if forced to choose, i'd take your memory over most people's hard evidence

That's not how the force works!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiFck6h6VaA&feature=youtu.be

I am not whining. I am pointing out your bullshit.

You are a whiny effing troll; you always have been.

The posts prove it.

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/07/08/trump-sabotaging-gop-efforts-to-boost-mail-in-voting/#comment-163303

^^^^^^^^^^ Yes, the posts prove it. ^^^^^^^^^^

[54] Chris Weigant wrote:

Don Harris [49] -

Yes. You are a troll. Deal with it....

And we're ALL way beyond getting tired of it.

Is that clear enough?

-CW

[Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 at 16:05 UTC]

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That "we" CW was talking about included me. So kindly please take your "OneDamnMan" (props to Russ) and stick it in your troll hole. :)

So you can't defend your idea at all? Not even slightly? I'm not trying to fool you. I'm trying to see if I can get you to think.

if forced to choose, i'd take your memory over most people's hard evidence

Can you show a real world example of the return on investment?

Can you produce any such legislation? Of course not.

I'm sure I could and would if it was an issue I found valuable. All it requires is research.

That is just you desperately trying to discredit a logical approach because you have no rational argument against it.

One Demand is a half assed extremely illogical approach which I have criticized before only to get dismissive replies from you. Money flows to need like water to gravity, and voluntary measures with no verification just do not work.

Voting for big money Dems and Republicans has not worked for decades.

Really? In what way? There are certainly problems in the USA but it's still the most powerful economy, military and cultural powerhouse of the world. It's pretty obvious something is working. Can you articulate what is not?

I have provided plenty of information and trends that show One Demand could work.

Well, accept that voluntary measures with no verification just do not work...

If you make a rational argument you will get a rational response. If you continue to spew bullshit I will point it out.

I have many times early on in your crusade and all I got was dismissive copy pasta, as has just about everyone else here. That is why you are labeled troll. What is the end game of your idea? If you can not articulate that, then you have half an idea that is destined to failure. Keep in mind rational argument is not just agreeing with you.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

Heh. :)

I think it goes like this:

"reality-based politics," not Utopia or some fantasyland where unicorns fart rainbows and the pixies frolic in the meadow.

~ CW

Or something very close to that (just going by memory).

Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

Doesn't make it false either. It's my opinion, and I'm entitled to post it.

Nothing in your posts about me is factual.

So your name isn't Don Harris? That's in my post, dumb ass. See it up there?

It is only your opinion/spin and that opinion/spin is not backed up by anything factual.

Your projection is delicious and applies equally to your repetitive bullshit.

How does his conscience reconcile taking big money contributions when he doesn't have to?

Maybe it's the same way your conscience reconciles your trolling of this forum when you don't have to.

Biden is defined by his actions.

So are you.

He takes big money contributions and is defined by that.

You troll the forum and are defined by that.

Please explain why that deserves a red card (or even a yellow card) and the bullshit dodges, false accusations and being called a blowhole, shit heel. etc. are okay.

Please pound sand. "Blowhole" and "shit heel" are okay for the same reason you believe it is okay for you to curse repeatedly at CW and troll everyone on the forum by twisting our comments to suit your agenda.

Zevon again

You run the same shtick every time. You postulate your position as though it is accepted, but it's really not. Can you back up your argument even slightly? Can you point to actual legislation that Biden did or did not pass because of big money? How would Biden's legislative agenda be different if he had a low donation campaign? It's cute to toss around accusations but you have to back them up. You seem to think getting money out of politics is the singular and only path to a utopia of rainbows and unicorns but never describe what that utopia looks like.

Awesome endorsement. How did I miss seeing this? Well, no matter; thank you for posting it.

EM: You will definitely want to read it.

I need cherry pie now, and that's on you! ;)

What you said... that I said. :)

I did not hijack anything.

Not for want of trying multiple times.

I posted my opinion.

You posted your monomania unrelated to the posts you attempted to hijack for your own personal crusade.

You only complain about me posting my opinion because you can't make a rational argument.

My opinions about your trolling are both factual and quite rational.

