..

    If you want to follow the agenda rather than the science, fine.. It's no skin off my nose...

    But you can't complain that you follow the science, when it's clearly factual that your adherence to science is situational....

  91. [91] 
    Michale wrote:

    You don't follow the opinions of the people you oft quote if they don't agree with the agenda.. Fine..

    It's still inconsistent, but hay, OK..

    New CDC guidelines come down hard in favor of opening schools

    (CNN)New US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines on education and child care come down hard in favor of opening schools, saying children don't suffer much from coronavirus, are less likely than adults to spread it and suffer from being out of school.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/health/cdc-coronavirus-school-guidelines-new/index.html

    But you ALSO don't follow the SCIENCE if it disagrees with the agenda..

    Again, fine.. Your prerogative..

    But it DOES preclude you from saying you follow the science where ever it leads...

    Because it's clear that you don't follow the science if it conflicts with the Party..

    "The rights of the individuals shall protected so long as they don't conflict with the state."

    I remember the quote, but I'll be damned if I can remember what it's from...

  92. [92] 
    Michale wrote:

    TRUMP FAN SLAYED Black Trump supporter shot dead in broad daylight near his ‘Vote Trump’ banners as cops probe ‘political motive’

    Along with Bible verses, there were handmade signs on the building like "Vote Donald Trump 2020," and "Re-Elect Trump 2020," reported WISN's Dan O'Donnell.

    Sources said cops aren't sure of the motive at this time – but investigators are probing whether Tremmell was gunned down in the Wisconsin city over his GOP beliefs.

    Law enforcement said the suspect drove up in front of Expression Publications where Tremmell sat outside, shot him, and drove off yesterday.
    https://www.the-sun.com/news/1197163/black-trump-fan-shot-dead-milwaukee/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebarweb

    "The sport ends. The massacre begins."
    -Grand Primus T'Ceal, THE FINAL FRONTIER

    Add another body to the ever growing body count of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party... :^/

  93. [93] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Don [78],

    40% of citizens don't vote and many that do vote lesser of two evils out of fear of the other evil.
    That shtick hasn't worked on the 40% that don't vote other than convincing them to not vote

    There are significant hurdles to voting for many people. Making voting entirely too difficult or just not letting people vote is not convincing them to not vote. Your number is misleading and your assertion that everyone who doesn't vote doesn't vote because Big Money is absurd.

    BTW - CW is a Big Money Democratic blogger. I'm curious to know if there is a Big Money Republican blogger that you've badgered for years to give you free publicity. If not, why not?

  94. [94] 
    Michale wrote:

    If not, why not?

    Why don't you infest a GOP blog??

    Can't handle the heat??

  95. [95] 
    Michale wrote:

    Fleetwood Mac's Peter Green.. Dead at 73... :(

  96. [96] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Michale,

    Do you mean the real CDC guidelines or the Trump revised edition?

    Much like the suppressed CDC business re-opening guidelines I posted a while back, the science version is much better than the political version that replaced it...

    So, it's OK to cancel the GOP convention and Barron's school can stick with distance learning but the plebes should just accept their coronaviris fate?

    147,650 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

  97. [97] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    77

    fair enough. i DO NOT accept the CDC's "wisdom" on covid. period, full stop. their data i accept, but their opinions are currently compromised by political concerns.

    Correct. In May, the CDC had already issued their guidelines for reopening of schools which features a checklist broken into three sets of criteria, all of which the CDC recommended to be met before schools could consider reopening but which tracked closely with the CDC guidelines for reopening of states: "It is important to check with state and local health officials and other partners to determine the most appropriate actions while adjusting to meet the unique needs and circumstances of the local community," according to the CDC document, containing hyperlinks throughout with additional information:

    Should you consider opening?

    * Will reopening be
    consistent with applicable
    state and local orders?

    * Is the school ready to
    protect children and
    employees at higher risk
    for severe illness?

    * Are you able to screen
    students and employees
    upon arrival for symptoms
    and history of exposure?

    ANY NO
    DO NOT OPEN

    CDC Guidelines: Schools During the COVID-19 Pandemic

    [guidelines with hyperlinks at link above]

    *
    July 8: Donald Trump criticized the guidelines on Twitter:

    "I disagree with @ CDCgov on their very tough & expensive guidelines for opening schools. While they want them open, they are asking schools to do very impractical things. I will be meeting with them!!!"

    In addition to threatening to cut funding to schools who don't reopen, Trump stated, despite resurgence in multiple states that reopened at Trump's insistence and against CDC guidelines:

    We're very much going to put pressure on governors and everybody else to open the schools, to get them open.

    ~ Donald Trump, July 8

    *
    July 9: CDC says they will not rewrite guidelines for reopening despite the criticism from Trump.

    Fast forward to this week where the CDC has issued new guidelines that were edited and approved by the White House, but Friday, Robert Redfield, CDC director concedes that schools located in "hot spots" face a tougher call on whether or not to reopen.

    The leader of the nation’s premier public health agency Friday amplified President Trump’s call for schools to reopen, releasing new documents edited by the White House that gloss over risks and extol the benefits of in-person learning.

    Still, Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said there should be exceptions for “hot spots,” and he used a metric that would include parts of at least 33 states.
    ...
    On Friday, Redfield told reporters the new documents were cleared by the White House, and officials familiar with them, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said at least one was substantially edited by White House officials. The opening statement was written at the Department of Health and Human Services, Redfield said.
    ...
    On Thursday, Trump said schools may need to delay reopening in places that are “current hot spots,” and on Friday, Redfield echoed the thought. “In areas where there are hot spots, remote and distance learning may need to be adopted for some amount of time,” Redfield told reporters on a call to discuss the new guidelines.

    CDC director concedes schools in ‘hot spots’ face tougher call on reopening

    *
    Repeat: On Thursday, Donald Trump said schools may need to delay reopening in places that are "current hot spots." On Friday, yesterday, Redfield echoed the thought: "In areas where there are hot spots, remote and distance learning may need to be adopted for some amount of time." Redfield conceded this fact on a call to reporters to discuss the new guidelines.

    During the call, Redfield was asked to define "hot spots," and he said they included places where more than 5% of coronavirus tests come back positive, and by Redfield's definition that includes large sections of the country. Over the past week, data from Johns Hopkins University indicates that 33 states and Puerto Rico have "positivity rates" above 5% and 12 states have rates over 10%.

    In Florida, there are only two (2) counties at the current time where rates are below the CDC definition of "hot spot," and those are Alachua County and Bay County, which combine for about only 2% of the population of Florida.

    In Arizona, there is only one (1) county at the current time where rates are below the CDC definition of "hot spot," and that is Greenlee County with a population of less than 10,000.

    Florida and Arizona have overall positivity rates well above 10 percent, and the positivity rate of the United States is 10%, according to the CDC.

    So there you have it. Trump and the CDC have both conceded that parts of the United States that are hot spots may have to delay reopening.

    This ain't rocket science, but it is definitely science.

  98. [98] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Nypoet (83)-
    Oops.

    And here I was thinking it might get me a green card and not a card of a different color.

  99. [99] 
    Michale wrote:

    Do you mean the real CDC guidelines or the Trump revised edition?

    The real CDC guidelines as reported by CNN..

    147,650 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

    As JL has proven, only 6% of that number have actually died from covid..

    As usual, your 'facts' are nothing but bullshit...

  100. [100] 
    Michale wrote:

    As JL has proven, only 6% of that number have actually died from covid..

    As usual, your 'facts' are nothing but bullshit...

    Let your back-pedaling and equivocating begin..

    :D

  101. [101] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    JFC-
    Huh?

    What does significant hurdles to voting or not letting people vote have to do with the 40% of citizens that could vote not voting or those that vote lesser of two evils out of fear? Nothing.

    Typical argue against something I didn't say.

    I said SOME of those that don't vote and SOME lesser evil voters might be motivated- not all.

    While CW is a big money Deathocratic blogger, when I came here in 2015 he was talking about big money being a problem and supported trying new approaches.

    If there was a RepulbiCon blogger that had done that I might consider commenting there.

    There are less of those though than there are small donor only candidates.

    The Deathocratic blogger/journalists at least talk about having the same goal of getting big money out of politics.

    And CW has changed his tune before. He could do it again.

    Badger? It ain't no stinking badger.

    It is being persistent in demanding an answer.

    And the stick or the shtick is not going to get a better result than the carrot.

  102. [102] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua,

    your use of "fucking bitch" after repeated warnings about inappropriate use of colorful language is one thing. but cake? now that's going too far!!!

    Indeed!

  103. [103] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    the assertion that overall heat on the planet has not gone up significantly more since the advent of human industry is the giant con

    Ah, I can actually personally attest to that. Ahem. But, I love it, can't get enough of it!

    Because, you know, there's nothin' better for your soul
    Than lyin' in the sun and listenin' to rock 'n roll!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R33rJK5BNo

  104. [104] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    86

    yes, and it is also a FACT that the statement is his OPINION. his statement begins, "I'm of the point of view that..." it's hard to be any clearer that he is stating an opinion. sheesh!

    Exactly. Also, there was a discussion just yesterday between Redfield and reporters wherein he made the concessions regarding "hot spots." Trump also made those same concessions on Thursday, as CW rightly explained, Donald has been ordered to stay "on script" by his handlers, but who knows how long it will last?

    Season Two begins with masks now being "patriotic" versus "against our freedoms" as well as "things getting worse before they get better" and concessions regarding "hot spots" and the reopening of schools. How much longer can Trump stay on script?

    It's important to separate the political agenda of the White House from the CDC data. New York, the Northeast and North are looking well, having largely ignored the Trump agenda and having their statehouses stormed by armed protesters while following the guidelines of the CDC and ignoring the Trumpian BS. Meanwhile, in those states with governors who rushed to follow and ignored the CDC guidelines... well, I know I don't have to tell you "the proof is in the pudding."

    And now... pie! :)

  105. [105] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, actually, only 8,859 people have died from covid..

    Which is far less than the 12,569 people that died from Odumbo's pandemic...

  106. [106] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    The real CDC guidelines as reported by CNN..

    So, the revised political version...

    As JL has proven, only 6% of that number have actually died from covid..

    Only to those with reading impediments. He also posted:

    did you like only read the first half of the sentence? if not for covid, a majority of those people would still be alive.

    Personally, I don't see any back up of the 6% number and I think the juries still out on that. Cornoavirus is known to attack just about every organ in the body. You might have liver problems that would eventually kill you but COVID-19 made the problem worse and you die, is it the pre-existing liver problem, COVID-19 or both that caused it? Can counting systems account for more than one cause? There are some studies that point to the vast majority of deaths were from pneumonia, which is a symptom of COVID-19 and therefore directly attributed to Coronavirus.

    Let's see you back up the 6% with real science before calling it a "fact"...

    But in the end, whatever the real numbers, at this point most were preventable had we had real leadership as just about every other industrialized country has proven. The blood is on Trump's tiny hands at this point...

  107. [107] 
    Michale wrote:

    Let's see you back up the 6% with real science before calling it a "fact"...

    JL posted it.. It's confirmed..

    only about 6% of covid deaths are solely due to covid,

    So, only 8,859 Americans have actually died from Covid..

    As usual, you are wrong..

    But hay, if you want to call JL a liar, be my guest...

    Ass...

  108. [108] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    105

    So, actually, only 8,859 people have died from covid..

    So, you're lying. Nothing new.

    Which is far less than the 12,569 people that died from Odumbo's pandemic...

    So, you frequently resort to "what about Obama" in the act of your repetitive lying. Nothing new.

    However, your repetitive reliance on CNN reporting is definitely new and definitely doesn't meet your insistence on consistency for quite obvious reasons.

    Nice try, though.

  109. [109] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    huh? comorbidity doesn't mean that covid isn't the principal cause of death.

  110. [110] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    So, you're lying. Nothing new.

    that wasn't a lie, it was a failure to understand the complexities of cause and effect, and a subsequent comparison out of left field.

  111. [111] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    JL posted it.. It's confirmed..

    The first half is a fact. JL did post that text. The second half is false as the text did not have anything backing it up. Now if you would like to try to back it up...

    Otherwise, twisting others words is a crutch for the weak minded. I read JL's posts and understand what it said. You seem to be having problems on that front...

  112. [112] 
    Michale wrote:

    huh? comorbidity doesn't mean that covid isn't the principal cause of death.

    Now look who is back pedaling..

    only about 6% of covid deaths are solely due to covid,

    Your own words, JL...

  113. [113] 
    Michale wrote:

    The first half is a fact. JL did post that text. The second half is false as the text did not have anything backing it up. Now if you would like to try to back it up...

    Otherwise, twisting others words is a crutch for the weak minded. I read JL's posts and understand what it said. You seem to be having problems on that front...

    Backpedal all you want, Blathy..

    But facts are facts..

    Only 6% of the deaths are actually from covid..

    So when you claimed xxx,xxx died from covid, you are lying...

    8,859 died from covid. The rest from other causes...

    Facts are facts..

    And you have no facts..

  114. [114] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    let me give some context on what i mean by comorbidity and principal causes. if someone has a heart attack while driving and crashes his car, then dies of the injuries from the crash, does that mean the heart attack did not cause that death?

  115. [115] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    But facts are facts..

    Only 6% of the deaths are actually from covid..

    If facts are facts, and this is true, you should be easily able to back it up...

  116. [116] 
    Michale wrote:

    For the record, I have received permission from American Greatness web site to use anything posted on their site in my comments here in Weigantia..

  117. [117] 
    Michale wrote:

    If facts are facts, and this is true, you should be easily able to back it up...

    I already did, douche bag..

    only about 6% of covid deaths are solely due to covid,
    -JL

    I backed it up..

    Now, shut the fuck up dipshit..

  118. [118] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    even though the car accident is the immediate cause, no heart attack, no death, right?

    well, if our federal response to covid had been better, that's... what is it now... over 148,000 americans who would probably not be dead.

  119. [119] 
    Michale wrote:

    Washington Nationals, New York Yankees Kneel Prior to the National Anthem

    Prior to the start of the 2020 MLB season opener in Washington, DC, all members of both teams took a knee prior to the start of the national anthem. According to the Yankees, it was done “together in unity.”

    The park was particularly silent for the moment with no fans in the stands because of the risks and worries of COVID-19, a pre-recorded rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner was played and every player and coach “took a knee” on the grass, for about 20 seconds.

    The Daily Caller writes, “Every single player took a knee before the anthem, folks! The national anthem is back to being a major focal point in sports ever since the death of George Floyd.”

    “We’re weeks out from the NFL starting, and the MLB already has entire teams taking a knee. If you thought this was going away, I can promise you that it’s not.”
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/24/washington-nationals-new-york-yankees-kneel-prior-to-the-national-anthem/

    What a bunch of Trump/America hating scumbags..

    I mean, honestly.. What kind of moronic business pisses off the very people, the ONLY people who watch that shit???

  120. [120] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Awww...are those reading impediments still getting in the way?

    Hilarious.

  121. [121] 
    Michale wrote:

    well, if our federal response to covid had been better, that's... what is it now... over 148,000 americans who would probably not be dead.

    But only 8,859 have actually died from covid..

    So Blathy's claim is complete and utter bullshit..

    That's my point.. And it's a factually accurate point..

  122. [122] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    I mean, honestly.. What kind of moronic business pisses off the very people, the ONLY people who watch that shit???

    come on, man! they had to do SOMETHING to make baseball more entertaining!

  123. [123] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    That's my point.. And it's a factually accurate point..

    Only to those with a reading impediment...

  124. [124] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ya'all can equivocate and whine and mewl all ya'all want..

    But the SIMPLE FACT IS only about 6% of ya'all's number are actual covid deaths..

    Stamp yer feet and hold yer breath all you want..

    It STILL won't change the facts or the reality..

  125. [125] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    On the subject of bitches...

    Q: What is the difference between a slut and a bitch?

    A: A slut will sleep with anyone. A bitch will sleep with anyone but you.

  126. [126] 
    Michale wrote:

    come on, man! they had to do SOMETHING to make baseball more entertaining!

    Well, if you consider Trump/America hate "entertaining", more power to ya..

    But it simply insures that no sane patriotic American will watch baseball.. Or vote for the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    Which works fine for me.. :D

  127. [127] 
    Michale wrote:

    A&E lost over 60% of it's viewers when it cancelled LIVE PD...

    Businesses that follow the Trump/America hate path will fail...

  128. [128] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    But only 8,859 have actually died from only covid..

    excluding the only part is a lie of omission. you're taking a small technical point and turning it into a justification for the pretense that the impact of covid is smaller than it actually is.

  129. [129] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    just like former senator demint lied by omission when he quoted director redfield's opinion on school openings without the qualifying statement that preceded it.

  130. [130] 
    Michale wrote:

    excluding the only part is a lie of omission. you're taking a small technical point and turning it into a justification for the pretense that the impact of covid is smaller than it actually is.

    You can spin all you want, JL...

    But the facts are the facts.. Only 6% have died from actual covid...

    Blathy want's to know your source for that, by the bi.. He thinks you are lying...

    just like former senator demint lied by omission when he quoted director redfield's opinion on school openings without the qualifying statement that preceded it.

    ANd more spin.

    The quote was accurately relayed..

    As far as not stating the context?? Ya'all do that ***ALL THE TIME*** with President Trump...

  131. [131] 
    Michale wrote:

    As far as not stating the context?? Ya'all do that ***ALL THE TIME*** with President Trump...

    Every commentary and comments is FILLED with out of context quotes from President Trump..

    NOW it's a problem for you when it's something that supports something that is against yer agenda???

    Cry me a river...

  132. [132] 
    Michale wrote:

    Three men charged with federal gun crimes in Chicago after Trump sends hundreds of federal agents to the city

    Hundreds of federal officers have joined local law enforcement in Chicago under Trump's "Operation Legend."
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/three-men-charged-with-federal-gun-crimes-in-chicago-after-trump-sends-hundreds-of-federal-agents-to-the-city

    Bitch Chicago Mayor is being taken to school on REAL leadership.. :D

  133. [133] 
    Michale wrote:

    Prosecutors charged three men in Chicago with federal gun crimes Friday-- the first charges under the Justice Department's new crime initiative in the city.

    Hundreds of federal officials poured into Chicago in recent days as part of President Trump's "Operation Legend," aimed at tackling violent crime and gun offenses.

    MOST CHICAGO HOMICIDE VICTIMS OVER THE PAST DECADE ARE BLACK, POLICE DATA SHOW

    Romeo Holloway, 21, was arrested Tuesday night by federal and local law enforcement officers for illegally possessing a loaded handgun.

    Darryl Collins, 30, was arrested Wednesday afternoon by Chicago police for illegally possessing ammunition, which was in a loaded handgun, according to the criminal complaint.

    Both men had previously been convicted of felonies for unlawful possession of a firearm or ammunition

    Federal and local law enforcement officers also executed a search warrant at the home of Darryl Phillips, 22, of Chicago, early Wednesday morning. Officers discovered a semiautomatic handgun in a bedroom, the complaint said.

    A special agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), said the firearm was equipped with an auto-sear device, or “switch,” allowing the gun to fire more than one shot without manually reloading, the complaint states.

    I coulda swore that bitch Chicago mayor said that federal cops wouldn't operate in Chicago and that CPD would not work with federal cops..

    Apparently, she doesn't have ANY control over her city..

    President Trump OWNS Mayor Bimbo.. :D

  134. [134] 
    Michale wrote:

    Officers from the ATF, FBI, U.S. Marshals Service and Drug Enforcement Administration are working alongside local and state police as part of the Trump administration's plan, the Department of Justice said.

    Mayor Lori Lightfoot initially resisted the initiative, but later said Trump has her support, as her city struggles to tamp down gun violence.

    Chicago "Mayor" caves to President Trump.. :D

  135. [135] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    ANd more spin.

    The quote was accurately relayed..

    if you write, "don't ever try to eat from a trash can," i quote you as saying, "try to eat from a trash can," you are accurately relaying a part of what i wrote, but lying because you omitted a part that substantially changes the meaning of the statement. you've done that same thing twice here in the last fifteen minutes.

    JL

  136. [136] 
    Michale wrote:

    BBBBWWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    Louisville protests descend into chaos when armed protester accidentally shoots himself

    Multiple people were injured in Baxter Square Park, police said.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisville-protests-breonna-taylor-armed-protester-accidentally-shoots-himself

    The black militia Not Fucking Around Coalition had one of their own accidentally shot themselves and injuring others...

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Why is it that MORONS is synonymous with the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party???

    Jeezus, what complete and utter wastes of skin.. :D

  137. [137] 
    Michale wrote:

    if you write, "don't ever try to eat from a trash can," i quote you as saying, "try to eat from a trash can," you are accurately relaying a part of what i wrote, but lying because you omitted a part that substantially changes the meaning of the statement. you've done that same thing twice here in the last fifteen minutes.

    Your analogy is flawed..

    More accurately, there was no change in meaning from what DeMint said than what was actually said..

    BOTH contained the same meaning that keeping schools closed is bad for children..

    YOu just have to spin it because you are following an agenda and not the science..

  138. [138] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    okay michale, i'll stop trying to teach you to read. continue to be as illiterate as you like, just don't expect me to take your arguments seriously.

  139. [139] 
    Michale wrote:

    okay michale, i'll stop trying to teach you to read. continue to be as illiterate as you like, just don't expect me to take your arguments seriously.

    Of course not.. Facts and facts and you'll have none of that silliness around here, eh?? :D

    I get it.. The agenda is all important for ya'all..

    I understand..

    Let's compare notes on the evening of 3 Nov and see what was factually accurate about what, eh? :D

  140. [140] 
    Michale wrote:

    Explain it...

    How is what Demint quoted any different than what the actual CDC Director quoted..

    It's the SAME meaning.

    The CDC Director says that closing schools is worse for children than opening them..

    You are trying to obfuscate because Demint didn't word for word quote it..

    But the MEANING remains the same..

  141. [141] 
    Michale wrote:

    but lying because you omitted a part that substantially changes the meaning of the statement.

    Demint didn't change the meaning of the statement, substantially or otherwise..

    The DIRECTOR of the CDC said it..

    The meaning is the same..

    You just don't LIKE the meaning because it doesn't support your agenda..

    Just like you don't like the CDC Guidelines that push hard for school openings as reported by CNN so you ignore that...

    The CDC guidelines doesn't support the agenda, so they are ignored...

    It's YOU who is changing the meaning of everything to fit the agenda..

  142. [142] 
    Michale wrote:

    "probably, unfortunately, get worse before it gets better." This may be the first true thing he's ever said about the pandemic -- or the first true thing he's said in the past few months, at any rate.

    Since no context is provided, President Trump really didn't say that..

    Of course, being Trump, not everything he said was the truth: "Earlier this week, Trump boasted that his administration has met most governors' requests for supplies.

    No context whatsoever.. President Trump did not say that..

    You see how utterly ridiculous your position is??

    If context MUST be provided or the quote is not accurate, then ya'all spew a bunch of hate and BS about stuff that President Trump DID NOT SAY...

    Your position is completely and utterly untenable..

  143. [143] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    ah, the i'm rubber you're glue defense. redfield qualified his statement by saying,

    "I'm of the point of view as a public health leader in this nation, that having the schools actually closed is a greater public health threat to the children than having the schools reopen,"

    get it yet? that's his OPINION, and by claiming it as a point of view, he's acknowledging that it is not based on anything beyond his own professional judgment.

  144. [144] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    okay michale, i'll stop trying to teach you to read. continue to be as illiterate as you like, just don't expect me to take your arguments seriously.

    Well, amen to that.

    And, I mean that sincerely, I'm not trying to be facetious here.

  145. [145] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It must be raining in New York, or something??

  146. [146] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    in addition to acknowledging that it is merely one point of view, redfield also presented a dichotomy of extremes - as compared to school with coronavirus present, it's worse to have no school at all. if the only options were those two absolutes, i might go so far as to agree with him.

    further, he goes on to discuss how state and local governments should partner to reimagine schools in a way that keeps everyone safer. schools fully open to covid may be marginally better than no schooling at all, but most districts have better options available at their disposal than only those two extremes.

    JL

  147. [147] 
    Michale wrote:

    get it yet? that's his OPINION, and by claiming it as a point of view, he's acknowledging that it is not based on anything beyond his own professional judgment.

    It's the *HEAD OF THE CDC* opinion.

    Do you get that???

    Are you saying he's wrong??

    He has the data from his organization that, for once, is actually do what it was created to do.

    And YOU are saying he is wrong!??

    And he is wrong... *SOLELY* because his opinion conflicts with your agenda..

    And you STILL ignore the OFFICIAL GUIDELINES from the CDC that SUPPORTS the directors agenda..

    So, your claim that the director's opinion is WRONG is immediately suspect...

    Your problem is your agenda is supplanting the FACTS...

  148. [148] 
    Michale wrote:

    further, he goes on to discuss how state and local governments should partner to reimagine schools in a way that keeps everyone safer. schools fully open to covid may be marginally better than no schooling at all, but most districts have better options available at their disposal than only those two extremes.

    ANd of course, you agree with the director's opinion about THAT, right??

    You get it??

    You agree with the director's opinion when he says what you want to hear and you disagree with the director's opinion when he says something that goes against yer agenda..

    How is that consistent, let alone logical or rational??

  149. [149] 
    Michale wrote:

    but most districts have better options available at their disposal than only those two extremes.

    Yea?? Like what???

  150. [150] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    You agree with the director's opinion when he says what you want to hear and you disagree with the director's opinion when he says something that goes against yer agenda..

    re-read my previous post. i kind-of DO agree with his opinion, as he posed it. i just think it's disingenuous to presume that those are the only two options available.

  151. [151] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Yea?? Like what???

    well, if i were in charge i would group students into cohorts of 5-7 students, give each group a small amount of in-person instructional time every week, then supplement that time with on-line assignments and feedback.

  152. [152] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    "I'm of the point of view as a public health leader in this nation, that having the schools actually closed is a greater public health threat to the children than having the schools reopen,"

    The other point about this is we are talking about children as if they were in a bubble. In a pandemic, the needs of the rest of society might be more than than the needs of a smaller subset. The original CDC guidelines were more along these lines. Children are not immune to coronavirus. Quite the contrary, they are asymptomatic super spreaders. Especially the 10-19 age group.

  153. [153] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua,

    Have you heard about the 4 day/lockdown cycle where people go back to work and school for 4 days and then lockdown for 10 days and repeat.

    The idea is that if you get the virus it takes about 3 days to be infectious and by the fifth to tenth day when you are most infectious you'll be in isolation with the possibility of transmission being limited to household members where studies have shown the transmission to be relatively low.

    This is supposed to reduce the reproductive number to less than one so the virus is under control relatively quickly.

  154. [154] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, once a week is sufficient???

    If it were, then it would be that way ALL the time..

    You know as well as I do that NOTHING replaces in person learning from a teacher...

    Children are virtually immune to covid..

    The ONLY reason to keep schools closed is to keep their parents home from work to destroy the US Economy...

    Just like your once a week school plan would do...

  155. [155] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @liz,

    i've heard of it, but i don't like the length of the cycle. at least at the high school level, the result will be kids at home all week playing video games and not doing homework.

  156. [156] 
    Michale wrote:

    re-read my previous post. i kind-of DO agree with his opinion, as he posed it. i just think it's disingenuous to presume that those are the only two options available.

