Either cut this fellow off or say goodby to the likes of me who am just insulted and therefore moving on to less shrill narratives.

If their department doesn’t allow knee to neck, then Chauvin is done for. My argument has always been based on the belief that they were using state approved restraint maneuvers... so I just wasted three days sounding like an asshat. Beautiful! Gonna go drink until I remember some repressed memories...ya’ll have a good one!

I would wager Russ will just love us both for all the homework we just gave him.

Well, it is for his own good, is it not? ;)

Nicholas Kristof has an new column up - or it will be soon - talking about when it's right to "defund the police". He doesn't like that term.

I thought you might want to check it out and perhaps make a comment or two on it. Kristof has been known to often engage with his readers …

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/opinion/defund-police-floyd-protests.html?campaign_id=45&emc=edit_nk_20200611&instance_id=19292&nl=nicholas-kristof&regi_id=22515649&segment_id=30624&te=1&user_id=571c3be725d6b0ef871fd6e259864d6a

I was unaware of that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-investigation.html

Video evidence. Minnesota allows that maneuver -- banned across America -- only in certain circumstances, and this didn't fit the description. Also, the bystanders had to convince the officers to check Mr. Floyd's pulse. At one point, Chauvin threatened the bystanders with mace.

I was unaware of that. I would hope that their agency requires that officers begin CPR as soon as possible (except in cases where there are gunshot wounds to the victim), but many departments do not require officers to act as medical first responders. They just wait for the medics to arrive. If their SOP required Chauvin to act, them this is where negligence would be argued against Chauvin, and rightly so.

Why are so many here still "bending the knee" as an act fealty to the big money interests?

It's time instead to take a knee.

Does it surprise anyone that the board beggar thinks everyone should "take a knee"? I would wager it doesn't, and I have a better idea:

It's past time for Don Harris to get up off both of his knees and stop pumping another man to shill for his failed and pathetic attempt at political activism because he quite literally is sucking mightily at it. *laughs*

I just hope police all over have learned the lesson that great care needs to be taken when restraining people and it would be nice if they could acknowledge that learning.

Do you know what would save even more lives? If we discussed why people who resist arrest should be held accountable for what their decision to resist results in. The officers do take great care in restraining people by using non-lethal techniques. Over 12 officers were brought in to compel Eric Gardner to comply — Going to great lengths to be able to force compliance with each officer having to use the least amount of force necessary to accomplish that goal. Despite their best effort, Gardner died. Forcing the police to use physical force to get you to comply can result in unintended deadly repercussions and people do not want to acknowledge this.

Hearing the black community claiming that Michael Brown was murdered by police and making a martyr out of him only serves to condemn more young black men to death! If they are being made to believe that Brown attempting to disarm a police officer was an acceptable action for Brown to take and that the police were wrong to respond with deadly force; then we can count on more officer involved shootings of young black men occurring.

I can imagine, Kick, the hard work involved over many years for Texas to get to this point. Thank-you for your part in it!

Oh, my pleasure... and we're not finished by a long shot. I expect we'll flip TX-23 in 2020, Will Hurd's district. Y'all know Will Hurd?

Congressman Will Hurd joins Black Lives Matter march in Houston

On June 2, Congressman Will Hurt R-TX joined a Black Lives Matter march in Houston and posted this statement on Twitter, “I’m in Houston marching in solidarity with George Floyd's family. We are showing you can be outraged by a black man getting murdered in police custody, thankful for our First Amendment rights and angered that people are looting and rioting, which goes against our American values.”

In a video on Twitter Hurd added, “We can be thankful law enforcement is enabling our First Amendment rights and we can be pissed that some stupid people are looting and rioting which goes against our American values. I’ve been worried that maybe I’ve been wrong about one of my core beliefs, core values that way more unites us that divides us. But that belief is only strengthened by what I’ve seen here today. I will always believe in an America that can come together and accomplish anything because we have done it so many times before. God Bless You.

https://www.bigbendgazette.com/stories/blog-post-title-one-4dffm-bg33l-gcf4x-7ya53-bp3rs-blp5m-297b7-5l52b-lm332-pxksw

Mike is correct that black Americans are leaving in droves, he's just totally wrong about which Party they're leaving. Will Hurd, the only remaining African American member of the House on the GOP side is retiring so TX-23 is up for grabs and will likely be a huge chunk of Texas turning Blue.

We have a very large spatula, and we aim to turn it.

And he was right... but I have to believe that Rev. Al did not take it far enough. I would guess that Officer Chauvin would have removed his knee from Floyd’s neck if he ever believed Floyd would die under his knee. If any of the officers thought Floyd could die from them using non-lethal holds on him, they would have gotten off him.

The rookies were following the orders of the training officer. Rookie Lane tried to get Chauvin to ease up, but he refused to do so and refused on multiple occasions. Lane is out on bail now.

How would we think about this incident —Floyd’s screaming and crying that he was dying — if he had been fine when the medics arrived and the officer’s allowed him up? Would we think the officers were depraved and inhuman for ignoring his calls if those holds were shown to not have been choking him that entire time?

Russ, please remember that one of the officers informed the training officer with his knee on Mr. Floyd's neck that Mr. Floyd had no pulse. Whereupon Chauvin did what, Russ? He did nothing and continued to hold the man down after being informed he had no pulse and was not moving.

Back to your question. No, I don't think the officers were depraved and inhuman. I actually think this was an issue of the training officer being more concerned about showing the rookies who was boss and less concerned about Mr. Floyd.

Might I be incorrect? Yep, and I definitely need more evidence by way of testimony.

More evidence... bring it. :)

I just hope police all over have learned the lesson that great care needs to be taken when restraining people and it would be nice if they could acknowledge that learning.

