No one is talking about criminal prosecution. It's about the right of citizens to a reasonable level of confidence that they're not nominating or electing a perpetrator of sexual assault.

OK. What would we need to do to achieve a “reasonable level of confidence” that we are not backing “a perpetrator of sexual assault”?

Looking at Biden’s and Reade’s histories are a good place to start. Biden never had any complaints of sexual harassment or assault brought against him in the decades that he served in Congress. Zero. We know this because he was extremely well vetted before becoming Obama’s choice to run as VP on the 2008 ticket. If there was even the smallest indiscretion to be found, it’s safe to say that the GOP would have brought it forward at the time!

Reade was let go from her job in Biden’s office after only 9 months. Why? We don’t know. Long time members of Biden’s staff either barely remember her time working in the office or have no memory of her at all. Had she been fired for accusing Biden of sexual harassment, it is likely that would be something they would have remembered; especially since she’d have been the first person to make such allegations against him.

I am also saying that he is innocent because Reade waited almost 30 years to report this.

Delayed reporting is normal in such cases. Are you also ready to declare Trump and Weinstein innocent of offenses that weren't reported much later (even though Weinstein was convicted in court)?

You are right. I edited out a large part of my reply and took out more than I meant to.

I agree that it may take victims decades to have the strength and courage to bring forth allegations against their attackers. It may be the first time they say the person’s name since the attack occurred. But Reade’s accusations were not the first time she’s made comments regarding Biden. She had been a fan of his on social media for years... proudly telling the world “that’s my old boss” when Biden made headlines for pushing legislation that helped women reporting sexual harassment in the workplace.

If Kavanaugh’s accuser had been a big supporter of his ruling against those who committed sexual assaults for years but never mentioned that he had assaulted her — she would not have been taken seriously by anyone.

Reade’s story keeps changing details. She never mentioned being assaulted when she talked to reporters two years ago and joined other women who said Biden had been overly affectionate with them and they felt uncomfortable because of it.

Given all of these factors, I cannot imagine why anyone would think it is reasonable to believe that Biden was guilty.

accusing a candidate for office of an ancient sexual offense has become so standard it's a cliche. if not beyond a reasonable doubt, i think the public would need a heck of a lot more than just one accusation to abandon their chosen candidate.

JL

Could be worse. They could be demonizing people of Chinese heritage worldwide.

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the worst President in our history.

I don't know. I'm still pretty impressed with Buchanan (and not in a good way).

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Our legal system views Biden as “innocent until proven guilty”.

No one is talking about criminal prosecution. It's about the right of citizens to a reasonable level of confidence that they're not nominating or electing a perpetrator of sexual assault.

I am also saying that he is innocent because Reade waited almost 30 years to report this.

Delayed reporting is normal in such cases. Are you also ready to declare Trump and Weinstein innocent of offenses that weren't reported much later (even though Weinstein was convicted in court)?

Biden has denied that this event ever took place.

Practically every perpetrator denies that their alleged crimes ever happened. So that can't count for much, unless we're prepared to abandon most response to a wide range of offenses.

it has been said. i think it was michale who said it.

JL

the ad is effective because it communicates in language that a large swath of fox viewers can actually relate to. it reaches beyond the left-wing echo chamber, so to speak.

JL

Let me put it another way. How do you think this video is going to change any minds?

I've already said I click it and didn't think it was powerful, just too depressing.

If you don't wish to tell me why you think it will have an impact, don't bother then.

the link is in CW's article, so click it and find out.

JL

that lincoln project video is pretty powerful.

Really? How so?

Biden is toast... Pure and simple...

Your rebuttals are as lame and pathetic as your glee about dead Americans..

Oh yer gonna get bitch-slapped every day.... :D

and all you can do is distract, name call and make excuses...

Says the douche bag moron who has been doing NOTHING but distract, name call and make excuses since Jun 2015..

72,050 Americans dead due to Coronavirus and counting

Yep.. The glee in your comment is as unmistakable as it is sick and pathetic...

Which simply proves that no one here cares about dead Americans unless they can beat President Trump over the head with it..

Just like no one cares about rape unless they can beat President Trump over the head with it...