    SO, you agree with his opinion, but you STILL want to keep schools closed... Except for 1 day a week..

    Yer agenda is showing.. :D

  157. [157] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    So, once a week is sufficient???

    i don't recall saying how frequently each cohort would meet in my scenario. again, if i were doing the schedule, i'd try to fit in three times a week for 15 minutes per group.

  158. [158] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    SO, you agree with his opinion, but you STILL want to keep schools closed... Except for 1 day a week..

    you are talking in absolutes. i'm saying there is a universe of choices that keep people safer while giving kids enough face-time to keep their education on track.

  159. [159] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, Joshua, it's the only thing I've heard that makes sense and has a good chance of getting the virus under control and the number of active cases down so that reopening the economy and schools can occur safely and contact tracing has a chance to work.

  160. [160] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Of course, the people would have to buy into it and that is doubtful.

  161. [161] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I'd like to see it tried out in a place where the virus is extremely out of control as a kind of test case.

  162. [162] 
    Michale wrote:

    you are talking in absolutes. i'm saying there is a universe of choices that keep people safer while giving kids enough face-time to keep their education on track.

    And STILL destroy the US Economy...

    Isn't it telling that all of your ideas still accomplish the agenda?? :D

  163. [163] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    110

    that wasn't a lie, it was a failure to understand the complexities of cause and effect, and a subsequent comparison out of left field.

    So you don't think Mike actually knows that more than 8,859 have died from COVID-19? He wasn't questioning higher numbers than those when they were primarily coming from your home state and the Northeast region, but now you think he's just confused about it?

    What is that saying... "the lies we tell ourselves." Or perhaps you forgot: Of course he knows the numbers are far beyond the number he quoted.

    This ain't rocket science, but it is definitely science. :)

  164. [164] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Should Congress extend the $600 per week Unemployment Insurance bonus or not? A quote from The Atlantic.

    The bonus payment surely does create some disincentive for the jobless to look for work and take the first thing that comes along. But the main things preventing workers from getting a job right now are the raging pandemic, the massive recession, and the necessity for extended public-health shutdowns caused by the federal government’s incompetent response to the virus. Businesses are dying; jobless workers outnumber open positions by four to one; many open positions are too dangerous for workers who are elderly, have preexisting medical conditions, or live with someone with health problems; millions of workers do not have adequate child care, with schools and daycare centers still closed; and demand for goods and services is weak across the economy. These, not the bonus payments, are the real sticking points.

  165. [165] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    I laughed aloud, AOC played that with aplomb.

    Yoho was gelded because he's relic, pure and simple.

    Unmanned by his own petard...

    LL&P

  166. [166] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale,

    It was Odumbo who politicized the CDC by making it an entity to study and promote GUN CONTROL, which is far FAR outside their purview..

    Get your facts straight or hit the road...

    I love it when your dementia starts to show! The CDC cannot study GUN VIOLENCE as a threat to public health because the Dickey Act prevents it from doing so. We’ve argued about this in the past, and it’s amazing that you’ve gone from arguing that it is GOOD that they cannot study the effects of gun violence on public health to arguing that it is BAD that they are studying it...which, for the record, would be FAR inside their purview if they did!

    It’s telling that you think that if they did study the effects of gun violence on public health, their recommendation would include increased gun control restrictions. Yes, the answer is that obvious to even the dumbest and most uninformed citizens — as you have demonstrated.

    So I guess you’ll be hitting the road now... not wanting to be a hypocrite and all that stuff.

  167. [167] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    114

    let me give some context on what i mean by comorbidity and principal causes. if someone has a heart attack while driving and crashes his car, then dies of the injuries from the crash, does that mean the heart attack did not cause that death?

    He's not confused about the concept, JL. George Floyd was deprived of oxygen which two autopsies state was the primary cause of his death. Meanwhile, there are those like Mike who insist lack of oxygen had nothing to do with it.

    They are definitely undercounting the COVID deaths in the VA Hospitals as they've been ordered. Some veterans and their family members dying directly of COVID are being listed as pneumonia, heart disease, lung disease, etc., but COVID was the killer, and that's been going on since the first deaths in March.

  168. [168] 
    Michale wrote:

    L. George Floyd was deprived of oxygen which two autopsies state was the primary cause of his death.

    And that's a lie.. Only the autopsy paid for by the family says that..

    And that can be discarded..

  169. [169] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    116

    For the record, I have received permission from American Greatness web site to use anything posted on their site in my comments here in Weigantia..

    For the record, "American Greatness" is a right-wing conspiracy rag, and they're not the author of this blog.

  170. [170] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    117

    I already did, douche bag..

    Now, shut the fuck up dipshit..

    Oh, look: Mike apparently needs no help from anyone else in the name-calling department and has never needed.

    Who knew?

  171. [171] 
    Michale wrote:

    George Floyd died because he had a bad heart, was fat and had ingested meth and fentynal....

    This is fact...

  172. [172] 
    Michale wrote:

    For the record, "American Greatness" is a right-wing conspiracy rag, and they're not the author of this blog.

    CW's concern is that he be prosecuted for me posting other people's commentaries..

    I have secured permission from that web site to reprint their articles in full here..

    That addresses CW's concern..

    This is not your blog to police..

    So shut the fuck up, cunt...

  173. [173] 
    Kick wrote:

    Russ
    166

    Exactly this! Russ nailed it, of course.

    So I guess you’ll be hitting the road now... not wanting to be a hypocrite and all that stuff.

    Heh.

  174. [174] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    It's the *HEAD OF THE CDC* opinion.

    Do you get that???

    Are you saying he's wrong??

    It’s the political appointment that Trump put in charge of the CDC... which in the past was not a politicized position; but welcome to Trump’s dystopian administration!

    He has the data from his organization that, for once, is actually do what it was created to do.

    For ONCE? God, you are nothing but the personification of a Sean Hannity talking point! The CDC, prior to Trump, had been the premier source of scientific and medical research in the world. Their experts are some of the most respected people in their fields. Yet Trump, because he is such a narcissistic wussy who is intimidated by intelligent people, had to interfere with their operations because he couldn’t be bothered to pay attention to what they were trying to tell him during his morning briefings before he shared his opinion on the virus.

    Donald Trump has done just about everything imaginable in his quest to destroy this country... let’s just pray his own stupidity proves to be enough to keep him from succeeding!

  175. [175] 
    Michale wrote:

    This is not your blog to police..

    So shut the fuck up, cunt...

    I know, I know..

    A vile and disgusting name..

    To fit a vile and disgusting human being..

    ANYONE who supports Democrats and Black Lies Matter torturing toddlers is a vile and disgusting human being..

  176. [176] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    168

    L. George Floyd was deprived of oxygen which two autopsies state was the primary cause of his death.

    The L. is part of JL and not part of George Floyd's name. If you're going to quote somebody, the very least you could do is to quote them correctly.

    And that's a lie.. Only the autopsy paid for by the family says that..

    And that can be discarded..

    Incorrect. I blame your inability to read and comprehend the English language, but they both pretty much say the same thing just using different medical language that I certainly wouldn't expect you to understand.

    If you'd like to educate yourself, have at it (lots of hyperlinks with explanations):

    The Two Autopsies Of George Floyd Aren’t As Different As They Seem

    Or stay illiterate... as has already been suggested by multiple others many times.

  177. [177] 
    Michale wrote:

    It’s the political appointment that Trump put in charge of the CDC... which in the past was not a politicized position

    ANd yet, ya'all STILL quote the CDC when it suits yer Destroy America Agenda..

    And face the facts dood.. The CDC became politicized under Odumbo when he told them to investigate gun control..

    Dip shit..

  178. [178] 
    Michale wrote:

    If you'd like to educate yourself, have at it (lots of hyperlinks with explanations):

    BBBWWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

    538 is a Left Wing rag..

    They are as full of shit as you are, cunt..

    The OFFICIAL autopsy listed the cause of death of Floyd as due to his bad heart, his being fat and the fentynal and meth in his system..

    It was no big loss.. George Floyd was scum and his departure was a good thing for society..

    Of course, the racist that you are, you judge Floyd by the color of his skin...

    Douche bag...

  179. [179] 
    Michale wrote:

    Lawless Democrat-Run Cities Preview Joe Biden’s America

    “People will do what they do,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi shrugs.

    It’s not just tearing down statues of Columbus. Or of Washington, Lincoln, or Douglass.

    Mobs light churches on fire. They attack federal police officers with bricks, urine, feces, and pigs’ feet. They blind law enforcement officers with lasers. They burn down pawn shops with a man still inside, only discovered months after the news cameras left town. Yes, people – radical, America-hating domestic terrorists, to be precise – do evil things. When Democrats let them.

    This is what is happening in countless Democrat-controlled cities. In Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta, and New York crime is skyrocketing, police are defunded and ordered to disengage. Law-abiding citizens suffer, while Joe Biden and Democrats give cover to so-called “peaceful protesters” who are sharpening PVC pipes to use against cops protecting public property.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/07/25/lawless_democrat-run_cities_preview_joe_bidens_america_143802.html

    Once again, the ONLY thing ya'all have going for your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party are polls..

    EVERYTHING else is EVERYTHING that sane patriotic Americans despise..

    ANYONE who thinks that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party can win in 101 days is completely and utterly delusional...

  180. [180] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    The Troll police have been alerted.

    One of our trolls has gone berzerk...

    It uttered the 'C' word in congunction with the word 'fucking'...

    The creature will have to issue a half-hearted appology or suffer castration.

    LL&P

  181. [181] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ni ni all.. See ya in the morning.. :D

  182. [182] 
    Michale wrote:

    The creature will have to issue a half-hearted appology or suffer castration.

    You want to suck my what????

    Ass...

  183. [183] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    172

    CW's concern is that he be prosecuted for me posting other people's commentaries..

    Yes, I'm very well aware of that, and I believe everyone on the entire forum is informed likewise.

    I have secured permission from that web site to reprint their articles in full here..

    Oh, good for you, but as I was saying, that right-wing rag isn't the author of this blog. That propaganda forum can give permission 'til the cows come home to reprint their drivel in its entirety, but you'll still need the permission of the author of this blog in order to do it. If he gives you permission, we'll all have a great time reprinting articles in full here. It'll be awesome how overloaded the zone will become.

    That addresses CW's concern..

    Here, let me help you since you have such an awful time with understanding written English, and then there are your ever-present memory issues:

    [99] Chris Weigant wrote:

    Michale -

    Dude. Seriously. Just post a link, and maybe the key paragraph. You're risking my standing when it comes to "fair use" of articles. I'd hate to have to defend your comments posts in a court of law, in other words. Seriously, just post the "gotcha" paragraph and the link from now on... please....

    -CW

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/06/22/a-meta-column-on-pollwatching/#comment-162018

    *
    Seems pretty clear to me.

    This is not your blog to police..

    Neither is it yours, but your ever-present memory and illiteracy issues such as they are do definitely require reminders.

    So shut the fuck up, cunt...

    We can definitely discuss your wife and the family if you'd like. I believe Russ in particular would find your hypocrisy in that department quite hysterical. *laughs*

  184. [184] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Call to order...

    I object to the gratuitous use of the word 'cunt'.

    Not really.

    Carry on...

    LL&P

  185. [185] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    "I got call for Mike Hunt. Anybody seen Mike Hunt?"
    -Moe
    uncensored Simpsons episode

  186. [186] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    DEFUND THE BLOG POLICE! :D

  187. [187] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    "The creature will have to issue a half-hearted appology or suffer castration.

    You want to suck my what????

    Ass...

    Me: "Whatcha doing Michale? hmmm."

    Michale: "I'm hunting wabbits, he-he-haw"

    Me: "come with me. No no no, that's not a straight jacket, it's a left-handed girdle"

    LL&P

  188. [188] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    175

    This is not your blog to police..

    So shut the fuck up, cunt...

    ~ Michale

    *
    I know, I know..

    A vile and disgusting name..

    So "you know" but you chose to post that anyway; that definitely meets the definition of a troll. But as I said, we can certainly discuss your wife if that's your preference.

    To fit a vile and disgusting human being..

    Sounds to me like "ya'all" are "quite a pair" of them.

    ANYONE who supports Democrats and Black Lies Matter torturing toddlers is a vile and disgusting human being..

    ANYONE who keeps posting lies as some kind of justification to post things he knows are "vile and disgusting" is a troll needing attention, and I'm prepared to give you all the attention you desire, Mike Hunt. My I call you Mike Hunt? Not really a question, Mike Hunt, just letting you know I'll be henceforth giving you all the attention you seem desperate for.

  189. [189] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike Hunt

    Has left the forum.

  190. [190] 
    Kick wrote:

    Where's Mike?

    We’re going on a Mike hunt
    We’re gonna catch a big one
    But we’re not scared!
    Oh no, a large field of grass.
    We can’t go over it
    We can’t go under it
    We’ll have to go through it
    Swish swish swish

    We’re going on a Mike hunt
    We’re gonna catch a big one
    But we’re not scared!
    Oh no, a river.
    We can’t go under it
    We can’t go around it
    We’ll have to swim through it
    Swim swim swim

  191. [191] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike Hunt

    Where are you, Mike?

  192. [192] 
    Kick wrote:

    James T Canuck
    184

    Call to order...

    I object to the gratuitous use of the word 'cunt'.

    Not really.

    Carry on...

    Mike needs attention and wants desperately to talk about his family... the Mike Hunts.

  193. [193] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    185

    "I got call for Mike Hunt. Anybody seen Mike Hunt?"
    -Moe
    uncensored Simpsons episode

    Heh.

  194. [194] 
    Kick wrote:

    James T Canuck
    187

    You want to suck my what????

    Ass...

    Me: "Whatcha doing Michale? hmmm."

    Michale: "I'm hunting wabbits, he-he-haw"

    Me: "come with me. No no no, that's not a straight jacket, it's a left-handed girdle"

    Now, now... you mustn't encourage him; he'll lead you right down his alley and beg for more. Mike's a player. If you don't believe me, ask Bashi.

    When those threads have your full name, your wife's name, your daughter's name, your swinger past that you have admitted here as well as other interests you have mentioned, then yes my substantiation is USENET. Not to mention your comment style is unique. Anyone who has read a few posts of yours would know it's you even when in the paragraph form you are no longer able to handle.

    I ask again: shall I prove you are The Imbecile?

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/24/ftp571/#comment-158135

    *
    Oh, Bashi. :)

  195. [195] 
    Kick wrote:
  196. [196] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    You complained I was too much and announced you were leaving... So, you are a liar as well as a pussy and a bigot...

    The resident troll is an illiterate liar who is all about projection just like its imbecilic orange hero.

    Here's what it said just before running away for months right before the blue tsunami of 2018:

    [40] Michale wrote:

    I just wanted to post one last time and explain why I won't be coming back here..

    The affidavit laying out these allegations is so deeply flawed and so filled with gaps that it would be easy for any experienced cross-examiner to raise doubts about the credibility of the affiant. One critical question is why this young woman would repeatedly return to parties where she claims to have witnessed gang rapes of drugged women.

    I simply refuse to associate with people who accept that a college woman who attends high school gang rape parties on multiple occasions and who parties next to children being drugged and gang raped is credible..

    People who think that SUCH actions are irrelevant and that the ONLY part that is important is who this scumbag is accusing...

    In other words, people who support the drugging and gang rape of children in order to push a Party agenda...

    I simply will not associate with people like that...

    As an aside...

    LB, you are the **ONLY** one here who rightly called out the lack of credibility of this Sweathog person...

    I have found a blog where there are spirited discussions that I think you will like... I sure would like to continue our discussions there if you wish..

    You can email me at michale AT em ef see see ef el DOT us if you would like to continue RATIONAL discussions...

    As to the rest... With some of ya'all this degradation where drugging and child gang rape is acceptable?? It's about what I expected...

    To the very few rest of ya'all??

    It's extremely disappointing...
    [ Permalink ] [ Monday, October 1st, 2018 at 03:40 UTC ]

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/09/28/ftp502/#comments

  197. [197] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Don,

    The Deathocratic blogger/journalists at least talk about having the same goal of getting big money out of politics.

    Just FYI, I already knew that you didn't believe your own pox on both houses bullshit. You've chosen your lesser of two evils.

  198. [198] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    196

    Yes, good form, JFC. You have correctly identified that Mike is a troll with an exceedingly limited vocabulary and repetitive dearth of ideas.

    LB, you are the **ONLY** one here who rightly called out the lack of credibility of this Sweathog person...

    I have found a blog where there are spirited discussions that I think you will like... I sure would like to continue our discussions there if you wish..

    You can email me at michale AT em ef see see ef el DOT us if you would like to continue RATIONAL discussions...

    As to the rest... With some of ya'all this degradation where drugging and child gang rape is acceptable?? It's about what I expected...

    To the very few rest of ya'all??

    It's extremely disappointing...

    Oh, and look, JFC, he rudely tried to lure away a blog reader from Weigantia, and Mike just couldn't resist identifying himself further by posting his email again! He seems incapable of stopping himself; one could get the impression he's desperate for attention.

  199. [199] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    The misogynist insults are becoming as frequent as they are orange too.

  200. [200] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Kick,

    Oh, and look, JFC, he rudely tried to lure away a blog reader from Weigantia, and Mike just couldn't resist identifying himself further by posting his email again!

    That's a shame, but I didn't read that far. I wanted to keep my dinner down. I just read the part where it did what it accused me of.

  201. [201] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    199

    The misogynist insults are becoming as frequent as they are orange too.

    Now, now... you have no proof our Mike Hunt and President Grab Them By The P....rivates are misogynists... just years and years of quotes and a rudimentary understanding of English.

    Okay... fine. You win. :)

  202. [202] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    200

    That's a shame, but I didn't read that far. I wanted to keep my dinner down. I just read the part where it did what it accused me of.

    Ah, yes... its ever-present projection.

    Good form and quite right, JFC... you mustn't waste perfectly good pie.

  203. [203] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    The CW.com comments section tonight feels like a metaphor, of sorts, for America and the state of her union, 100 days out from a presidential election.

    I just read a powerful piece - a heartfelt comment, actually - at my other favourite blog that eloquently summed up the situation and was a veritable cry for help to save the union and to begin to heal the soul of the nation.

    And, then, I come here.

    :-(

  204. [204] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @liz,

    yeah, it can get a little sad. i still love CW's commentaries though. i hope his car stops acting up so he can stop by and visit the comments section with a bit more frequency. a reality check from the reality-based blogger, if you will, to redirect us out of this "alternate reality."

    hey, do we all have beards or what?

    JL

  205. [205] 
    nypoet22 wrote:
  206. [206] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Heh. You can always put a big ole smile on my face, Joshua.

    And, no, we most certainly do not all have beards! :)

    I will always keep coming here for the excellent headlining pieces and the less than frequent but nevertheless comforting conversation. No matter what.

  207. [207] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Do you know what my other favourite blog is? I don't want to make a habit of naming it here but, I think you would like it.

  208. [208] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:
  209. [209] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [11]

    I second that "Heh."

  210. [210] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [15]

    Thank you very much -- I'll be here all week, Ladies and Gentlemen. Don't forget your waitresses and bartenders!

  211. [211] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [32]

    nypoet22 wrote:


    @jfc,

    "big money" joe? really??? are you channeling don harris or what?

    We must pray for our Sister Elizabeth. One Don Harris is quite sufficient, thank you.

  212. [212] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    ain't that the truth... I love ya, don ...see ya tonight ...

  213. [213] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [72]

    Don Harris wrote:

    "We tripped the light fandango
    turned cartwheels cross the floor
    bought into the deception
    that has let us down before

    Life kept getting harder
    as our country flew away
    When we called out for another choice
    we're told some other day

    And so it was la-a-a-a-ter
    With democracy for sale
    That our hope at first just ghostly
    turned a whiter shade of pale."
    -Whiter Shade of Pale parody

    Now this is some good stuff Brother Don! It brings to mind your comedic contributions as well. They're positive additions to these pages.

    I sure wish that you'd finally realize that "Get real" hasn't done squat for you (for years now?) Then you could do something and be someone other than just being largely scrolled through and ignored.

    I'm not asking you to give up on OD, no no no!!! In fact, I'm interested in further discussion. C'mon Dawg, you KNOW I effing 1000% agree that both parties are owned by Big Money -- they let us plebes argue over the social issues while they make off like bandits.

    "Ya'll can boss the n*ggers
    And we'll boss the money"

    Give this some thought... Weigantia needs more out of Don Harris than ineffectual scolding.

  214. [214] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [77]

    I DO NOT accept the CDC's "wisdom" on covid. period, full stop. their data i accept, but their opinions are currently compromised by political concerns.

    JL

    Spot on! It reminds me of the NOAA Director being forced to include Alabama to cover Cheetogod's butt during Sharpie-gate.

  215. [215] 
    Michale wrote:

    Fires, vandalism, fatal shooting as riots break out – yet again – in cities across US

    American mayhem: More rioting and lawlessness in cities across US

    Saturday’s unrest included damage to federal buildings and local police precincts -- and even a fatal shooting
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/american-mayhem-more-rioting-and-lawlessness-in-cities-across-us

    And once again, the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party shows all of America what a Joe Biden Presidency will mean..

    Which is exactly why no sane patriotic American will vote for Democrat in 100 days..

    I always like to make this point because it's 1000% factual and no one here can even touch it..

    Silence = Assent

  216. [216] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    The CW.com comments section tonight feels like a metaphor, of sorts, for America and the state of her union, 100 days out from a presidential election.

    I just read a powerful piece - a heartfelt comment, actually - at my other favourite blog that eloquently summed up the situation and was a veritable cry for help to save the union and to begin to heal the soul of the nation.

    And, then, I come here.

    Excellent observation.. I remember how things were before the likes of MC, 'Nuck, Vick, Russ et al showed up..

    Weigantia was a fun place to be..

    Now, it's nothing but a cesspool of name-calling and personal attacks and oppo research and dox-ing...

    It is my fervent hope that once President Trump is re-elected and everyone here realizes that they will never remove him from office, nor me from Weigantia, they will just give up and leave...

    Hope springs eternal...

  217. [217] 
    Michale wrote:

    yeah, it can get a little sad. i still love CW's commentaries though. i hope his car stops acting up so he can stop by and visit the comments section with a bit more frequency. a reality check from the reality-based blogger, if you will, to redirect us out of this "alternate reality."

    Com'on, JL.. There hasn't been any "reality" here since Jun of 2015..

    But, as I told Liz, once President Trump is re-elected and the people that caused all this mayhem leave, things will get back to like it was...

    Fingers crossed...

  218. [218] 
    Michale wrote:

    Anyone ever notice that Vick always leaves the forum after I sign off for the night??

    Why, it's almost as if she is ONLY here to troll and push buttons..

    Uncanny...

  219. [219] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, in a show of utter contemptibility of Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party so-called "leadership"...

    Portland Tells Feds To Take Down Fence Protecting Courthouse Or They’ll Sue

    Portland, OR – The City of Portland has threatened to slap the federal government with “fines and potential legal action” if they refuse to remove the protective fencing surrounding a downtown federal courthouse.

    The Mark O. Hatfield Federal Courthouse has come under attack on a nightly basis over the course of the past two months.

    Rioters have repeatedly fired mortars and other projectiles at federal officers, sprayed the building with graffiti, broken windows, attempted to barricade exits, and ignited fires inside and outside of the building during overnight attacks.

    Portland business owners have further reported a staggering $23 million in losses due to rioting and looting in the downtown area, FOX News reported.

    Although the fence has provided federal officers with some level of protection, rioters have incessantly attempted to tear it down.
    https://bluelivesmatter.blue/portland-tells-feds-to-take-down-fence-protecting-courthouse-or-theyll-sue/

    Get that?? The scumbag toddler torturing Democrats want to utterly destroy the Federal Courthouse in Portland..

    And Democrat city officials in Portland are working with the scumbag toddler torturing Democrats to make such destruction possible..

    Again, the question MUST be asked..

    How delusional do ya'all have to be to think that sane patriotic Americans are going to vote for this kind of bullshit???

    You people are obviously totally oblivious to what happened in 1968 when the Democrat Party went totally wonko like this..

  220. [220] 
    Kick wrote:

    I'm never leaving. I hope no one else does either. :)

  221. [221] 
    Michale wrote:

    Reprinted with permission..

    It Doesn’t End Well

    The hooligans smashing up courthouses and police stations as they pursue indiscriminate carnage are fired by the same unholy “train of disorderly appetites” that Edmund Burke anatomized 230 years ago.

    Denis Diderot, model of the French Enlightenment that he was, gave memorable expression to that movement’s inveterate anti-clericalism. “Man will never be free,” said the energetic Encyclopédiste, “until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.”

    They don’t talk much about kings and priests, but the civilization-hating anarchists of the Black Lives Matter movement would applaud Diderot’s sentiments. Although they sometimes wrap their destructive actions in fine-sounding rhetoric about justice and anti-racism, what they are really about is hate.

    Recapping Thursday’s madness, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany noted that “A federal agent’s hand was impaled by planted nails, another federal agent was shot with a pellet gun, leaving a wound deep to the bone, and tragically, three federal officers were likely left permanently blinded by the rioters using lasers pointed directly into their eyes.”
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/25/it-doesnt-end-well/

    THIS is ya'all's Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter party, people...

    THIS is what ya'all think sane patriotic Americans will vote for in Nov...

    There are 3 sane people in Weigantia who know that Americans will NEVER vote for this...

    The rest of ya'all are simply completely and utterly delusional...

    The facts lead to no other possible conclusion..

  222. [222] 
    Michale wrote:

    No wonder Brooks Brothers, Nike, Uber, and practically every other wretched business you have ever dealt with are falling all over themselves to proclaim their solidarity with Black Lives Matter and committing to end “systemic racism” in the United States.

    How to explain the mind-boggling disjunction between the violent savagery of the BLM crusaders, on the one hand, and the nauseating spectacles of frightened though congratulatory self-abasement by the white elite, on the other? Are the latter pleased by the news emanating from Portland and similar enclaves of vicious woke sentimentality?

    Please don’t talk to me about the violent career criminal George Floyd. As I have noted repeatedly, the violence engulfing various Democratic-controlled cities has nothing to do with Floyd’s demise. “The death of George Floyd in Minneapolis on May 25,” I wrote in early June “is merely the pretext for the violence. The cause is hatred.”

    Yep, exactly. This is nothing but pure unadulterated America hate shining thru...

    And to those who think that Americans will actually VOTE for this???

    Guess what?? AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN...

  223. [223] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now, THIS is interesting..

    History, Burke writes mid-way through Reflections on the Revolution in France, consists largely of “miseries brought upon the world by pride, ambition, avarice, revenge, lust, sedition, hypocrisy, ungoverned zeal, and all the train of disorderly appetites.” It is this unappeasable fountain of human nature that disrupts our social life with (here Burke quotes Spenser) “troublous storms that toss / The private state, and render life unsweet.”

    hmmmm

    Interesting how much Burke wrote about the French Revolution is taking place today..

    “miseries brought upon the world by pride, ambition, avarice, revenge, lust, sedition, hypocrisy, ungoverned zeal, and all the train of disorderly appetites.”

    That certainly fits the description of today's Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party, doesn't it...

    And the depths of delusion ya'all (NEN) must plumb to convince yerselves that sane patriotic Americans will actually VOTE for that???

    Well, that's simply a tribute to ya'all's (NEN) hatred and bigotry...