Music to my ears! :)

Me too, EM. There are a lot of people who worked hard to make it happen, and now it's here.

And while Texas may not flip in 2020, the GOP is going to have to defend it, and that fact right there tells you everything you need to know.

When Texas flips, it's over for the GOP (as we know it). Watch Georgia too. It'll be a "marker" when it flips too.

Of course he isn't and, neither am I!

I knew that. Me too... neither! :)

And he was right... but I have to believe that Rev. Al did not take it far enough. I would guess that Officer Chauvin would have removed his knee from Floyd’s neck if he ever believed Floyd would die under his knee. If any of the officers thought Floyd could die from them using non-lethal holds on him, they would have gotten off him.

How would we think about this incident —Floyd’s screaming and crying that he was dying — if he had been fine when the medics arrived and the officer’s allowed him up? Would we think the officers were depraved and inhuman for ignoring his calls if those holds were shown to not have been choking him that entire time? I’m guessing that Floyd would be mocked and the police officers patted on the back for seeing through the whining.

I cannot help but think about the definition of Insanity - doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. We obviously believe officers should be insane if we think that they should have known that they were killing Floyd with the actions they have done over and over and always with the same non-lethal result!

Exactly every word that Russ said!

Great post.

Michale,

Like the "white backlash" the author is, once again, lying.. Or, to be perfectly fair (as I am wont to do) she is drawing the wrong conclusion from the data-set in order to myopically serve her twisted view of reality..

Well, if anyone would know what that would look like, it would definitely be you!

But I would point out that, by and large, there is hardly any "bad behavior" by Police... In the 16 +/- years I have been in Weigantia, there have only been TWO instances of actual police misconduct..

I have seen more than two just in videos of the police reacting to protesters today. There are plenty of video showing officers allowing the protesters’ words to get the best of them and they snap. It is disappointing to see officers not able to control their anger over words.

Like the "white backlash" the author is, once again, lying.. Or, to be perfectly fair (as I am wont to do) she is drawing the wrong conclusion from the data-set in order to myopically serve her twisted view of reality..

Well, if anyone would know what that would look like, it would definitely be you!

But I would point out that, by and large, there is hardly any "bad behavior" by Police... In the 16 +/- years I have been in Weigantia, there have only been TWO instances of actual police misconduct..

I have seen more than two just in videos of the police reacting to protesters today. There are plenty of video showing officers allowing the protesters’ words to get the best of them and they snap. It is disappointing to see officers not able to control their anger over words.

If you say so.. :D

You quoted yourself, moron, and you're hands down the least informed person on the board who has definitely drank the right-wing Bullshit flavored Kool-Aid.

Then you quote yourself and regurgitate the Bullshit flavored Kool-Aid here on another man's forum. #SSDD

Indeed.

Yes! Yes! Yes!

But, I don't think Biden is with me on this. :(

He is capable of evolving, though. :)

That's a very good point.

Music to my ears! :)

Of course he isn't and, neither am I!

Police should not be called to involuntarily commit people suffering from mental problems...they are not trained to deal with people who may be mentally unable to properly follow lawful commands. We have defunded state mental facilities all over this country, and left it to the police to deal with them. Now, our prisons are filled with mentally ill individuals who should be “patients” and not “prisoners”.

Let’s stop funding the war on drugs! Again, this is a social and medical issue and should not be a criminal one. We blame the police for doing their jobs, as if they get to pick and choose how the laws are to be enforced.

No one wants to defund the police from protecting their communities and properly enforcing the laws of our states. That is just ridiculous.

I'm not on the left, I'm not on the right.

Hey, me too!

I'm in the middle with Joe Biden on defunding the police. Come join us!

Joe Biden isn't actually for "defunding the police," at least according to Joe Biden. This is just one of those pesky semantics issues for dang sure.

Hey, EM, I believe Donald Trump has received the message loud and clear that he's going to have to fight for Texas in 2020. It'll cost the GOP a lot of money that they're definitely not used to spending here... starting tomorrow. Heh.

The military GOT huge pay raises under President Trump.. Much more so than under Obama...

Bullshit! You're correcting Russ again when he is 100% correct. Donald Trump told the troops he got them a 10% pay raise... even told them he had fought hard for it and insisted on it. Trump lied lied lied lied lied -- as per his usual modus operandi -- right to their faces.

They just were not keeping up with the times.. But the pay raises were put in place..

Military pay increases are determined by a statutory formula, and Trump in fact requested an amount below the automatic adjustment for 2018. It was Congress that overrode Trump's proposal, and Trump ultimately agreed to fully fund the increase that he had tried to lowball.

FACT: Military pay increases are determined by a statutory formula under federal law.

Trump also lied when he claimed on May 9, 2018:

And, by the way, I know you don’t care about this, but that also includes raises for our military. First time in 10 years. ~ Donald Trump

Lie, lie, lie! And then gullible dipshits like Mike believe the utter asinine bullshit when the fact is that military pay increases are determined by a statutory formula and Trump had tried to undercut that formula and was overruled by Congress.

I cannot fathom why dipshits like Mike fall for Trump's repetitive lies, but here we are. Trump lies, and the useful idiots repeat the bullshit over and over and over like idiots on cue. The fact is, the Defense Department actually maintains on its website a list of the annual increases in basic military pay, and any moron with a keyboard can easily check the amounts:

1 January 2008: 3.5%
1 January 2009: 3.9%
1 January 2010: 3.4%
1 January 2011: 1.4%
1 January 2012: 1.6%
1 January 2013: 1.7%
1 January 2014: 1.0%
1 January 2015: 1.0%
1 January 2016: 1.3%
1 January 2017: 2.1%
1 January 2018: 2.4%
1 January 2019: 2.6%
1 January 2020: 3.1%

https://militarypay.defense.gov/Pay/Basic-Pay/AnnualPayRaise/

That 3.4% raise on January 1, 2010, under Barack Obama beats any raise Trump -- meaning Congress and the statutory formula, of course -- has ever given the troops. The pay raises were definitely smaller after that 3.4% under Obama because the United States was in a long recession, which is something that generally happens under Republicans (in my lifetime). Have you heard we're in another recession now that started in February 2020?

