Comments on: Friday Talking Points -- Joe Says It Ain't So

By: Kick

Kick — Sun, 10 May 2020 02:57:07 +0000

CW: Instead, this week we're going to get a little obscure and award the MDDOTW to the New York State Board of Elections, who just decided to cancel the Democratic presidential primary. They're not canceling the primary election entirely, mind you, just the Democratic presidential part of it. People will still be voting on other offices and issues on the ballot, but they won't be able to cast a vote for Bernie Sanders, even if they would like to do so. I know, right!? This is so dumb when anybody does it. Let the people vote; let them all vote. Do not cancel voting!

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Tue, 05 May 2020 02:21:09 +0000

well it's certainly not the sort of confession that would hold up in criminal court. civil court, possibly... but in the court of public opinion, they never seem to want to convict the jester who plays a king on TV.

while the king was looking down
the jester stole his thorny crown
the courtroom was adjourned
no verdict was returned
~don mclean, american [well, you know]

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Mon, 04 May 2020 23:43:21 +0000

that's getting consent after the fact (i.e. donald presumes consent because sometimes women don't say no after he grabs them).

Semantics..

It's still not a confession to sexual assault as Russ and Victoria like to claim it is..

Trump talked about taking action so quickly that women didn’t have a chance to protest! You are arguing that because the woman did not say “no” prior to Trump grabbing them by the pussy, they were essentially “letting” Trump do it! Some claim that they were so stunned by his actions that they weren’t able to respond.

So if someone walks up to you and cracks you across the face with a baseball bat before you can say stop, you “let” them do that to you.

Trump’s recorded comments was a confession as many women came forward to state that was exactly what Trump had done to them.

Reade’s past comments do not jive with her accusations today. She needs to explain these contradictions.

There are no other accounts of women accusing Biden of sexual assault. The Senate has no records of anyone filing complaints against him for sexual harassment or sexual assault for all of his time in Congress. Biden was thoroughly vetted before becoming Obama’s pick to be his VP. Even Republican investigators looking for any dirt on him have said they could not find any records of misconduct against Biden. So Reade better have copies of responses to her filed complaints if she is to be taken seriously.

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 19:30:54 +0000

Let's face reality here..

Just like with the Russia Collusion delusion...

Just like with the Faux Impeachment Coup...

With Tara Reade, I have been dead on ballz accurate..

And ya'all have been totally and completely wrong..

It's a very recognizable pattern... :D

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 19:03:24 +0000

Apparently, a lot of people are..

"Dance like no one is watching."
-God AKA Chuck, SUPERNATURAL

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 18:33:09 +0000

The Times opinion writer concluded her column: “To preserve the strides made on behalf of victims of sexual assault in the era of #MeToo, and to maximize their chances in November, Democrats need to begin formulating an alternative strategy for 2020 — one that does not include Mr. Biden.”

#DumpJoe

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 18:31:20 +0000

If I am just playing a "tune".....

New York Times opinion writer: Democrats need to ponder Biden alternatives

The New York Times published an opinion piece on Sunday declaring Democrats should consider possible alternatives to Joe Biden if the party wants to defeat President Trump in November.

The column, written by Times opinion writer Elizabeth Bruenig, was bluntly headlined, “Democrats, It’s Time to Consider a Plan B,” with the subhead, “Tara Reade’s allegations against Joe Biden demand action.”

Reade has accused Biden of sexually assaulting her in 1993, which he denies.

DEBRA MESSING SLAMMED FOR SHARING ANTI-TARA READE BLOG POST, DELETES TWEET

“Reade contends that, sometime in the spring of that year, Mr. Biden forced her against a wall, shoved his hand up her skirt, and forced his fingers into her vagina. Mr. Biden has unequivocally denied Ms. Reade’s allegations,” Bruenig wrote before citing recent developments, such as a former neighbor saying she’s heard about the accusations for years.