  224. [224] 
    Michale wrote:

    Burke’s point is that “Wise men will apply their remedies to vices, not to names; to the causes of evil which are permanent, not to the occasional organs by which they act, and the transitory modes in which they appear.”

    We look at the streets of Portland and other cities, we listen to the Marxist rhetoric strained through the filter of racial redress, and we—some of us—feel that some great wrong is being expiated. In reality, the old wrong of that Hobbesian “perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death” is making its way in the world in a new disguise. But the fact of the disguise is hardly surprising. “Seldom,” Burke writes, “have two ages the same fashion in their pretexts and the same modes of mischief.”

    Wickedness is a little more inventive. Whilst you are discussing fashion, the fashion is gone by. The very same vice assumes a new body. The spirit transmigrates; and, far from losing its principle of life by the change of its appearance, it is renovated in its new organs with the fresh vigour of a juvenile activity. It walks abroad; it continues its ravages, whilst you are gibbeting the carcass, or demolishing the tomb. You are terrifying yourself with ghosts and apparitions, whilst your house is the haunt of robbers. It is thus with all those, who, attending only to the shell and husk of history, think they are waging war with intolerance, pride, and cruelty, whilst, under colour of abhorring the ill principles of antiquated parties, they are authorizing and feeding the same odious vices in different factions, and perhaps in worse.

    It's almost as if Burke wrote about what is occurring in the here and now..

    What's occurring in Portland and Seattle and all over the country (Democrat cities only.. Funny that, eh?) is simply history re-repeating itself...

    And you people HONESTLY think that sane patriotic Americans are going to VOTE for this??

    Seriously, people.. Put down the crack pipes.. Yer rotting yer brains...

  225. [225] 
    Michale wrote:

    History to the revolutionary spirit is but a gigantic warehouse of resentment and a toolbox of repudiation. Who is pure enough to survive such scrutiny? “It is not very just,” Burke writes, “to chastise men for the offences of their natural ancestors; but to take the fiction of ancestry in a corporate succession, as a ground for punishing men who have no relation to guilty acts, except in names and general descriptions, is a sort of refinement in injustice belonging to the philosophy of this enlightened age.”

    You might think that thugs rampaging through the streets of our cities are imperfect representatives of any “enlightened age.” In fact, ignorant though they are, they are proud and legitimate progeny of that echt Enlightenment figure Karl Marx, whose abiding passion was hatred of the civilization that created him and whose legacy was tyranny, immiseration, and death—wrapped up, naturally, in sweet-sound bulletins about the brotherhood of man and the ultimate emancipation of human aspiration.

    The messengers have changed their garb, but the hooligans smashing up courthouses and police stations as they pursue a course of indiscriminate carnage are fired by that same unholy “train of disorderly appetites” that Burke anatomized. We’ve been here, done that, and believe me, it does not end well.

    That's exactly right.. It does not end well for those who would destroy American culture and kill cops and torture toddlers and spew gross and perverse sexist comments...

    Ya'all's time is coming to an end.. Sane patriotic Americans are going to get so fed up with the bullshit coming from the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party that they are going to take to the streets and deal with those scumbags themselves..

    And those sane patriotic Americans??

    We're better armed and better trained than the scumbags of the Democrat Party.. And, unlike the toddlers ya'all's Democrats like to torture??

    We'll fight back...

  226. [226] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    218

    Anyone ever notice that Vick always leaves the forum after I sign off for the night??

    Anyone ever notice that Mike is always inventing lies and needs desperately for the conversation to be personal and centered on himself?

    Why, it's almost as if she is ONLY here to troll and push buttons..

    Why, it's almost as if he is self-centered and can't tell time. Anybody ever notice how Mike has been gone for months and months at a time and Kick was still here commenting? Of course, a whole lot more political issues and history was get discussed without the group trolling and incessant repetitive troll mewling and whimpering desperately for attention.

    Uncanny...

    Canned ham.

    Would you like some cheese to go with your permanent victimhood? If you're going to dish it out on this forum like you've always done long before those you keep whining about showed up, then we're going to teach you what it's like to get it right back at you.

    Don't like it? Then you are free to make up some stupid shit about everybody here via your oft repeated standard operational "silence give assent" bullshit and run away like you do a lot. I'll still be here, but I'll be discussing a whole lot more political issues because you won't be here doing your standard repetitive routines wherein you repeat your little repertoire of "derp derp" drivels and spews if anyone tries to discuss certain political issues.

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/09/28/ftp502/#comment-128927

    So to recap: Some of us on this blog see patterns in things and have an excellent recall in memory. You are a creature of habit whose shit rarely varies and is repeated on cue ad nauseam like a Pavlovian dog. It is getting awfully close to the time where you invent a whole lot of "silence gives assent" bullshit and then leave the forum because November.

    Win or lose the election, it's on to the next one.

  227. [227] 
    Michale wrote:

    Reprinted With Permission..

    The Democrats’ Cargo Cult

    Once ensconced, the Democrats, really the Marxian vanguard of the proletariat, will never leave office or relinquish power—ever again.

    Cargo ritual, or cargo cult, is a religious practice whereby relatively primitive societies attempt to conjure up modern technology or lifestyle advancements through ritualistic behavior. Classic examples include the building of an airplane runway in the hopes of materializing the kind of cargo that airplanes bring, or building radios out of coconuts and straw.

    The Democratic Party has been running a cargo cult for some decades. It is placing a bet that its latest savior figure, Sleepy Joe Biden, albeit an empty senile shell of a cult leader, can do it again and fool the people—one more time. As Biden is wont to say, “C’mon man.”

    During World War II, Americans landed their huge aircraft, big bombers and fighters, all over the Pacific islands of Melanesia. The local natives came to love “Joe From,” (a.k.a. G. I. Joe from somewhere stateside). The planes would drop their goods, i.e., cargo, and the people got stuff like free soft drinks, canned Spam, chewing gum, and candy bars. They became totally addicted to it.

    But then the war ended, and the planes stopped arriving.

    Ignorant as to why, the islanders built their own bamboo and wooden planes, many life-sized, beckoning the return of yet more cargo. It didn’t cause them to come.

    Such cargo cults are a phenomenon around the world, from Papua New Guinea to Guinea, and from Guinea-Bissau to British Guinea—continents apart. All are premised on more or less the same design.

    This is very interesting.. I never knew about this Cargo Cult concept...

    I surely fits the concept that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is neck deep in right now..

  228. [228] 
    Michale wrote:

    And I show up and Vick is right here after me..

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I have my own private stalker..

    Well, we all already knew that when she threatened to dox me if I didn't stop posting..

    As usual, the cunt was just blowing hot air because I am still posting as I please and she can't do SHIT about it.. :D

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  229. [229] 
    Michale wrote:

    But, back to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party's Cargo Cult...

    Radically new-age, millenarian false religions, “cargo cults,” were all inaugurated by cataclysmic events that destroyed the old order and brought paradisal plenty, together with freedom and justice that involved the reversal of the positions of white foreigners and indigenous peoples.

    Joe from Delaware (or is it Scranton?) and his pseudo-religious—well, actually, now more a secular Marxist—party is promising the return of cargo to those who just believe in him or a slim chimera of him. And the inner-cities, blue state kleptocracies and emerging autonomous (anarchic) zones, as well as the Democratic-controlled “shithole” wards—from West Baltimore to the Bronx and from Compton to Metcalfe Park, all fall in line. They believe.

    The handouts and promises are just too good to pass up. More, please. More!

    Like the related 1960s cartoon, “Clutch Cargo,” Clutch Biden is out to save the oppressed and downtrodden. That animated television series centered on dangerous adventures and missions to save the world. It was later voted the seventh-worst television production in history but in its day, it had plenty of followers and a cool bongo lead in.

    Play those bongos again brothers and sisters, Clutch Biden will deliver. It may take help this time from the AOC crowd or “the (Firing) Squad,” as it is commonly known, as well as threats from Antifa and the bigoted rioters, but Joe and his soon-to-be-released, female action-figure, vice president of color, premised on Shuri in the fictional kingdom of Wakanda, will Remake America.

    This time the cargo cult will be bigger and better than ever. It has to be.

    WOW.. This guy has Biden's and the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party's number down pat!! :D

    It's hilarious how those guys over at American Greatness nails the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party perfectly... :D

  230. [230] 
    Michale wrote:

    To hell with the U.S. Constitution, the nuclear and extended family, marriage, parenting, the rule of law, private property, any notion of religious freedom (let alone the practice of it), the Second Amendment, customs, manners, and civilization as we know it.

    It is time for revolution. Off with their heads is the slogan du jour.

    Like Robespierre, the first act is to guillotine the vestiges of the past and all its conservative and reactionary stalwarts. Gone.

    The second act is to take control of the commanding heights. The media is already on board, so the rest will follow like lemmings. Done.

    And, the final stage is socialism in every aspect. Equality of outcomes is the euphemism, but it is in effect the total destruction of present society and the remaking of America. The new red hats will not be premised on the founding principles, life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness, let alone any meritocracy of the past, or our individual and collective achievements.

    The new order will read right out of the Communist Manifesto: “[W]hen the class struggle nears the decisive hour . . . a small section of the ruling class cuts itself adrift, and joins the revolutionary class, the class that holds the future in its hands.”

    Yep.. Yep.. And.. Yep... Exactly this...

    But the GOOD news is, it's all going to be nipped in the bud when President Trump wins re-election by a massive landslide that's going to rival, if not surpass Ronald Reagan's 1984 landslide victory over the puny and disgusting Democrats.. :D

  231. [231] 
    Michale wrote:

    From his cultic basement bunker, today’s cargo cult Democrat shadow man deity has offered up far greater goodies for the masses. They include: free college education for all, no taxes whatsoever for anyone of moderate means, free universal health insurance for any and every body (noncitizens included), free child care, abortion even after birth, more food stamps, get out of jail free cards, a Green New Deal, affirmative action to ensure reversals of the past, removal of all statues that have anything to do with America’s former history, unlimited immigration and completely open borders, defunding of the police, confiscation of all guns, and trillions of dollars in giveaways and boondoggles for Democratic-controlled states and cities.

    Come and lap it up, there is something for everybody—everybody on the Left, that is.

    It's a testament to ya'all's (NEN) stoopidity and delusional psyche that ya'all actually BELIEVE that Basement Biden can actually prevail in 100 days...

    It's gonna be a LOT of fun for me, pounding ya'all's (NEN) asses in the ground for yer delusions.. :D

  232. [232] 
    Michale wrote:

    Reprinted with permission..

    Joe the Imposter

    Take a hard look at Biden.

    By Angela Kelley •

    We say it every election year: It’s more important than ever to vote this November! This year it truly means the life or death of American freedom.

    It might sound melodramatic, but I believe we only have a little over three months to save our Republic from the Marxist Left that wants to destroy it. It’s live-free-or-die time, folks. If Joe Biden and his shadow people win the election in November, we will never again see the greatness of the United States of America in our lifetime.

    Take a hard look at Joe.

    Oh boy.. THIS is going to be fun.. :D A hoot..

    "You know what?? It IS funny. It's a hoot that you don't get this.."
    -Tony Stark, AVENGERS AGE OF ULTRON

  233. [233] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden first won his Senate seat in 1972, a whopping 48 years ago. This 77-year-old man is hardly one of the “new voices” that Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is calling for on her Twitter videos. Biden was good friends with Senator Robert Byrd (D-W.V.), a former KKK Exalted Cyclops. Biden once opposed busing and embraced segregation. His campaign got lots of money from the banking industry lobby, and interestingly, he made it harder for people to file bankruptcy, while making sure student debt couldn’t be part of bankruptcy protections.

    Joe sponsored the 1994 crime bill that so many blame for putting vast numbers of minorities behind bars for relatively minor crimes. He backed the Iraq war. He calls himself “Middle-Class Joe,” but he has “taken in more than $15 million since leaving the Obama White House.” He may deny the credible sexual assault allegations of his former staffer, Tara Reade, but we’ve all seen the dozens of creepy videos of Joe touching women and children inappropriately, and his weird comments about kids rubbing his legs at the pool.

    Biden was accused of plagiarism, which led him to drop out of the 1988 presidential race. He lied to voters about his education. He calls would-be supported lying dog-faced pony soldiers, tells them that “you ain’t black” if African Americans don’t vote for him, and frequently tells people not to vote for him.

    Once again, the question must be asked..

    What sane patriotic American is going to vote for THAT^^^

  234. [234] 
    Michale wrote:

    Joe’s scandal-ridden son, Hunter, and his dealings with Burisma, the Ukraine, and China, should be the subject of a giant investigation, but we instead spent that money on the discredited Trump-Russia hoax.

    But Joe doesn’t even really matter.

    Can we all just agree that Joe has some significant memory loss and shows signs that he is probably experiencing dementia? He knows it. His wife knows it. His staff know it. He’s running to be a one-term president. Everyone understands he won’t really be in charge. Shouldn’t we demand to be able to vote for an actual candidate rather than an imposter with shadow people running the game?

    Who will people really be voting for when they pull the lever for Joe Biden? The vice president will be the actual person in charge, as well as Bernie Sanders, that great thinker Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and her “squad.” Be prepared for the Green New Deal, higher taxes followed by higher unemployment, higher fuel costs, continued dependence on China for food and medicine, strict gun control measures, increased regulation, poor people getting poorer, a shrinking middle class, and cancel culture on steroids.

    Very good point..

    Although I am not worried about it in the least...

    I know that sane patriotic Americans simply will not vote for what Basement Joe and the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter party is selling..

    It simply cannot happen..

    Face reality people.. Without yer polls to cling to, there is simply NOTHING that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter party has that every day Americans want..

    I mean, Democrats are great for torturing toddlers and spewing gross and perverse sexist comments..

    But there is simply NOTHING that the Left is pushing that appeals to Americans..

    So, by all means, cling to your polls...

    And thank God I'm only watching the game
    Controlling it
    I don't see you guys rating the kind of mate
    I'm contemplating
    I'd let you watch I would invite you
    But the queens we use would not excite you
    So you'd better go back to your bars
    Your temples, your massage parlors

    -One Night In Bangkok

    Ya'all are going to be like the coyote in the Road Runner cartoons.. Forced off a cliff and clinging to polls like so much air ya'all are trying to grasp..

    And the end result will be the same..

    A long fall with a muffled POOF cloud when ya'all hit the ground.. :D

    I'll be here to laugh and laugh at ya'all firmly planted in the ground from your great fall.. :D

    Don't worry, JL and Liz... Ya'all have conceded the facts and reality of a President Trump win.. Ya'all are completely safe from my gloating.. :D

  235. [235] 
    Michale wrote:

    Looks like the cunt saw that no one was around to back her up so she left..

    BBBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    She's such a lame bully... Only "brave" when she has her thugs backing her up..

  236. [236] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    208

    Nice piece by Gary Hart, EM.

    "I have the right to do a lot of things that people don't even know about." This, of course, calls to mind Trump's "Article II" fairly regular insistence. So as Trump has asserted multiple times, he believes Article II -- of the United States Constitution -- allows the president to do whatever he wants.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_gO3uOds8

    For as much as the GOP and their minions and useful idiots whined incessantly about their claim that Obama believed he was a "king," you don't hear much out of them about Trump's regular insistence that he has "the right to do whatever I want as president, but I don't even talk about that."

    "We don't even talk about Article II." ~ Donald Trump

  237. [237] 
    Michale wrote:

    Sharia will be the law in many inner cities, and Antifa and Black Lives Matter will be the enforcers in others. The world will once again see us as weak, as Biden bows lower than Obama to the heads of state in other countries.

    “The Star-Spangled Banner” will be replaced with the most woke song of the day. We’ll collectively pay reparations to people who were never slaves from people who didn’t benefit from slavery. We’ll usher in single-payer government insurance, universal basic income, a $20 minimum wage, and $50 hamburgers.

    As in the Carter Administration in the 1970s, we will see north of 12 percent mortgage interest rates for only the best borrowers and gasoline lines wrapping around city blocks. Our rich and colorful history will be replaced by a 1619 rewrite, and the Washington Monument will be deconstructed.

    One can only imagine the horrendous toll on liberty four years of Biden will give us, and the shadow presidency will do their best to make sure freedom-loving administrations never again break past the two-party swampy system to hold power.

    We are in trouble, guys. Real trouble. This is the most important election since Abraham Lincoln was elected. No more sitting on the couch being shocked at what is happening to our country. Get up and speak to your family and friends, and please vote, or your silence will be the country’s ruin.

    This is the reality of a Basement Biden/Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party America...

    It will NOT be allowed to happen..

    It's really THAT simple....

    Anyone who thinks other wise is simply moronic and delusional...

  238. [238] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the cunt sees my post and is forced back into Weigantia..

    JUST as I wanted her to do!!!

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    She's my little puppet...

    PWNED!!!

  239. [239] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    210

    Thank you very much -- I'll be here all week, Ladies and Gentlemen.

    Oh, I quite agree too, but rather than a week, stay forever.

  240. [240] 
    Michale wrote:

    Reprinted With Permission

    Defund the Word Police!

    California dailies make the word “looting” disappear.

    By Lloyd Billingsley • July 25, 2020

    In the Los Angeles riots of 1992, Americans may recall, looters had a field day. In 2020, with anarchy and arson on the march, the Los Angeles Times has banned the term looting.

    “Looting is a crime that occurs only during a state of emergency,” the paper’s style guide explains. “Do not use it as a broad label or term for protest, burglary, theft or chaos. Because of the racial connotation and history of the word, use terms like ‘looting’ or ‘looters’ only in the context of criminal proceedings. Unless a story is specifically about looting or those charged with the crime, ‘looting’ or its derivations (‘looted,’ ‘looters’) should not be used in the story.”

    Up in the state capital of Sacramento, notes California Globe editor Katy Grimes, “Following violence, anarchy, mass property damage, theft, robbery and vandalism during the ongoing Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots, many Sacramento businesses were destroyed. Owners boarded up windows following the rampage.” With downtown businesses still under wraps, Sacramento Bee editor Lauren Gustus announced a daring change.

    “The Bee has taken several recent steps to work against long-standing stereotypes,” Gustus explained. “We have largely banned the use of the word ‘looting’—a term rooted in racism—and have sought to elevate the voices of emerging writers from communities we have long underserved.”
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/25/defund-the-word-police/

    This is the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party MO...

    Shades of 1984... Who here is surprised that it would be the Democrats who made 1984 a reality??

    Not I...

  241. [241] 
    Michale wrote:

    As the July 9 story by Ryan Lillis notes, the Bee “will limit the publication of police booking photos, surveillance photos and videos of alleged crimes, and composite sketches of suspects provided by law enforcement agencies. Publishing these photographs and videos disproportionately harms people of color and those with mental illness, while also perpetuating stereotypes about who commits crime in our community.”

    Exceptions include, “booking photos of public figures; photos of suspected serial killers; cases in which there is an immediate and widespread threat to public safety; and those suspected of hate crimes.” The Bee will continue to publish footage of police officer use of force as “one way to hold those in positions of power accountable.”

    According to Lillis, the changes flow from a July 3 story that “included surveillance photographs of people suspected of vandalizing stores in downtown Sacramento following a night of protests against police brutality. Members of the community asked that the story—and the photographs—be removed from our website the next day and we did so. We apologize for the harm that publishing those photos may have caused.”

    The Sacramento Bee is the flagship of the McClatchy newspaper chain, now mired in bankruptcy proceedings. The current owners show little curiosity about the role of political partisanship in the chain’s downfall.

    The mere fact that Left Wing rags have to censor themselves to protect the criminals and scumbags simply proves my point..

  242. [242] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    214

    Spot on! It reminds me of the NOAA Director being forced to include Alabama to cover Cheetogod's butt during Sharpie-gate.

    Did somebody say Sharpie? I got something for you:

    Trump Sharpie Memes Show How He Could Solve All His Problems With Pen

    And look ^^^^^ I did that thing you taught me. We have unlimited links. Heh. ;)

  243. [243] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Kick,

    That piece centered around secret extra-constitutional presidential powers.

  244. [244] 
    Michale wrote:

    For example, the current opinion editor of the Bee is Gil Duran, former press secretary for California Governor Jerry Brown and communications director for Senator Dianne Feinstein, San Francisco Democrat. On the editorial and news side, with few exceptions, the Bee simply replicates the Democratic Party line. Fake news also greased the tracks for the slide into bankruptcy.

    Editor Rick Rodriguez looked the other way at hundreds of biased, unprofessional stories about illegal aliens, who can do no wrong in the Bee’s pages. Columnist Diana Griego Erwin cranked out countless columns of pure fiction, and Bee bosses kindly allowed the faker to retire. The prevailing mouthpiece is now Marcos Bretón, who recently took cancel culture to a whole new level.

    Back in 1980 at the Lake Placid Olympics, a pickup hockey team of American collegians defeated the mighty Soviet Union by a score of 4-3. It was as though North Dakota State had knocked off the Pittsburgh Steelers, and was by many accounts the greatest victory in the history of team sports. But then, on the 40th anniversary of their historic win, team members showed up at a Trump rally.

    These were “old white men wearing red hats next to Trump,” Bretón wrote, and back in the day they were “all white, fresh-faced and eager to embrace the flag without question.” So the 1980 victory “wasn’t a miracle at all,” just a “lucky win that spawned a myth that died when the red hats came out and the truth was revealed.” For sports fans, it was a sure-fire circulation builder.

    It's hilarious... Democrats spew on and on about diversity and such..

    And their chosen champion is an old white guy who has been in DC for over 40 years and doesn't have a SINGLE accomplishment that was good for the country..

    Basement Biden's ONLY contribution was the 1994 Crime Ball that incarcerated millions of black Americans for victim-less crimes..

    Oh and his recent "IF YOU ARE A BLACK AMERICAN AND YOU DON'T VOTE FOR ME YOU AIN'T BLACK"

    No wonder 40% of black Americans support President Trump....

  245. [245] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC,

    Even though you are a confessed troll, I have decided to re-instate the wager for you and JM...

    I have done this after careful consultations and decided that it would be a boon to help out CW and Weigantia.. The Grand Poobah will be thrilled to receive such monetary funding for Weigantia..

    And I'll be thrilled that it's provided by morons who actually thought President Trump would lose when ALL the facts prove otherwise.. :D

  246. [246] 
    Michale wrote:

    Moving on to more American Greatness that is reprinted with permission.. :D

  247. [247] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Your particular brand of name-calling is quite unacceptable. Cease and desist. You know what I'm talking about - stand above the fray or be covered in you know what.

  248. [248] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    If yer hear for the day, we can start the Music at noon...

    You game??

  249. [249] 
    Michale wrote:

    Interesting point about abolishing police..

    With no police, what's to stop sane patriotic Americans from opening a hunting season on AntiFa and toddler torturing Black Lies Matter???

    Season starts when cops are abolished and there is no bag limit..

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party should be careful what it wishes for...

  250. [250] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Your particular brand of name-calling is quite unacceptable.

    ALL name-calling is unacceptable... PERIOD..

    When I stop hearing the word "troll" directed at me, I'll cease with the name-calling as well.

    Not before..

    You know what I'm talking about - stand above the fray or be covered in you know what.

    Sorry, not going to happen.. I am attacked, I will defend myself..

    It's that simple..

    If you want the name-calling from me to stop, you'll have to stop it from everyone else..

    I mean, com'on.. The reality of Weigantia is that name-calling is the way of Weigantia.

    And it has been since Jun of 2015...

  251. [251] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I'm afraid you put me out of the mood. Besides, I have other plans for this sunny Sunday until about five-ish. But, go ahead and get things stared if you wish.

    We'll stick with the 1977 theme but, let's not limit the music to that, okay?

    One of my favourite Barry Manilow tunes is from 1977 - Weekend in New England. Go ahead a post a link for me later this afternoon ...

  252. [252] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Stared??

  253. [253] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Oh, and find a better name to use if you insist on acting like a juvenile.

  254. [254] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh, and find a better name to use if you insist on acting like a juvenile.

    The name is vile and disgusting, I'll give you that..

    But it describes Vick perfectly, so it's apt. It's perfectly descriptive of someone who pays for oppo research on someone and then attempts to extort them into silence.

    Not to mention, the gross attacks from her on my wife, my children and my grand-children..

    What else do you expect from someone who cheers on the torturing of toddlers to push an extremist terrorist agenda...

    As long as name-calling is Weigantia's soup de jour, then I will use any name that applies..

    And that name PERFECTLY fits the luser, Vick..

  255. [255] 
    Michale wrote:

    One of my favourite Barry Manilow tunes is from 1977 - Weekend in New England. Go ahead a post a link for me later this afternoon ...

    I'll do you one better.. I'll post the MANDY/WEEKEND IN NEW ENGLAND mesh... A great medley that encompasses both beautiful songs..

    There may even be the VSM for your listening pleasure.. :D

  256. [256] 
    Michale wrote:

    SUMMER 2020: RIOT SEATTLE
    STANDOFF WITH FEDS IN PORTLAND
    MILITIAS CONVERGE IN LOUISVILLE
    JEEP DRIVES THROUGH CO PROTESTERS

    Again, the question MUST be asked..

    How can ANYONE in their right mind believe that sane patriotic Americans are going to vote for ^^^^ THAT...

    It's utterly delusional..

    I'll state the fact again and, since no one can refute it, it stands as fact..

    The ONLY thing the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party has going for it are polls..

    EVERYTHING else is against the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    And polls have been PROVEN to be utterly useless when it comes to gauging support for President Trump..

    Come 4 Nov 2020, ya'all will realize this.. And, if ya don't, I'll be there to remind ya'all (NEN).. :D

    Over and over and over and over again... :D

  257. [257] 
    Michale wrote:

    http://sjfm.us/pics/copattack.jpg

    So factually accurate...

  258. [258] 
    Michale wrote:

    I keep seeing AntiFa saying they’re gonna take it to the suburbs, and rural communities.

    I just wonder if these people realize, that we wait all year just to wake up a 3am, hike a couple miles in 0° weather, and sit in tree for 10 hours just to kill a moving target a few hundred yards away.

    And when we kill something, we gut it, and hang it from a tree to skin it, then we put it in a truck and haul it out and BURY the remains.

    We look forward to this activity all year.

    I REALLY don’t think we’re AntiFa's target demographic.

    :D Heh... Now THAT is funny.. :D

  259. [259] 
    Michale wrote:

    RNC Chair McDaniel: With 100 days until election, enthusiasm gap points to reelection for President Trump

    In 100 days our country will be confronted with the “time for choosing” Ronald Reagan spoke of, and there’s no doubt the stakes are high.

    This weekend marks 100 days out from Election Day. As I reflect on the last four years and think ahead to the next few months, I’m reminded of an instance that occurred roughly 100 days into President Trump’s administration. I was chaperoning my daughter’s class trip to Washington, DC.

    While millions of Americans were excited about the new administration, you couldn’t exactly count my daughter’s classmates among them.

    Their attitudes towards the new president were largely negative, and even when given a chance opportunity to meet with a senior member of the administration, their reaction was blasé, at best.

    TRUMP SAYS BIDEN LISTENING TO BERNIE'S 'RADICALIZED PEOPLE,' DRIFTING 'FURTHER LEFT'

    This initial tepidness to President Trump seemed to speak to the concerns of some who were frankly unsure if the billionaire businessman could shake up the status quo in Washington and deliver on his America-First agenda.

    Flash forward a few years and I was chaperoning the same trip for my son’s class but this time, the students’ reaction was completely different.