The FACTS clearly show that with ya'all, it's *ONLY* about the -D vs -R...

-Tara Reade

72,050 Americans dead due to Coronavirus and counting and all you can do is distract, name call and make excuses...

You mean Biden?? The guy who said he wants to keep his interactions with Putin secret??

I am the very opposite of "infatuated" with Joe Biden..

72,024 Americans dead due to Coronavirus and counting...

And you are happier and happier with every dead American..

#SickFuck

Why not? You yourself have become quite infatuated with a Russian asset.

72,024 Americans dead due to Coronavirus and counting...

The bulk of his argument is a matter of misdirection, or category error: Joe Biden couldn’t have done this, because he is an advocate of women. The proof is found in how he’s behaved in public during a particular stretch of time, whose dates were established by Joe Biden. He started doing this kind of pro-women work “over 25 years ago,” the statement notes repeatedly—an oddly chosen time frame for a 77-year-old whose political career began nearly 50 years ago. But starting in 1994, when the Violence Against Women Act was passed, is much easier for Biden than starting in, say, 1991, when he bungled the Anita Hill hearings.

This is the problem with all of the Trump/America haters defense of Joe Biden.

Joe is an advocate for women so he COULDN'T have done it..

Bill Clinton and Harvey Weinstein were ALSO big advocates for women..

And we now know that Joe Biden is of a kind like Bubba and Harvey..

Tara Reade is NOT going away..

This much is fact..

He went on Morning Joe that same day, to have a conversation with Mika Brzezinski where he offered his first spoken remarks on the now-month-old allegation. Brzezinski started with the obvious question—did this happen? Biden denied it unequivocally. His most repeated phrase during the interview was “it never happened,” but they also spent a good amount of time talking about access to files that seem extraordinarily unlikely to prove anything about whether or not Joe Biden put his fingers up Tara Reade’s skirt and penetrated her in a Senate hallway in 1993.

That DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS interview with Brezenski did Joe Biden some real harm..

It was obvious he was struggling to be convincing, but you could tell he KNOWS that the Delaware papers are rife with accusations..

If they weren't, he would release them in a stone cold minute...

His responses to Tara Reade’s allegations may be forceful, but they’re not particularly convincing.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/joe-biden-not-persuasive-tara-reade.html

Democrat water carrier...

Tara Reade is NOT going away....

Michael,

Sure I'm disappointed that the Democratic Establishment got the major non-Biden candidates to drop out and (mostly) endorse Joe. I'm disappointed that Democratic voters wussed out on the subject of "electability," as I think Bernie is not only more electable but would have handled Trump better than I fear Joe will (or won't.)

What's yer take on the rape criminal complaint against Biden???

But there isn't a chance in hell that I'd ever vote for the worst President in our history. America can't do this for another four years.

So, you would vote for Biden The Rapist.... OK... Just wanted to get that on record..

But have no fear.. America WILL have President Trump for another 4 years..

And despite this minor setback, courtesy of the Chinese Government and the Democrat Party, America will rise up stronger than ever..

Thanx to the awesome leadership of President Donald Trump..

"Well, at the very least it's pretty obvious that the same people who were outraged about allegations -- unproven allegations against Justice Kavanaugh when he was in high school -- seemed to have little or no interest, or certainly not as much interest, in suggestions of improper behavior by an adult who's in the Senate," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said in an interview on the "Guy Benson Show" on Fox News Radio last month.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-tight-senate-races-say-dems-enforcing-double-standard-sexual-assault

The rape criminal complaint against Joe Biden continues to reverberate up and down the campaign trail...

Anyone who thinks this is just going to fade away is deluding themselves..

Looks like President Trump is going to get his third SCOTUS pick sooner rather than later..

ANOTHER factor that guarantees that President Trump will be re-elected..

So.. Now yer pushing Chinese Propaganda Videos???

Against your own President???

"Oh how the mighty have fallen..."
-Guinan, STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION

I was wondering the same thing m'self... :D

Our legal system views Biden as “innocent until proven guilty”. I am also saying that he is innocent because Reade waited almost 30 years to report this....and because Reade did not make a criminal complaint at the time that she now claims she was assaulted (1993) there is no chance that evidence is available that would prove that he was guilty!