“I have my own impressions regarding Ms. Reade’s allegations, but no one – save Ms. Reade and Mr. Biden – knows with certainty whether her claims are true. What I can assert with firm conviction is that Democrats ought to start considering a backup plan for 2020,” Bruenig wrote.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-opinion-democrats-biden-alternatives

It sure looks like a LOT of people are "dancing" to it.. :D

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 18:22:33 +0000

Biden did make one unforced error, which he'll hopefully reconsider soon. His senatorial papers were donated to the University of Delaware, but have not been made public yet (and won't until after he leaves "public life"). Biden asserts that even if Reade had made a personnel complaint at the time, it simply wouldn't be in his senatorial papers, therefore there's no reason to allow a search of them. Biden claimed this morning that any such complaint would reside within the National Archives, if it even existed. Reade has said she did file such a complaint with a congressional human resources office -- but not about the actual assault, rather just about other things Biden did that made her feel uncomfortable. She also said she didn't keep a copy of the complaint herself. Later today, however, the National Archives weighed in by passing the buck: "any records of Senate personnel complaints from 1993 would have remained under the control of the Senate. Accordingly, inquiries related to these records should be directed to the Senate." Joe Biden claims he supports 100% transparency when it comes to rape criminal complaints.. Let's see him practice what he preaches...

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 18:20:14 +0000

At worst, it's boorish sexist locker room talk.. Nothing more...

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 18:19:35 +0000

that's getting consent after the fact (i.e. donald presumes consent because sometimes women don't say no after he grabs them).

Semantics..

It's still not a confession to sexual assault as Russ and Victoria like to claim it is..

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Mon, 04 May 2020 17:15:16 +0000

it being less difficult to obtain forgiveness for it after it was done, than permission for doing it.
~agnes strickland, 1846

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Mon, 04 May 2020 17:08:54 +0000

What part of "LET" (IE permission) do you not understand??? that's getting consent after the fact (i.e. donald presumes consent because sometimes women don't say no after he grabs them).

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 14:58:41 +0000

JM,

Go ahead... Give me a President Donald Trump prediction you made that actually came to pass...

Just one..

You can't do that because you have been WRONG ***EVERY*** time you made one...

***EVERY*** ***TIME***

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 14:43:45 +0000

JM,

So your response is to concede that you were full of shit.. The same full of shit when you claimed Hillary was going to be POTUS..

And every full of shit President Trump prediction you have made since..

I accept your concession..

By: John M

John M — Mon, 04 May 2020 14:16:24 +0000

[55] Michale wrote:

"JM,

Criminal charges in ALL cases are on HOLD ONLY WHILE Trump holds the Office of President.

Yea, and of course, Dumbocrats are willing to abide by President Trump's rules?? Nice try..

Dumbocrats aren't pushing those cases, because there is nothing to push...

You say "lawsuits" are going forward?? Big deal..

We're talking CRIMINAL COMPLAINTS, not lawsuits."

In OTHER WORDS, ONCE AGAIN I have PROVEN you WRONG, and once again, you MOVE the GOALPOSTS after the fact. But then that has ALWAYS been your M.O. Michale.

"Once again, you have to change the subject because I got you by the short and curlies..."

NICE TRY. IF that day EVER comes, I will let you know!

"Have a nice day... :D I know I will.."

Thank you. I know I WILL TOO. :-D

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 14:10:19 +0000

Axelrod says Reade allegation never came up during 2008 Biden vetting
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/axelrod-says-reade-allegation-never-came-up-during-2008-biden-vetting

And town drunk/slut Blasey-Ford's allegation never came up in Kavanaugh's vetting..

What's the point???

Like I said.. Tara Reade is NOT going away...

Her rape criminal complaint is here to stay and WILL be part of the General Election..

This is FACT...

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 11:45:19 +0000

And a Happy Star Wars day to all.. :D

Except cop-hating bigots.. So that leaves most of ya'all out...

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 11:43:42 +0000

Russ,

But you just had to twist the truth to fit your hateful views... Karma would be you sneezing and coughing every time you misrepresent the truth on here!

Says the moron who swore up and down that President Trump would be removed by the Democrats' faux impeachment coup..

As always, you were full of shit..

Just like you are full of shit..

What does this cop-hate have to do with Democrats?? Because you and your bigoted Democrats are ALL ABOUT COP HATE...

You denigrate and attack cops at every juncture..

Cops no more co-opted the Blue Thin Line flag for political purposes any more than gay morons co-opted the rainbow for political purposes...

