There'll be a new column up!

agreed.

I'm kidding!

@kick (and to a lesser extent JFC),

my comment wasn't about michale as much as it was about AIDS.

You needn't explain yourself to me. You were perfectly clear in your opinion as was Russ. Enough said.

when you guys get into it with each other you both cross the line as a matter of course; that's just part of the game you and he like to play.

You're mistaken.

i accept that russ didn't mean it the way i read it, but the point where anyone else is concerned is to try not to be the one who turns it back into a flame war.

Your opinion. I'm not going to rehash even one of the instances of the troll's malignancy, but you can take it to the bank if I tell you it's there that it's there. I have no reason to invent it nor would I ever.

End of discussion.

In addition, I do not accuse LizM (or you) of enabling it. There's just one enabler and it's CW. He gets to make that call because he owns the place and he's explained himself more than once. I can't understand how it's worth it to host so much hideous shit, but I have certainly never asked him to end it.

I don't play with it at all. I don't even read its dreck except in other poster's responses to it which I'd prefer for everyone to just stop doing. And like I said, I don't consider it to be "evil", malignant is a much better fit.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/malignant

we all have our moments; i think the main thing that keeps CW from having to step in is for us to be conscious of our own fallibility and apologetic when it's called for.

JL

@kick (and to a lesser extent JFC),

my comment wasn't about michale as much as it was about AIDS. when you guys get into it with each other you both cross the line as a matter of course; that's just part of the game you and he like to play. i accept that russ didn't mean it the way i read it, but the point where anyone else is concerned is to try not to be the one who turns it back into a flame war.

JL

[Sorry CM I just got all pissed off as did "so-and-so" blah blah...blah BLAH blah a month ago...]

But. We kewell.

Enjoy the next few, precious hours cuz upon my return tomorrow AM I'ma RETIRE your intellectually lame ass from bothering Sentient Beings on CW.com. Fucker.

...you and me, ooochk...

John From Censornati
Kick
nypoet22

I happen to think that the comment section has been decidedly better recently even when somebody gets cranky. Scrolling through miles and miles of troll diarrhea and reactions to that diarrhea is hard to stomach and that's the troll's objective *. I've seen no evidence of redeeming qualities in your buddy. They say that Trump is charming in person (barf). Who knows? Maybe he even likes Star Trek. Sociopaths are good at stuff like that.

I'll always say what I've got to say, but I'm much more likely to actually interact with others here when the comment section isn't polluted with troll.

* To be clear, I'm not referring to Don. I used to like him, but now I think he's just boring and counter-productive.

You can't find anything in the archive here where I defend toxic vile spew from anyone. And, you know it! :)

You have no idea what I know because if you had an iota or inkling of what I know, then you'd obviously already know you were wrong.

You seriously want to take on my memory and my absolute honesty in calling things exactly the way they are? Fine.

[33] Elizabeth Miller wrote:

And, one more thing Kick,

I hope you continue to post my capitalized foul language post as it stands as the model and high water mark for what should be allowed around here.

I mean that sincerely, I'm not trying to be facetious here.

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/04/15/first-quarter-democratic-fundraising-numbers-are-in/#comment-133479

*
Above you will find what you claimed didn't exist. It is you defending your own foul language and highlights perfectly your personal sense of entitlement to say whatever you wish while admonishing everyone else and turning a blind eye to trolls.

Are there more examples of that? You bet your ass there are... so get off Russ's. What he is being accused of saying and what he actually said are two entirely different things. Your sense of entitlement to judge everyone else while you regularly turn a blind eye to the toxic troll... again duly noted.

Good for you. Good luck with that, but implying that the problem emanates from somewhere other than that troll won't get you there.

Far from enabling the crudest parts of this place, I'm trying to change it and failing that, ignore it.

Kick need not admit she's wrong. She's not.

[111]

You did exactly that [103]. You've gone as far as telling me that it's not a troll which is downright bizarre and obviously incorrect. Are you strong enough to admit when you're incorrect?

Are you out there, somewhere. Hoping you and the family are well.

I've got a great idea for the next CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party!

I noticed you were once again absent from the festivities this past Sunday. Is everything okay?

So, show me my archived mean-spiritedness.

Not interested. It wouldn't solve anything to dredge up your repeated hounding of multiple posters who didn't meet with definition of "common decency" while you turned a blind eye to the toxic spew of your friend.

When I said the board was archived, I was referring to the following: There is a definite and distinct streak of mean spiritedness that can tend to run through this place. And, it ain't Michale.

That's a ridiculous statement on its face considering this board is archived with the toxic spew and precisely why I referred to you as his "preeminent enabler."