Any time you or anyone wants to have a real discussion of One Demand or my comments referring to it I will engage in such a discussion. When all you do is post bullshit I will point it out if I want to.

Therein lies the problem. You endeavor to take the author's blog and his readers' commentary and attempt to hijack unrelated political discussion and morph it into a discussion about your monomaniac personal crusade that no one wants to discuss because after five years of this bullshit, we're done with it.

Your attempted hijacking of a political discussion into your personal crusade keeps arising repeatedly for two reasons:

* You won't stop trolling unrelated political discussion with the goal of hijacking it into your crusade.

* I'm done just ignoring things and expecting them to just disappear on their own, something I learned recently from SARS-CoV-2 and its resultant COVID-19.

In the mean time I will continue to post my opinion and will persist until I get a real discussion from CW on this issue.

You will continue to troll the forum.

CW is a public figure and there is nothing wrong with being persistent in getting a public figure to back up what they write/say or address an issue.

By punishing him and his readers for years on end with your endless repetitive spew when you've been asked not to do it? No thanks.

You only got part of the scarecrow reference.

You have absolutely no idea what "I got." Me choosing not to ignore you and me addressing every single bullshit utterance that flies out of your repetitive blowhole are two entirely different things. :)

although it may well be the case for some politicians (hence the widespread belief in the need for campaign finance changes), biden has long demonstrated that he is neither defined nor controlled by the political donations he accepts. he is controlled by his own conscience, and he is defined by the cherry pie he shared with Carol Moseley Braun.

(note to liz: you'll want to see this link)

https://www.ebony.com/news/opinion/joe-biden-is-the-ally-champion-and-fighter-we-need-in-2020/

but none of that has anything to do with whether or not robert kennedy would have defeated richard nixon and gone on to be a good president.

and it certainly has nothing to do with your own demands. if your goal is to win support for your cause, i don't think calling people brainless and their disagreements with you bullshit is the way to go. however, if your goal is a 'red card' and permanent removal from this site, you seem to be on the right path.

best of luck.

This may be a Comments section party foul but Kick said it so well that I'm reposting it in bold.

Don Harris

No one is scared of your shit, Don.
Sick of it? Yes!
Scared of it? *laughs*

Dude. You quoted John M's post about Robert Kennedy and tried to hijack the political conversation into a discussion about your personal crusade.

Before that, you had quoted Elizabeth Miller's post at [6] about Joe Biden and tried to hijack that political question and turn it into a discussion about your personal crusade.

Your shit has been discussed for -- what(?) -- five effing years now? Five years of your shit wherein you interrupt actual political discussion in order to hijack the conversation to make it about your own shit.

No one is scared of your shit, Don.
Sick of it? Yes!
Scared of it? *laughs*

JFC was completely wrong in his assessment as are you.

Oh, really?

Just because you or anyone labels me a troll does not mean it is true.

You are definitely a troll.

The posts here prove otherwise.

The posts here are several instances of you taking people's posts and interrupting their opinions in order to twist their words and turn them into a discussion about your personal bullshit.

You are a troll, mister, and a blowhole.

Now eff right off.

Spot the Troll

The reality blog scenario game show where you are presented with a real discussion and asked to identify the person who disrupted the political dialogue occurring in the comments section -- a.k.a "the troll" -- from your choice of participants listed in bold... so spot the troll.

Real Discussion: So a few posters on this forum were having a nice political discussion about where America went off the rails. Ms. Elizabeth stated she thought the slide began with the assassination of President Kennedy, whereupon Mr. John (no relation to President Kennedy) astutely opined that he believed the turning point was the day Robert Kennedy, John's brother -- not our Mr. John's brother but rather the brother of Mr. Kennedy -- Mr. Kennedy, that is Robert, of course, was killed. Mr. John asked with wonder where we would be if Mr. Kennedy -- Robert, of course -- had been elected president instead of that dick, Dick Nixon. Whereupon Mr. Blowhole quoted a piece of Mr. John's question to a completely different poster not named him and twisted his meaning and then a few posts later quoted Mr. John again about Mr. Kennedy -- Robert, not John -- and then wondered aloud where we would be now if we had started his personal political venture One Demand in 2015?