You just hate cops like a good little Democrat slave...

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 11:39:44 +0000

Democrats and Covid

http://sjfm.us/pics/DemocratsCovid.jpg

It's amazing that Democrats actually THINK they have any kind of chance in Nov.. :D

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 10:31:19 +0000

J. Peder Zane: The mainstream media’s double standard shields Biden from the Kavanaugh treatment

Most Americans are just learning that Joe Biden has been accused of sexual assault.

When a former Senate staffer, Tara Reade, alleged on March 26 that Biden had forcibly “penetrated me with his fingers” in 1993, most media outlets decided to ignore her charge. The TV networks and prestige newspapers that devoted blanket coverage to similar charges lodged against Brett Kavanaugh and before him Donald Trump practiced an extreme form of social distancing toward Biden’s former aide. The New York Times and Washington Post waited three weeks before publishing highly skeptical articles about her charge. Then they dropped the matter.

Biden was not asked about the allegation during April interviews on ABC, NBC, CNN and MSNBC.

The mainstream media finally lifted its brownout late last month as corroboration of Reade’s story mounted: more friends and associates (almost all Democrats) say she had told them about the incident in mid-1990s and a tape emerged of what sounds like Reade’s mother calling into Larry King Live in August of 1993 alleging that “a prominent senator” had acted inappropriately toward her daughter.

Once his media protectors dropped their shields, Biden was forced to officially deny the claim on May 1 issuing a statement that included the canard that Reade has changed her story. She has always said he touched her inappropriately, her recent statements identify the most extreme instance.

Decades old charges of sexual assault are almost impossible to prove; we may never know what, if anything, happened between Biden and Reade. But there is no doubt the media has treated her far differently than Kavanaugh’s accusers.

Unlike Reade, Kavanaugh’s main accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, told no one for decades about the alleged attack. While Reade certainly worked for Biden, Blasey Ford had no evidence that she even knew Kavanaugh.

But, reciting the mantra of the #MeToo movement, the press declared that no woman would make up such a story, so she must be believed.

Reade has not been afforded such trust at Biden’s expense – and nor should she.

Still, the reason the cases are receiving such different coverage is obvious: Biden is a Democrat and Kavanaugh was nominated by Trump.
https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article242430041.html

No one with more than 2 brain cells together can deny the media's and the Democrats' blatant hypocrisy and double standards..

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 10:27:56 +0000

Lucy Flores
Amy Lappos
D.J. Hill
Caitlyn Caruso
Ally Coll
Vail Kohnert-Yount
Sofie Karasek
Alexandra Tara Reade

All of Joe Biden's sexual assault and rape victims..

Anyone who doesn't see a pattern is willfully and maliciously blind..

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 10:22:22 +0000

On the plus side, #MeToo has a new slogan

#MeToo busy to cover the allegations against Biden

:eyeroll:

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 10:16:56 +0000

McDaniel: Media And Democrats Went From "Me Too, Me Too, Me Too," To "Move On, Move On, Move On"

Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel accused Democrats and the mainstream media of hypocrisy for "ignoring" allegations of sexual assault against Joe Biden by Tara Reade, a former Senate staffer.

"It went from MeToo, MeToo, MeToo, to Move on, Move on, Move on in a nanosecond because he’s a Democrat and the hypocrisy is appalling," she said Sunday on ABC's "This Week." "And it’s not just from the Democrats, it’s from the media, and I’ll tell you, I think any outlet that conducted those 19 interviews and didn’t ask a single question should be disqualified from conducting any part of a presidential debate."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/05/03/mcdaniel_media_and_democrats_went_from_me_too_me_too_me_too_to_move_on_move_on_move_on.html

What so hilarious about all this is that ya'all actually believed that groups like #MeToo and #TimesUp were sincere pro-woman groups whose purpose was to hold men accountable..

The FACTS clearly prove beyond any doubt that the groups exist just to hold REPUBLICAN men accountable and support Democrats who are rapists and serial sexual assaulters..

Oh sure, the groups will throw out a lowly Dem foot soldier now and again to feign credibility...