You will note that as the recession eased under Obama, there was a 2.1 increase on January 1, 2017, and then under Trump on January 1, 2018, there was a 2.4 increase. Does anyone see the whopping increases that Trump and Mike are claiming? No, you don't because they're bullshit and lies.

Trump followed up 2018 with modest increases of 2.6 in 2019 and 3.1 in 2020, but the fact is none of Trump's increases measure up to the amounts given by Congress under Bush and Obama:

1 January 2008: 3.5%
1 January 2009: 3.9%
1 January 2010: 3.4%

Trump hasn't yet given a single military increase that is higher than those given by Congress under the administrations of either Bush or Obama.

You can stop lying about the huge military pay increases being so much better under Trump because it's bullshit.

Russ is correct about this. Trump flat out lied to a group of soldiers he was addressing that he had insisted on giving them a 10% raise when Congress wanted less. The fact is, at the time Trump was lying about the nonexistent 10% raise, Trump had actually proposed a smaller increase than the one mandated and determined yearly by federal statute, and Congress stepped up and fixed Trump's bullshit.

So to recap: Federal law mandates that military pay raises be equal to the change in the Labor Department’s annual Employment Cost Index, or ECI, for private sector wages.

Anyone telling you about these great big pay increases for the military because of Trump is lying to you. Since 2017, military pay raises have been equal to ECI, and Trump proposed a raise equal to ECI again in 2019 at 2.6 percent, which the president's own fiscal 2019 budget described as "modest."

Oh, yeah ... well, I wasn't referring to you! :)

See ya'all in the morning, bright and early..

Maybe the Democrat Party will want to defund/disband the US military next...

I would NOT be surprised if they actually did that...

See ya'all...

There may be some in need of a lesson, or two, in time-management and comments section reading. I'm just sayin' ...

That's what's unfortunate.. Since I am on a 0lb lift restriction, I have nothing but time.. :D

Abso-frakkin-lutely!

So, it's a purity test for the Democrat Party.. No biggie.. It's not going to come to that.. :D

As of post #69, is it a new record for 51 of the first 69 replies here to be from one poster?

A new record!!??? WOOT!!!!! :D

You can thank the Democrat Party and their moronic defund/disband the police idea for it..

They provide such a target rich environment... :D

Let me rephrase your question:

So, being a person who supports President Trump for re-election is disqualifying for Biden??

Abso-frakkin-lutely!

It’s not surprising that those responsible for the continuing decline of America’s great urban areas would like their constituents to look elsewhere to blame. The attempt to deflect and accuse others for the continuing decline of urban America has been generally successful. After all, why else would cities like Chicago and Minneapolis and Baltimore keep voting in their tormentors?

Get that?? Democrat Party has been in charge in those cities for DECADES...

And yet, after 3+ years, the Democrat Party's story is that it's ALL President Trump's fault!!!???

Are ya kidding me!!???

The Democrat Party must really have a low opinion of the intelligence of black Americans... :eyeroll:

As of post #69, is it a new record for 51 of the first 69 replies here to be from one poster?

Or is the record the 9800 words generated by the one poster compared to the 800 from all the others?

It takes more time to scroll past it all than it does to find and read the one or two posts that actually refer to or comment on Chris' essay. Meaning another abandoned visit to the comments column...

I'd be pretty surprised to see Romney in a Biden administration.

I bet Mitt is angling for that by kissing up to Democrats.. :D

I will say, though, that I'll be very surprised if there are no Republicans - let me rephrase that - if there are no former or non-Trump Republicans in his administration.

So, being a person who supports the President Of The United States is disqualifying for Biden??

Hmmmmm... Not sure how I feel about that..

No, that's not accurate.. I know EXACTLY how I feel about that..

But it matters not... Given all that is happening and all the bone head moves and mistakes the Democrat Party has made in the last few months...

President Trump will be there for at least 4 more years... :D

The arterial message with Democratic crisis voter registration is that it is Republicans who are evil and at fault. All of this is President Donald Trump’s fault, and voting in more Democrats such as former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison is going to, somehow, improve everyone’s lot in life.

But that, of course, is a lie. The cities suffering from the most economic and social injustice are cities that have been controlled by the Democratic establishment for years, and in most cases, for decades.

Get that???

The cities where black Americans suffer the most are the cities where the Democrat Party is in charge for years.. Many for decades!!!

Black Americans are now standing up to the Democrat Party (#WalkAway):

"What have you done for me lately??"
-Janet Jackson

"Er.. uh... hmmm.. uhh eh.....We voted against the Civil Rights Act!!! Oh, no wait.. We shouldn't say that!!!"
-The Democrat Party

The Democrat Party is toast in Nov.... :D

I'd be pretty surprised to see Romney in a Biden administration.

But, I trust Biden, implicitly to form a very competent cabinet. He knows better than any of us what needs to be done.

I will say, though, that I'll be very surprised if there are no Republicans - let me rephrase that - if there are no former or non-Trump Republicans in his administration.

But how has that been working out? Is the suffering endured by people living in cities run by Democrats somehow going to change by voting in more of the same?

How IS that working out for black Americans?? Democrats had a virtual lock on government and even had a black POTUS..

What did they do for black Americans in that time??