    A couple years and countless Promises-Made, Promises-Kept later, this time they couldn’t get their hands on the MAGA hats at the gift shop fast enough and couldn’t wait to show off just how proud they and the people of Michigan were of their president. The change in attitude was surely a reflection of the conversations taking place at their own dinner tables and the impact this president had had on their own families’ lives.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/100-days-election-enthusiasm-gap-trump-ronna-mcdaniel

    This is what you people (NEN) can't seem to grasp..

    Ya'all have your polls that you cling to, even though polls are PROVEN to be worthless...

    EVERY OTHER FACTOR in this country from the enthusiasm for President Trump thru toddler torturing Democrats and Black Lies Matter scumbags to the Democrat Party's support for cop-killings and wanton looting and destruction...

    ALL of it points to a President Trump landslide re-election..

    No one here can argue the facts of this...

    It's THAT simple...

  260. [260] 
    Michale wrote:

    As elected Democrats in cities across the country cave to the left-wing mob and let their communities devolve into anarchy and chaos, President Trump is standing up for law and order and the American people stand with him. Recent polling found Americans overwhelming oppose defunding the police – instead, they want someone who will defend the police.

    It’s little wonder Joe Biden is failing to motivate voters, even among his own party.

    It turns out raising taxes on 82 percent of Americans or eliminating entire sectors of our energy industry, along with millions of reliable, good-paying jobs, isn’t a great rallying cry for your campaign.

    Moreover, a candidate who can’t be bothered to field a few questions from friendly reporters can’t be trusted to lead our country.

    Basement Biden is too afraid to come out of his basement and engage with the American people..

    And ya'all (NEN) expect him to WIN the election???

    All I have to say to that is that must be some hellacious drugs you have there..

  261. [261] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    228

    And I show up and Vick is right here after me..

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I have my own private stalker..

    You mean people wake up in the morning and post!? OMG alert the media. And you think that's about YOU personally? You have mental issues; seek professional help.

    Well, we all already knew that when she threatened to dox me if I didn't stop posting..

    No one ever threatened to dox you if you didn't stop posting. What I did say was that I would tell the truth about you if you continued to invent lies about me. You posted your drivel, and all I've ever done is linked to what you posted. You got played, and you still won't get over it. I cannot help your ignorance that you post your personal information on this blog; it was demonstrably on display and archived for everyone to see long, long before any of the posters you keep whining about actually began posting.

    Of course, Bashi had already had you all figured out with no help from me whatsoever and long before I showed up. Full stop. Oh, Bashi... you know what I mean.

    Of course, you can't seem to stop yourself from doing it:

    OK As I mentioned before, I am officiating my daughter's wedding today..

    Here is my wedding speech..

    Any constructive comments would be most appreciated..

    Hi everyone and welcome to this blessed event..
    I sat down recently to write out what I am going to say..

    Dearly beloved.... That's what I have so far..

    (pause for laughter)

    Seriously, we are here to see Tanya and Jason off on an incredible new journey.. Their first step into becoming, in the eyes of god and man, true partners in life..

    Having taken that step almost 40 years ago with my own lovely life partner, I am so thrilled for the exciting journey that Tanya and Jason begin today.

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/02/28/ftp563/#comment-154520

    *
    I would wager no one was surprised you can't stop yourself from posting your personal information on this political blog. Additionally, if you're going to keep trolling this forum using the terms "ya'all" and "you people" and slaves and bigots and making up fake quotes ad nauseam that you attribute to posters and all your standard operational spew that precedes the majority of those posters for which you keep whining about like a diapered toddler, you can expect that your lies will continue to be answered with your truth; I have claimed nothing beyond that despite your standard drama queen mewling, moaning, and whimpering like a dog.

    How unfortunate for you that someone doxed you; check your mirror for the moron who did it. Also, ask Bashi if I'm the one who figured you out or if you handed to everyone on a "silver platter." Additonally, I believe you are getting Bashi and me confused because your memory is demonstrably and incredibly obviously bad.

    As usual, the cunt was just blowing hot air because I am still posting as I please and she can't do SHIT about it.. :D

    Would you like to discuss the Mike Hunt family some more. Please stop attempting to change the subject. You, of course, are wrong again... as you so frequently are. We all have several options if we wish to avoid your standard operational posting of full articles. If you are fully informed of the wishes of the author yet choose to ignore them and pollute his blog, well, that's on you.

    Very much like your inability to stop doxing yourself, I cannot stop you from being the board prick you've always been.

  262. [262] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    243

    That piece centered around secret extra-constitutional presidential powers.

    Yes, I see that, but it definitely brings to mind that Donald Trump has already been claiming for many years that he can do whatever he wants according to Article II of the Constitution.

    Meanwhile, God and Billy Barr and the gang have obviously put another bug in Trump's ear because he's now claiming "people don't even know about" his power. Of course, Trump has been talking regularly with Putin too. Let's hope to Hell our "Five Eyes" are seeing and hearing... and "be best" to buckle up. :)

  263. [263] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    238

    And the cunt sees my post and is forced back into Weigantia..

    Is your wife a regular reader? Awesome!

    JUST as I wanted her to do!!!

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    She's my little puppet...

    Tell us more about the Mike Hunt family.

  264. [264] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    254

    The name is vile and disgusting, I'll give you that..

    But it describes Vick perfectly, so it's apt. It's perfectly descriptive of someone who pays for oppo research on someone and then attempts to extort them into silence.

    The fact that you keep lying about this and you seem to believe that anyone would spend a damn dime on you is effing hysterical. Oh, Bashi!

    Not to mention, the gross attacks from her on my wife, my children and my grand-children..

    Your attacks are all your own words; all one needs do is quote your own words and ask if you'd like to discuss your family some more. If those are attacks, you're the attacker! Your predictable theme of people are attacking children and grandchildren is again duly noted. You keep accusing Russ of this also because you're transparent. Get a grip, pal.

    What else do you expect from someone who cheers on the torturing of toddlers to push an extremist terrorist agenda...

    Never happened not even a single time; your "silence gives assent" bullshit routine has been alive and well and precedes me by many years.

    As long as name-calling is Weigantia's soup de jour, then I will use any name that applies..

    Oh, why not continue the daily routine you've been posting in Weigantia for a long, long time. How predictable that you'd blame someone else for that routine you've been running here since long before the majority on this board showed up.

    And that name PERFECTLY fits the luser, Vick..

    Oh, joy! You have renamed one of the Mike Hunts in my honor. Oh, I am touched.

    In conclusion: Cry more.

  265. [265] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the cunt shows her true colors by attacking my wife again...

    Not surprising since she is a confessed troll who has no semblance of morality and supports torturing toddlers to pursue her Democrat agenda..

    That's why her own kids were taken from her by the state... They couldn't have her torturing her kids as a sacrifice to her Democrat Party...

    And such a lame I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I rebuttal..

    I guess that's what happens when she is a crack whore whose brain cells are totally decimated by her druggie ways...

    Total scumbag...

  266. [266] 
    Michale wrote:

    The fact that you keep lying about this and you seem to believe that anyone would spend a damn dime on you is effing hysterical. Oh, Bashi!

    Help me Bashi!!! Help!!! I am a cunt and a crack whore and Michale is kicking my ass again!!! HELP ME BASHI!!!

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    The cunt is a total luser.. But it's fun kicking her ass up one side of Weigantia and down the other...

  267. [267] 
    Michale wrote:

    You see how she is??

    She can't handle being a cunt and a crack whore.. So she has to attack my wife, my children and grandchildren wives because she can't touch me...

    She knows that I win every time because she has to attack the people I love...

    And THAT is why she is a cunt....

    In the dictionary under "CUNT" it says "Weigantian Vick See also LUSER, CRACK WHORE"

  268. [268] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh, and find a better name to use if you insist on acting like a juvenile.

    There ya go.. Now you see why 'cunt' is a perfect name for Vick...

    Who else but a cunt would attack a man's wife, children and grand children, just because she gets her ass kicked by the man on a daily, oft times hourly basis..

    If you can think of a better name for a cunt like that??

    "I am all ears..."
    -Ross Perot, 1992 Presidential Debates

  269. [269] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    265

    And the cunt shows her true colors by attacking my wife again...

    Well, they are certainly your words, and you are definitely Mike Hunt... with props to James Tiberius Canuck, of course.

    Not surprising since she is a confessed troll who has no semblance of morality and supports torturing toddlers to pursue her Democrat agenda..

    The board liar and "silence gives asset" jackass is squeaking about this repetitive shit again. If I didn't know any better (and I do), it's as if Mr. Hunt (props again JTC) has a limited repertoire that varies rarely from decade to decade and precedes me by many and multiple years.

    That's why her own kids were taken from her by the state... They couldn't have her torturing her kids as a sacrifice to her Democrat Party...

    Like I said, ladies and gentleman... a repetitive troll whose invented bullshit varies rarely because of his dearth of ideas and limited drivel and spew.

    And such a lame I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I rebuttal..

    This again!? Oh, shocker.

    I guess that's what happens when she is a crack whore whose brain cells are totally decimated by her druggie ways...

    And this again. I am fine with it, though. You could just shorten that whole repetitive thing up and refer to me as CW. Doesn't bother me one single bit. It's actually exactly how I know I got to you.

    Total scumbag...

    Tell us more about the Mike Hunt family. I don't think you've insulted them enough with your "nice" words about them all. *laughs*

  270. [270] 
    Michale wrote:

    This is the result of ya'all's Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party..

    http://sjfm.us/pics/BLM2.jpg

    Ya'all must be SOOOO proud to support such a disgusting and despicable group of people..

    I spit on the lot of you and yer Party...

  271. [271] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    you really need to quit it with the language. as a man using the c-word, it isn't just insulting to the person you're directing it at, it's insulting to ALL women, which i don't think is your intent. just as white people don't get to use the n-word, men don't get to use the c-word. that's not just our community standard, it's the global norm.

    please kindly take my word for it and choose a different direction for your name-calling.

    JL

  272. [272] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @kick/m (both)

    i think we need a general moratorium on mentions of anyone else's family members. i generally prefer to let you guys work out your own issues, but this is escalating into a major disruption for the whole comments section.

  273. [273] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    266

    Help me Bashi!!! Help!!! I am a cunt and a crack whore and Michale is kicking my ass again!!! HELP ME BASHI!!!

    Well, what goes on in the privacy of your shithole between you and the Mike Hunt family members is between you and your wife and anyone with an Internet connection and a keyboard. I do see you're confused about me asking Bashi for help; I blame your inherent and ever-present illiteracy and reading comprehension problem that is well known to the regular readers of this forum. I'm not asking Bashi for help in any way; I'm simply reminding you that Bashi is the one who knows you and has known you since long before I showed up.

    When those threads have your full name, your wife's name, your daughter's name, your swinger past that you have admitted here as well as other interests you have mentioned, then yes my substantiation is USENET. Not to mention your comment style is unique. Anyone who has read a few posts of yours would know it's you even when in the paragraph form you are no longer able to handle.

    I ask again: shall I prove you are The Imbecile?

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/24/ftp571/#comment-158135

    *

    The cunt is a total luser.. But it's fun kicking her ass up one side of Weigantia and down the other...

    Let's do talk more about the Mike Hunt family. I got links to lots of Mike Hunt information... compliments, as always... of Mike Hunt himself. *laughs*

  274. [274] 
    Michale wrote:

    Cunt & confessed troll says "blaaa blaaa blaaa, I know you are but what am I, blaa blaaa spew spew blaa blaaa"

  275. [275] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    That reflects so very, very poorly on you, Michale. I wish you would stop.

  276. [276] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    i think we need a general moratorium on mentions of anyone else's family members. i generally prefer to let you guys work out your own issues, but this is escalating into a major disruption for the whole comments section.

    I concur.

  277. [277] 
    Michale wrote:

    That reflects so very, very poorly on you, Michale. I wish you would stop.

    And I wish ALL the name-calling would stop..

    Since you single me out and ignore the cunt that ALWAYS starts it, your opinion means less than nothing to me.

    That goes for you too, JL..

    She attacks my WIFE for christ's sake!!! And you say nothing to her?? Fuck that...

    I *NEVER* start the name-calling.. But I damn well will respond when attacked..

    So, you want it to stop, you get the cunt to stop..

    Or else it never will...

    i think we need a general moratorium on mentions of anyone else's family members. i generally prefer to let you guys work out your own issues, but this is escalating into a major disruption for the whole comments section.

    OK I just saw this and that's a bit better...

    But, as I said.. She always starts things.. If you want it stop, you get her to stop with the name-calling..

    Because I will not stop defending myself or my family....

    It's that simple...

  278. [278] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    @m,

    you really need to quit it with the language. as a man using the c-word, it isn't just insulting to the person you're directing it at, it's insulting to ALL women, which i don't think is your intent. just as white people don't get to use the n-word, men don't get to use the c-word. that's not just our community standard, it's the global norm.

    please kindly take my word for it and choose a different direction for your name-calling.

    Please, Michale, take what Joshua says here to heart.

  279. [279] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's really simple, JL & Liz

    If she wouldn't start, there would NOT be a problem..

    So, if ya'all really want it stopped, then go to the source..

    Trying to take away my right to self-defence and defence of my family??

    That is complete and utter bullshit and you both it..

  280. [280] 
    Michale wrote:

    Please, Michale, take what Joshua says here to heart.

    You have my position and my terms...

    You have asked me on MANY occasions to cool it and I have always obliged..

    Where did that get me?? No where.. I was still attacked and called names by the cunt...

    You want it me to stop, the *ONLY* way it will happen is if she stops..

    That's final...

  281. [281] 
    Michale wrote:

    it isn't just insulting to the person you're directing it at, it's insulting to ALL women

    So was Team Biden's perverse sexist remarks..

    Funny how no one here said a word against that??

    Why is that??

    Because gross and perverse sexist comments are perfectly acceptable to ya'all when they come from ya'all's side of the political spectrum..

    Scroo that... You show some consistency, then we can talk..

    Til then, this is how it's going to be...

  282. [282] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    267

    You see how she is??

    No, Mike; you're the only one who can see the Mike Hunt family. Tell us more about them, will you?

    She can't handle being a cunt and a crack whore.. So she has to attack my wife, my children and grandchildren wives because she can't touch me...

    Well, seeing your attitude from years of reading bits of your repetitive drivel and spew, I can sure shit see why she wouldn't want to.

    She knows that I win every time because she has to attack the people I love...

    Well, they're your words, sunshine. Congratulations for being so proud of yourself for pissing repeatedly and regularly on each and every one of the Mike Hunt family.

    In the dictionary under "CUNT" it says "Weigantian Vick See also LUSER, CRACK WHORE"

    Let's talk more about the Mike Hunts. Also, I see no demonstrable evidence archived for years herein that you possess a dictionary... or even the tiniest ability to use it if you had one. Your dearth of ideas is again duly noted. *laughs*

  283. [283] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike Hunt
    268

    There ya go.. Now you see why 'cunt' is a perfect name for Vick...

    Aw shucks... I am so honored that you named one of the Mike Hunts after me.

    Who else but a cunt would attack a man's wife, children and grand children, just because she gets her ass kicked by the man on a daily, oft times hourly basis..

    Oh, oh... I know the answer to this: It's Mike Hunt since they're definitely Mike Hunt's words and no one else's.

    If you can think of a better name for a cunt like that??

    Tell us more about the Mike Hunts; it's all your handiwork, you do realize.

    "I am all ears..."
    -Ross Perot, 1992 Presidential Debates

    Don't sell yourself short, sunshine; your repetitive mouth archived herein for decades makes your elephant ears look tiny by comparison. *laughs*

  284. [284] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    274

    Weak teabaggery. Troll harder.

  285. [285] 
    Michale wrote:

    }}}i think we need a general moratorium on mentions of }}}anyone else's family members. i generally prefer to }}}let you guys work out your own issues, but this is }}}escalating into a major disruption for the whole }}}comments section.

    I concur.

    And yet, the cunt continues the disgusting attacks on my wife, children and grand-children and ya'all say nothing..

    So, explain to me why I should acquiesce to your requests to stop the name-calling when it's clear ya'all have no intention of following up when she continues the attacks on my family???

    Hmmmmm???

  286. [286] 
    Kick wrote:

    LET'S REVIEW

    [250] Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Your particular brand of name-calling is quite unacceptable.

    ALL name-calling is unacceptable... PERIOD..

    When I stop hearing the word "troll" directed at me, I'll cease with the name-calling as well.

    Not before..

    *
    FUN FACT

    The first mention of the word "troll(s)" on this commentary came from Michale at [50] above.

    But say 1400hrs it's all music from me.. Even if the trolls push my buttons..

    You have my word...

    *
    ADDITIONAL FUN FACT

    The first mention of "troll" today:

    [218] Michale wrote:

    Anyone ever notice that Vick always leaves the forum after I sign off for the night??

    Why, it's almost as if she is ONLY here to troll and push buttons..

    Uncanny...

    *
    Mike at [218].

    Just in case anyone was buying into the utter asinine ridiculous and nonsensical assertion that Mike is acting out because he got triggered by the word "troll."

    So to recap: Does Mike not read his own posts?

  287. [287] 
    Michale wrote:

    Since I am so disgusted with people in this forum, I am going to forgo my participation in Music Sunday...

    I see no reason to meet anyone halfway, when fellow Founders aren't even willing to move an inch towards my side of the issue...

  288. [288] 
    Michale wrote:

    Antifa targeting specific businesses, militias form as US cities brace for more violence

    American protests: Demonstrations, violent riots expected to continue throughout the country

    Tensions have heightened since federal officials were sent to quell riots in Portland, Oregon
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/america-protests-violent-riots-expected-to-continue

    As I predicted... A shooting civil war is inevitable...

    And I am on the side of the people who are 98% armed and trained for such combat...

    Against a group that is afraid of guns and don't have an ounce of relevant training...

  289. [289] 
    Michale wrote:

    Reposted for clarity...

    Antifa targeting specific businesses, militias form as US cities brace for more violence

    American protests: Demonstrations, violent riots expected to continue throughout the country

    Tensions have heightened since federal officials were sent to quell riots in Portland, Oregon
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/america-protests-violent-riots-expected-to-continue

    As I predicted... A shooting civil war is inevitable...

    And I am on the side of the people who are 98% armed and trained for such combat...

    Against a group that is afraid of guns and don't have an ounce of relevant training...

  290. [290] 
    Michale wrote:

    The chaos in Portland saw rioters break through a reinforced fence surrounding the Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Courthouse in the city’s downtown, police said. The courthouse has been a target for rioters, who have repeatedly vandalized and damaged the building over multiple nights. Federal officers have recently been assigned to the building.

    The huge crowd outside the courthouse included the Wall of Moms and the Wall of Vets. Meanwhile, a Portland resident told Fox News last week that Antifa also has been present at the protests.

    Gabriel Johnson, a 48-year-old Black man and retired Marine, said that after he went to protest outside the courthouse with his American flag in hand on July19, he was called racial slurs and members of Antifa followed him home.

    “These people have nothing to do with Black lives. Our Black community leaders need to stand up and lead because what's happening is they're letting a group of terrorists that don't represent me use me, and that's not right,” said Johnson.

    This is exactly why over 40% of black Americans support President Trump...

    The ONLY thing the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter party has going for it are bullshit polls that have been PROVEN to be wrong..

  291. [291] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    "Booger!"
    -Dr. Johnny Fever
    WKRP in Cinncinatti

  292. [292] 
    Michale wrote:

    People in the crowd Saturday night threw rocks, bottles, and unknown liquids over the fence, and were shining lasers and launching fireworks at the building, police said.

    As officers tried to disperse the crowd, police said they were hit with bottles and paint balloons. People also shot mortar-style fireworks at officers from the ground and from parking garages.

    Portland police said CS gas and other munitions were used to help disperse the crowd. However, many people wore gas masks and wielded makeshift shields, umbrellas, and leaf blowers to try and thwart police attempts to break up the groups.

    The crowd dissipated just before 2:30 a.m., police said. Several arrests were made.

    You people really need to re-read your history on what happened the last time Democrats got with this kind of violence against police in 1968..

    Things were bad for the Party for quite a while afterwards...

    History is going to repeat itself..

  293. [293] 
    Michale wrote:

    Earlier in the day, a protester accidentally shot three members of his own group at a park where Black activists had gathered, police said. The victims, all of whom were members of the "NFAC" militia group, were taken to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

    This is who is fighting on the side of the toddler torturing Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party..

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Moron took out three members of his militia...

    Yea, the coming civil war is going to be a MASS of casualties on the side of you Lefties.. Most of it will be self-inflicted.. :D

  294. [294] 
    Kick wrote:

    And yet, the cunt continues the disgusting attacks on my wife, children and grand-children and ya'all say nothing..

    So says Mike Hunt, and it's his family he keeps insulting and pissing on repeatedly so we must definitely take him at his own "word." 'Cause he definitely was bestowed the name "Mike Hunt"... and I can assure without hesitation it was not by me... *JTC*

    So, explain to me why I should acquiesce to your requests to stop the name-calling when it's clear ya'all have no intention of following up when she continues the attacks on my family???

    Let's do talk more about the Mike Hunts. They really only come up when you mention them by your pet name for them, and if you wouldn't talk about the Mike Hunts, I would wager without hesitation that no one else would either. It's all your handiwork, you know.

    Do you read your own posts, Mr. Hunt? <---- rhetorical question. In them, you most definitely do not remotely live up to the standards you keep setting for everyone else.

    In conclusion:

    Michale [14] -

    Don't put on airs. You are a troll, but a more amusing one than most. Plus, you salt your trolling with sci-fi movie references. And you pay your way, at the end of the year in the pledge drive. So you're a very special troll... but a troll nonetheless.

    Deal with it.

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/06/29/p-d-b-answers-needed-p-d-q/#comment-162641

    *
    I ain't exactly alone in my assessments.

    Hello... McFly!

  295. [295] 
    Michale wrote:

    The cunt and confessed troll continues with her bitch braying and mewling "blaaa blaaaa blaaa I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I blaaa spew blaa blaa spew spew"

  296. [296] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    295

    The cunt and confessed troll continues with her bitch braying and mewling "blaaa blaaaa blaaa I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I blaaa spew blaa blaa spew spew"

    That is some repetitive and weak teabagging, Mike Hunt. Do tell us more about the Mike Hunt family affairs.

  297. [297] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the cunt continues her disgusting attacks on my wife, children and grand-children and of course gets away with it because she is a toddler torturing Democrat...

    Too bad she had to go and spoil Weigantia Music Sunday with her gross and perverse attacks..

    Stoopid cunt...

  298. [298] 
    Kick wrote:

    Giroir says coronavirus testing turnaround times still too long in US

    The Trump administration official overseeing critical coronavirus testing on Sunday conceded that turnaround times are still too long in the United States, as officials try to get a handle on the virus months into the pandemic.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/26/politics/brett-giroir-testing-times-coronavirus-cnntv/index.html

    __________________________

    Who knew?

  299. [299] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    297

    And the cunt continues her disgusting attacks on my wife, children and grand-children and of course gets away with it because she is a toddler torturing Democrat...

    Is one of the Mike Hunts a Democrat? That is a matter of public record, you know, and it makes me no nevermind how the Mike Hunt family chooses to treat their own... what happens in the Mike Hunt home should stay with the Mike Hunts.

    Too bad she had to go and spoil Weigantia Music Sunday with her gross and perverse attacks..

    Stoopid cunt...

    Well, that does not surprise me about the Mike Hunts, and I would wager without hesitation that it doesn't surprise anyone else that the Mike Hunts share a level of education that is equal to that of Weigantia's own Mike Hunt.

    I did ask for something new, and you definitely delivered.

  300. [300] 
    Michale wrote:

    And once again, the stoopid cunt threatens more oppos research in an effort to silence me...

    The cunt has already proven that she doesn't have squat on me.. She is completely and utterly impotent..

    And yet she continues to spew her bullshit.. But at least I forced her to stop the attacks on my family...

    So that's a start...

  301. [301] 
    Kick wrote:

    From Donald Trump to Ted Yoho, Republicans are losing with women voters

    Though the United States is rightly focused on the coronavirus pandemic, last week's events in Washington underscored that two years after women powered the Democrats' 2018 push to flip the House of Representatives, Trump and some members of his Republican Party have not learned their lesson -- and still cannot seem to show that they will treat women as equals and respect the dignity of their work both at home and in the professional realm.
    ...
    But in the Thursday afternoon tweet that seemed straight out of the 1950s, Trump said "The Suburban Housewives of America must read this article. Biden will destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream. I will preserve it, and make it even better!"
    ...
    In another example of his failure to think about the consequences before he speaks, he wished Ghislaine Maxwell "well" during a Tuesday briefing on the coronavirus even though she faces charges for recruiting, grooming and ultimately sexually abusing minors who were as young as 14 as Jeffrey Epstein's alleged accomplice.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/26/politics/2020-election-trump-biden-women-voters/index.html

  302. [302] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    i have one kid who's two years, and another who's two months. very little time to come here and mediate between two people who are writing things they both damn well know they oughtn't.

    start with yourself. if you chill out and kick continues to rag on your family, it will be her who looks foolish, not you. if she stops and you don't... well, do i really need to finish that sentence?

    JL

  303. [303] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [55]

    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Don,

    So let's bring into the sunlight the reason we are where we are now- both parties are corrupted by big money.

    The reason we are where we are now, has everything to do with a novel coronavi … well, actually, you may be right about that.

    I just disagree with you over how that problem can be fixed. :)

    I second that, Elizabeth.

    Comrade Don

    You'd probably find that most Weigantians agree that we have "the worst government that money can buy." No need to belabor that point (to me, at least, is annoying and IMO distracts from the mission.)

    The biggie is how to solve the problem and that's where many of us remain unconvinced by One Demand as you've presented it.

    Bear with me. I'm relatively new to our Comments section so the issues I raise may have been addressed by you in the past. And I believe I've demonstrated more genuine interest in OD than most Weigantians, and all the shit that's happened since Saint Ronnie started the Repugs decades long assault on the New Deal make it imperative that we have to get Big Money out of our politics.

    I reprint (repost?) a post from Bleyd, who wrote:

    I'm seeing a pretty monumental flaw in your OD plan. You essentially seem to require a majority of the citizens to simultaneously go on strike against non-OD candidates in favor of a single OD-friendly candidate in order for it to work. That's simply unrealistic.

    First you'd have to find a candidate who agreed to OD's principles and who is popular enough to get the financial support of such a huge segment of the population that they could out-raise the major party candidates. That alone is simply not possible to do all in one go. No candidate of sufficient popularity would willing risk handicapping themselves so monumentally with the rules as they stand.

    Even if you could find such a candidate though, how are you expecting to get so many small donors that they could keep up with the current fund raising system? How are you going to convince them that their donations wouldn't be in vain, that the candidate they're supporting would have a realistic chance of beating someone entrenched in the current system? Most people aren't willing to throw money at causes they don't believe have a chance.

    So I ask you, what is the workable plan of action you are proposing? Ideals and concepts are great, but unless you have a way to put them into practice, they won't get you far.

    To these concerns I add "what about the oceans of PAC money, some of it fairly dark and I suspect some of it foreign." The parasitic economist elite will spend whatever it takes to defeat Progressivism.

    Let's discuss!

  304. [304] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    300

    And once again, the stoopid cunt threatens more oppos research in an effort to silence me...