But the groups sole reason for existence is to rubber stamp powerful Democrat rapists like Joe Biden...

"These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 10:05:44 +0000

On MSNBC Friday morning, host Mika Brzezinski gave Biden the toughest grilling he’s received on Reade’s allegations, noting his past profession that all women must be believed.

Biden lied, saying what he really said was that all women must be heard. Where are the fact checkers who’ve honed their skills so fine on Trump?

Any movement that lets in hypocrisy and inconsistency loses its credibility. And that’s what just happened to #MeToo.

Again... Who could have POSSIBLY predicted this would happen.. :D

Aren't ya'all glad ya'all have such an awesome prognosticator here :D

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 10:03:40 +0000

Finley: #MeToo movement loses its religion

The movement that set the boundaries of what appropriate male/female interactions look like and finally held men accountable for crossing that line lost its righteousness this week.

Few social crusades have been as impactful as the #MeToo movement. Powerful men in all sectors were brought down by accusations of sexual impropriety, many without a semblance of due process.

But this past week some of the leading feminist figures in the nation lined up to endorse Joe Biden for president or to defend him against charges nearly identical to those used to crucify other men, most notably Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2020/05/03/finley-metoo-movement-loses-its-religion/3066605001/

Who would have thought that the #METOO movement was nothing but a political mafia organization masquerading as a pro-woman group...

Oh... wait... :D

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 09:27:12 +0000

Biden’s answers about the alleged sexual assault against Reade were filled with enough stammers to make nice opposition commercials. What he might have assumed would be a softball interview by an anti-Trump cable news channel turned into hardball. And since we don’t have any sports to watch, a lot of people noticed.

The very next day Biden got hit with criticism from The New York Times. The liberal newspaper went from covering up the allegations against Biden to suddenly wanting more detail.

The Times editorial even called for an investigation into “the trove of records from Mr. Biden’s Senate career that he donated to the University of Delaware in 2012.” Biden rejected that idea during his ill-fated TV interview.

The Times editorial was specific about the type of inquiry it wanted – but it’s not one voters could trust.

“The Democratic National Committee should move to investigate the matter swiftly and thoroughly, with the full cooperation of the Biden campaign,” the Times editorial said.

So the political party that is dominating the candidate it wants to defeat President Trump in November is also investigating the presumptive candidate? This is hardly convincing. In fact, it’s about as big a conflict of interest as anyone can imagine.

Funny how the Times never called for the Republican National Committee to investigate allegations of Trump-Russia collusion in the 2016 election, but instead supported an inquiry by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The Times also supported the House impeachment inquiry against Trump, rather than an RNC inquiry.

Of course, the NY GRIME asking the DNC to investigate Biden's rape of Tara Reade is ridiculous... You don't get the criminals to investigate the rapist...

But the NY GRIME is at least on the right track by telling Biden he needs full transparency of his UofD records...

This is not going away people.. I said the same thing more than a week ago and I turned out to be dead on balls accurate..

I believe it was Russ or Victoria who said this was going to fade away into nothing... :D

Once again, they were wrong.. :D

This is going to go on until President Trump wupps Biden's ass or until the rape accusations (both current and new ones) up and causes Joe Biden a fatal heart attack...

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 09:22:03 +0000

Former Vice President Joe Biden’s disastrous interview Friday on “Morning Joe” on MSNBC has caused more problems for the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee than it solved. Biden’s denial of an allegation by a former member of his Senate staff that he sexually assaulted her in 1993 was followed Saturday by a call from The New York Times for a further investigation.

When the paper dedicated to seeing Donald Trump become a one-term president turns on his challenger, you know the Democrats are facing a serious problem

This is the same New York Times that earlier published an article saying it “found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden” after examining the assault allegation made by former Biden staffer Tara Reade. She alleges that 27 years ago then-Sen. Biden pushed her against a wall in the empty hallway of a Senate office building, reached under her skirt and penetrated her with his fingers.

The Times Editorial Board said in its editorial that “the stakes are too high to let the matter fester – or leave it to be investigated by and adjudicated in the media.” This from the newspaper that attempted to do just that only a few weeks earlier.

Biden’s MSNBC interview didn’t silence his critics – it emboldened them.