ZIP.... ZERO.... ZILCH.... NADA... NOTHING....

Now look what President Trump did in less then TWO YEARS....

Black unemployment was down to it's LOWEST levels...

EVER!!!!!!

Let me repeat that for the cheap seats...

Thanx to President Trump in just TWO YEARS.... Black American Unemployment was at it's LOWEST LEVELS.... EVER...

Prison reform GREATLY benefited black Americans.. Another point in President Trump's favor..

The facts clearly show that President Trump has done more for Black Americans in two short years than Democrats have done... EVER

EEEEEEVVVVV EEEEEERRRRRRRR.......

So, why should black Americans vote Democrat????

Hell, Democrats were even against the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act...

It's clear that while Democrats drag their feet and do NOTHING for black Americans...

President Trump stepped up and REALLY helped black Americans..

These are the FACTS whether ya'all believe them or not...

In the aftermath of Mr. Floyd’s death, millions and millions of corporate dollars are pouring into the Democratic and left-wing establishment “social justice” organizations. Once again, the good intention is to help spur “change” in the inner-city and for people of color in this country after watching, for decades, nothing improves for people in cities such as Chicago, Minneapolis, New York, Baltimore and Detroit.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/10/democrats-exploit-well-meaning-passions-in-cities-/

The Democrat Party is one big con....

As I have said AND provided facts to support...

The Democrat Party is still the racist Party..

Still the Party of slave owners..

Only the plantation has changed...

Huh??

[69] Michale wrote:
And ONLY because I am in such a good mood.. :D

:D hehehehehehehe

You want to try that again?? :D

Well, good for you, dipshit. You've quoted yourself yet again in agreement and informed everyone regarding your belief that Liz and other posters are the entitled ones on another man's blog

If you say so.. :D

Mike
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As you have told Liz so rudely so many times..

"This blog is not yours to police"..

~ Mike

If there WAS a case of someone being able to police this blog, Liz has MUCH MORE authority to so than most anyone else here, sans 2 others...

Well, good for you, dipshit. You've quoted yourself yet again in agreement and informed everyone regarding your belief that Liz and other posters are the entitled ones on another man's blog.

Bless your misguided and ignorant heart. *laughs*

As you have told Liz so rudely so many times..

"This blog is not yours to police"..

~ Mike

If there WAS a case of someone being able to police this blog, Liz has MUCH MORE authority to so than most anyone else here, sans 2 others...

Bless your misguided and ignorant heart. *laughs*

http://sjfm.us/pics/PicardRiker.jpg

:D hehehehehehehe

But a GOP convention!?? Naaww.. Can't have that..

Morons...

GOP expects to move its convention to Jacksonville after dispute with North Carolina over pandemic safeguards
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-expects-to-move-its-convention-to-jacksonville-after-dispute-with-north-carolina-over-pandemic-safeguards/2020/06/09/8c96e088-aaaa-11ea-a9d9-a81c1a491c52_story.html

IN YER FACE DUMBOCRATS!!!!!!

:D

Could today get ANY better!!??? :D

Having said all that, I think Susan Rice would be a good pick but ... :)

Where's he gonna put Willard Rmoney? He's auditioning for something.

I am especially verbose today.. :D

Beyond the fact that I literally have nothing better to do (my wife yells at me when I lift the toilet seat) sometimes the Democrat Party does or promotes something so utterly moronic and stoopid so completely and unequivocally brain dead, I literally can talk about it for hours because there is so much bad that will happen if they succeed......

Unluckily for ya'all, this is one of those times..

SOCIETAL PEACE AND PROSPERITY ARE DEPENDENT ON THE RULE OF LAW, ON THE ORDER THAT THE POLICE UPHOLD

If defund/disband-the-police Democrats are successful in their efforts??

The body count is going to be in the thousands.. The tens of thousands... It will make the covid pandemic look like rays of sunshine by comparison...

On a side note.. It's interesting to note how the Democrat Party has changed it's tune.. Don't hear much whining about covid from them these days..

Just read a study that shows that my blood type offers certain immunities to coronavirus.. :D

Which helps explain how I have been in and out of the hospital and seen doctors galore without catching it.. :D

It would be much better if we came to that realization through common sense than if we allowed history to repeat itself. Societal peace and prosperity are dependent on the rule of law, on the order that police uphold. When that is lost, it takes many years to get it back. The damage wrought in the meantime would be incalculable.

Allow me to repeat that for the cheap seats..

SOCIETAL PEACE AND PROSPERITY ARE

Replacing police forces would not be easy, but wealthier communities have the wherewithal to make alternative security arrangements. They can also avoid working or visiting in high-crime areas.

Exactly. Upper and Middle class white and black Americans won't be harmed by the actions of the defund/disband-the-police Democrats..

They can make minor adjustments to their lifestyles and they will be perfectly fine..

Those lower class mostly black Americans, trapped in the inner cities are going to be sheep lead to slaughter...

The very people that defund/disband-the-police Democrats claim they want to help are going to be the very people that defund/disband-the-police Democrats lead to slaughter...

I don't envy any of those Democrats once the body count starts going up and up and up and up... They are likely to find themselves on the receiving end of such slaughter..

You heard it here first..

Violent crime is on the rise, and was edging steadily up even before the mayhem of these last two weeks. Obviously, that trend is becoming a spike. On Sunday, May 31, there were 18 murders just in Chicago – according to the Sun-Times, the bloodiest day since the University of Chicago’s Crime Lab began keeping data over 60 years ago.

Democrats are pushing to disband PDs and SOs all across the country...

Right at the point where black Americans need the police the most..

Who do you think is going to pay for all the lawlessness and the mayhem and the terrorism???