    Okay, all kidding aside; you have a screw loose. Kindly have the maternal head of the Mike Hunts check you into the nearest nuthouse for professional help.

    The cunt has already proven that she doesn't have squat on me.. She is completely and utterly impotent..

    What's this? Mike Hunt is impotent and got no squat? Far be it from me to question his confessions of total inadequacy; I would definitely take Mike Hunt's word for it.

    And yet she continues to spew her bullshit.. But at least I forced her to stop the attacks on my family...

    So that's a start...

    Ah, and control issues to go along with the loose screws. They can take care of all the Mike Hunt's nuts issues at the nearest psych ward; simply have one of the Mike Hunt family drive you directly to the nearest facility to have you admitted: Person... woman... man... camera... TV.

  305. [305] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Michale,

    The first use of profanity beyond Don paraphrasing AOC is you in post 117 as far as I can find.

    But the new behavior in this thread that I have not seen before was using your lame word twisting on nypoet22. The dude is and has been consistently polite through the life of this blog. He tried to have a real discussion with you and you basically could not handle it. That was a dick move.

    Everyone here has figured out if you use misogynistic profanity against Kick, she asks you to stop talking about your family. And that's it. You don't want your family brought up even as a foil to your own language, stop the misogynistic profanity. We all know the game at this point, your hysteria is only fooling yourself...

  306. [306] 
    Kick wrote:

    Trump is behind in a state no Republican has won the presidency without in 96 years

    Poll of the week: A new CNN/SSRS poll finds that former Vice President Joe Biden leads in the state of Florida by a 51% to 46% margin over President Donald Trump among registered voters.

    The CNN poll follows a Quinnipiac University poll released earlier this week, which showed Biden with a 51% to 38% lead.

    What's the point: Trump hasn't led in a single Florida poll since early March.

    The fact that the polls in Florida favor Biden should be one of the biggest warning signs yet for Trump's fledgling campaign. Yes, we still have 100 days to go, and history does suggest that the gap in Florida could close.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/26/politics/trump-trails-in-must-win-florida/index.html

  307. [307] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    as i said...

  308. [308] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL & Liz,

    Yunno, if you don't like the word, you might want to have a talk with yer fellow Democrat about it.

    I mean she keeps going on and on about her cunt (my cunt this and my cunt that)...

    But, apparently, she has more than one.. My Cunts... I dunno, maybe she uses her ass as one...

    But if you want to reign in use of the word, have a talk with her..

    I'll stop when she stops...

    That simple...

  309. [309] 
    Kick wrote:

    Rep. Ted Yoho resigns from board of Christian organization following AOC incident

    Florida GOP Rep. Ted Yoho has resigned from the board of a Christian organization that works to fight hunger following his tense exchange with Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York.
    ...
    "We believe that Rep. Ted Yoho's recent actions and words as reported in the media are not reflective of the ethical standards expected of members of our Board of Directors," the organization wrote in a statement.

    "...[B]read sought his resignation as an action that reaffirms our commitment to coming alongside women and people of color, nationally and globally, as they continue to lead us to a more racially inclusive and equitable world."

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/25/politics/ted-yoho-resigns-christian-organization-aoc/index.html

  310. [310] 
    Michale wrote:

    Blathy,

    So, you believe that if a girl wears as short skirt, she deserves to be raped..

    How is that any different than your belief that, if I talk about my family, my kids and my grandkids, they deserve to be attacked in the most disgusting manner possible??

    Yer simply an apologist for a sick fuck that attacks a man's family because her insults can't touch the man...

    Everyone here has figured out if you use misogynistic profanity against Kick,

    You complain about alleged misogyny but ignore the sexist bullshit coming from Team Biden.

    Fuck you... Yer nothing but an apologist and a hypocrit..

  311. [311] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Yawn.

    148,593 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

  312. [312] 
    Michale wrote:

    as i said...

    Yea, as you said while you ignored the disgusting attacks on my wife, children and grand children beyond some half hearted valium induced "please stop that.."

    You ignore the cunt's continued attacks on my family and yet follow up with your condemnation of my defence of myself and my family..

    Explain to me how that is consistent??

    You can't because it isn't..

    I mean, look at what you are agreeing with..

    YOu agree with Blathy that, just because I talk about my family, that justifies the cunts disgusting attacks on them..

    Therefore, logically, since you mentioned your new baby, that means he is fair game to attack in the most vile and disgusting manner possible??

    THAT is what you are agreeing to!???

    Seriously, dood.. How you can even go there is beyond comprehension..

    I get it.. The cunt is a fellow Democrat and you protect your own to the exclusion of all else..

    But don't sit there and pretend you are being fair because it's clear to all who have more than 2 brain cells to rub together that you are not.. You side with the Democrat cunt because YOU are a Democrat..

    That simple..

  313. [313] 
    Michale wrote:

    148,593 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

    8,916 dead from coronavirus per the CDC...

    Your "facts" are as fucked up as yer brain is...

  314. [314] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    I feel the self-delusion is strong with this one...

  315. [315] 
    Michale wrote:

    Funny... That's what the facts prove about you...

    Only 6% of deaths are actually from covid.. This is fact...

    Face reality, jackass.. You love it when Americans die, and even lie about how they die..

  316. [316] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike Hunt
    308

    Yunno, if you don't like the word, you might want to have a talk with yer fellow Democrat about it.

    I am still not a Democrat; you can drivel and spew your repetitive lies until the cows come home, but repeating lies over and over like a stuck pig cannot magically turn your lies into facts.

    I mean she keeps going on and on about her cunt (my cunt this and my cunt that)...

    Excuse me, Mike Hunt, but may I kindly request that you pick a lane and stay in it. Either I am insulting your family as you keep insisting or your going with this newly invented drivel and spew of yours. You can't have it both ways unless you're willing to concede you're hysterical.

    But, apparently, she has more than one.. My Cunts... I dunno, maybe she uses her ass as one...

    Please direct all of your queries to the family of Mike Hunt whom you keep insisting that I'm insulting... or is it your assertion that I'm commenting about someone else entirely. Again... pick a lane, Mike Hunt!

    But if you want to reign in use of the word, have a talk with her..

    I haven't used the word even a single time on this commentary unless I was quoting the use of it by others, primary you, in fact, Mike Hunt.

    I'll stop when she stops...

    I haven't used it once unless in quotations. As I said, Mike Hunt, kindly have one of the Mike Hunt family drive you to the nearest nuthouse where maybe they will check your eyesight and help you get your pathetic story straight. Person... woman... man... camera... TV.

  317. [317] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the cunt continues to spew "blaaa blaaa spew spew I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I spew spew blaa blaaa blaaa"

    Get some new material, cunt.. Yer a broken record.

    But I am curious. Since you claim to have more than one cunt, do you use your ass as one???

    That way you can have your daddy in one and your dog in the other.. Is that how you spend your nights??

    Actually, I don't want to know..

    Forget I asked...

  318. [318] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m, *sigh*

    if you'd like to take potshots at an infant, that's your decision, and it would reflect a lot worse on you than it would on him. liz and i have both made clear that we don't approve of kick's redirection of your flame war at family members.

    we also don't approve of the language you're using, because it insults a whole lot more people than the person it's directed at. and we roll our collective eyes at your attempt to compare your own online conduct to the running of a political campaign.

    liz, feel free to step in if you disagree.

    JL

  319. [319] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    310

    So, you believe that if a girl wears as short skirt, she deserves to be raped..

    This shit again?

    How is that any different than your belief that, if I talk about my family, my kids and my grandkids, they deserve to be attacked in the most disgusting manner possible??

    Screws... loose.

    Yer simply an apologist for a sick fuck that attacks a man's family because her insults can't touch the man...
    Mike Hunt has finally conceded that Mike is indeed "sick" in the manner as I have been describing. This is indeed a breakthrough for the "slick cluck."

    You complain about alleged misogyny but ignore the sexist bullshit coming from Team Biden.

    What's this? Mike Hunt wants to discuss political issues instead of other posters? It's like he came to a board full of Democrats and Democrat-leaning Independent voters and expected to find a bunch of MAGAts!

    Fuck you... Yer nothing but an apologist and a hypocrit..

    Thus my theory that Mike is a "slick cluck" with no dictionary are proven. Is there anyone on the forum that Mike Hunt hasn't insulted today? How long before Mike Hunt starts the standard operational spew about killing Democrats... Oh, wait!

  320. [320] 
    Kick wrote:

    BashiBazouk
    311

    Yawn.

    I know, right!?

    148,593 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

    I can assure you they've been being miscounted at VA hospitals since March. That number is likely double, and they almost to a man/woman want to know why they were told it is a "hoax." So sad.

  321. [321] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    if you'd like to take potshots at an infant, that's your decision, and it would reflect a lot worse on you than it would on him.

    And yet, Vick taking potshots at my grand-children and my children doesn't reflect badly on her in your eyes...

    You see my point??

    liz and i have both made clear that we don't approve of kick's redirection of your flame war at family members.

    Yes, you mentioned it once.. She mentioned it once.. Yet, with me, it's on-going..

    Considering what she has done is much much worse than what I have done, I would expect at least as much effort into shutting her down as you both try to shut me down..

    we also don't approve of the language you're using, because it insults a whole lot more people than the person it's directed at.

    As does Vick's constant attacks on my family... Again, ya'all's single responses to her indicate that you simply pay lip service to condemning her and you don't really mean it..

    and we roll our collective eyes at your attempt to compare your own online conduct to the running of a political campaign.

    Really?? So.. in your eyes, gross sexism and misogyny is perfectly acceptable when it is part and parcel to running a campaign??

    Explain how that works, exactly...

    The simple fact is, you are not being fair here.. Since what Vick does is tons worse than my personal attacks on HER and HER ALONE, I would think that would balance things out and you would put AT LEAST as much effort into shutting her up as you are attempting with me..

    The ONLY possible conclusion is you are going easy on her because she is a fellow Democrat..

    If there is a flaw in that logic, by all means..

    Point it out..

  322. [322] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    312

    Yea, as you said while you ignored the disgusting attacks on my wife, children and grand children beyond some half hearted valium induced "please stop that.."

    Now, hold on a minute. I'll decide who appears to be on drugs. Yes, it's definitely you, Mike Hunt.

    You ignore the cunt's continued attacks on my family and yet follow up with your condemnation of my defence of myself and my family..

    It seems Mike Hunt cannot stop himself from discussing the Mike Hunt family. Poor Mike.

    YOu agree with Blathy that, just because I talk about my family, that justifies the cunts disgusting attacks on them..

    No one is attacking the family of Mike Hunt except Mike Hunt himself. If you'll stop bringing up the Mike Hunt family, I would wager that you'd hear nary a peep from anybody about the Mike Hunts.

    Therefore, logically, since you mentioned your new baby, that means he is fair game to attack in the most vile and disgusting manner possible??

    Leave his family out of this and stick to insulting your own, Mike Hunt. JL has never been anything except cordial to you... far more cordial than you've ever deserved considering the repetitive drivel you spew on a quite regular basis.

    I get it.. The cunt is a fellow Democrat and you protect your own to the exclusion of all else..

    But enough about the family of Mike Hunt... TMI, Mike.

    But don't sit there and pretend you are being fair because it's clear to all who have more than 2 brain cells to rub together that you are not.. You side with the Democrat cunt because YOU are a Democrat..

    I am still not a Democrat, and you are still dumber than a barrel of hair if you think repeating a lie over and over again will somehow magically make it a fact like a unicorn that farts rainbows or a pixie who frolics in the meadow.

    That simple..

    Mike Hunt is nothing if not "simple."

  323. [323] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua,

    With regard to the asinine antics of Kick and Michale, we have said it all. One is as bad as the other in a pathetic race to the bottom. It's even getting hard to ignore. But, this is what happens when there is not only no moderation but, some egging on, as well. You end up stuck in a cesspool that attracts only more of the same.

    Well, to all ... the CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party will soon be underway and here is a special request to leave all political nastiness at the door and post your political songs, instead!

    Everyone is welcome to join in the fun! Tonight, the year 1977 is in focus but, bring your favourite tunes from any era! We don't discriminate around here. :)

  324. [324] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, just for the record..

    and we roll our collective eyes at your attempt to compare your own online conduct to the running of a political campaign.

    The sexist and disgusting comments from Team Biden were NOT in conjunction with running the campaign. It came in personal interactions from a Senior Campaign Advisor...

    You sure would have plenty to comment if it came from Team President Trump, I am positive of that...

    Basically, my comments are in line with Team Biden's comments..

    Since the ones from Team Biden are not worthy of condemnation then logic demands that mine be treated in the same manner..

    "Simple logic."
    Captain Spock, STAR TREK IV, The Undiscovered Country

    :D

  325. [325] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    317

    And the cunt continues to spew "blaaa blaaa spew spew I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I spew spew blaa blaaa blaaa"

    Too repetitious. Heard it all before.

    Get some new material, cunt.. Yer a broken record.

    More information about the family of Mike Hunt. This windbag simply cannot control himself. TMI, Mike Hunt!

    But I am curious. Since you claim to have more than one cunt, do you use your ass as one???

    Not interested, Mike Hunt the Imbecile, but I would be curious to know why you're curious since I've heard from Bashi that this would be right up your alley.

    That way you can have your daddy in one and your dog in the other.. Is that how you spend your nights??

    Tell us more about a Mike Hunt family evening. On second thought... please don't!

  326. [326] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    And yet, Vick taking potshots at my grand-children and my children doesn't reflect badly on her in your eyes...

    it absolutely does. and i would love it if she would shut up about you and your family.

    Considering what she has done is much much worse than what I have done, I would expect at least as much effort into shutting her down as you both try to shut me down..

    as distasteful as her responses to you have been, she's done a better job than you have at staying within the rules of the forum. perhaps we could talk with CW about that.

    JL

  327. [327] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the cunt still goes on and on about her cunt...

    "blaa blaaa my cunt spew spew blaa my cunt my cunt blaa blaaa my cunt spew blaa blaa"

    She must be very proud of her cunt.. I am sure it's open for business 24 hours a day...

  328. [328] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Maybe we need to change the rules, then ...

  329. [329] 
    Michale wrote:

    it absolutely does. and i would love it if she would shut up about you and your family.

    Don't tell me... I am completely of the same mind as you...

    as distasteful as her responses to you have been, she's done a better job than you have at staying within the rules of the forum.

    Really?? Oppo research... Attacks on children and grand-children.. Extortion...

    THAT is according to the rules here??

    perhaps we could talk with CW about that.

    Again, I am in complete agreement with you on that..

  330. [330] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    321

    And yet, Vick taking potshots at my grand-children and my children doesn't reflect badly on her in your eyes...

    You're delusional and full of shit up to your eyeballs.

    Yes, you mentioned it once.. She mentioned it once.. Yet, with me, it's on-going..

    No, it isn't.

    Considering what she has done is much much worse than what I have done, I would expect at least as much effort into shutting her down as you both try to shut me down..

    I'm taking your words and turning them back on you. Nothing more than I told you I would do if you continued to invent lies. You're still doing it.

    As does Vick's constant attacks on my family...

    You're delusional.

    Again, ya'all's single responses to her indicate that you simply pay lip service to condemning her and you don't really mean it..

    You're delusional.

    Really?? So.. in your eyes, gross sexism and misogyny is perfectly acceptable when it is part and parcel to running a campaign??

    Voted for Donald Trump yet whines like a toddler about misogyny. *laughs*

    The simple fact is, you are not being fair here.. Since what Vick does is tons worse than my personal attacks on HER and HER ALONE, I would think that would balance things out and you would put AT LEAST as much effort into shutting her up as you are attempting with me..

    Attack her, attack her! Somebody attack Kick for me! Help me, help me! Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamulance!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The ONLY possible conclusion is you are going easy on her because she is a fellow Democrat..

    I'm still not a Democrat; you're still a moron stuck on permanently effing ignorant.

    If there is a flaw in that logic, by all means..

    The flaw is this: You claiming that anyone who doesn't toe your obvious Party line is a Democrat is pure unadulterated repetitive BS... but you'v got very little else except that oft repeated shit to offer. So you keep retching up the same shit over and over!

  331. [331] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK Let's take a look at some of the rules..

    Don't threaten other commenters,

    Vick has done that to me several times..

    Don't engage in ad hominem attacks on people -- feel free to attack ideas (in other words), but be warned when you attack people you may reap our wrath,

    Vick does that ALL the time...

    And yes, I do as well..

    But *ONLY* in response to her constant attacks on myself, my wife, my children and my grand-children...

    It's clearly obvious who is the problem here..

    There was NOTHING like this from ANYONE until she showed up...

    Her departure would go a LONG ways into making Weigantia a fun place to be again..

    This is fact...

  332. [332] 
    Michale wrote:

    Her departure would go a LONG ways into making Weigantia a fun place to be again..

    And it's easy to prove...

    Give her a penalty time out for a week.. See how awesome things would be without her...

  333. [333] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    326

    it absolutely does. and i would love it if she would shut up about you and your family.

    What he is describing about his children and grandchildren is not happening by me or Russ or any of the other posters whom he regularly accuses of this.

    as distasteful as her responses to you have been, she's done a better job than you have at staying within the rules of the forum. perhaps we could talk with CW about that.

    That distaste is Mike having his own spew applied to him and his. Bashi totally gets it... along with a whole lot more, I can assure you. Mike is mischaracterizing it. #SSDD

    Bring it!

  334. [334] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    SUMMER 2020: RIOT SEATTLE
    STANDOFF WITH FEDS IN PORTLAND
    MILITIAS CONVERGE IN LOUISVILLE
    JEEP DRIVES THROUGH CO PROTESTERS

    Again, the question MUST be asked..

    How can ANYONE in their right mind believe that sane patriotic Americans are going to vote for ^^^^ THAT...

    Of course no one is going to vote for that... and anyone who votes for the President under whom all of those things occurred would also be voting for...

    RUSSIANS PUT BOUNTY ON US FORCES, TRUMP DOES NOTHING
    TRUMP ENRICHING HIS FAMILY AT AMERICA’S EXPENSE
    TRUMP SAYS HE TAKES NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS FAILURE TO ADDRESS VIRUS
    TRUMP CREATES HIS OWN GESTAPO TO PULL CITIZENS OFF STREETS

    No, patriotic Americans know that voting for Trump means that all of these things will only get worse, so they will vote Trump out of office as well as all of the Republicans who did nothing to stop his corruption!

  335. [335] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Maybe we need to change the rules, then ...

    I completely and 1000% agree with you here...

    Personal attacks and personal name-calling should be outlawed..

    Definitely extortion and oppo research on commenters should be outlawed.. That should go without saying.. It's a sad commentary on Weigantia that it has to be said..

    And DEFINITELY personal attacks on family members should be outlawed. Again, sad commentary that it has to be specified..

    I would completely and utterly agree and abide by these rules..

    But I bet you 20,000 quatloos that Vick would oppose them..

    She can't survive without her ability to attack other commenters and commenters' family with gross personal attacks..

    I am all for it.. I think JL would be on board..

    But everyone else would be opposed..

    Ironically enough, everyone who lives for personal attacks would be opposed..

  336. [336] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of course no one is going to vote for that... and anyone who votes for the President under whom all of those things occurred would also be voting for...

    RUSSIANS PUT BOUNTY ON US FORCES, TRUMP DOES NOTHING
    TRUMP ENRICHING HIS FAMILY AT AMERICA’S EXPENSE
    TRUMP SAYS HE TAKES NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS FAILURE TO ADDRESS VIRUS
    TRUMP CREATES HIS OWN GESTAPO TO PULL CITIZENS OFF STREETS

    Of course, none of that has ever happened..

    Once again, I am talking about documented FACTS..

    You are talking about fantasy that doesn't exist..

    But I am glad you agree that no sane patriotic American is going to vote for the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party..

    Common ground.. A wonderful thing... :D

    Thanx Russ.. Yer a mensch.. :D

  337. [337] 
    Michale wrote:

    Cunt,

    What he is describing about his children and grandchildren is not happening by me or Russ or any of the other posters whom he regularly accuses of this.

    Your attacks on my family are wide-spread and well documented.. In this thread alone there are dozens of attacks on my family..

    My family includes my wife, my children and my grand-children.. There has also been specific attacks against my children specifically.. Again, this is well-documented..

    You have been proven to be a liar...

    As if anyone needs any more proof..

    Your time here is short.. Get used to that..

  338. [338] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    327

    And the cunt still goes on and on about her cunt...

    Let's do talk more about the Mike Hunt family; it appears Mike Hunt can't get enough of insulting them.

    "blaa blaaa my cunt spew spew blaa my cunt my cunt blaa blaaa my cunt spew blaa blaa"

    The Mike Hunts sound like a repetitive record "players."

    She must be very proud of her cunt.. I am sure it's open for business 24 hours a day...

    The Mike Hunt family of "players" never tires. I've heard that about the Mike Hunts... and all this is according to the "player" Mike Hunt!

    Oh, Bashi. How pathetic is Mike Hunt!?

  339. [339] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    329

    Really?? Oppo research... Attacks on children and grand-children.. Extortion...

    THAT is according to the rules here??

    You're delusional and making shit up that never happened because you've got multiple screws loose.

    Again, I am in complete agreement with you on that..

    You put a whole bunch of words in his mouth and then agreed with him. Same old shit from Mike, different day.

  340. [340] 
    Michale wrote:

    Even ignoring the fact that she is lying about attacking my kids and grand kids..

    She concedes that she IS attacking my wife in the most profane and disgusting manner.

    THAT ALONE proves what a complete and utter waste of skin she is...

    She knows her attacks on me just bounce off.. So she attacks my wife..

    What a lowlife scumbag she is..

  341. [341] 
    Michale wrote:

    And she continues to talk about her cunt..

    My cunt this, my cunt that...

    If she can talk about her cunt so much well, that makes it open season, right???

    "blaaa blaaa my cunt blaaa blaaa blaaa my cunt spew spew oh mommy, put on the strap on and do my cunt that's my ass, spew blaa blaaa blaaa"

  342. [342] 
    goode trickle wrote:

    Wow! Been awhile since I have seen this level of cuntiness (as they would say in the U.K.)

    It's unfortunate that the discussion has revolved around of Mike Hunt. No discussion of the Hunt clan would be complete without the mention of the grand patriarch Euke Hunt.

    As we used to say to an unpopular stage manager on Sundays as we were heading out the door...

    see
    yoU
    Next
    Tuesday

  343. [343] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    331

    OK Let's take a look at some of the rules..

    Don't threaten other commenters,

    Vick has done that to me several times..

    Liar.

    Don't engage in ad hominem attacks on people -- feel free to attack ideas (in other words), but be warned when you attack people you may reap our wrath,

    Vick does that ALL the time...

    And yes, I do as well..

    Who knew!?

    But *ONLY* in response to her constant attacks on myself, my wife, my children and my grand-children...

    Welcome to Bullshit Mountain where you'll be staying at the Delusional Inn.

    It's clearly obvious who is the problem here..

    There was NOTHING like this from ANYONE until she showed up...

    You do realize this forum is archived, right?

    Her departure would go a LONG ways into making Weigantia a fun place to be again..

    I wouldn't be the first person you wanted gone from this place and bragged about how you've run off.

    I'm not leaving. You're delusional.

    This is fact...

    You wouldn't know a fact if it lived on your ample ass.

  344. [344] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Reminder: We are just a little over a week away from Trump unveiling his new healthcare package that will completely replace the need for ObamaCare (the ACA)!

    Trump promised us he would roll it out by August 4! It is odd that no one in Congress from either party have been included in its creation, but Trump did say that ONLY HE could fix what was wrong in America. I mean, even a genius (defined as: anyone that can tell the difference between an elephant and an alligator) would surely realize that stripping people of their health insurance during a pandemic will destroy his chances of being reelected, right???

  345. [345] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    332

    Her departure would go a LONG ways into making Weigantia a fun place to be again..

    A place where you troll the group while your enablers ignore your shit, and you whine like an effing toddler if anyone says a peep in your general direction and gives it right back at you? I am sure you would love that.

    Give her a penalty time out for a week.. See how awesome things would be without her...

    I got a better idea... stick it where the sun don't shine. Why don't we give you a penalty time out and see how things are without you?

  346. [346] 
    Michale wrote:

    I got a better idea... stick it where the sun don't shine. Why don't we give you a penalty time out and see how things are without you?

    We have already seen that..

    You were STILL here attacking DH with your sick and pathetic personal attacks.

    Face the facts, cunt.. You are not welcome here.. Sure, you have fellow dirt bags who sing your praises, but you bring nothing but strife and mud-slinging and gross personal attacks to Weigantia..

    It's easy to prove.. Voluntarily cease all personal attacks and name-calling against anyone here in Weigantia for 10 days..

    You can't do it..

    Yer a troll, pure and simple.. You can't help but make personal attacks on people...

    It's totally beyond yer limited capabilities..

    Prove me wrong, cunt...

    You know you will lose...

  347. [347] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [61]

    Kick wrote:

    EM

    It's you against the world, Michale. :)

    Mike is just here to troll others, EM.

    Noun, verb "ya'all."
    Noun, verb "hysterical."
    Noun, verb "hate and bigotry."

    Boring, repetitive dearth of ideas and knee-jerk constant trolling with little of anything not cut and paste or lather, rinse, repeat...

    fat*troll is simply here to get his jollies by annoying people. Sad, when one thinks of it -- I just don't get the appeal. he keeps ramping up the outrageousness and insults until someone bites.

    Elizabeth, I know you're the Kumbaya Board Mother here and I "get" what you're trying to do but you cannot reach someone who has nothing to add but great distraction and discord. So Elizabeth, don't acknowledge fat*troll because you're wasting everybody's time and allowing him to poison the thread, hello?

    As for the rest of my Weigantian peeps, fat*troll will NEVER reply to reality, logic and even pointing out the folly of so much that he posts. Remehe best revenge is to completely and consistently ignore him-- no exceptions!

    I think fat*troll's bravado about Cheetogod's microscopic chances in November/40% of the black voters etc is pure fantasy. We all know he'll disappear once the results are in -- no way he'll show his face. So he's wringing what "pleasure" that he can while it's not yet FACTUAL that the Dems could run a tuna sandwich against Cheetogod and still win. That's why he chickened out on any black vote wagering (for a good CW Cause, I might add.) John M fat*troll's lame excuses are meant to annoy.

    So just let the mo'fo' do his thing. Remember, if he can't get any of us to engage it will drive him bonkers! You won't believe how increasingly "low road" he'll go to get someone to pay attention.

    "It's an exercise in self control

    No matter what DONT FEED THE TROLL!"

  348. [348] 
    Michale wrote:

    GT,

    Wow! Been awhile since I have seen this level of cuntiness (as they would say in the U.K.)

    It's unfortunate that the discussion has revolved around of Mike Hunt.

    I know, right!!?? Vick talks about her cunt ALL the time now...

    By the bi, thanks for the hints on my car issue.. We got real lucky and the EMP stopped at the battery... Appears to have blown the CRUISE CONTROL system as well, but hopefully that's just a fuse issue.. Car is running like a champ again..

    Thanx again....

  349. [349] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    335

    Clearly, Mike believes he is the victim... so, clearly, that makes Mike delusional.

    Personal attacks and personal name-calling should be outlawed..

    However, you will continue to troll the group with your standard operational bullspew... we know... been there, done that.

    Definitely extortion and oppo research on commenters should be outlawed.. That should go without saying.. It's a sad commentary on Weigantia that it has to be said..