“Morning Joe” co-host Mika Brzezinski hit Biden on his hypocrisy, pointedly noting to him that “you said that women should be believed.”
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/dan-gainor-even-anti-trump-ny-times-wants-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-investigated-bad-news-for-dems

The Morning Joe interview was everything that President Trump wanted.. It had stammering and faltering.. It had Joe Biden going pale with every question..It had Joe Biden stare off into space for like 10 seconds..

Every second of that interview is going to make an AWESOME President Trump Re-election campaign ad... :D

Biden hoped the interview would put things to rest.. It did just the opposite.. It actually galvanized the most Democrat of Democrat media sources to call for full transparency...

And, amazingly enough, it actually brought all those Weigantians with more than 2 brain cells to rub together under one single thought.

Joe Biden must be totally and completely transparent and release his UofD records untouched and in their entirety..

That's quite a feat of interviewee prowess... :D

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 09:11:35 +0000

Dan Gainor: Even anti-Trump NY Times wants Biden sexual assault allegation investigated – Bad news for Dems
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/dan-gainor-even-anti-trump-ny-times-wants-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-investigated-bad-news-for-dems

Bad news for Biden... Bad news for the Democrat Party

Great news for President Trump...

We should have a contest here.. EVERY Weigantian loves contests...

We should all predict the date of the next Joe Biden rape accusation...

And maybe a bonus pick of what state she (or he) will hail from...

I'll start us off...

First off, it will be a woman... She'll be from Delaware... And it will be around 1 Jun that she comes forward with a new rape incident against Joe Biden...

Those are my predictions. What are yours? :D

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 09:07:00 +0000

Ya'all just HAVE to know that when the NY GRIME, **THE** water carrier for the Democrat Party, starts calling on Biden to confess his sins...

Ya'all just HAVE to know it's over for Joe Biden...

What part of THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY do ya'all simply refuse to understand???

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 09:04:27 +0000

JL,

gosh, it really doesn't sound too far-fetched at all now that it's sitting there on my screen.

Joe Biden vapor-locking is a lot less far-fetched..

President Trump THRIVES on the stress...

For Biden, it will likely kill him..

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 04 May 2020 09:00:35 +0000

Russ,

And when you're a star they let you do it.

What part of "LET" (IE permission) do you not understand???

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Mon, 04 May 2020 03:59:56 +0000

it's nice to have company, even if you did have a dishwasher

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Mon, 04 May 2020 01:34:16 +0000

@liz [171]

nope. our dishwasher is broken and our building stopped allowing appliance installations since covid.

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Mon, 04 May 2020 01:32:57 +0000

@m,

but if some similar act of god happens to donald at any time between now and november 3, our wager continues as originally planned, right? biden is nominated, you vote for him; biden withdraws prior to the nomination, i vote for pence or whomever else the GOP puts forth. gosh, it really doesn't sound too far-fetched at all now that it's sitting there on my screen.

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Mon, 04 May 2020 01:25:16 +0000

@m[162]

agreed.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 23:27:02 +0000

We're on the same page, Russ. :)

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Sun, 03 May 2020 23:07:43 +0000

Liz,

I hear fiddle music.

Good one....Only Michale isn’t upsetting me, I find him laughable and I have quoted many of his arguments when debating friends and family on how destructive the Republicans truly have become.

Michale views are to many Republicans what Westboro Baptist Church is to how Christians view homosexuals — they are so toxic that no one wants to be compared to or associated with them!

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 23:05:37 +0000

Say, am I the only one around here who seems to be doing dishes all the time ever since this pandemic took off??

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Sun, 03 May 2020 22:56:32 +0000

Trump bragging how he just does what he wants to women without bothering to first get consent: Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Bush: "Whatever you want." Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 22:54:51 +0000

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Ahem.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 22:53:55 +0000

I hear fiddle music.

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Sun, 03 May 2020 22:44:15 +0000

San Francisco police chief nixes officers' 'Thin Blue Line' coronavirus masks, reports say

Dear GOD, you are such a lying POS! What does this have to do with Democrats? Did you not bother to read this article or any other articles online that reported on this before spewing your ignorant comments?