Middle and Upper class Americans?? Of course not.. They can afford to hire security or get some weapons and training and provide their OWN security..

It's going to be the lower class and the ghettos who are going to suffer.. Do you think gangs (which is already a huge problem in the inner cities) are going to disband along with the police forces???

Of course not.. They are going to run rampant uninhibited by the fact that there are NO COPS...

And it's going to be the elderly and the very young black Americans who are going to be killed in the cross fire..

The Democrat Party has a history replete with bonehead moves and utterly moronic plays..

But this idea of defunding/disbanding police???

The is the most monumentally STOOPID idea from a Party that is TEEMING with stoopid ideas...

*I* don't have to worry.. I live in the country and I am well-armed and well trained..

Inner city dwellers??? It's going to be a massacre...

And it all is going to be laid at the feet of ya'all's Democrat Party...

It's the BLACK AMERICANS who are going to suffer the most...

Andrew McCarthy: Defund the police? Here's what Dems, BLM ignoring about crime

Philosophically, they see policing, prosecution and imprisonment as triggers of crime, rather than deterrents against it. They’ve targeted law-enforcement techniques rather than lawbreakers. They adamantly reject the intelligence-based policing and broken windows policies that have given us a generation of record low crime. They’ve eliminated cash bail, which means mandatory release for nonviolent crimes – with a very elastic definition of “nonviolent.”
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/defund-police-what-dems-blm-ignoring-crime-andrew-mccarthy

Get that???

The VERY people that the terrorist group BLM claim to represent are going to be the VERY people who are hurt most when cops simply pack up and go home..

"Frak, you people.. Yer on yer own.. Call in BLM if you need a police response.."
-Cops

Ironically enough, it's going to be BLM that black Americans need protecting from!!!

How utterly MORONIC are Democrats!!?? They couldn't be more stoopid if they tried...

Biden is his own man, always was, always will be. He will NOT be swayed by anybody. And, that goes double for the media/blogosphere/punditocracy.

I have absolutely no worries about what Biden will do. And, I have to say, it feels wonderful!

All I am saying is that the Trump/America hating mob made Biden's life a lot harder with their demands...

What do you think about my picks for DOD and State?

Must have missed that.. :D

What do you think about my picks for DOD and State?

Biden is his own man, always was, always will be. He will NOT be swayed by anybody. And, that goes double for the media/blogosphere/punditocracy.

I have absolutely no worries about what Biden will do. And, I have to say, it feels wonderful!

Yea, I know..

Sorry about that.. I am a little slow-posting today... I'll try and do better.. :D

The only remaining worry I have is if it becomes a litmus test for activists, and they spurn a presidential candidate like Biden who won’t go that far—yet. But I’ll worry about that later. I’ve finally realized: It’s time for those of us who grew up in the shadow of the Reagan revolution either to shut up and listen, or exit stage left.

Ya see?? Another OUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY Democrat...

The Democrat Party is going to be so fractured and decimated this Nov that President Trump's re-election will be a cake walk...

And I am so confident of my facts, I will make any reasonable (and a LOT of not-so-reasonable :D) wager one wants.. :D

Let's remember a few things about the kind of person Biden has already told us he will pick. Well, I guess we all know it's gonna be a women and I was trying to understand why he did that.

The problem for Biden is now he is going to have to defend his pick more so...

I think it was yesterday's commentary thread where I ask CW to do a commentary about the DEFUND/DISBAND THE POLICE ISSUE..

I commented that I likely made it LESS likely that he will do that because, if he does, he might feel obligated to have to defend his choice more because there will be those who might think that CW did the commentary at my behest..

Of course, you, me, CW (and likely JL) know better.. CW is his own person and whatever I say has absolutely no bearing on CW's actions..

But there will always be whispers...

So it is with this situation.. Biden might feel inclined or pressured to defend his pick more staunchly..

In other words, if Biden DOES pick a black American, there will be those who will say he is being ruled by the Left Wing mob and Biden will feel pressure to more vigorously defend his pick..

Same is true if Biden DOESN'T pick a black American...

Short version is that the Democrat mob just made things harder for Biden, no matter which way he jumps..

My first thought about it was why on earth narrow the choices.

Exactly...

Having said all that, I think Susan Rice would be a good pick but ... :)

Won't happen.. Rice is neck deep in the Obama Administrations actions on spying on the Trump campaign...

She is toxic... Politically speaking, Rice will never rise any higher than she has...

But remember when “Abolish ICE” was going to doom Democrats in 2018? And they took the House?

Like the "white backlash" the author is, once again, lying.. Or, to be perfectly fair (as I am wont to do) she is drawing the wrong conclusion from the data-set in order to myopically serve her twisted view of reality..

It was the platform that allowed the Democrats to win the House..

It was the GOP-esque Democrats running to the right of Political center that allowed Democrats to squeak by and take the House..

That aberration will be corrected this November...

Let's remember a few things about the kind of person Biden has already told us he will pick. Well, I guess we all know it's gonna be a women and I was trying to understand why he did that.

My first thought about it was why on earth narrow the choices. But, then I thought - Biden knows what he's doing infinitely better than I do. And, I've come to think he was right about it.

Though, I would have loved a Biden/Kerry ticket, I guess that's called living in the past. (Maybe secretary of DOD with Bill Burns at State?) And, the more I think about it, the more I think Biden knows what he's doing infinitely better than me.

We also know that he wants someone who he trusts, implicitly. And, he wants someone to whom he can delegate ANYTHING. So, they will have to be sympatico -on the same wavelength, in other words. Biden is nothing if not an internationalist, in the best sense of the word. Whomever he picks will have a very, very similar worldview with a deep understanding of geopolitics.