Anyone want to twist Russ's words while simultaneously defending some of the most vile toxic spew I've ever seen posted on the Internet on any blog; you've either lost your perspective to judge or you've lost your memory... or both.

End of discussion.

So, show me my archived mean-spiritedness.

Projection, I won't be fooled by projection
Projection, you thought you could put something over me

If I had been given great advice I would follow it.

You were given great advice by the author of the blog. No one can help you if you don't recognize great advice when you see it.

I have provided great advice that the Dems and no one here has followed which has resulted in Trump being elected and the current mishandling of the pandemic.

Your inability to sell your idea is on you and no one else.

When me giving people good advice is returned with insults to distract and deflect it is not on me.

I don't think anyone is attempting to distract or deflect. Your idea has been flogged and discussed to death, and you've been given ample time and space to sell it. Your failure in selling it is definitely on you and no one else.

There is a definite and distinct streak of mean spiritedness that can tend to run through this place. And, it ain't Michale.

Good look fooling everyone else; you've obviously got yourself covered. The board is archived, you know.

That HIV comparison is just a symptom of it.

Anyone twisting his words into something he never meant is much more indicative of a problem on their part. He's not the first you've done it to while you feel quite free to dump on whomever you please.

And that is why many here wants to keep citizens that might agree that it is the better option from finding out about it because then those here could not make the same you have no other choice argument that gave us Trump and the mishandling of the pandemic we are suffering from in the first place.

No one on this blog is stopping you except yourself. You've been given great advice about starting your own blog and allowing people to find out about your crusade. TYA.

The bullshit arguments constantly repeated are an insult to me and to rational discussion.

You are an insult to yourself because you're still here flogging the same #*%$)* and whining about the "arguments constantly repeated" yet somehow expecting a different result. It's asinine.

And insults seem to be the norm here originating from many others.

If you inspire insults from so many people, that's on you.

There is a definite and distinct streak of mean spiritedness that can tend to run through this place. And, it ain't Michale.

That HIV comparison is just a symptom of it.

To your continued health, Kick.

Thank you, sincerely, MV. I will take all the well wishes I can get, and I won't go down without a fight, that is for dang sure. I hope everyone in Texas feels the same way or November could be wonky. People should be allowed to vote in this country without fear of bodily harm regardless of whom they support.

:)

Go Joe! Make them work their asses off for Texas. What could it hurt? ;)

This is unnecessary.

As well as ignorant and duplicitous.

Told you it could be arranged. :)

So, I am sorry that I offended you with my comment...that was never my intent.

Your comment was clear to me and obviously to others. Since I don't recall an instance where JL ever took issue with his friend's delusional repeated requests for the suicide of other "members of the community," I'd say you've nothing whatsoever to worry about in that department. Just saying.

likening any human being to HIV would require that they be a pretty evil person.

Not really, JL. The comment was most definitely about HIV and it being undetectable in its host and then returning. Viruses have no evil human characteristics like people do.

It's not like Russ requested that anybody kill themselves or anything.

Kick wrote:
MtnCaddy
37

That could be arranged. ;)

Day-yam! I likes that! As we chanted, "A strong man ain't afraid of no strong woman" when I marched for the ERA with 100,000 hard core Libtards in Chicago.

And you Texas Gals shore tawk sexy, too!

(singing)

I got...no exes
Down in Texas
Ain't been...no exes
For MC

But if...I had
Exes in Texas
I'd live in Mother Russia,
Yessiree!

Drumpf has now outsourced his Fauci smear project to Stephen Moore! He has nicknamed Fauci "Dr Wrong". Holy cow, Fat Donny is incompetent. It hard to imagine a person who's wronger or douchebaggier than Moore.

I accept your douchebag challenge and submit the following for your consideration:

Stephen Miller

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/11/12/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails

And now, it's off to the shower to clean the stench off me for just mentioning the little SOB.

It looks like Biden may actually intend to seriously go after Texas, as he's already begun buying TV ad space here.

I know, right!? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: It doesn't matter if Biden wins Texas or not... make the Trumpublicans fight for it because they're finished if they lose it. Winning Texas in 2020 would just be icing on the cake. She'll be flipping sooner or later. :)

**Shout out to my Homegirl Kick: I don't care if yer a girl I want you on my side in the next barfight I get into! A barfight over politics, natch. I focuses my mayhem nowadays

That could be arranged. ;)

Uh, ditto, Kick haha

I finally figured out where M was coming from -- there are internal Trump polls which apparently show African-American support as high as 40%.