The chief acknowledged that while the flag was originally meant as a tribute to fallen officers, Blue Lives Matters has tainted it by adopting it as their symbol — turning it into a political statement. The department’s policies restrict on-duty officers from wearing items that endorse any political movement.

But you just had to twist the truth to fit your hateful views... Karma would be you sneezing and coughing every time you misrepresent the truth on here!

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 22:38:34 +0000

Bashi,

Never comment in the comments section of a major media outlets.

I've had great luck with the NYTimes and my experience on the whole has been good. Mostly because I know who and what to avoid.

By: BashiBazouk

BashiBazouk — Sun, 03 May 2020 21:29:24 +0000

Let us review: All of Trump's alleged sexual misconduct. Don't forget to read Trump's responses... 68,049 Americans dead due to Coronavirus and counting...

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 21:17:54 +0000

San Francisco police chief nixes officers' 'Thin Blue Line' coronavirus masks, reports say
https://www.foxnews.com/us/sf-police-chief-thin-blue-line-coronavirus-masks-rejected

Why are Democrats such cop-hating morons..

Russ, you should be ashamed of yourself for being a Democrat...

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 21:14:43 +0000

'Are you a spoiler?': why critics fear Amash's Libertarian bid may ensure a Trump win
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/03/justin-amash-libertarian-2020-election-trump-win-critics

ANY 3rd Party run.. By ANYONE...

Will ensure a President Trump re-election....

It's just one of the many things that guarantees a President Trump re-election..

It's gonna be a LOT of fun around here starting 4 Nov... :D

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 21:14:00 +0000

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/justin-haskins-joe-bidens-poll-numbers-hes-in-trouble-with-this-key-voting-bloc
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/03/justin-amash-libertarian-2020-election-trump-win-critics

ANY 3rd Party run.. By ANYONE...

Will ensure a President Trump re-election....

It's just one of the many things that guarantees a President Trump re-election..

It's gonna be a LOT of fun around here starting 4 Nov... :D

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 21:11:54 +0000

Tara Reade is not going away..

As long as Joe Biden continues to dodge transparency and continues to bullshit his way past the accusations...

He will continue to falter...

All it's going to take is for one more accusation... And he is toast..

As an aside, JL...

If Biden is the nominee but gets replaced (or dies) during the general, we call our bet a push and we both are free to vote how we wish..???

Deal???

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 20:57:37 +0000

Justin Haskins: Joe Biden's poll numbers — he's in trouble with this key voting bloc

Following his disastrous showings in the Iowa and Nevada caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, Joe Biden’s campaign appeared to be on the verge of collapse.

But then, something remarkable happened: The Democratic Party’s establishment wing decided that despite Biden’s generally poor debate performances, incoherent ramblings and a troubling sexual assault allegation, his allegedly “moderate” policy proposals would be far more palatable to voters in key swing states than the radical policies offered by self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont — who, at the time, seemed poised to capture the party’s nomination.

In the blink of an eye, Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg dropped out of the race and as a result, Biden enjoyed a truly remarkable turnaround on Super Tuesday, winning far more delegates than Sanders. Comrade Bernie was never able to make up the ground he lost on Super Tuesday and eventually dropped out of the race as a result, effectively handing the nomination to Biden.

Make no mistake about it: Biden was and is a terrible candidate. He is a gaffe-machine, a longtime establishment politician with his fair share of controversies and scandals and despite moving extremely far to the left over the course of the 2020 election cycle, he has yet to be adopted by the progressive or socialist wings of the party. Biden was ultimately chosen for one reason and one reason only: He was considered by many within the party to be the most electable candidate remaining.

Unfortunately for Democrats, new evidence seems to suggest the Biden electability argument might be severely flawed. Not only is Biden facing immense pressure from an army of angry Bernie acolytes over a sexual assault claim made by former Senate aide Tara Reade, but recent polling also suggests support for Biden among young voters – a key demographic for Democrats – might be much weaker than anyone realized, even in head-to-head matchups with Donald Trump.