Spot the troll, is it:

(a) Ms. Elizabeth
(b) Mr. John
(c) Mr. Blowhole

If citizens are not informed the opportunity is available they can't discuss the idea to decide if they want to participate.

I dare say, you've informed this comments section quite thoroughly by now.

How about commenting about Chris's work product? Or joining in the various debates that occur here in Weigantia?

You asked me on a previous post if I knew of any examples of white people dying in similar fashion to George Floyd’s death while in police custody and I have to say, “No, I do not.”

That does not mean that they do not exist, but honestly the media doesn’t bother reporting when a white person dies from a medical emergency while in custody. They are quick to log their deaths under their “People the police murdered” files, but they don’t report those until the end of the year.

As for Floyd’s death, after talking to a friend who is now a medical examiner in a small town in AL, I believe that Floyd’s screaming that he was not able to breathe was us witnessing him dying from the cardiopulmonary arrest (aka V-fib) as it occurred. As my friend pointed out, V-fib is something that you see in people who have had lots of medical problems over a long period of time that all lead up to it eventually killing the person. For healthy individuals, it is not something that is triggered by pinching the right nerve or even being place in a true chokehold; it is what occurs after the body has deteriorated to the point that multiple systems just start to fail. Because difficulty breathing does not cause, but is itself a symptom of being in V-fib, it is not likely that allowing Floyd to sit up would have helped him too much. It would have made the officer not look like such an uncaring, arrogant dick if they would have tried that, but it is unlikely Floyd was going to survive at that point.

I do know the difference- you don't. Or at least pretend you don't just to stroke your own ego.

So then. You seem quite content to prove that JFC pegged you exactly right in his assessment at [75].

The poor trolls on this board; it just isn't fair how they're always the ones who are the victims of everyone else around here. I mean, it's just not fair when the people they troll and troll and troll and troll and spam and spam and spam and spam and troll and spam and troll with the same repetitive shit over and over and over... year in and year out... why can't everyone else just stop whining about it and leave the poor trolls alone?

Now there is a rational mature argument.

Oh, it's supremely not fair... we know. Where can a troll go these days to have a "rational mature argument" of trolling everyone with the same shit over and over year in and year out? Whatever is a troll to do?

The kind that makes this place the place it is.

It happens to all the trolls around here, you know. They're just too good for the rest of us. It's not fair at all. Makes you ponder life and whether to be, or not to be, that is the question... whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing end them. To die, to sleep, no more... and by a sleep to say we end the heartache and the thousand natural shocks that flesh is heir to. 'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep, to sleep, perchance to dream — aye, there's the rub. For in that sleep of death what dreams may come when we have shuffled off this mortal coil.

I mean, it must be pure Hell for you poor trolls.

Sorry, but while YoungLife in an international organization, it had been around for over 35 years when I first got involved. Starting something like you are suggesting is an undertaking outside of my pay level.

But if I had to guess, I do not think your idea is completely outside the realm of possibility. Swing states are most east of the strongest secure blue states, so it would be easy for Democrats to tell whether 3rd Party supporters had cast their votes for Biden to know whether they lived up to their part of the deal.

Now the real question would have to be are there enough 3rd party voters in swing states to even attempt this. I have not bothered to investigate this, so I dunno. I am guessing Reddit would be the best place to attempt starting this dialogue...because I do not know where else you might find 3rd Party folks except there.

Maybe he'll surprise me on this ... stranger things have already happened.

And, if he said he is going to do something then he will damn sure do it!

Or offer him a glass of water.

Heh.

We all do advertise our personal opinions in the comments section. That is the purpose of a comments section.

No one can help you if you don't know the difference between political discussion and political advertising.

If you can post your personal opinion that is not based on any reality that I am trolling or doing something inappropriate that no one else is doing then I can post my opinion that is backed up by reality that your opinion is not reality.

Throw up. Own up. Fed up.
Shit heel.