Seriously? Fire them now; that's positively insane.

After the events of the prior year, etc., etc. and Trump still attempting to kill Obamacare/ACA in the SCOTUS, I cannot fathom Trump even receiving the 8% he polled in 2016... more likely somewhere in the 5% to 7% range at best, with Biden more likely to receive around 93% to 94% of the "black American" vote in 2020.

We'll see. Like you've said before, it's an exit polling number anyway. :)

"BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!"

Yep... exactly this! :)

I have a question for loyal readers. As I upgrade back to the 2016 file, I was thinking maybe the larger charts (the ones you get when you click on the small ones here) could be bigger.

They look great to me. :)

To date, the Trump campaign has all but written off a repeat win in Michigan... for almost a year now. Could this change? Unlikely, but there's still time.

Without winning Florida, Trump has almost no path to winning the presidency. Without Florida and Michigan... it's not impossible but highly unlikely.

Without Ohio, no Republican has ever won the presidency.

The Democrats are juiced like rarely, fundraising without OD is through the roof. Biden would be insane to hand in four Kings for a chance to draw a Royal flush. It would be political malpractice, and such an idiot move to please the "purists" such as yourself would cast serious doubt i
about Biden's intelligence and play to the only "anti-Biden" campaign Trump can run.

Sheesh, Dawg - give it a rest. You cannot insult your way to any "converts," duh.

Hope I don't pay for it with my life. :)

Texas is generally a nonvoting state, and that's exactly how the GOP wants to keep it by making it as hard as possible for people to vote by not allowing mail-in ballots, forcing citizens to stand in long lines to vote in person unless they are 65 or older, and forcing in-person voting during a pandemic. It's a crazy year.

I still expect TX-23 will be flipped in 2020 if the GOTV work is put in like the 2018 midterms and there is no outright chicanery. I can see Texas flipping in 2020, but it's not going to be an easy lift, going to take a lot of targeted work... but it's underway.

Texas: It's not a matter of "if" she will flip; it's only a matter of "when" it's going to happen. The GOP as we now know it will be over without Texas, and they know that. :)

And if you think Bleyd's comment was rational you are also delusional.

But the infected to refuse to take the cure.

This is unnecessary.

likening any human being to HIV would require that they be a pretty evil person

Sorry, I don’t consider a virus as being capable of decision making based on their moral convictions, so assigning the concepts of “good” or “evil” to Michale was not the point I was attempting to make. I will say that I was comparing him to something no one necessarily wants to have, and that Michale is impossible to get rid of (unless you get a bone marrow transplant...and who has the time or money to do that?). So, I am sorry that I offended you with my comment...that was never my intent.

Back in the days before auto correct.

Then again, maybe not.

Someone wanted to type "own" and typed "pwn."

Back in the days of auto correct I suppose.

bad form russ.

Twasn't my comment.

pwn started as a typo, I believe. P & O are right next to each other on the keyboard. I think it's a gamer thing. I'm an old geezer, so I could be completely wrong about it though.

Very nice. It posts some of the most vile, dehumanizing slime about other people imaginable. I don't buy into that faither concept of "evil", but if I did, I'd find it super appropriate.

likening any human being to HIV would require that they be a pretty evil person. troll or no, michale is part of this community, and has tried to adhere to whatever rules CW lays down for him. i don't think your comment about him was was fair or necessary.

JL

Heh.

Ohhhh, Michale is very much like the HIV virus... he may be undetectable for a while, but that does not mean that he still doesn’t infect this site and can return at any moment. Enjoy the good days while you can!

There. I've PWNed* the Trolls for the morning.

Now I can spend some serious quality time with POLITICO, The Atlantic, 538, The Young Turks and Ring of Fire, The Guardian (them Brits are merciless!) et al.

*BTW, whothehell does "PWN" mean?

Signed-
Struggling to Stay
Relevant at 61 Years Old

C'mon, MtnCaddy! Doesn't anyone around here have the cajones to put your money where your mouth is? For some real money? Trump indisputably has 40% black support in 'Murica!

I guess ya'all are just TIRED of being PWNed by me and my indisputable FACTS.

Don Harris wrote:
LIz (14)-
"I think I can get it IN THE behind FROM that."

There. Fixed it for you.

Haha, Dude you need to get your butt into comedy!

I think you'd be way more happy and successful at comedy than you are at flogging One Demand in these pages.

I'm afraid that Bleyd's reply needs to be addressed. Also, would OD be an organization, with a budget and financial requirements? Good luck getting folks to contribute above and beyond directly to an OD candidate.