According to an extensive survey by the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government released in late April, only 34 percent of Americans aged 18 to 29 say they have a favorable view of the former vice president, with just 8 percent saying they have a “very favorable” opinion of Biden. In the same survey, 47 percent of young people said they have an unfavorable view of Biden.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/justin-haskins-joe-bidens-poll-numbers-hes-in-trouble-with-this-key-voting-bloc

Since ya'all love polls so much.. :D

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 20:38:15 +0000

CW,

Here, sadly, is who's playing Michale's game:

He get's it right now and again.. :D

Don't feel too bad..

I have always said, if yer getting slapped from BOTH sides, ya must be doing something right.. :D

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 20:12:52 +0000

'Sides.. You've agreed that full transparency is warranted..

What's there left to debate, Liz???

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 20:10:13 +0000

Here, sadly, is who's playing Michale's game: He get's it right now and again.. :D

By: BashiBazouk

BashiBazouk — Sun, 03 May 2020 19:58:01 +0000

Liz-

Never comment in the comments section of a major media outlets. They are cesspools of hate and propaganda from every political direction you can think of and a few you have never considered. Plus they usually get so many replies that anything you post disappears in the flood.

By: BashiBazouk

BashiBazouk — Sun, 03 May 2020 19:52:34 +0000

Is there anyone here who DOESN'T think Joe Biden should be committed to FULL transparency and release the University of Delaware records???

Lets see Trump's full tax records first. If the GOP wants a fishing expedition they have to provide one of their own...

67,958 Americans dead due to Coronavirus and counting...

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 19:28:54 +0000

And, Russ, the comments that are worrisome to me are not here.

I have found that whenever I make a comment on an opinion piece at the NYTimes in support of Biden, one percent or less of the commenters agree. Most are still hoping Bernie or Cuomo will eventually be the Democratic nominee when all is said and done.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 19:24:22 +0000

Russ,

Here, sadly, is who's playing Michale's game:

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/28/tara-reade-accusation-puts-democratic-voters-in-a-tough-spot/

And, that is what has been upsetting, to say the least.

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 19:21:42 +0000

Russ,

Biden does not need to “prove his innocence”,

Why not??

According to you, Kavanaugh had to prove his..

Funny how you sing the EXACT opposite tune when it's a guy with a -D after his name being accused of rape..

yet listened to Trump brag about committing sexual assault on multiple women and refuse to accept that he is guilty...

Actually, President Trump said nothing of the sort..

Buy why let FACTS ruin your perfectly good hysterical rant..

he has denied doing it and there is no actual evidence that contradicts that claim.

Factually not accurate..

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 19:11:38 +0000

Quit playing Michale’s game! He is playing you like a fiddle right now by getting you upset with his bogus take on this story!

Thanks for that.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 19:09:26 +0000

I can't help it if I'm worried, Russ.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 19:08:19 +0000

President George W. Bush has released a wonderful message to Americans about unity of purpose in the fight against this virus.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1256607729151619073

I just love it when people channel Dr. Tedros/

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Sun, 03 May 2020 19:08:01 +0000

Liz,

Quit playing Michale’s game! He is playing you like a fiddle right now by getting you upset with his bogus take on this story!

Biden does not need to “prove his innocence”, he has denied doing it and there is no actual evidence that contradicts that claim. He shouldn’t release his papers because there is no reason to do her job for her in finding evidence that could be twisted and damage his candidacy.

You have people like Michale who believe a sigh is evidence of Biden’s guilt, yet listened to Trump brag about committing sexual assault on multiple women and refuse to accept that he is guilty... which should be reason enough not to listen to anything he says! Fact is, he knows Biden is innocent and that Trump is a pathetic, lying bag of dicks who creates these false news stories to hurt those he opposes. This is what the National Enquirer did for him for decades; why would anyone think Trump would suddenly stop doing this just because he is president?

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:55:47 +0000

And yet, I said nearly the ***EXACT*** same thing during the Kavanaugh lynching and EACH and EVERY ONE of ya'all argued with me and said I was full of shit..

In other words, ***NO ONE*** sans yours truly said that ALL WOMEN ARE TO BE BELIEVE was anything but a factual and valid statement..

It's only an issue *NOW* because it's a Democrat nominee for POTUS is the one being accused..

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:50:30 +0000

Let's try it this way..