    You're delusional.

    And DEFINITELY personal attacks on family members should be outlawed. Again, sad commentary that it has to be specified..

    Good luck with that on your part. You troll the entire group and deny the doing of it. Meanwhile, we're all supposed to just ignore your standard operational bullshit.

    I would completely and utterly agree and abide by these rules..

    You trolling the group as a whole is not something you'll stop doing. It's your MO. Everyone knows this, obviously.

    But I bet you 20,000 quatloos that Vick would oppose them..

    Let's talk about politics. I'm not politics! This group is not a whipping post, and you're not free to insult this group as a whole. Count me in.

    Good luck! You'll need it, Mike.

    She can't survive without her ability to attack other commenters and commenters' family with gross personal attacks..

    You're delusional, and your standard operation projection is so precious. *laughs*

  350. [350] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [347]

    REMEMBER our best revenge is to completely and consistently ignore him-- no exceptions!

  351. [351] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    336

    But I am glad you agree that no sane patriotic American is going to vote for the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party..

    Couldn't go one comment box without this shit.

    Thanx Russ.. Yer a mensch.. :D

    And the name calling. Yes, I know what it means, but it's still name calling that is offensive to a lot of people, but you know that, of course.

  352. [352] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    (Cue fat*troll to start calling me awful names blah blah blah)
    #SSDD

  353. [353] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Ah, shoot!

    I forgot -- "it's a call for Mike Hunt."

  354. [354] 
    Michale wrote:

    REMEMBER our best revenge is to completely and consistently ignore him-- no exceptions!

    WOW.. It only took ONE MINUTE for you to completely and utterly negate your own pathetic advice.

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Well, hell.. Now MC is talking about Vick's cunt...

    I guess everyone gets a turn at Vick's cunt, eh?

  355. [355] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, what about it, Cunt??

    You willing to wager you can't refrain from personal attacks and name-calling for 10 days??

    Com'on cunt... Show me I am wrong.. Show me you can actually contribute around here besides just being a total luser...

  356. [356] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, get it all out of your systems now, before the festivities begin ...

  357. [357] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Your attacks on my family are wide-spread and well documented.. In this thread alone there are dozens of attacks on my family..

    My family includes my wife, my children and my grand-children.. There has also been specific attacks against my children specifically.. Again, this is well-documented..

    I’m sorry, but didn’t you recently threaten to file a false police report with the department my husband works for claiming that he had given out your personal information and exposed your criminal history simply because I had reposted your own words that showed you to be a liar???

    And wasn’t it you who attacked our relationship, demeaning his years of public service in law enforcement, and attacking us both personally simply because you could not defend your statement that guns were all that was needed to keep your family safe when he asked if that were true, why did he have to wear Kevlar everyday for work???

    You told us all how you had your lower ribs removed so it would be easier to shove your head further up your own ass... we pity your family too much to attack them!

  358. [358] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    337

    Cunt,

    which one of the Mike Hunt family are you referring to here? <--- rhetorical question... I don't care

    Your attacks on my family are wide-spread and well documented.. In this thread alone there are dozens of attacks on my family..

    Then you're their attacker, Mike Hunt.

    My family includes my wife, my children and my grand-children.. There has also been specific attacks against my children specifically.. Again, this is well-documented..

    You are so full of yourself, and you're delusional. No one has "attacked" your family unless you concede you have "attacked" them.

    You have been proven to be a liar...

    You are an admitted liar, a confessed ground-pounding knuckle dragging thingy, and fat and uneducated by your own admission, and you are obviously a troll who believes everyone is a troll except yourself.

    DISCLAIMER: The above list is in no way meant to be an exhaustive list of your confessions.

    Your time here is short.. Get used to that..

    You are threatening me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  359. [359] 
    Kick wrote:

    Russ
    344

    Reminder: We are just a little over a week away from Trump unveiling his new healthcare package that will completely replace the need for ObamaCare (the ACA)!

    August 4th... yes, indeed. I did not forget, but you remember I warned you about that "two week" repeated lie thingy.

    Trump promised us he would roll it out by August 4!

    He did promise.

    It is odd that no one in Congress from either party have been included in its creation, but Trump did say that ONLY HE could fix what was wrong in America. I mean, even a genius (defined as: anyone that can tell the difference between an elephant and an alligator) would surely realize that stripping people of their health insurance during a pandemic will destroy his chances of being reelected, right???

    Well, mister, I have five words for you about that:

    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV. ;)

  360. [360] 
    goode trickle wrote:

    Given the word of the day, this seems like a great suggestion for you Sunday music thingy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOJbBBSe4oI

  361. [361] 
    Michale wrote:

    Cunt's afraid to accept the challenge..

    She knows she will get her ass kicked up one side of Weigantia and down the other..

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Which simply proves SHE is the problem here in Weigantia..

    Get rid of her and Weigantia will be fun again.. :D

  362. [362] 
    Michale wrote:

    I mean, we all should have seen it coming..

    The cunt admitted it..

    The ONLY reason she came to Weigantia was for the name-calling contest..

    That should have been our first clue as to what the cunt is all about... All she is here for are personal attacks and name-calling..

    She admitted it herself..

  363. [363] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Well it appears my attempt to raise the level of discussion with the booger comment has failed.

    Isn't there some way to snatch this from the cunts?

  364. [364] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's perfectly clear now..

    The person who refuses to agree to a moratorium on personal attacks and name-calling is the person that is the problem here in Weigantia..

    The logic is impeccable and flawless...

  365. [365] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well it appears my attempt to raise the level of discussion with the booger comment has failed.

    Isn't there some way to snatch this from the cunts?

    I dunno.. As the person who is always going on and on about her cunt..

  366. [366] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    346

    We have already seen that..

    You were STILL here attacking DH with your sick and pathetic personal attacks.

    Well, you caught me. I got this thing about trolls who do repetitive and trolling trolling. Dang, is it that obvious!? And here I thought I had been able to hide it. /sarcasm off

    Face the facts, cunt.. You are not welcome here..

    Setting aside your incessant constant chatter and whining about the Mike Hunt family, you're not saying you wish me gone, are you!? Why... I hadn't gotten that impression at all from you. Not even after you bragged about how many people you had run off from this forum and how I'd be the next one to go. Not even after you came back after one of your pissy fits and returned with promulgated rules you wished to enact upon the entire group. I just never got the impression that running people off is what you do here!? Who knew!? /sarcasm off

    Sure, you have fellow dirt bags who sing your praises, but you bring nothing but strife and mud-slinging and gross personal attacks to Weigantia..

    Your projection is delicious, trolling troll. Please cry more in Trumpian fashion as if you're the victim. Poor Donald. Poor Mike.

    It's easy to prove.. Voluntarily cease all personal attacks and name-calling against anyone here in Weigantia for 10 days..

    You can't do it..

    You have no effing idea what I can do... do you? No, you don't know a dang thing.

    Yer a troll, pure and simple.. You can't help but make personal attacks on people...

    I'm starting to think you don't like the term troll. Oh, well. Deal with it!

    It's totally beyond yer limited capabilities..

    And your projection is scrumdillyumptious.

    Prove me wrong, cunt...

    Mike, stay focused. Either talk to the Mike Hunt family or talk to me. You can't have it both ways.

    You know you will lose...

    You have no idea what I know, Mike Hunt, so "be best" and realize that this too applies to everyone here to whom you routinely put words in their mouths with that trolling bullshit of yours. Deal with it!

  367. [367] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Let Michale tell us, in his own words, the real reason he is here...

    10/26/19
    Actually I have never commented or relayed my opinions on President Trump's conflict of interest..

    I simply point out ya'all's hypocrisy on the issue and prove beyond any doubt that any "conflict of interest" you see in President Trump's et al dealings is SOLELY based on Party slavery rather than any REAL problem with the alleged conflict of interest..

    As I have said, I have built a pretty awesome cottage industry at pointing out ya'all's hypocrisy and ya'all's enslavement (NEN) by Party dogma...

    So Michale admits that he does not believe what he posts, he’s simply here to troll!

  368. [368] 
    Michale wrote:

    So Michale admits that he does not believe what he posts, he’s simply here to troll!

    It has been established here in Weigantia that, unless you provide CONTEXT, then the quote is not what you make it out to be..

    Thanx, JL.. :D

    Since you provide no context (the fact that in THAT specific instance I wasn't relaying my opinion on President Trump's alleged conflict of interest) then basically, according to JL's logic (which I conditionally agree with) that makes your comment to be totally full of shit..

    Nice try, Russ..

    You lose.. AGAIN...

  369. [369] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I would like to wish all of my American friends well in getting your epidemic under control.

    I'm afraid that you're going to need some luck with that because the guy who is in charge of testing says that wearing a mask is more important than contact tracing.

    So, good luck!

  370. [370] 
    Michale wrote:

    But, it's interesting..

    I have provided Vick with a foolproof and guaranteed way to PROVE who is the problem here.

    A moratorium on personal attack and name-calling against and amongst Weigantians..

    She refuses..

    Ergo, this proves beyond ANY doubt that she is the one who is the problem here..

    "These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
    -Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

    I win.. The cunt loses... :D AGAIN

  371. [371] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And, I was just thinking, watching the Blue Jays as they tear my hair out, that isn't it a little weird to have piped in crowd noise tamp up and down depending on the play when there is no one in the seats?

  372. [372] 
    Kick wrote:

    Russ
    357

    You told us all how you had your lower ribs removed so it would be easier to shove your head further up your own ass... we pity your family too much to attack them!

    I know, right!?

    Yes, sir. That was indeed our Mike Hunt:

    [20] Michale wrote:

    FPC

    This just cracks me up!!

    "And based on the background check that was run on him, if he ever was a LEO it is unlikely that he could have been one for long given his record."

    Russ has gotten his ass kicked so many times in this forum he had to run a "background" check on me!!!

    I mean, honestly... WHAT KIND OF TOTAL AND COMPLETE LUSER DOES A BACKGROUND CHECK ON A DEBATE OPPONENT!!!????

    BBBBBBBBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I have so gotten into Russ's head that he has to take it into real life.. :D

    And, of course, I STILL kick his ass every day and twice on Sunday! :D

    That totally cracks me up that I am so far into his head, he has to run a background check.. I am sure he got his husband to run the check... Which is six different kinds of illegal..

    I might have to file a complaint with the PD that Russ's husband works for.. Shouldn't be too difficult to ascertain which Department he works for.. Russ has left plenty of clues..

    Yep.. I think a complaint is definitely warranted...

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/06/18/trumps-very-bad-week/#comment-161280

    *
    But, Russ, you mustn't be too hard the fake cop because -- get this, Russ -- he is "the victim" around here.

    I know, right!? I haven't stopped laughing yet either! :)

  373. [373] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Kick,

    Just wanted to say, Howdy! Hope you are well...Devon’s hooked on watching Hamilton (OK, we both are) so I am outta here! Big Hugs!

    -Russ

  374. [374] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL, Liz...

    Do you support me in this moratorium on name-calling and personal attacks amongst Weigantians???

  375. [375] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    361

    Cunt's afraid to accept the challenge..

    I was unaware the Mike Hunt family of "players" was involved in any challenge. Which one is it this time? I'll bet Bashi knows.

    She knows she will get her ass kicked up one side of Weigantia and down the other..

    You have no idea what I know about your alley.

    Which simply proves SHE is the problem here in Weigantia..

    You are nothing if not "simple," Mike Hunt!

    Get rid of her and Weigantia will be fun again.. :D

    Who do you think you're fooling? <--- rhetorical question

  376. [376] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, the cunt is afraid to accept the challenge..

    Afraid because it will PROVE beyond ANY doubt that she is the problem here and not I...

    BWWWAAAAWWWKKKKK BWWAAAAAWWWWKKKKKK

    Chicken shit cunt..

  377. [377] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    362

    I mean, we all should have seen it coming..

    The cunt admitted it..

    You cannot stop prattling on and on about the Mike Hunt family. You got issues.

    The ONLY reason she came to Weigantia was for the name-calling contest..

    Take it up with the author. Also, you are undercutting your own pathetic arguments, Mike Hunt!

    That should have been our first clue as to what the cunt is all about... All she is here for are personal attacks and name-calling..

    Take it up with the author of the blog, and leave the Mike Hunt family out of the discussion; Russ is right... they have our pity.

  378. [378] 
    Kick wrote:

    ^^^^^ EDIT ^^^^
    377

    I mean, we all should have seen it coming..

    The cunt admitted it..

    You cannot stop prattling on and on about the Mike Hunt family. You got issues!

  379. [379] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    369

    I would like to wish all of my American friends well in getting your epidemic under control.

    Do we not qualify as a pandemic!? Alert the fake news.

    I'm afraid that you're going to need some luck with that because the guy who is in charge of testing says that wearing a mask is more important than contact tracing.

    What a wanker! Neither of the steps can be omitted if the Trumpian morons ever wish to get this pandemic under control. That's positively crazy... particularly when the Moron In Chief keeps describing how he wears the mask over his eyes like the Lone Ranger.

    So, good luck!

    Thank you. We need more than luck, though. :)

  380. [380] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the cunt, STILL afraid to accept the moratorium on personal attacks and name-calling, STILL goes on and on about her cunt...

    Her constant advertising of her cunt-for-money is really tiresome.. She just prattles on and on about her cunt

    Com'on Vick.. PROVE you are not just hear for personal attacks and name-calling..

    Are you afraid you'll prove me dead on ballz accurate??

    Of course you are...

    Cowardly cunt...

  381. [381] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mike
    370

    I have provided Vick with a foolproof and guaranteed way to PROVE who is the problem here.

    You keep forgetting this blog is archived, and you're the biggest liar on the entire forum.

    A moratorium on personal attack and name-calling against and amongst Weigantians..

    She refuses..

    Like I said; you're the biggest liar. That's not name calling; that's just a fact.

    Ergo, this proves beyond ANY doubt that she is the one who is the problem here..

    Archives.

    "These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
    -Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

    Same lame repetitive bullshit.

    I win.. The cunt loses... :D AGAIN

    But enough about the Mike Hunt family!

  382. [382] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    371

    And, I was just thinking, watching the Blue Jays as they tear my hair out, that isn't it a little weird to have piped in crowd noise tamp up and down depending on the play when there is no one in the seats?

    Have you seen the dogs in the seats? Sitting in their owners' laps? They are conveniently located in the Petco section... isn't that fortuitous!?

  383. [383] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Kick,

    I think you better start focusing on your own epidemic and let the rest of us out in the world worry about the pandemic. Get it?

  384. [384] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Thank God that Trump isn't in charge of the Pandemic I or we would all be in deep you know what.

  385. [385] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It takes Americans a week to get a test result and contact tracing doesn't matter as long as you wear your mask.

    O.M.G.

  386. [386] 
    Michale wrote:

    I think you better start focusing on your own epidemic and let the rest of us out in the world worry about the pandemic. Get it?

    I know, right!!??

    I offered a perfect way to establish once and for all who is actually the problem here..

    By Vick's refusal to a moratorium on all personal attacks and name-calling against Weigantians, she proves conclusively and unequivocally, that SHE is the problem here..

    The logic is infallible and unquestionable..

    Vick is the problem here..

  387. [387] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    You're right, Kick, you need more than luck.

  388. [388] 
    Kick wrote:

    Russ
    373

    Just wanted to say, Howdy! Hope you are well...Devon’s hooked on watching Hamilton (OK, we both are) so I am outta here! Big Hugs!

    Oh, it's awesome! Are we watching tonight? I could enjoy that myself. Jonathan Groff is my personal favorite because that song!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You say
    The price of my love's not a price that you're willing to pay
    You cry
    In your tea which you hurl in the sea when you see me go by
    Why so sad?
    Remember we made an arrangement when you went away
    Now you're making me mad
    Remember, despite our estrangement, I'm your man

    You'll be back, soon you'll see
    You'll remember you belong to me
    You'll be back, time will tell
    You'll remember that I served you well
    Oceans rise, empires fall
    We have seen each other through it all
    And when push comes to shove
    I will send a fully armed battalion to remind you of my love!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    All my love, right back at you both. You keep yourselves well...
    that's an order. We are all peas, you know. XOXOXO

    - Kick

  389. [389] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I hope you two are almost done - you better not rain on my parade! :)

  390. [390] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    383

    I think you better start focusing on your own epidemic and let the rest of us out in the world worry about the pandemic. Get it?

    Yes, I get it. Additionally, I'm also doing what I can do regarding changing that terminal condition, and if all goes well, the White House will be occupied by a good start on an improvement.

    I promised you Texas before, and I delivered. I can't make the same promise in the General, but I promise I won't miss the forest for the trees. I'm on it! :)

  391. [391] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Excellent! :)

  392. [392] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    385

    It takes Americans a week to get a test result and contact tracing doesn't matter as long as you wear your mask.

    O.M.G.

    Yes, ma'am. You got that right.

  393. [393] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    I know words and I have the best words, but I’m unclear about exactly which anti-woman hate speech words are OK and which are over the line. It all seems so arbitrary as if Larry David makes The Rules. Can one use the P word if it’s hyphenated? For example: P word-grabber. It kind of loses its punch if you have to say “P word”. What other body part slurs are off limits? I want to observe The Rules. So, rather than color outside the lines, I’ve chosen a musical selection from 1977.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTVDHnwlz5k

  394. [394] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    389

    I hope you two are almost done - you better not rain on my parade! :)

    I would not do that to you...

    Daniel Craig...
    Cas_ino Royale

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwdhhZGhVZ8

    Somebody walks wet from the water. ;)

  395. [395] 
    Michale wrote:

    I hope you two are almost done - you better not rain on my parade! :)

    If she stops, then I am done.. If she doesn't..

    Well, that's on her..

  396. [396] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    393

    And JFC brings it! Oh, man... the studio version! :)

  397. [397] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Nice, JFC, that beats what's been going on around here for the last too many hours.

    So you got it off to a great start!

    Now, everyone, stand up for the Canadian national anthem. Ahem.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLgIv75Xr4M&list=RDoKoqfALv6Xg&index=2

  398. [398] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    oops ...wrong link but, a very nice song, nevertheless ...

    And, now,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKoqfALv6Xg&list=RDoKoqfALv6Xg&index=1

  399. [399] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Do you have a favourite tune from 1977?

  400. [400] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Okay, we're having some technical issues tonight. Not sure I can fix it but, I'll try. :)

  401. [401] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    397

    Now, everyone, stand up for the Canadian national anthem. Ahem.

    Video by Die Sinister! Nice video, though... didn't seem the least bit sinister to me. Twin babies. Two dads.

    Nice song. :)

  402. [402] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    That wasn't the unofficial Canadian national anthem, though. :(

  403. [403] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yeah, that night to remember video will often bring a tear or two to my eyes ... :)

  404. [404] 
    Kick wrote:
  405. [405] 
    Kick wrote:

    Do Over of [404]! Goobed it up.

    1977

    Electric Light Orchestra - Mr. Blue Sky

  406. [406] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    1977 My Own Way To Rock

    Burton Cummings, here in the eighties with one of his old bands, The Guess Who ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxdAH2lkdyg

  407. [407] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I love ELO!

  408. [408] 
    Kick wrote:

    1977 My Own Way To Rock

    Good stuff.

    Ah, the '70s where so many people had the same hair!

  409. [409] 
    Kick wrote:

    Okay, EM...

    This one is especially for you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJvv4KtzUVw

    Canada (You're a Lifetime Journey)

  410. [410] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Heh.

    Don't laugh but whenever Bon Jovi came on the TV when I was watching some music show or other in the eighties, I'd turn the station 'cause I hated all that hair! I missed out on good songs because of that.

    Now, I can watch those old Bon Jovi videos all day long. :)

    Actually, I'm getting less and less conservative with each passing day when it comes to musical tastes and everything else.

  411. [411] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Canada ...

    Thanks for that, Kick!

    A little too much snow and ice but, what a country. :)

  412. [412] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Kick,

    I have a musical question for you.

    Of all the PRiSM tunes, there is one that stands out as sounding different from all of the others. Maybe you can tell my why.

    I'm thinking it has something to do with being written in an unusual key or has it to do with sharp vs minor or major or ... I don't know. I just know there is something very different about the sound of it.

    Take a listen ...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsX9GgapYgs

  413. [413] 
    Kick wrote:

    Canada (Canada)
    My Canada (mon Canada)
    You’re a lifetime journey for the traveler (le voyageur)

    Canada (Canada)
    My Canada (mon Canada)
    You’re a lifeline of wonder on this planet Earth (planète terre)

    Canada
    You are far too vast and beautiful for words to ever really tell
    Canada
    Ten thousand dawns and sunsets I could see
    And still not know you well

    J’ai suivi la trace de tes oiseaux de neiges dans les forêts
    J’atteins peu à peu ton coeur et je vois comme si
    Comme si comme l’enfant

    Translation:

    I followed the trace of your snowbirds in the forests
    I slowly reach your heart and I see as a child

    Canada (Canada)
    My Canada (mon Canada)
    Aboutissement d’un rêve pour tous les voyageurs

    Fulfillment of a dream for all travelers

    Canada (Canada)
    My Canada (mon Canada)
    Sur ta ligne de vie se tracent les miracles de la terre

    On your lifeline the miracles of the earth are traced

    Canada comme une odyssée à travers les temps
    Tu es la fleur et la semence

    Canada like an odyssey through times
    You are the flower and the seed

    Canada
    Tes montagnes, tes villes et tes mers
    Sont tout ce que j’aime

    Your mountains your cities and your seas
    Are all that I love

    People from around the world have settled in your land
    For their heritage and Canada, they stand
    Side by side and hand in hand

    Canada (Canada)
    My Canada (mon Canada)
    You’re a lifeline of wonder on this planet Earth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJvv4KtzUVw

  414. [414] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    410

    Actually, I'm getting less and less conservative with each passing day when it comes to musical tastes and everything else.

    Heh. Well, I got really good new for you too; that's happening all over your neighbors to the south! If you get my drift. ;)

  415. [415] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    412

    I have a musical question for you.

    Of all the PRiSM tunes, there is one that stands out as sounding different from all of the others. Maybe you can tell my why.

    Okay then... be right back after I listen. :)

  416. [416] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    If you get my drift. ;)

    And, I do!

  417. [417] 
    Kick wrote:

    Am G C F C Am C G E Am G F Am G F Am G F E C G Am D G E Am G F Am G F Am G F E F G Am A# E C Cm C Cm C Am Dm Am D G E Am G F Am G F Am G F Am G F E Am G F Am G F E C

  418. [418] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    What? I mean, why ...? Well, sorry I asked. :)

  419. [419] 
    Kick wrote:

    It's the harmonies and the chord changes compared to their other songs. Less production and more soul, I think.

    It's a really good song.

  420. [420] 
    Kick wrote:

    You asked about sharp versus minor. Those are the chords of the song. I don't hear a whole lot of sharp in there. It's a lot of A minor.

  421. [421] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I see. Yes, it is one of those sort of haunting harmonies.

    So, is it just the two of us here tonight, d'ya think, aside from JFC getting it started?

    Maybe it's just too early ...

  422. [422] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    So, the A minor and less sharps are unusual?

  423. [423] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    418

    What? I mean, why ...? Well, sorry I asked. :)

    Ooops. Sorry, it was more arranged, but you know the platform removes spacing! Those are the chord changes.

    Good song. :)

  424. [424] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    in 1977 i was 2 years old. but damn, what a year!

    https://youtu.be/LH-Oto702C4

  425. [425] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [102]

    Elizabeth Miller wrote:


    Joshua,

    your use of "fucking bitch" after repeated warnings about inappropriate use of colorful language is one thing. but cake? now that's going too far!!!

    Indeed!

    Yeah, Joshua you fucking bitch leave cake out if it ;)

  426. [426] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Get lost, MtnCaddy!

  427. [427] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua, 1977 was a very, very good year.

    What was your first concert?

  428. [428] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [125]

    Don Harris wrote:


    On the subject of bitches...

    Q: What is the difference between a slut and a bitch?

    A: A slut will sleep with anyone. A bitch will sleep with anyone but you.

    Seriously Comrade Don, if you're the one that invented this joke I'll get some of my Deep State buddies to kidnap you, break all your fingers and make you go into stand-up comedy!

  429. [429] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Get the heck outta here!

  430. [430] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    or, post a tune!

  431. [431] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    421

    I see. Yes, it is one of those sort of haunting harmonies.

    Just different from the other songs you've played from the same band... much less produced and more instrumental and vocal, less bounce... more flow and those harmonies.

    And: No jets taking off! ;)

    Maybe it's just too early ...

    JL will show, he always does.

    I was song searching! :)

  432. [432] 
    Kick wrote:

    Holy moly!

    Look what happened while I was song searching!
    Now I'm behind playing catchup. :)

  433. [433] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Okay, I will apologize in advance for posting so many PRiSM songs tonight but, they had so many good ones from 1977, off their debut album entitled, PRiSM - check out the album cover!

    This is one of my all-time Prism favourites, was listening to this album today, poolside, without the pool ...

    It's Over!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g1231eTbpM

  434. [434] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Holy moly! Look what happened while I was song searching! Now I'm behind playing catchup. :)

    Heh.

    Joshua is here! With Queen!

  435. [435] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    424

    in 1977 i was 2 years old. but damn, what a year!

    Okay, my favorite band of all time. Got to meet them at a local club in Dallas for all of 1 minute. It was insane.

  436. [436] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    We Will Rock You - We Are the Champions, Queen

    Oh, that's a great song. Now it reminds of the Raptors NBA champs going for a repeat in the strange 2020 season!

  437. [437] 
    Kick wrote:
  438. [438] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [239]

    Kick wrote:


    MtnCaddy
    210

    Thank you very much -- I'll be here all week, Ladies and Gentlemen.

    Oh, I quite agree too, but rather than a week, stay forever

    Not to worry M'Lady. I ain't going nowhere. Once Joe's in office and Trump is in "no bail custody" (SDNY - woot!) we've got a lot of heavy lifting to ensure the Democratic Party keeps swinging Left.

  439. [439] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Kick,

    Somebody walks wet from the water. ;)

    Oh, yeah baby, that right there is my favourite Bond. Ooooo-wheeee!

  440. [440] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    a lot of Am, 1977... dust in the wind??? but that progression doesn't fit.

  441. [441] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Kick wrote:
    MtnCaddy
    214

    Spot on! It reminds me of the NOAA Director being forced to include Alabama to cover Cheetogod's butt during Sharpie-gate.

    Did somebody say Sharpie? I got something for you:

    Trump Sharpie Memes Show How He Could Solve All His Problems With Pen

    And look ^^^^^ I did that thing you taught me. We have unlimited links. Heh. ;)

    Yay. I didn't know we weren't supposed to have plural links, but there it is. Oh BTW when I called Joshua a fucking bitch that was a...that was a...what's the word?

    JOKE

    Lighten up, Canada

  442. [442] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller wrote:
    436

    We Will Rock You - We Are the Champions, Queen

    Yes! Two great songs

    We Will Rock You........... written by Brian May
    We Are the Champions... written by Freddie Mercury

  443. [443] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @caddy,

    did you not get the memo?

    JL

  444. [444] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy

    Okay, I'm posting a song on MtnCaddy's behalf. It is a song that's been quoted around here a time or two:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBtPf7FOoM

    Killer Queen

  445. [445] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    440

    a lot of Am, 1977... dust in the wind??? but that progression doesn't fit.