Having said all that, I think Susan Rice would be a good pick but ... :)

Grrrrrrr...

It WASN'T "white backlash" that led to Nixon's and Saint Ronald Reagan's election....

This author is a liar..

It was "white backlash" that led to Nixon's and Saint Ronald Reagan's election....

It was the FACT that the Democrat Party wholly OPPOSED the legislative victories....

What *IS* it about the Democrat Party that they must LIE and try to rewrite history??

Does the SHAME run THAT deep???

"Anyone?? Anyone?? Buehler??"

But I’ve decided to calm down and trust the wisdom of the activists, as well as some of the leading politicians, who’ve been working on this issue far more closely, and with far more on the line, than I have. There is right now a productive tension between liberalism and radicalism, as well as establishment insiders and activist outsiders, the kind we talk about in history: labor unrest in the 1930s (and earlier) helping to lead to New Deal reforms; civil rights unrest in the ’60s culminating in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/defund-police-reform-liberals/

Again... Remind me again how Liberals are not "serious" about defunding/disbanding police??

It should also be noted that the legislation mentioned at the end there ^^^^..

The Democrat Party opposed that legislation..

Ironic, iddn't it?? :eyeroll:

FACTS are strange things, ain't they.. They know NO political master...

Patti LuPone says 'this country is doomed' amid coronavirus crisis, reveals plans if Trump wins second term

The stage actress, who starred in "War Paint" in 2017, has been self-isolating in Connecticut amid the Broadway shutdown, according to the outlet.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/patti-lupone-country-doomed-coronavirus-crisis-reveals-plans-if-trump-wins-second-te

Dozens, if not hundreds of moronic Trump/America hating "stars" had promised to self-deport if President Trump won in 2016...

Number of so-called "role models" that actually did??

ZERO.. ZILCH.. NADA... NONE..

You wrote: "Americans didn't kneel to British tyranny, Nazi fascism, or Soviet communism."

No they didn't - they fought to be their own country and against the other countries because the idea of America was worth fighting for.

The idea and promise of America, which is what the flag stands for, is still worth fighting for and that sentiment is what is behind taking a knee in the context of America finally breaking free from the scourge of racism and living up to its best ideals.

It’s undeniable that as the former vice president considers one of the most consequential decisions of his White House bid – whom he’ll choose as running mate – the wave of unrest sweeping across America’s cities sparked by Floyd’s death is impacting his decision-making as it elevates the combustible issue of racial injustice.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/calls-for-biden-to-name-a-black-running-mate-grow-louder

Hear that??? Scumbag Trump/America hating Democrats who have been decrying racism for weeks now..

NOW they want Biden to pick a running mate SOLELY based on race.....

Ya'all can see why it's IMPOSSIBLE to take these bigoted morons seriously...

They talk out both sides of their asses and spew nothing but racist hate...

The protesters continued to camp out in a self-declared “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” (CHAZ)-- a region spanning six blocks and encompassing the precinct-- which has effectively been abandoned by law enforcement after the Seattle Police Department closed the East Precinct on Monday.

Antifa terrorists are getting froggy again.. Time to send in the Marines..

Remind me again how Democrats are not "serious" about defunding/disbanding Police???

I seem to have forgotten what with all the FACTS that prove otherwise...

I don't think I am...

Trump/America haters want a show of fealty just as the Nazis did, just as the Russians did, just as the British did hundreds of years ago...

"Bend the knee!!!"
-Left Wingery

NO

But I will be happy to listen to what you think the point is... :D

Which is to say that the idea of defunding or disbanding the police is most decidedly NOT the way to move this, ah, movement forward from the daily protests in the streets.

Agreed...

So we have 2 Shermans...

For the record, I guessed your response. :D

Just for the record, I have no freakin' ideal what Drew Brees's wife said, about anything … okay, pal!?

Allow me.. :D

"I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country. Let me just tell you what I see or what I feel when the national anthem is played, and when I look at the flag of the United States."
-Drew Brees

"WE ARE THE PROBLEM . I write this with tears in my eyes and I hope you all hear our hearts. I have read these quotes and scripture 1000 times and every time I read it and the words sink into my heart. I think yes this is what it’s all about...Only until the last few days ,until we experienced the death threats we experienced the hate… Did I realize that these words were speaking directly to us.. how could anyone who knows us or has had interactions with us think that Drew or I have a racist bone in our body? But that’s the whole point . Somehow we as white America, we can feel good about not being racist, feel good about loving one an another as God loves us. We can feel good about educating our children about the horrors of slavery and history. We can read books to our children about Martin Luther King, Malcolm X., Hank Aaron, Barack Obama, Rosa parks, Harriet Tubman.. and feel like we are doing our part to raise our children to love , be unbiased and with no prejudice. To teach them about all of the African Americans that have fought for and risked their lives against racial injustice. Somehow as white Americans we feel like that checks the box of doing the right thing. Not until this week did Drew and I realize THAT THIS IS THE PROBLEM. To say “I don’t agree with disrespecting the flag “.. I now understand was also saying I don’t understand what the problem really is, I don’t understand what you’re fighting for, and I’m not willing to hear you because of our preconceived notion‘s of what that flag means to us. That’s the problem we are not listening, white America is not hearing. We’re not actively LOOKING for racial prejudice. We have heard stories from men and women we have known and loved for years about the racism that occurred in their lives .. stories that were never shared or talked about because somehow they were considered normal. To all of our friends and anyone we hurt ...we will do better.. We want to do better , we want to HEAR you, and we will fight for you because thinking we are not part of the problem...is checking the box it means we are are not doing enough. It’s our job to educate ourselves. We are sorry"
Mrs Drew Brees

Drew's comments were heartfelt and sincere..