Or offer him a glass of water.

LL&P

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They did just send Cohen back.

Wow, that was easy. Who's next?

Roger Stone... pack your shit! ;)

Don, FFS!

You have been trolling this blog with this shit for years and promised to troll until you get an answer.

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/03/19/dare-trump-to-face-the-press/#comment-117762

You've got your answer to stop doing it.

Enough already!

Don,

Chris Weigant is a Democrat. He is obviously supportive of them and writes talking points for them. He is not going to help you with your little dead-end, anti-Democrat vanity project. It’s OBNOXIOUS for you to continue to badger him about it on his private blog and the rest of us are bored through and through with your predictably repetitive spam. Your only accomplishment here is that you’ve exposed yourself as an obsessive-compulsive troll. Now, I was more than willing to leave all of that alone and scroll right past you until you decided to troll me personally by taking my comments and twisting them into something I had never said to suit your bizarre crusade. Too fucking bad if you don’t like my response to your trolling. Self-pity and whining only makes you more insufferable.

Grow up. Wake up. Shut up.
Get bent.

~ John From Censornati

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Funny. A short while ago you denied and now you're going to ask for details. I won't be going any further down the rabbit trhole with you.

I like it. Heh.

"Who was that morbidly obese masked man?"....

According to the "Lone Ranger," it was "Diaper Don":

https://twitter.com/armiehammer/status/1278479477270552577

"I don't know - but he left this piece of coal."

See there! ;)

The Orange Queen is already tweet-puking this morning. He's lost these tax disclosure cases at every level and is apparently expecting that leftist John Roberts to harass him again.

No citizen, not even the President, is categorically above the common duty to produce evidence when called upon in a criminal proceeding.

~ Chief Justice John Roberts

Poor Donald, both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh joined Roberts and the liberal justices in the 7-2 decision.

Winning!

Hey, John... I hear Donald wins a new mural today to celebrate. It's that "big, expensive, yellow Black Lives Matter sign" that Trump was so "excited" about.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09/us/trump-tower-black-lives-matter-mural-new-york-trnd/index.html

Who's going to break the news to "The Donald" that paint isn't expensive!?

Trump is now screwed, and he knows it.

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Start spreading the news
I'm leaving today
I want to be a part of it
New York, New York.
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We already have a troll with a martyr routine. It really isn't working for you. Hold those arms out wider.

This!

Can you imagine where we would be now if we had started One Demand in 2015 and the 2016 and 2018 elections had set up a base demanding small donor only candidates for the 2020 elections?

Can you imagine how utter nonsensical it is for you to continue prattling on and on about this when you were already asked repeatedly to stop trolling this forum with your personal advertisements?

Do you want to repeat the same mistake in 2020 so the same question can be asked again in 2024?

If you keep this up when you were already asked repeatedly to stop trolling this forum with it, I would wager you won't have to worry about repeating your "same mistake" for very much longer.

Maybe if we all advertised our personal stuff in the comments section of CW's advertisement-free blog, it would soon be obvious how intolerable it would be.

That sounds great. It would be enough to make me vote for him if I believed he'd really do those things.

Has he unequivocally committed to making those changes Liz?

Denying what you did.

I do offer the solution which is One Demand.

Objective reality says that is nothing more than your delusion. How many people have you recruited while you've beaten that dead horse for years?

I learned more about Joe Biden's stance on pot in this POLITICO article.

Amid the criticism that Biden hasn’t taken a definitive stance on legalization, it’s easy to lose track of how far ahead he is of any other major-party presidential nominee in history in terms of changing marijuana policy. He’d decriminalize use, which would mean fines instead of jail time, and move to expunge records for using. He’d remove federal enforcement in states that have legalized the drug. That’s further, by far, than Donald Trump, or Barack Obama, has gone. Biden would move marijuana off as a Schedule 1 narcotic, the same category as heroin, but would not take it off the illegal-drugs schedule entirely, so that federal law would treat it the way it does alcohol or nicotine.

Kay lie McEnany ran away on Wedsnesday as a reporter asked her: If it is safe for kids to go to school, is it safe for Paul Manafort to go back to prison?