    It's this from EM:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsX9GgapYgs

  446. [446] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    441

    Okay. Need to post another song for you. I know you're on a cell phone. Name the song. I'll post it.

    Name that tune: ________________________________ :)

  447. [447] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Are you going to play Bohemian Rhapsody? I think that is my all-time favourite Queen song ...

  448. [448] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    that didn't release as a single until a couple years later

  449. [449] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    scratch that, it was a couple years earlier not later. year of my birth.

  450. [450] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua,

    They don't all have to be from 1977.

    You're Me Reason was released in 1978. It's off the See Forever Eyes album, Prism's second of four.

  451. [451] 
    Kick wrote:

    Freddie Mercury's masterpiece?

    Tied for my favorite with "Somebody to Love" (already posted above)

    Bohemian Rhapsody

    1.1 billion plus views!

  452. [452] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    You're My Reason - it's a great little song!

  453. [453] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    1.1 billion!? Wow.

  454. [454] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    448

    that didn't release as a single until a couple years later

    Halloween 1975, to be exact. :)

  455. [455] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i like the theme though.

    Well, your writing is damn good. It's just a shame you missed out on rock and roll.

    I did?

    Oh yeah. It's over.

    Over?

    Over. You got here just in time for the death rattle, the last gasp, the last grope.

    Well. At least I'm here for that.

    ~almost famous

  456. [456] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [184]

    James T Canuck wrote:

    Call to order...

    I object to the gratuitous use of the word 'cunt'.

    Not really.

    Carry on...

    LL&P

    Excellent, Comrade, er, Canuck! Dunno about Canadian politics but Politics in the States has forever been pretty bare knuckled.

    May I offer you "Honorary U.S. Citizen" status? Once in, you'll slowly find yourself drifting closer and closer to the Dark Side

    BWAHAHAHAHA!

    We can take up a collection to pay your way through Canadian Politenessman Re-education Camp." I heard it's mandatory at the high school level.

  457. [457] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Okay, here is my political song for the evening by ... Rush

    It's Closer to the Heart, off their 1977 album, Farewell to Kings:

    And, the men who hold high places must be the ones who start; to mold a new reality, closer to the heart.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyhW2v0NDM0

  458. [458] 
    Kick wrote:

    Okay, I have one last song,
    and this one I'm posting for Russ since he's watching "Hamilton" tonight.

    You'll Be Back... from Hamilton

  459. [459] 
    Kick wrote:

    You're posting about Kings, and I just saw that after posting King George! Heh! :)

  460. [460] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [239]

    Kick wrote:


    MtnCaddy
    210

    Thank you very much -- I'll be here all week, Ladies and Gentlemen.

    Oh, I quite agree too, but rather than a week, stay forever.

    No worries Ma'am. Once Joe is disinfecting the Oval Office and Trump is in jail on "suicide watch" we still have a lot of work to do within the Democratic Party.

    Bernie's/Our Revolution is the only way we can undo the damage that Reaganism ("Just give the rich and even bigger slice of the American Pie -- what could go wrong?) ha done.

  461. [461] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    So, I guess I'll go ahead and post Michale's favourite Barry Manilow song, although I don't know why I should ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRY3aKx8bKg

  462. [462] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    460

    No worries Ma'am. Once Joe is disinfecting the Oval Office and Trump is in jail on "suicide watch" we still have a lot of work to do within the Democratic Party.

    Good.

    Bernie's/Our Revolution is the only way we can undo the damage that Reaganism ("Just give the rich and even bigger slice of the American Pie -- what could go wrong?) ha done.

    And with that nugget, good sir, your song has thusly been chosen:

    The Beatles - Revolution

  463. [463] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I believe that qualifies for best music video of the night!

  464. [464] 
    Kick wrote:

    Which one!?

  465. [465] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Ah, the Beatles, Revolution.

  466. [466] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And, for something a little different from Prism, yet another gem off their debut album,

    Open Soul Surgery

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BYoQiI71jc

  467. [467] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    we're going political now?

    https://youtu.be/luVpsM3YAgw

  468. [468] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Joshua, the songs could always be of a political nature. Just not the comments. :)

  469. [469] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Thanks for posting that, Joshua!

    Best political music video of the evening!

  470. [470] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Wasn't the movie called Biko, too ... I saw it years ago.

  471. [471] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    No, it was Cry Freedom ... I've got it!

  472. [472] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [413]

    Yeah, I finally plowed through all the *Kumbaya* in the preceeding, er, proceedings.

    What beautiful lyrics! Canada is a tad chilly (said the Californian who lives at 7,000 feet and who enjoyed 10 feet of snow last winter) but I've sooo many great memories in Canada...

    Icecream - with a higher milk fat content required by law it was always better than Stateside

    Black flies - a whole grip of them tried to pick me up by my skin at Algonquin Provincial Park

    Christmas Vacation in Sault Ste. Marie - Nordic skiing 30 km per day...pool...sauna...run outside and jump into a snowbank. Rince and repeat. Aaaand...don't forget that wonderful Canuck beer along with above. WAY better than the swill they sold in the States up until 20 years ago

    Trading Hershey bars for killer home baked bread, roadside in Nova Scotia

    Makes me wanna get my but back to Ontario. The flies will undoubtedly be larger and smarter. Do they still have CNE? Saw the newly defected from Mother Russia Mikhail Baryshnikov make his North American debut at the CNE Amphitheater!

  473. [473] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [417] Kick wrote:

    Am G C F C Am C G E Am G F Am G F Am G F E C G Am D G E Am G F Am G F Am G F E F G Am A# E C Cm C Cm C Am Dm Am D G E Am G F Am G F Am G F Am G F E Am G F Am G F E C

    Nice job on the chord progressions, said the Countri-Cali bassist

  474. [474] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    429] Elizabeth Miller wrote:


    Get the heck outta here!

    [430] Elizabeth Miller wrote:


    or, post a tune!

    Yes, Board Mother...

    Speaking of "mothers" this is IMO the best guitarist who will EVER LIVE. Bloke by the name of Steve Vai.

  475. [475] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i only see a few modulations. the main key of the song is C major, but the progression starts on the 6 (or 1 of the relative minor), so that probably makes it a bit less upbeat and more sad or soulful. see the chart for where the modlulations go - basically the further away it is on the wheel, the bigger the musical change.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/c2/f1/83c2f10bde522977abc0c58700d2b6a8.png

  476. [476] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    What song are you talking about?

  477. [477] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I wish I could understand about modulations and the wheel ... :(

  478. [478] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    basically match the letters of the chords with the words of the song, and then look at where on the wheel each chord is.

  479. [479] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I love the song and know it backwards and forwards and every which way and I love singing along with it but, I can't match the words with the letters of the chords, even if my life depended on it.

    All I really wanted to know about You're My Reason is how unusual a melody it is because it sounds unusual to me.

  480. [480] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Sorry Board Mother, but I respond as I plow through the comments and there are bleeping hundreds of them, hello?

    I'm a wanna-be Professional Sports Handicapper (read "Gambler") so I had to finish my research and make my baseball picks first thing (yeah, I picked the Blue Jay's +1.5 runs, and they covered for me - Ohhhh Canada!). You'll be happy to hear that I've gone 5 - 1 thus far (please pray with me that the LA Dodgers and San Francisco Giants don't score more than 8 runs tonight) and I have a sparkling 89% ROI (Return On Investment.) Coupla months hitting even 60% of my wagers and I'ma taking a road trip through Texas (Kick!) and thence to Ontario (Elizabeth!) I'm sure you

    Thence, I saw the heat in our Comments section and I just hadda read them - Kick, ya outta be named Kick Ass the way you infuriated Michale by giving him a taste of his own trollery. I suspect that he might have drunk this time around. Honestly, I do enjoy your work product. Or rather, your play product, as you were clearly playing with his head.

    I am reminded of the Gal I should have married. Terri hailed from T-t-t-Texas (natch) and my life would have been sweeter if'n I had my bleep together *sigh*

  481. [481] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Steven Biko was arrested and beaten and murdered in 1977.

  482. [482] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [480]

    MtnCaddy (not drunk MtnCaddy) wrote...

    Coupla months hitting even 60% of my wagers and I'ma taking a road trip through Texas (Kick!) and thence to Ontario (Elizabeth!) I'm sure you...

    ...quality Ladies are taken (or given, I like to say) but I'd love to meetcha.

  483. [483] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [446]

    Kick wrote,

    MtnCaddy
    441

    Okay. Need to post another song for you. I know you're on a cell phone. Name the song. I'll post it.

    Name that tune:

    I can do a lot of stuff on my cellphone, but...

    You KNOW my personality. I'd love it if you picked out a song for me...if not tonight then next week. Ah ain't going nowhere, Darling.

  484. [484] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [446]

    BTW I like songs with lots of cuss words (Eminem, Tupac, "One Night in Babcock" - Murray Head -- white rap in the 70s.)

  485. [485] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    [342] goode trickle wrote:

    As we used to say to an unpopular stage manager on Sundays as we were heading out the door...

    see
    yoU
    Next
    Tuesday

    I used to work for a guy named Kay (named after the band leader Kay Kyser). Kay was often MIA and had more than his share of people coming around to see him. Very often, the messages left were:

    If
    you
    see
    Kay...

    Somehow, lots of them didn't hear what they'd just said. Others turned a nice shade of green.

  486. [486] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [462]

    That's my Kick! I'm a Tax Practitioner so
    Taxman
    is another fave.

    Speaking of Taxman, if I were King I'd jack the marginal tax rate back up to WW2 era 91%. Not only would that start to hugely address America's unsustainable wealth inequality.

    The slightly modified songs lyrics work well:

    "There's one for you
    And ten for me"

    Do the math, Ladies and Germs. It works out correctly.

  487. [487] 
    goode trickle wrote:

    MV-

    Nice one...
    I had forgotten about that one. It also would have been apropos.

  488. [488] 
    goode trickle wrote:

    Now for the rest of you...

    when it come to Queen i think you are overlooking another great one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ0pwHlf5zA

  489. [489] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And, what about this,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSToKcbWz1k

    Rock 'n Roll Hall of Famers, finally, Rush.

  490. [490] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    Yes, JL; Kansas, of course:

    Dust in the Wind

    Thanks for that.

  491. [491] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    That was for MntCaddy.

  492. [492] 
    goode trickle wrote:

    I would have gone with this one.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOvTmtUFFmo
    But...I don't think it works at the moment.

  493. [493] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    So, did everyone have a good time!?

    :-)

  494. [494] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It worked just fine. :)

  495. [495] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    We just have time for one or two more tunes off that 1977 Prism debut album.

    For a Canadian band out of Vancouver or any band, it was a phenomenal first!

    Here is Vladivostok ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87g5Rckyruk

  496. [496] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And, of course, Take Me To The Kaptin, Prism's climate apocalypse song, from 1977!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjb75geCcMI

  497. [497] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    STS 133 Space Shuttle Discovery's Last Mission:
    Feb 24 -Mar 9, 2011
    Wake-up call on Day 11 (March 6, 2011) - chosen by NASA ... Spaceship Superstar:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSyYqD9v_wo

  498. [498] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, that was fun!

  499. [499] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Awwww, c'mon, people...

  500. [500] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Just a couple more comments and we'll hit 500! I don't recall breaking 500 during my time in Weigantia.

  501. [501] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    I guess I'll remember this time haha!

    Signed-
    Cracking himself up on the Left Coast

  502. [502] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Where did everyone go?

  503. [503] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC,

    BTW I like songs with lots of cuss words (Eminem, Tupac, "One Night in Babcock" - Murray Head -- white rap in the 70s.)

    Murray Head did ONE NIGHT IN BANGKOK..

    The city, not the furniture store.. :D

  504. [504] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    472

    Wow. Sounds like fun. I'm travelling "North North" after the pandemic. First I'll go North to NYC; then I'll go North North just to get ice cream. :)

  505. [505] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    473

    Nice job on the chord progressions, said the Countri-Cali bassist

    A bassist... I got a song for you next week.

  506. [506] 
    Michale wrote:

    Portland cops find bag with rifle magazines, Molotov cocktails near protest site, another chaotic night

    Rifle ammunition, Molotov cocktails found by Portland police responding to shooting

    Sunday marked the 60th consecutive night of protests in Portland since George Floyd's death.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/gunfire-reported-near-portland-protest-site-2-arrested-1-injured

    Again, the question has to be asked since no one has been able to answer it logically and rationally..

    Do ya'all REALLY expect that sane patriotic Americans will vote for THAT ^^^^^

    It's delusional in the extreme to believe that ANY sane patriotic American will vote for the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party of the here and now..

    There is not a SINGLE platform of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party that Americans support..

  507. [507] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    very few people actually believe that to be an issue on the ballot, no matter how desperately donald might want them to.

    the biggest issue on the ballot is public health, i.e. coronavirus response. as long as people's relatives keep dying from the pandemic, there's not a whole lot else that's going to drive people's voting behavior in any other diretion.

    JL

  508. [508] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Over 500 comments? There has got to be at least SOME that are just a little tiny bit repetitive.

    Please try to keep repetitive personal arguments to a minimum. CW has never answered comments when they have surpassed 450.

    Maybe CW should start posting a blank article on Saturday for the weekend battles and Music fest. Then FTP wouldn't end up with so many comments and make it easier for CW to read and/or respond to FTP comments.

  509. [509] 
    Michale wrote:

    very few people actually believe that to be an issue on the ballot, no matter how desperately donald might want them to.

    Any facts to support that claim??

    the biggest issue on the ballot is public health, i.e. coronavirus response. as long as people's relatives keep dying from the pandemic, there's not a whole lot else that's going to drive people's voting behavior in any other diretion.

    The pandemic means very little if one loses their life or their livelyhood or their loved ones to scumbag Democrat murderers...

    I know you desperately want to believe that law and order is NOT upper most in every sane patriotic American's mind..

    But the facts are clear..

  510. [510] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Wow. The latest poll shows that 80% of The American People think that the country is heading in the wrong direction and the orange P word-grabber is the guy driving the bus. He can’t read so he doesn’t obey those street signs on dead end streets. Who knew that Americans would object to winning the race for the most dead bodies from the Trump Plague? So much winning.

    I saw a sign on Easy Street, said "Be Prepared to Stop" – Don Henley

  511. [511] 
    Michale wrote:

    But credit where credit is due..

    At least you attempt to address the issue instead of hiding your head in the sand like everyone else..

    But it's definitely going to be an issue in voting in 99 days..

    And the longer it continues, the bigger issue it will be..

    When Democrat-run cities all start to look like Fallujah, you'll see more and more sane Americans voting President Trump..

  512. [512] 
    Michale wrote:

    Wow. The latest poll shows that 80% of The American People think that the country is heading in the wrong direction and the orange P word-grabber is the guy driving the bus. He can’t read so he doesn’t obey those street signs on dead end streets. Who knew that Americans would object to winning the race for the most dead bodies from the Trump Plague? So much winning.

    How were your polls 4 years ago, JFC??

    And remind me, who won again?? :D

    It's well documented that the ONLY thing that the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter party has going for it are polls.. Polls that have been PROVEN to be, at best, unreliable.. But normally, just flat out wrong..

    Ya'all see the facts in 99 days... :D

  513. [513] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    don harris is concerned that other people's comments are repetitive?

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/58/34/ed/5834edc17b9c0033f47bb24943b1d2a8.gif

  514. [514] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    The pandemic means very little if one loses their life or their livelyhood or their loved ones to [violent protesters]

    how many people per state have died so far due to black lives matter protests?

    answer: less than one.

    covid-19 is a bit more prolific, and not everybody is completely blind.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/pdf/Consolidated-Forecasts-2020-07-20.pdf

  515. [515] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    read the data:

    https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/publication/200616_Jones_Methodology_v3_0.pdf

    in the past 25 years, there has been exactly one death due to antifascist terrorism. that death was the perpetrator himself.

    in the past four months there have been almost 150,000 deaths due to covid.

    which of these issues do you think is more likely to affect people's voting behavior?

    JL

  516. [516] 
    Michale wrote:

    how many people per state have died so far due to black lives matter protests?

    Not factually accurate.. At least a dozen...

    You can believe whatever you wish..

    But the fact remains.. No sane patriotic American is going to vote for turning this country into Fallujah...

    You may dispute it all you wish, but the fact remains..

    As you will see in 99 days..

  517. [517] 
    Michale wrote:

    in the past 25 years, there has been exactly one death due to antifascist terrorism. that death was the perpetrator himself.

    2016 shooting of Dallas police officers
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

    Very easy to prove you wrong..

  518. [518] 
    Michale wrote:

    At least 7 people have been shot and killed in this weekend's anti-police violence protests in the wake of George Floyd's death
    https://www.insider.com/multiple-people-shot-dead-kentucky-iowa-nebraska-indiana-blm-protests-2020-6

    Again.. Easy to prove you wrong..

  519. [519] 
    Michale wrote:

    'Killed a baby:’ 8-year-old girl killed in Atlanta shooting
    https://apnews.com/9148d740c10fcd784867eda74055aaa5

    Shall I continue with the FACTS that prove you wrong??

  520. [520] 
    Michale wrote:

    15 People Died In The Protests And Riots Following George Floyd’s Death. Here’s Who They Are
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/05/15-people-died-protests-riots-george-floyd-death/

    Hell, even my "at least a dozen" estimate was way WAY too low...

  521. [521] 
    Michale wrote:

    The #BlackLivesMatter Kill List: At Least 11 Cops Shot Dead – 9 More Wounded By #BLM Supporters
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/blacklivesmatter-kill-list-least-11-cops-shot-dead-9-wounded-blm-criminals/

    And the list goes on an on and on...

    Would you like to move on to the list of black Americans killed that Black Lies Matter have STATED that they don't care about???

  522. [522] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, of course, there is this Democrat Black Lives Matter scumbag..

    http:sjfm.us/pics/blm.jpg

    You HONESTLY think that sane patriotic Americans don't CARE about any of that???

    Seriously??

  523. [523] 
    Michale wrote:

    Reposted For Clarity

    And, of course, there is this Democrat Black Lives Matter scumbag..

    http://sjfm.us/pics/blm.jpg

    You HONESTLY think that sane patriotic Americans don't CARE about any of that???

    Seriously??

  524. [524] 
    Michale wrote:

    Black Lives Matter AWOL as violence claims hundreds of Black victims
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/9/black-lives-matter-awol-hundreds-blacks-killed-wav/

    Again, the FACTS that Black Lies Matter is just another terrorist group looking for power..

    Like the Democrat Party's KKK of days past..

  525. [525] 
    Michale wrote:

    Young Mother Shot and Killed By Black Lives Matter Supporters After Saying 'All Lives Matter'

    Last week, 24-year-old Jessica Doty Whitaker was shot to death following an argument with Black Lives Matter supporters. According to her family, the BLM supporters shouted “Black lives matter” at her and her group, to which they replied, “All lives matter.”

    After the groups separated, Jessica was shot dead by the BLM supporters. She leaves behind a 3-year-old son.

    “She shouldn’t have lost her life. She’s got a 3-year-old son she loved dearly,” said Jose Ramirez, her fiance, who was involved in the incident.
    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/07/12/young-mother-shot-and-killed-by-black-lives-matter-supporters-after-saying-all-lives-matter-n633837

    Remind me again how "less than one" person has died due to the actions of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party??

    Because I seem to have forgotten what with all the FACTS that prove otherwise...

    You lead a sheltered life my friend.. All snug and safe from the violence and bigotry and hate of your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party..

    To say that all the killing and all the racism and all the bigotry and all the hate coming from your Party will be irrelevant in the coming election??

    Well, that's just ridiculous..

  526. [526] 
    Michale wrote:

    WAR ON POLICE: Over 431 Police Officers Injured or Killed in Recent Far Left Black Lives Matter Protests and Riots
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/431-police-officers-injured-killed-recent-far-left-black-lives-matter-protests-riots/

    Less than one???

    Shirley, you jest...

  527. [527] 
    Michale wrote:

    On Monday June 1, 2020, four police officers were shot in St. Louis City.

    The far left rioters threw gas on police.

    The 7-11 downtown was looted and torched.

    Across town retired Police Captain David Dorn was shot dead while protecting a pawnshop.

    The looters shot Dorn and he bled out while being filmed on Facebook live.
    The killers understood no police would be coming.

    Com'on JL.. I know for a fact you are smarter than this...

    But to claim that there has been ZERO deaths due to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party and their rioting, lawless, looting and killing activities??

    Well, that's simply closing your eyes to the facts and the reality..

  528. [528] 
    Michale wrote:

    Majority of Americans Have 'Unfavorable View' of Black Lives Matter, Say Black Crime Is a Top Concern
    https://www.newsweek.com/black-lives-matter-protests-police-646050

    Not a concern for this election???

    To believe that is to ignore the facts and the reality...

  529. [529] 
    Michale wrote:

    Lemme ask you something, JL..

    If the pandemic is such a big concern for the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party, why is the party supporting all the protests??

    You yourself said how utterly moronic that is..

    If the protests and destroying and looting and cop-killing are more important to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party than the pandemic is, then is it such a stretch to believe that the protests and destroying and looting and cop-killings are more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic..

    The logic is conclusive and unassailable..

  530. [530] 
    Michale wrote:

    Rephrased for clarity..

    If the protests and destroying and looting and cop-killing are more important to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party than the pandemic is, then is it such a stretch to believe that OPPOSING those protests and destroying and looting and cop-killings is more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic..

    The logic is conclusive and unassailable..

  531. [531] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Again.. Easy to prove you wrong..

    only if you don't READ.

    i'll use all-caps just so you know why you haven't disproved anything i wrote:

    1. how many people PER STATE have died so far due to black lives matter protests?

    unless you can name fifty protest-related deaths or we're only counting the "intent" of the original 13 colonies, the answer is still less than one.

    2. in the past 25 years, there has been exactly one death due to ANTIFASCIST TERRORISM. that death was the perpetrator himself.

    i'm not saying the protests are as "perfect" as donald's phone call with ukraine (and if you check back and see you'll note that i think it's dumb to have massive assemblies of people during a pandemic). what i'm saying is that the way you're framing the protests doesn't match the facts on the ground, and the deaths due to the bogeymen you're throwing out are infinitesimal when compared to the deaths caused by covid.

    JL

  532. [532] 
    Michale wrote:

    12 Officers Shot, 5 Killed, At Black Lives Matter Protest in Dallas
    https://archive.thinkprogress.org/12-officers-shot-5-killed-at-black-lives-matter-protest-in-dallas-6150db506e36/

    Again, the idea that there have been ZERO deaths caused by Black Lies Matter supporters is ludicrous..

  533. [533] 
    Kick wrote:

    Okay, full disclosure. I fell asleep so just hour plus playing catchup.

    GT: "Hot Space" !!! Not going to lie: Worst Queen album but some good songs on it. That was one of them. Another, of course: "Under Pressure"

    And then *bam*, you go from "worst" to "first" with: "A Night at the Opera." One of the best albums ever, definitely Queen's penultimate.

    MyVoice: Nice

    MtnCaddy: Potty mouth ;)

    EM: What, no Prism? ;)

    That was fun.

    Apologies, I feel asleep... unintentional dropout...

  534. [534] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now yer just splitting hairs and defining parameters narrowly to fit your agenda..

    What does it matter which state has cops and innocent people killed by Black Lies Matter supporters??

    It matters not one whit..

    And to change the parameter in mid comment, just to fit the agenda.. It's ridiculous.

    Bottom line is this.

    If looting and destroying and killing cops and innocent people is more important to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party than the pandemic is (and the facts clearly show that this is the case)

    Then is it such a far stretch to determine that OPPOSING the looting and destroying and killing cops and innocent people is more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic is..

  535. [535] 
    Kick wrote:

    US NSA has COVID-19

    Shouldn't have tested him, and he'd be fine right now! ;)

  536. [536] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    What does it matter which state has cops and innocent people killed

    what matters is that when you look at it nationally the numbers are so small that it's barely worth a mention.

    the question isn't whether some outliers exist, because they obviously do. the question is what will impact a state's voters more, 0.6 deaths per state due to stupid people attending protests, or 30,000 deaths per state resulting from novel coronavirus?

    that ain't splitting hairs, it's comparing rapunzel to beard stubble.

    JL

  537. [537] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    pardon my failure to place decimal points, it's 3,000 not 30,000.

    but still:

    3,000 > 0.6

    JL

  538. [538] 
    Michale wrote:

    what matters is that when you look at it nationally the numbers are so small that it's barely worth a mention.

    I am sure that the families of the hundreds of cops and civilians killed across the nation would disagree with you..

    Some scumbag who takes meth and fentynal and is fat fights the cops and is removed from society. THAT single life is so important to the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party that they kill hundreds and burn and loot and destroy...

    But the HUNDREDS of cops and innocent civilians that are killed nationally are "barely worth a mention"???

    Do you comprehend how totally frak'ed up that attitude is???

    the question isn't whether some outliers exist, because they obviously do. the question is what will impact a state's voters more, 0.6 deaths per state due to stupid people attending protests, or 30,000 deaths per state resulting from novel coronavirus?

    And yet, .08% of black Americans killed by cops is enough to create a national terrorist organization.. But 96% of black Americans killed by that terrorist organization is to be ignored??

    Do you see how utterly whacked your priorities are??

    The fact remains.. Your Democrat/AntiFa/BLackLiesMatter believes that protesting and looting and destroying is more important than the pandemic..

    It stands to reason that OPPOSING the terrorist actions of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic..

  539. [539] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    507

    Yes, sir. Nailed it.

  540. [540] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    508

    There has got to be at least SOME that are just a little tiny bit repetitive.

    You sure? You should read them all and report back, Pot.

    - Kettle ;)

  541. [541] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    I am sure that the families of the hundreds of cops and civilians killed across the nation would disagree with you..

    not hundreds. less than fifty. and of course no death is meaningless. the issue is that the numbers on one side are so dramatic, and that side ain't the one you're talkin about

  542. [542] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Cognitive Dissonance Alert!

    Why is the NSA "self-isolating and working from a secure location off site"? Why does Drumpf hire these dummies who believe Democrat hoaxes?

  543. [543] 
    Kick wrote:

    JFC
    510

    Wow. The latest poll shows that 80% of The American People think that the country is heading in the wrong direction and the orange P word-grabber is the guy driving the bus.

    80%! So 20% of Americans think a pandemic that will kill hundreds of thousands of Americans and the largest unemployment since the Great Depression is the "right track"? Regardless one's political ideology, that is the definition of "head in sand or a bodily orifice not necessarily your own." :)

  544. [544] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    513

    Heh! *throws head back in laughter*

  545. [545] 
    Michale wrote:

    not hundreds. less than fifty.

    WAR ON POLICE: Over 431 Police Officers Injured or Killed in Recent Far Left Black Lives Matter Protests and Riots
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/431-police-officers-injured-killed-recent-far-left-black-lives-matter-protests-riots/

    And if ONE death of a scumbag luser is sufficient to start nationwide rioting and looting and cop killings..

    Surely 50 (using your own number) dead cops is enough to warrant more than a blase "hardly worth mentioning"...

    Wouldn't you agree??

    the issue is that the numbers on one side are so dramatic, and that side ain't the one you're talkin about

    And yet YOUR Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party IGNORES that "dramatic" issue in favor of looting and destroying and killing cops..

    To YOUR Party, the rioting and looting and cop killing is MORE important than the pandemic..