Mrs Drew's comments were political and the result from mob pressure...

You are missing the point, Michale, completely.

Just for the record, I have no freakin' ideal what Drew Brees's wife said, about anything … okay, pal!?

https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/sk060720dAPC20200606024508.jpg

https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/stg060820dAPC20200607044508.jpg

The results of defunding/disbanding the police... :eyeroll:

http://sjfm.us/videos/Raven-1.mp4

Like I said yesterday.. An alternate reality.. :D

White liberals and black politicians focus most of their attention on what the police do, but how relevant is that to the overall tragedy? According to Statista, this year, 172 whites and 88 blacks have died at the hands of police. To put police shootings in a bit of perspective, in Chicago alone in 2020 there have been 1,260 shootings and 256 homicides with blacks being the primary victims. That comes to one shooting victim every three hours and one homicide victim every 15 hours. Three people in Chicago have been killed by police. If one is truly concerned about black deaths, shootings by police should figure way down on one's list -- which is not to excuse bad behavior by some police officers.

Exactly...

But I would point out that, by and large, there is hardly any "bad behavior" by Police... In the 16 +/- years I have been in Weigantia, there have only been TWO instances of actual police misconduct..

TWO... That amounts to 1 incident every 8 years...

As reported, for the first half of 2020, 260 people have been killed by cops.. 172 of those were white people..

Why no outrage??? Why no marching in the streets??? Why no massive protests???

I'll tell you why..

Because "racism" is weaponized and all of the racists are on the Left... Present company excepted, of course...

If Black Lives TRULY matter, why doesn't BLM address the black on black violence that kills 96% of all black deaths in any given year?? THAT is something that is within the people of BLM's control.. THAT is something they can actually do something about...

Why concentrate on the .08% of blacks killed by cops???

Why???

Because Black Lives Matter is a bullshit terrorist/racist organization that doesn't give a rats ass about black lives..

All they care about is power...

Violent crime and poor education is not the only problem for Democratic-controlled cities. Because of high crime, poor schools and a less pleasant environment, cities are losing their economic base and their most productive people in droves. When World War II ended, the population of Washington, D.C., was about 800,000; today, it's about 700,000. In 1950, Baltimore's population was almost 950,000; today, it's around 590,000. Detroit's 1950 population was close to 1.85 million; today, it's down to 673,000. The population of Camden, New Jersey, in 1950 was nearly 125,000; today it has fallen to 74,000. St. Louis' 1950 population was more than 856,000; today, it's less than 294,000. A similar story of population decline can be found in most of our formerly large and prosperous cities. In some cities, the population decline since 1950 is well over 50%, and that includes Detroit, St. Louis, Cleveland and Pittsburgh.

Once again, the FACTS regarding Democrat governance...

Can't make it any plainer and simpler than that.. But, let me try.. :D

When you look at the facts, it's clear why Democrat controlled cities and states are losing citizens by the hundreds of thousands.. Such a mass exodus does't occur in a vacuum.. There are reasons for people wanting to get the hell outta Dodge...

Life is simply unlivable.. Take San Francisco for example..

I mean, honestly... People shitting on the sidewalk!!! Democrat leaders have to create Poop Patrols to clean up human feces on the streets!!!!

How can ANYONE reasonably claim that Democrat governance works...

It's not possible.. There are so many FACTS that simply prove the opposite...

And this is the environment that we are heading into an election..

I am 1000% NOT worried about the polls in the here and now..

It's been well-established that President Trump supporters do not do polls..

So, every poll that is posted is nothing but a polling of Democrats and Trump/America haters.. Even with that fact, President Trump is STILL competitive...

Imagine what the numbers would look like if President Trump supporters actually responded to polls as their Democrat counterparts do..

President Trump's numbers would be through the roof!!!

So yea.. Quote all the polls ya'all want to do... I will simply point out the folly of that by comparing them to the polls in the run up to 2016...

You simply cannot use polls to measure President Trump's success.. It's simply NOT POSSIBLE..

The *ONLY* poll that is relevant is the "poll" that will take place on 3 Nov 2020...

That's what the FACTS tell us...

In 1965, there were no blacks in the U.S. Senate, nor were there any black governors. And only six members of the House of Representatives were black. As of 2019, there is far greater representation in some areas -- 52 House members are black. Nine black Americans have served in the Senate, including Edward W. Brooke of Massachusetts, Carol Moseley Braun and Barack Obama of Illinois, Tim Scott of South Carolina, Cory Booker of New Jersey, and Kamala Harris of California. In recent times, there have been three black state governors. The bottom line is that today's black Americans have significant political power at all levels of government. Yet, what has that meant for a large segment of the black population?
https://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2020/06/10/the-true-plight-of-black-americans-n2570249

The progress that has been made for the black community in the last 50 years has been nothing short of ASTOUNDING...

And when you look at the FACTS behind all the progress made, one FACT stands out..

It's been Republicans who have been at the forefront of helping black Americans..

And it's been Democrats who have fought that progress tooth and nail...

It was Democrats who fought Civil Rights legislation..

It was Democrats who pushed black Americans to become government dependent...

And it was a Republican POTUS, President Donald Trump, who gave black Americans the dignity of succeeding with a hand up, not a hand out...

Which is why the #WalkAway movement is so popular today and growing..

Black Americans are coming to realize who is really trying to help them (Republicans) and who is fighting to keep black Americans enslaved (Democrats)....

As I have said.. Democrats are still trying to be the slave-owners... The plantation simply has changed...

That must be as exhausting as it is sad.

As I have said for quite a while now, since The Journo-List debacle....

The word racism has been so weaponized and tossed around so much without the slightest bit of thought or FACTS to support the claim....

The word is all but meaningless now...