That goes equal for Mikey Cohen too!

Lock him up... more. :)

Great post! Exactly this!

Can someone please explain to me, like I'm a six-year-old, how it is that only 79% of Democrats support Biden this close to the presidential election.

Like you're six? Okay, but you asked for it.

Seems to me that this bodes rather well for Trump, no?

It's late, you're confused and upset and need a ride home, and the only two people available at the time are your nice Uncle Joe whom you're not overly fond of and your creepy Uncle Donald who molests you like you're an American flag and pats you on the ass like you're his grown daughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZA6qiJVfU

Who's going to drive you home? ;)

you have no rational arguments against the points I make.

Yeah, we do. You are not the answer to the problem.

BTW - adding lies to your routine is really special.

(1) take away their money, and especially, (2) take away their freedom.

Trump has been so toxic to America that, if he doesn't get what he truly deserves it will be an intolerable example of yet another time where you can literally kill thousands (see George W's invasion of Iraq because, "[After 9-11, we wanted to kick somebody's ass," ) and buy your way out of trouble.

Chris Weigant is a Democrat. He is obviously supportive of them and writes talking points for them. He is not going to help you with your little dead-end, anti-Democrat vanity project. It’s OBNOXIOUS for you to continue to badger him about it on his private blog and the rest of us are bored through and through with your predictably repetitive spam. Your only accomplishment here is that you’ve exposed yourself as an obsessive-compulsive troll. Now, I was more than willing to leave all of that alone and scroll right past you until you decided to troll me personally by taking my comments and twisting them into something I had never said to suit your bizarre crusade. Too fucking bad if you don’t like my response to your trolling. Self-pity and whining only makes you more insufferable.

Grow up. Wake up. Shut up.
Get bent.

Trump as "The Lone Deranger"

Horses name: Grifter (As in "Hi Ho Grifter!")

Non-Caucasian sidekick: Herman Cain

Standard ending:

"Who was that morbidly obese masked man?"....

"I don't know - but he left this piece of coal."

Offering you advice on how to improve your exceedingly repetitive boring trolling is not demonizing you but, like I said, hold those arms out wider.

But, CW, Trump did just recently decide that he's now "all for masks" during an interview on Fox Business:

I'm all for masks. I think masks are good....

I mean, I'd have no problem. Actually, I had a mask on. I sort of liked the way I looked, okay? I thought it was okay. It was a dark black mask, and I thought it looked okay. It looked like the Lone Ranger, but, no, I have no problem with that, I think, and if people feel good about it, they should do it.

~ Donald Trump, July 1, 2020

https://www.axios.com/trump-coronavirus-disappear-cac3b50f-14f5-435a-932b-32e61f448554.html

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Well now, how about that visual? Donald Trump wearing his black mask over his eyes just like the Lone Ranger. Did no one think to cut some holes in the thing?

I will say, though, it is quite the perfect metaphor for Trump and his administration's incompetence in their handling of the entire coronavirus issue where "at some point that's going to sort of just disappear."

We already have a troll with a martyr routine. It really isn't working for you. Hold those arms out wider.

I don't know why so many feel so free to belittle people they disagree with but, ignoring them and not responding in kind is the best practice.

Can you imagine where we would be now if Robert Kennedy had been president instead of Nixon, and the end of the Vietnam War, Watergate and the Iran hostage crisis had either never happened or not happened the way they did?

I most certainly can and, often have spent many a day wondering about just that.

I was at the candlelight vigil and Mass for Courage and Reconciliation for Robert Kennedy at his gravesite on June 6, 1993, 25 years after his death. I'll never forget it or him.

"America began her slide on the day that they killed President Kennedy. From that moment until now, while progress has been made toward a better union, so much more progress is needed."

Actually I think the real turning point was the day Robert Kennedy was killed. I think that's when America really stumbled and lost some hope for the future. Can you imagine where we would be now if Robert Kennedy had been president instead of Nixon, and the end of the Vietnam War, Watergate and the Iran hostage crisis had either never happened or not happened the way they did?