WOW...

Dood... Did you hurt yourself.. That exact 180 whiparound from what you claimed during the Kavanaugh lynching must have really put some Gs on yer body..

So... NOW you are claiming that a person is INNOCENT until proven guilty in a court of law...

NOW you are claiming that a woman's accusation is not proof of guilt..

NOW you are claiming that because the rape happened so long ago, it simply CAN'T be proven as fact...

WOW...

What a complete turnaround from yer Kavanaugh lynching, eh?? :D

So, let's apply this new found epiphanies of yours..

Since you NOW believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty, then you believe that President Donald Trump is completely innocent of everything he has EVER been accused of...

Since you NOW believe that ALL WOMEN are **NOT** to be believed, President Trump is completely innocent of all those women's accusations..

Since you NOW believe that sexual assaults that happened so long ago cannot be proven as fact, that means that there are no facts to support any of the accusations that women have made against President Trump..

You've come a long way, baby... Congratulations... :D

Not even close. Letting someone do something because they've got a gun to your head is the opposite of consent. No matter whether the gun is literal or metaphorical, the significance is the same, as long as it's effective.

But in this context, that was not the case...

In this context, the women "let" the rich guy do anything they want because they are attracted to the money..

I know you people like to spin what Donald Trump says to feed the hate...

But would it be possible to stick with the FACTS???

It would be a welcome change around here... :D

a "metaphorical" gun to your head? like donald threatened to destroy a girl's career and that's why they let him touch them? i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but that doesn't seem to be his thing. donald's probably just so into himself that he can't conceive of a reality in which every woman alive doesn't desperately want to jump into bed with "a star"

JL,

The above post stemmed from a previous comment you’d made regarding Michale’s claim that the unsuspecting women (that Trump bragged about kissing before they could stop him) had allowed Trump to do that to them:

that's getting consent after the fact

Consent has to be given... silence is not consent. Trump knew that most women are less likely to make a fuss if he does it when no one is looking and it would be their word vs. his. And Trump has publicly humiliated women who had the gall to not accept his sexual advances. And if they try to go after him legally, Trump has a long history of going after and trying to destroy anyone who has stood up to him. The National Enquirer was Trump’s BFF as they acted like spoiled mean girls spreading rumors that could destroy people’s lives unless they withdrew any complaints about Trump.

No one knows whether Biden is innocent, except Biden himself. We don't have The Truth. We have the evidence.

dsws:

Our legal system views Biden as “innocent until proven guilty”. I am also saying that he is innocent because Reade waited almost 30 years to report this....and because Reade did not make a criminal complaint at the time that she now claims she was assaulted (1993) there is no chance that evidence is available that would prove that he was guilty!

Biden has denied that this event ever took place. Reade’s past online posts of support for Biden when he has championed protecting women in the workplace now seem like an odd reaction from her considering what she has now accused him of doing!

Oh, ChiCom has been all the rage for a while already; see e.g.:

https://www.redstate.com/stu-in-sd/2020/03/26/the-chicom-propaganda-offensive-is-real-and-ongoing-and-the-democrat-media-complex-are-complicit/

And, if the Democratic establishment did what you say they did, then that's the first time that I'm aware of that they finally figured out who Joe Biden is. Just like most Democratic voters. Ahem.

If Bernie was electable, he'd be the nominee today. But, he's not, so he isn't. Deal with it.

And, I would just as soon see you not vote at all or write Bernie in than to have to visualize you voting while holding your nose … for no discernable reason, I might add.

Sure I'm disappointed that the Democratic Establishment got the major non-Biden candidates to drop out and (mostly) endorse Joe. I'm disappointed that Democratic voters wussed out on the subject of "electability," as I think Bernie is not only more electable but would have handled Trump better than I fear Joe will (or won't.)

But there isn't a chance in hell that I'd ever vote for the worst President in our history. America can't do this for another four years.

The Lincoln Project could learn from Chinese propaganda!

Seriously, is it propaganda when it is the God's honest truth?

Hmmm … I thought there was more connection between the Lincoln Project and the Biden campaign, no? Heh.