A-frakin'-men to THAT!!!

In fact, I repeatedly apologized, not for my vote, but for her own corrupted intolerance that led her to so hastily vilify me as unworthy of being a rent-paying tenant.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/09/it-must-be-horrible-thinking-everyone-is-racist/

Barring the emotional roller coaster I have been on the last couple months. Ex: Monday on my way home, I heard a news report follow-up on the cops that were ambushed in North California killing one.. I heard that again and I just lost it. Had to pull over and pull myself together..

But, as I said, normally I am usually a very happy VERY CupIsHalfFull kinda guy.. Always see the good and silver lining in anything that comes my way....

Therefore, it is unfathomable to me how anyone could live a life of constant hate and strife and thinking that everyone you talk to who doesn't toe your ideological is a racist... I simply can't fathom why anyone would just want to toss that word around til it loses ALL meaning...

I just can't fathom how someone.. ANYONE could be THAT.... sad... and go thru life that fearful of everything..

It's mind boggling...

"My goodness, people, the arrogance of what you're asking us to help you do is mind-boggling!"
-General Hank Landry, STARGATE SG-1, Continuum

Despite the insistence of the protesters, getting rid of law enforcement won’t usher in a more just or equitable order. But it will invite new arrangements for security, as it did in Mexico. These arrangements, however well-intentioned, will fall prey to the same corruption and unaccountability as the forces they replace, especially if the underlying causes of societal decay are left to fester.

Taking money from training cops and hiring new cops..

Yea. What could POSSIBLY go wrong!?? :eyeroll:

Knowing them as well as I do, I can guess the opinions of a couple others...

So, for those of ya'all who are on the fence about the wisdom of defunding/disbanding the police, a word of warning...

If You Want To Know What Disbanding The Police Looks Like, Look At Mexico

If you want an idea of how that works, look to our southern neighbor, Mexico, where over the past decade endemically corrupt police departments in some areas have been supplanted by autodefensas, or local self-defense militias. But before you get too excited about the prospect of paramilitary autodefensas policing American cities, understand that in Mexico these groups are a mixed bag at best—and at worst they’re not much better than the corrupt local police and cartel gunmen they replaced. More importantly, their mere presence in Mexico was and is a disturbing sign of societal decay.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/09/if-you-want-to-know-what-disbanding-the-police-looks-like-look-at-mexico/

That's the Left's goal.. To turn America into a third world shit hole..

Amazing how life follows art..

If you have, read the novel THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC.. It gives a possible future of America that sounds like today's headlines..

Eerily so...

Americans do not kneel. We stand.

Dear Democrat Party Leadership

Take your ONLY Black Lives Matter and shove it..

**ALL** Lives Matter..

Anything less is the very racism that Democrats have used against Patriotic Americans since they created the KKK...

Fast-forward more than 2,500 years, and we witness a similar scene. This time, the proving ground isn’t in Babylon, but Germany. Instead of our reality, it’s our world as depicted in “The Avengers.”

We don’t applaud the people kneeling in suppression. We feel sorry for them. Loki is the villain, not the hero. The elderly German who resists Loki shows true courage, and he’s saved by the literal personification of America’s values.

A Marvel reference...

Fighting against those who would try and force us to kneel has a noble history and portrayal...

"Bend the knee!!!!"
"FRAK YOU!!!"

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said all the “right” things to the radical leftists holding Guilt Court but was still heckled out of a public square for refusing to defund the police department. The truth is, even mobs tire of the readily subservient and easily obedient.

Give the terrorists and scumbags an inch and they will try and take the entire mile...

So typically Democrat...

They proved it yesterday with that gross pandering stunt with a kente scarf draped around their necks.. I mean, did any of ya'all SEE that!!???

What a choice bit of slobbery pandering that fell flat and cost Democrats a LOT.... :D

I almost feel sorry for Democrats and how they are taking so many punches..

Then I remember how they are laying in a bed of their own making, so then I don't feel so bad.. :D

Those who live in the far north in author George R.R. Martin’s “A Song of Ice and Fire” novels live by one principle: “We do not kneel.” They call themselves the “Free Folk.”

Unfortunately, it’s also moved beyond just kneeling.

Anything that can tie it all in with a couple GAME OF THRONE references is awwww right by me!!!

"BEND THE KNEE!!!!"
"FRAK YOU!!!!"

:D

We won't kneel for a collective guilt movement that's gone off the rails.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/08/be-courageous-stand-firm-america-we-do-not-kneel/

Oooooraaaaa to THAT!!

WE..... DO.... NOT..... KNEEL.....

Chicago suffers deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours

The next-highest murder total for a single day in Chicago was on Aug. 4, 1991, when 13 people were killed.
https://disrn.com/news/chicago-suffers-deadliest-day-in-60-years-with-18-murders-in-24-hours

It would be THAT^^^^ except a hundred times worse...

Defunding/Disbanding the police is one of the MOST dumbest moronic idea Democrats have come up with..

And that is saying something, considering that the Democrat Party is REPLETE with dumb and moronic ideas...

Floyd’s death sparked outrage across the nation – and sympathy around the globe – as African-Americans and others argued it continued a long history of police mistreatment against minorities.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/george-floyds-brother-set-to-testify-as-capitol-hill-lawmakers-consider-police-reform-proposals

The question MUST be asked.

What training or expertise does brother Floyd have that would allow him to talk intelligently before Congress??

Just curious....

When asked by Ingraham whether he thought the firings could have something to do with Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms' standing as a potential running mate for Democrat Joe Biden, LoRusso answered, "I'm sure it comes into play."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/attorney-fired-atlanta-officers-claims-footage-edited

Cops are in Democrats' cross-hairs all across the country...