The trade bailout has now spanned three years and surpassed $23 billion, even though it was never appropriated by Congress. Instead, the money was funneled through USDA’s Commodity Credit Corporation, a Depression-era agency that can borrow from the U.S. Treasury to stabilize the farm economy.

“The administration picked these trade fights promising agriculture that this would lead to some better world at some point,” Hamilton said. “Rather than suffering any consequence for the ill-conceived strategy, they just said, ‘Hey, let’s tap the bank. We’ll buy our way out of this.’”

And I betcha Trump insisted on having his signature on the darn checks.

I'm seeing a pretty monumental flaw in your OD plan. You essentially seem to require a majority of the citizens to simultaneously go on strike against non-OD candidates in favor of a single OD-friendly candidate in order for it to work. That's simply unrealistic.

First you'd have to find a candidate who agreed to OD's principles and who is popular enough to get the financial support of such a huge segment of the population that they could out-raise the major party candidates. That alone is simply not possible to do all in one go. No candidate of sufficient popularity would willing risk handicapping themselves so monumentally with the rules as they stand.

Even if you could find such a candidate though, how are you expecting to get so many small donors that they could keep up with the current fund raising system? How are you going to convince them that their donations wouldn't be in vain, that the candidate they're supporting would have a realistic chance of beating someone entrenched in the current system? Most people aren't willing to throw money at causes they don't believe have a chance.

So I ask you, what is the workable plan of action you are proposing? Ideals and concepts are great, but unless you have a way to put them into practice, they won't get you far.

MtnCaddy wrote:

And, Don Harris...

Pleeze to Donsplain, Señor

Just hilarious.

Now I'm worried about November.

hash

Jeopardy Question:
Why doesn't anyone capitalize "president" anymore?

No Matter Who
Ya Just Vote Blue!

Make it Great
State by State

No Matter Who
Vote Blue

Looks like these will split six and six.

You Leastcoast folks get the lead out and give me something fresh to read once I've finished my AM injection of black coffee!

(thinking)

There's that word "black," again. I 'spose that's why they say it never goes out of style yuk

I'm too new here to have heard how One Demand - even if it did raise a billion "the right way" - would overcome the ocean of PAC (and other dark money sources?

Pleeze to Donsplain, Señor

(also too lazy to look it up)

Off the top of my head:

A "serial" killer commits a "series" of killings, and...

Er, I forgot...

**Shout out to my Homegirl Kick: I don't care if yer a girl I want you on my side in the next barfight I get into! A barfight over politics, natch. I focuses my mayhem nowadays

Trump. Why no one capitalizes "president" anymore.

I finally figured out where M was coming from -- there are internal Trump polls which apparently show African-American support as high as 40%.

Yes, but The Artist Formerly Known as Michale linked to a Rasmussen poll that is a year old. He gave no indication that he relied on "internal polling."

Wait a second! I'm confused. Are you referring to "Black Tar" or "Beetlejuice?" Or maybe both? Together, you say?

Signed-
Curious in Country-Cali

Remember...NO shoelaces!

Silly me.

Beetlejuice
plus
Weigantia
or Interwebs
or Pipes
equals
Troll bait?

Um, JFC...

It can be arranged. Helluva Election Party...stone guaranteed

Thanks for yer kind words for my sloganeering. I sold Real Estate for years in Big Bear and I always prided myself on writing good ad copy. I got a million of them! Plus, as I said in the job interview that launched my career, "I give good phone!"

But enough about me -- back to the issues!

Naw, I think that there are enough Conservative/Christofacist black voters plus a percentage of garden variety black rubes that Trump will give his own 2016 8% black Red Wall a run for the money haha

Pleeze, Señor, to esplain "Beetlejuice" commentario.

"Oh yeah. Don't do drugs."
- Eminem
The Slim Shady LP

And...
0059 7/14
3,363,056 + 204,873 Deaths: 135,605 + 1,828
...in ~2.5 days

Winning!

So I also thought, until I reflected tonight on seeing Jeopardy! -- is "serial" the singular of "series"? I'm too lazy to look it up, I fully admit...

And it's "pipes," not "interwebs" -- but I would have to look that cite up, too...

Heh.

[13] -

"Vote blue, no matter who" might be the slogan of the year... we'll soon find out...

[17] -

I finally figured out where M was coming from -- there are internal Trump polls which apparently show African-American support as high as 40%.

"BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!" is what I have to say to those "internal polls," but at least it has some sort of basis in (fantastical, self-reinforcing) reality.

If Trump tops 5% of the Black vote, that would downright STUN me, at this point.

Heh.

-CW

. . . if only.