"Do you think all the violence and cop killings and cop hate and destroying America culture and looting and burning is the best way that your Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party can attract Americans and their votes??

Serious question..."

Serious answer: YES. Since polls show at least 60 percent of both Americans in general and self identified Independents as well, support both the Black Lives Matter Movement and disapprove of Trump's handling of race relations.

Also: The way you framed your question was biased, inaccurate, wrong, and designed to be inflammatory. In reality, there has been very little violence in over 90 percent of the protests, which is rather remarkable.

The real question that begs an answer is why are you insisting on casting a slur on your fellow Americans for the simple exercise of their constitutional rights simply because you disagree with them? Are you simply incapable of disagreeing with someone without demonizing them?

obviously it wasn't done very well.

you have some experience at organizing projects on the national level, how would such an undertaking as a peer to peer vote-swapping service be set up?

organize a vote-trading campaign between democrats in solid blue/red states and leftists/socialists in swing states. i'm just spitballing here, not sure quite how such a campaign would be organized, how participants would be vetted for sincerity, etc., but in states where the margin of victory is less than ten thousand votes it seems like the kind of thing that might make an impact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote_trading#United_States_presidential_elections

and if those stubborn socialists won't trade their votes for someone else's votes, perhaps they'd accept pie. it had to come back to pie at some point, right?

JL

well said and very much worth pointing out

projection, projection, I won't be fooled by projection!

In the case of trump he registered to vote in Florida using Mar-a-swampago which is classified as a business and violates not just florida law, which stipulates that you cannot register to vote from a business address, but also his deal with Palm Beach that in exchange for tax benifits he agrees not to live at Mar-a-swampago. He further commited the act of "ballot harvesting" by having a representative of the FL GOP committee deliver his ballot and return it directly to the Palm Beach county voting office.

In the case of pence he registered to vote using the Indiana Governors Mansion as his address of residence, which given that he is no longer governor and it is occupied by the current governor is on it's face fraudulent. Did he not hold onto a residence for when he was voted out of the office (or left on his own)? In either case it is clear he does not reside at the governors mansion any longer thus making his registration fraudulent.

In the case of Kayleigh she has not only voted by absentee 10 out of the last 11 times she has used her parents address in Tampa when in fact she was living in NJ according to drivers license and vehicle registration records. Interestingly NJ only grants DL's to residents. So again as in the case of trump and pence she submitted fraudulent voter registration information, again against FL law.

Normally I would not give two shits about these discrepancies as I do not think that the intent is nefarious ( for the record I ordered a case of "shits to give" on last years prime day and I am still waiting, they are on back-order). However, if you are going to get on a fucking high horse about how the other side cheats via mail in voting, one should make sure that ones house is clean.

I haven't even mentioned the others in the administration that have also voted via their LEGAL right to vote via absentee ballot. Some of which have been doing it out of convenience and others because they are "working".

If it wasn't for the fact that the GOP is raising such a stink about mail in voting I probably would not comment...but... they are and I think that their trespasses in the absentee voting world should be pointed out in any discussion as it drive home the point that the GOP is the party of Gen ME, as in tis for me but not for thee.

Whatever the SDNY wishes to prosecute Trump for, it all pales in comparison to the number of Americans who have died or gotten sick because of the action and inaction of this president, after all.

Chris, you can go ahead and delete [40], please and thank-you.

I think ultimately Trump is looking for some kind of deal where he surrenders the presidency (without trying to stoke a Civil War) in exchange for not having the face SDNY after he's out of office.

Perhaps. Though, these days, anything is possible.

That's too bad ... but, you see my Canadian predicament, too. Far less choice, in other words.

We don't actually vote directly for the prime minister. We only vote for the member of national parliament in our respective ridings - 400 of them, give or take across the country. The leader of the party that gets the most of its members elected is the prime minister.

I'm talking only about the meaningful votes, of course.

I'm not at all bothered by the heat. :)

"Man, it's a hot one, like seven inches from the midday sun."

Don't frak it up!

Is that understood!?