    This is fact..

    Given that FACT, why is it so hard for you to understand that OPPOSING the rioting and looting and cop killing is more important to sane patriotic Americans than the pandemic...

    We can table this discussion for 99 days if you wish. But the facts will bear out my position..

  546. [546] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    It can't be long 'til Fat Donny realizes he's been had by the Deep State and Stepien. His new it's gonna get worse before it gets better so wear your patriotic Trump Virus prevention mask messsage just reinforces the idea that the Democrats and Never Trumpers were right all along. Somebody will tell him. Maybe Hannity. Maybe the Lincoln Project. Maybe Kim Kardashian.

  547. [547] 
    Michale wrote:

    But even if we do table the discussion, I will continue to point out that the ONLY thing that the Demcorat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party has going for it are polls.

    Everything else, sane patriotic everyday Americans oppose.. :D

  548. [548] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Kick,

    So 20% of Americans think a pandemic that will kill hundreds of thousands of Americans and the largest unemployment since the Great Depression is the "right track"?

    Well, polls can't be trusted. It's likely that they're underestimating the "wrong direction" crowd. You know, like they did with the Blue Tsunami of 2018.

  549. [549] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Kick,

    EM: What, no Prism? ;)

    Heh.

    Just you wait until next week when we put the focus on 1978. Ah, so many favourite tunes, so little time ...

  550. [550] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Nypoet, Kick-
    How many of the 500 comments were mine?

    When CW keeps repeating the same you have no other choice mantra and other commenters repeat the same bullshit about me or One Demand claiming I have not responded to bullshit I have responded to I am not being repetitive, I am responding to others being repetitive.

    If CW would have a discussion and other commenters would continue a discussion without the reset arguments and deflection to other things when they have no rational argument to my responses the discussions would not be repetitive.

  551. [551] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Now, THAT right there is pretty repetitive. Ahem

    Where were you last night?

  552. [552] 
    Kick wrote:

    JL
    531

    2. in the past 25 years, there has been exactly one death due to ANTIFASCIST TERRORISM. that death was the perpetrator himself.

    Yes, sir.

    i'm not saying the protests are as "perfect" as donald's phone call with ukraine (and if you check back and see you'll note that i think it's dumb to have massive assemblies of people during a pandemic). what i'm saying is that the way you're framing the protests doesn't match the facts on the ground, and the deaths due to the bogeymen you're throwing out are infinitesimal when compared to the deaths caused by covid.

    Yes, sir. The 2016 Dallas police shootings were perpetrated by an Army combat veteran/reserve who wasn't part of any group but wanted to kill white people/police. If we're going to label all the veterans of the United States who aren't part of a group as "antifa" and Democrats, that'll be quite enough votes to make Joe Biden president. Also, the Dallas Police are not fascists.

  553. [553] 
    Michale wrote:

    America’s Major Cities Are Being Turned Into War Zones, And It Is Not Going To End In November

    The civil unrest that we witnessed all across America this weekend was extremely alarming. For a few weeks, it seemed like the chaos that erupted in the immediate aftermath of the tragic death of George Floyd was subsiding, but in recent days there has been a dramatic resurgence. Within the last 48 hours, there have been eruptions of violence in major cities such as Seattle, Portland, Atlanta, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Oakland, Louisville, Austin and Richmond. At this point we have seen sustained protests and rioting for nearly two months straight, and it looks like the chaos isn’t going to disappear any time soon.

    Over the past few weeks, a few people have written me emails suggesting that the civil unrest will disappear if Joe Biden wins the election in November.

    But I don’t believe that this is true. Virtually all of the rioting is happening in cities that are controlled by Democrats, and the leftist politicians that run those cities do not have any control over the Marxist protesters at all.
    http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/americas-major-cities-are-being-turned-into-war-zones-and-it-is-not-going-to-end-in-november

    The idea that sane patriotic Americans don't care about America being turned into Fallujah by the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party??

    Ludicrous...

  554. [554] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    American Greatness Gives Joe Biden a Cognition Test
    What could possibly go wrong?

    In poll after poll after poll, voters in battleground states agree that Joe Biden isn’t all there mentally. The “4Esoterics”—Judah Friedman, Lewis Fein, Ben Boychuk, and Chris Buskirk—thought it would be a public service to ask the former vice president and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee to submit to a cognition test of their own design.

    It took six tries but they finally got it—sort of. Watch the video below and see for yourself how “Biden” performed.
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/26/american-greatness-gives-joe-biden-a-cognition-test/

    Definitely a few fries short of a happy meal...

    If only someone had warned Basement Biden to go out on top and avoid sullying his at-the-time good name..

    Oh... wait...

  555. [555] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And, where the heck were you!? Wish I could say I missed ya but, I didn't, really. I posted a song for you, though I can't tell you why ... :)

  556. [556] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    Oregon High School Football Coach Fired for Also Working as a Police Officer

    Oregon Live has reported that a high school football coach has been fired from his job due to also working as a sergeant in the local police department.

    Ken Duilio, the football coach of Cleveland High School in Portland, Oregon, was originally hired in 2019. However, he was informed on Monday that his coaching contract would not be renewed for another academic year, and Duilio immediately realized that it was because he also serves with the Portland Police Bureau as a sergeant.

    In announcing Coach Duilio’s firing, Marshall Haskins, the athletic director for Portland Public Schools, said that the decision was made in order to “go in a different direction.”

    Duilio said there was a coordinated effort to get him fired by an unknown far-left group, which began putting up posters all over campus, featuring pictures of Duilio as a police officer, after he spoke at a news conference in June on behalf of besieged Portland police officers. When Duilio was fired, he said that he asked the district to at least tell him who was pushing for his firing, but they refused to tell him.

    The firing of Duilio represents a shift towards anti-police sentiments in public schools as a result of the far-left “defund the police” movement. Many public schools are firing police officers who are designated to work with campus security, and Portland especially has become one of the last remaining hotbeds of mob violence by the terrorist organizations Antifa and Black Lives Matter over the last several weeks.
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/27/oregon-high-school-football-coach-fired-for-also-working-as-a-police-officer/

    Once again.. This cop-hating attitude by the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is going to cost Basement Biden a **LOT** of votes in 99 days..

    No Party with such a cop hating cop killing platform has EVER won any election...

  557. [557] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    542

    Why is the NSA "self-isolating and working from a secure location off site"? Why does Drumpf hire these dummies who believe Democrat hoaxes?

    Heh. The White House confirms that he tests "multiple times a day."

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/21/trump-tested-coronavirus-multiple-times-day-375957

    So for anyone still under the nonsensical impression that they shouldn't be concerned about acquiring COVID-19, look how concerned Donald Trump "isn't"! Those multiple tests a day are for what? To protect the children?

  558. [558] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, where the heck were you!? Wish I could say I missed ya but, I didn't, really. I posted a song for you, though I can't tell you why ... :)

    I was still a little perturbed at you both for what went on..

    Even though, I decided to do you a solid and not show up cuz I am sure some would have ruined your fun...

    I'll start the music early next Sunday.. :D

  559. [559] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Fine.

  560. [560] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    The earlier, the better - if you know what I mean and I'm not sure that you do.

  561. [561] 
    Michale wrote:

    The earlier, the better - if you know what I mean and I'm not sure that you do.

    Oh, I know what ya mean..

    But while escapism can be fun, one must really keep their feet planted in reality.. :D

  562. [562] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    Morning Greatness: Gunfire, Arson, Explosives at Weekend Riots

    Good Monday morning.
    Here is what’s on the president’s agenda today:

    The President participates in a greeting with the Walking Marine, Terry Sharpe
    President Trump participates in a tour of Bioprocess Innovation Center at Fujifilm Diosynth Biotechnologies in Morrisville, North Carolina
    Weekend riot debrief

    Let’s get started.

    In Aurora, Colorado a group of rioters were marching on Interstate 225 (I’m pretty sure this is illegal) and shots were fired at a vehicle driving on the road. The shooter ended up hitting two protestors with his gun fire. Here’s the gunman (obviously a tea partier or a bugaloo dude) and the police are looking for him:

    The rioters returned to the Aurora police department building, tore down a fence and then police declared an unlawful assembly. “APD tweeted that the protesters were no longer peaceful, as they were throwing objects, shining lasers and shooting large fireworks at officers. They had broken windows to the courthouses and started a fire in an office, APD said.”

    Over in Austin, Texas we had a BLM rioter shot and killed after he approached a driver who ended up in the middle of a street march.

    An Austin Police spokesperson said officers were monitoring the protest when the shooting happened around 9:52 p.m. According to initial reports, APD said, the victim approached the suspect’s vehicle and may have been carrying a rifle.

    The suspect inside the vehicle then shot the victim, police said. The suspect has been detained and is cooperating with officers, the APD spokesperson said.

    He was carrying a rifle, he was pointing an AK-47 at the driver. “Initial reports indicate the suspect was carrying a rifle and shot at the victim, who was in his car, police told a briefing. The suspect has been detained, they said,” according to Breitbart. So, yes, people with guns will shoot back when they are trapped in a mob of aggressors with bullets coming their way. Fox News reports:

    Multiple armed protesters approached the car, at which point the driver fired several shots before speeding away, witnesses said. They added that several of the protesters returned fire as the driver made his escape, with police confirming at least three people opened fire. Garrett Foster, 28, was shot and killed.

    The unnamed driver said he shot at Foster because the protester had pointed his rifle toward him.
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/27/morning-greatness-gunfire-arson-explosives-at-weekend-riots/

    The idea that there are not shootings and killings at these protests is ludicrous..

    And the idea that sane patriotic Americans won't care about such things when they go to vote is the epitome of self-delusion..

    Americans very much cared in 1968 and the voting reflected that..

  563. [563] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    And now for a report on "sane, patriotic, everyday Americans" in Portland:

    99% of Portland Moms “Not angry, just disappointed”

    Portland’s wall of mothers has gotten a large amount of attention and their motivation to protect their own and others’ children has generated high praise. However, most Portland mothers have not attended any of the demonstrations that have occurred nightly in the city since the death of George Floyd. The reasons for this seeming lack of enthusiasm appear to have a common thread.

    “Well, it’s not that I wouldn’t be at the Justice Center,” 51 year old mother Dolores Zambrano said when interviewed Tuesday. “But my kids, they don’t smash the state so much. This year, they didn’t even do anything to fuck up the patriarchy on Mother’s Day.”

    99% of Portland Moms “Not angry, just disappointed”

  564. [564] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1287482713058865153

    This is what is happening on the streets of Democrat-run cities..

    Americans are NOT going to vote for more of the same..

    Even if you ARE correct and COVID will be the ONLY thing that Americans vote on..

    Basement Joe has been hiding in his basement the whole time..

    How are to believe he will be out there leading the fight when he doesn't have the mental ability to even leave his basement???

  565. [565] 
    Michale wrote:

    99% of Portland Moms “Not angry, just disappointed”

    Bullshit..

    Once again, bullshit stats with absolutely NO FACTUAL BASIS..

    And when those moms have to stay home from work and protesting because their kids can't go to school??

    Who do you think will get the blame??

    The Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    So, either way, ya'all lose.. :D

  566. [566] 
    Michale wrote:

    So apparently members of the all-black "Not Fucking Around Coalition" militia were well, fucking around, and accidentally shot each other...

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    That's the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party for ya... :D

    In the coming civil war, the group that is 98% armed and trained will just have to sit back and watch the morons on the Left take themselves out..

    :D

  567. [567] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    546

    It can't be long 'til Fat Donny realizes he's been had by the Deep State and Stepien. His new it's gonna get worse before it gets better so wear your patriotic Trump Virus prevention mask messsage just reinforces the idea that the Democrats and Never Trumpers were right all along.

    Yes, sir... that's a picture worth several thousand words... a giant honking "about face," wasn't it? Hard not to miss that ginormous plot twist to start off Season Two with a bigly "wait, what"? Heh.

    Somebody will tell him. Maybe Hannity.

    Too much of a "yes" man.

    Maybe the Lincoln Project.

    They sure told him about Parscale:

    Meet Brad Parscale - Brad's worth every dollar; just ask him!

    Maybe Kim Kardashian.

    Too busy helping her own presidential candidate. ;)

  568. [568] 
    Michale wrote:

    MV,

    And now for a report on "sane, patriotic, everyday Americans" in Portland:

    Yunno.. For someone who claimed that the best course of action is to ignore me and my comments..

    You don't seem all that keen on following your own advice.. :D

    Funny how that is, eh?? :D

  569. [569] 
    Michale wrote:

    REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION

    Where Are the New Heroes of the Revolution?

    Cultural revolutions are suicidal, nihilistic, and incoherent. Those who survive such cannibalism do so by arbitrarily exempting their leaders from their own rules of mandated purity and no statute of limitations.

    Since late May, the United States has been convulsed by a cultural revolution unlike any seen in its recent history. Statues have been toppled, often without any logic or consistent grievance. Institutions have been renamed, again without coherent consistency.

    Christian iconography has been a common target. Television shows have been taken off the air; particular corporations boycotted; professional sports recalibrated into social activist spectacles.

    If there is any common denominator to this madness, it is apparently that the past was toxic, and erasing it in the present will make for a more just and united future.

    For example, because of the glorification of the imperialist and spoiler of native paradise Christopher Columbus, his statue in Chicago must be removed nocturnally by the order of the mayor—in order to restore peace of mind, social justice, and calm. That act of iconoclasm will rectify things in the present, and thus there will not be another 500 annual homicides in Chicago.

    But once names are replaced and commemoration destroyed, what exactly follows the erased?

    Anarchy Is the Replacement
    Mao and Stalin had their pictures put up everywhere—while making the prior czars and the warlords amateurs in the arithmetic of genocide. The revolutionary Castro Brothers and Muammar Gaddafi turned the streets of Havana and Tripoli into Disney-like ads for their persons. So did Saddam Hussein—as thousands were rounded up and murdered.

    Will the founders of Black Lives Matter demand such statues for themselves?

    In truth, the iconoclasts and revolutionaries are guided by an informal set of chaotic rules that ensures their movement must remain anarchical and nihilist. They cannot really replace what they have destroyed—at least according to their own ad hoc rules of political correctness. And after over two months of constant protests, we know what those protocols are.

    One, we do not judge famous people by weighing their bad and good deeds. One sin—with or without confession—condemns you to politically incorrect Hell. One bad characteristic—especially supposed racism—cancels whatever good one otherwise accomplished.

    Liberals idolize President Woodrow Wilson for his progressive politics and one-world utopian foreign policy. But because Wilson was also by our standards an inveterate racist, he is now canceled.

    Global pacifist Mahatma Gandhi is also out, because in his earlier incarnation as a South African barrister he said and wrote things that now are deemed racist. George Washington may have been unique in terms of his superior morality and achievements, especially in comparison with other slave-holders. But as a slave-holder, his virtue does not matter; and so Washington is relegated to the toxic column, lumped together with any otherwise criminal-minded person who also owned slaves.
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/26/where-are-the-new-heroes-of-the-revolution/

    Basically, the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party wants to turn America into Soviet Russia or Venezuela...

    And, pandemic or no pandemic, no sane patriotic American is going to vote for that..

    PERIOD...

  570. [570] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    548

    Well, polls can't be trusted. It's likely that they're underestimating the "wrong direction" crowd. You know, like they did with the Blue Tsunami of 2018.

    Heh. You're right. They totally missed that flipped seat in OK-05... a 20-point swinger.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/house/oklahoma/5/20

    You see how those "lefties" at 538 always pad the polls in favor of the Democrats? :)

  571. [571] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [503] Michale wrote:


    MC,

    BTW I like songs with lots of cuss words (Eminem, Tupac, "One Night in Babcock" - Murray Head -- white rap in the 70s.)

    Murray Head did ONE NIGHT IN BANGKOK..

    The city, not the furniture store.. :D

    Thanks, Brother Michale. My spelling of Bangkok looked kinda funny, but after plowing through all of the above *Kumbaya* I just said "frak it."

    Us white boys can rap, too, huh?

  572. [572] 
    Kick wrote:

    RE-DO 570 [link]

    John From Censornati
    548

    Well, polls can't be trusted. It's likely that they're underestimating the "wrong direction" crowd. You know, like they did with the Blue Tsunami of 2018.

    Heh. You're right. They totally missed that flipped seat in OK-05... a 20-point swinger.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/house/oklahoma/5/

    You see how those "lefties" at 538 always pad the polls in favor of the Democrats? :)

  573. [573] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years

    0 Victims killed in anti-fascist attacks since 1994
    21 Victims killed in left-wing violence since 2010
    95 Victims killed in jihadist attacks since 2010
    117 Victims killed in right-wing violence since 2010
    329 Victims killed in right-wing violence since 1994

    Who are the real problem and who are the real patriots?

    149,261 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

  574. [574] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    550

    How many of the 500 comments were mine?

    Is your counter broken?

  575. [575] 
    Michale wrote:

    Thanks, Brother Michale. My spelling of Bangkok looked kinda funny, but after plowing through all of the above *Kumbaya* I just said "frak it."

    Us white boys can rap, too, huh?

    Hehehe

  576. [576] 
    Michale wrote:

    149,261 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

    The facts prove that only 8,955 have died from Covid....

    Once again, your stat is nothing more than fear mongering bullshit..

    0 Victims killed in anti-fascist attacks since 1994

    Since AntiFa are actually fascists (think (if you can) Democratic Republic Of North Korea) that stat should read

    6,000,000 Jews killed by fascists like AntiFa

  577. [577] 
    Michale wrote:

    And how many black Americans has BlackLiesMatter killed???

    Thousands..

    Not to mention your Democrat Party has also killed thousands of black Americans..

    Really wouldn't be spewing bullshit, Blathy...

  578. [578] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [549] Elizabeth Miller wrote:


    Kick,

    EM: What, no Prism? ;)

    Heh.

    Just you wait until next week when we put the focus on 1978. Ah, so many favourite tunes, so little time ...

    1978!?!...Oooo, I'm gonna hafta do I little digging. I was in my Sophomore year at University of Michigan.

  579. [579] 
    Kick wrote:

    MyVoice
    563

    And now for a report on "sane, patriotic, everyday Americans" in Portland:

    99% of Portland Moms “Not angry, just disappointed”

    Heh.

    “There’s so much they could be doing!” added Zambrano. “Go down and play some music, sing with the people. Maybe swat a tear gas canister away from the younger kids or stand between someone hit by a rubber bullet and La Migra until someone else can get them to safety.”

    *laughs*

    I have been successfully shamed into calling my Mother. :)

  580. [580] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Another good year, MC, another good year!

  581. [581] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    BashiBazouk wrote:


    Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years

    0 Victims killed in anti-fascist attacks since 1994
    21 Victims killed in left-wing violence since 2010
    95 Victims killed in jihadist attacks since 2010
    117 Victims killed in right-wing violence since 2010
    329 Victims killed in right-wing violence since 1994

    Who are the real problem and who are the real patriots?

    149,261 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

    I'm not surprised. Right wing violence has been an off the radar issue, but the data show that it shouldn't be that way. And that's not even counting the white-on-black violence going back 4 centuries.

    Where did these numbers come from? Please share the link. As I'm confident that it'd be of interest to Brother Michale, I'd like to figure out how many police have been killed due to right-wing versus left-wing violence.

  582. [582] 
    Michale wrote:

    Where did these numbers come from? Please share the link. As I'm confident that it'd be of interest to Brother Michale, I'd like to figure out how many police have been killed due to right-wing versus left-wing violence.

    I can assure you.. Blathy's link, if he even has one, will be some left wing rag like 538 or HuffPoop or WaPoop..

  583. [583] 
    Michale wrote:

    1978!?!...Oooo, I'm gonna hafta do I little digging. I was in my Sophomore year at University of Michiga

    Wow. Yer an old fart! :D hehehe

  584. [584] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa

    What did I tell you..

    Some Left Wing rag.. And not even an American source at that...

    No wonder Blathy was trying to hide the source of his bullshit....

  585. [585] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the source for Blathy's Left Wing rag???

    Center For Strategic And International Studies.

    A Left Wing "think tank" that was actually a cover for Arms Dealing..

    NYT Reveals Think Tank It’s Cited for Years to Be Corrupt Arms Booster

    A recent New York Times article (8/7/16) detailed, in often scathing terms, what many media critics already knew: that think tanks are frequently not objective, neutral arbiters of information, but corporate- and government-funded agenda-promoters with an academic veneer to give the appearance of impartiality.
    https://fair.org/home/nyt-reveals-think-tank-its-cited-for-years-to-be-corrupt-arms-booster/

    It's no wonder Blathy didn't want to reveal his source...

  586. [586] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    The Great Re-closing has begun here. Governor Beshear says he will announce additional tyrannical measures on Monday to try to slow the spread of Trump Virus in Kentucky. On Sunday, White House Trump Virus Task Force mole Deborah Birx said that she recommended that Kentucky close bars and reduce restaurant capacity in an effort to slow the spread of Trump Virus and destroy the economy. The state’s largest school districts in Louisville and Lexington will begin the year with remote learning just so that they can stick it to Big Orange.

  587. [587] 
    Don Harris wrote:

    Kick-
    My counter isn't broken.

    It's the repetitive leaks from the roof that require attention.

    The leaks consist of your repetitive counters that are broken because they are reset and deflection counters.

  588. [588] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    581

    Where did these numbers come from? Please share the link.

    He already did share the link... doing that thing you taught me:

    Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years

    ^^^ Doesn't that first line make a link on your screen? ^^^

    If it doesn't, do some adjustments. Oh, that's right; you're on your cell phone. Display adjustments! Because Bashi is definitely not one who hides sources. :)

  589. [589] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    586

    The Great Re-closing has begun here. Governor Beshear says he will announce additional tyrannical measures on Monday to try to slow the spread of Trump Virus in Kentucky.

    Well, what's he waiting for? It's Monday now!

    On Sunday, White House Trump Virus Task Force mole Deborah Birx said that she recommended that Kentucky close bars and reduce restaurant capacity in an effort to slow the spread of Trump Virus and destroy the economy.

    That Trump administration is just hellbent on destroying the United States economy. If she keeps this up, her scripts for the remainder of Season 2 are going to be as limited as the Dr. Fauci character.

    The state’s largest school districts in Louisville and Lexington will begin the year with remote learning just so that they can stick it to Big Orange.

    What... no funding for the schools in Moscow Mitch's hometown? Why, it would be just a crying shame if that angered his neighbors and tarnished his chances for reelection. ;)

    Don't get me wrong, I suspect he'll win reelection to Senate Minority Leader, of course, I just don't see anything wrong with making the GOP spend money in a Senate race in Kentucky where they're not at all used to having to work too hard for it. You can't exactly fund them all. :)

  590. [590] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    587

    My counter isn't broken.

    Oh, good... then I trust you're quite capable of doing your own counting. :)

  591. [591] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Kick,

    Well, what's he waiting for?

    His daily 4 PM press conference. He does his job and gives us info every day.

    If she keeps this up, her scripts for the remainder of Season 2 are going to be as limited as the Dr. Fauci character.

    HOC is unscripted.

    Don't get me wrong, I suspect he'll win reelection to Senate Minority Leader, of course

    You never know. We'll have to wait and see!

  592. [592] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    [579] Kick wrote:

    I have been successfully shamed into calling my Mother. :)

    This is good. Now make sure to work that into your regular schedule.

  593. [593] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [583] Michale wrote:

    1978!?!...Oooo, I'm gonna hafta do I little digging. I was in my Sophomore year at University of Michigan

    Wow. Yer an old fart! :D hehehe

    Yeah. You outta give your Elders a little more respect around here, Punk! *not holding my breath haha*

    BTW I'm 61 years old and I want to advise you that it just gets worse year after year.

    "I knew I'd get older but I didn't think it would happen THIS quickly!"

  594. [594] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    591

    His daily 4 PM press conference. He does his job and gives us info every day.

    He is definitely one of the good ones, for sure.

    HOC is unscripted.

    Heh. You got me there.

    You never know. We'll have to wait and see!

    I would love to see him retired; handle that for us, will you? Heh. ;)

  595. [595] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yeah. You outta give your Elders a little more respect around here, Punk! *not holding my breath haha*

    BTW I'm 61 years old and I want to advise you that it just gets worse year after year.

    "I knew I'd get older but I didn't think it would happen THIS quickly!"

    Touche' :D

  596. [596] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [588]

    Duh-Oh!

  597. [597] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @don,

    When CW keeps repeating the same [stuff] and other commenters repeat the same [stuff] about [my stuff] claiming I have not responded to [stuff] I have responded to I am not being repetitive, I am responding to others being repetitive.

    thank you for clearing that [stuff] up. when i awake from reading your comments, i'll have some pie and then let you know whether or not i care.

  598. [598] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Boom!

  599. [599] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    have we ever hit a thousand?

  600. [600] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    New column coming up and, none too soon!

  601. [601] 
    Michale wrote:

    I think 680 was our highest...

  602. [602] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Must have been the torture debate. Ahem.

  603. [603] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Speaking of which ...

    New column coming soon, thank the Gods.

  604. [604] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Really wouldn't be spewing bullshit, Blathy...

    Don't worry, I won't be encroaching on your territory.

    Some Left Wing rag..

    As opposed to the walls of text you post from a right wing rag? Careful there your hypocrisy is showing...

    149,281 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

  605. [605] 
    Michale wrote:

    149,281 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...

    Only 6% of that actually died from Covid..

    Once again, yer spewing bullshit..

  606. [606] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Once again, yer spewing bullshit..

    Yawn. [cdc.gov]

  607. [607] 
    Michale wrote:

    CDC???

    You mean the organization that wants schools to open??

    THAT CDC???

  608. [608] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Trump is scared. [businessinsider.com]

    Maybe if he actually did his job he would not have to play scaredy cat on the taxpayers dime...

  609. [609] 
    Michale wrote:

    Guess you gave up on that other rag and now have a new source for your propaganda...

  610. [610] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Yawn.

  611. [611] 
    Michale wrote:

    More hysterical propaganda from cop-killing scumbags like Blathy et al.....

    Let's compare notes on 3 Nov and see who is REALLY scared, eh Blathy?? :D

  612. [612] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Calling names again?

    Yawn.

  613. [613] 
    Michale wrote:

    Judge Rules Federal Agents Don’t Have To Identify Themselves While Making Arrests In Portland
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/judge-rules-federal-agents-dont-have-to-identify-themselves-while-making-arrests-in-portland

    And Dumbocrats lose AGAIN in the courts!!!! :D

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  614. [614] 
    Michale wrote:

    Calling names again?

    Yawn.

    Nope.. Just pointing out the facts..

    I know, I know.. The facts hurt.. Tough shit deal with it..

  615. [615] 
    Michale wrote:

    Welp, it's that time.. Finishing up Season 6 of The Americans.. Can't wait til the KGB get's their asses kicked.. :D

    See ya'all bright in early in the morning where I laugh all day at what lusers the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party is.. :D

  616. [616] 
    Michale wrote:

    And once again... I call it a night and everyone else bails as well... :D

    I am truly the trendsetter here, eh?? :D

  617. [617] 
    TheStig wrote:

    Bashi-314

    What you are looking for to win your argument is the CDC rubric for: "cause of death" = proximal cause."

    Proximal cause is "the disease or injury that initiated the train of morbid events leading directly to death" The chain of events leading to death doesn't roll without a proximal cause.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/misc/hb_me.pdf

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