Is there anyone here who DOESN'T think Joe Biden should be committed to FULL transparency and release the University of Delaware records???

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:43:14 +0000

I had a whole litany of comments lined up..

But then I got tied up with other things..

So, frack it.. I might catch up the morning..

I might not.. We'll see how it goes.. :D

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:42:22 +0000

Liz,

I just think that we cannot start from the premise that all accusers are entitled to be believed because that is an asinine notion.

And yet, I said nearly the ***EXACT*** same thing during the Kavanaugh lynching and EACH and EVERY ONE of ya'all argued with me and said I was full of shit..

I just don't understand what is motivating her or what is behind her allegation and if there is something behind it why can't it be uncovered????

Biden can put this ***ALL*** to rest....

Release the UofD records...

WHY won't he??

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:38:17 +0000

I'm guessing that there are many Democrats, perhaps even a majority, who would like to use these false allegations as a ruse to demand a convention fight and a new nominee.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:33:50 +0000

Bashi,

Why do you think she's doing it? Did she think Biden is like every other politician she may have run into? I just don't understand what is motivating her or what is behind her allegation and if there is something behind it why can't it be uncovered????

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:30:28 +0000

Joshua,

That goes without saying.

I just think that we cannot start from the premise that all accusers are entitled to be believed because that is an asinine notion.

In this case, I trust Biden completely. I can say that because I know him well enough to know that this didn't happen.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:27:15 +0000

OMG!! Been having withdrawals all morning!! :D

I understand you're going to have to find another time to comment. :)

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:23:01 +0000

My apologies, JL.. I did miss that one..

i watched it, without sound and then with. it honestly didn't look like a blank stare to me. what i saw was him looking into the camera, frowning and slightly shaking his head. what about his body language looked deer-in-headlights to you?

The fact that he blank-stared for almost 10 seconds.. Time it.. You'll see...

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:21:34 +0000

Semantics... A police report filed by a citizen is a criminal complaint..

You can split hairs all you want.. But facts are facts..

At the time, it was stated that the reason Blasey-Ford et al did NOT file a police report/criminal complaint was because they didn't want to get caught up with a perjury rap...

For all intents and purposes, a police report is a criminal complaint.. But a criminal complaint is not always a police report...

I am surprised I have to explain this to someone of your demonstrated intelligence..

But you have no LEO experience so I guess it's not that surprising..

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:17:02 +0000

@m,

i didn't ignore it, i watched it, and i didn't agree with your take.

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/30/program-note-80/#comment-158476

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:15:30 +0000

@dan,

i think you never really liked biden as a nominee and are engaged in a bit of wishful thinking. however, you're right that a "big speech" on the subject, like the one obama gave in response to the controversy over reverend wright, would definitely be a good thing.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90040477

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:12:59 +0000

All of you are ignoring the Mika Brezenski interview...

Why??

Because it TOTALLY decimates Joe Biden's credibility...

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:11:49 +0000

of the 3 main kavanaugh accusers, swetnick is actually the most similar to tara reade.

So, you are saying she is credible.. OK.. :D

Regardless, of the 4, Reade is the most credible as she has people who backed her up that she told people about the rape..

None of the other 3 Kavanaugh accusers had that..

By that factor alone, Reade is more credible..

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:10:28 +0000

Dan,

Michale, why are you going on endlessly insisting on the police report being a "criminal complaint" instead of a police report?

Semantics... A police report filed by a citizen is a criminal complaint..

You can split hairs all you want.. But facts are facts..

By: Michale

Michale — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:08:22 +0000

OMG!! Been having withdrawals all morning!! :D

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Sun, 03 May 2020 18:07:19 +0000

@liz,

because most sex offenses happen in private, and because there tends to be large negative consequences for coming forward, it makes sense, at least initially, to take allegations of sex crimes at face value. although in most cases it's VERY hard to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, the alleged victim should at least be entitled to all the same rights afforded the alleged perpetrator.

By: BashiBazouk

BashiBazouk — Sun, 03 May 2020 17:52:26 +0000

But let's not forget:

Ivana Trump (1989), Jill Harth (1992), E. Jean Carroll (1995 or 1996), Summer Zervos (2007), Alva Johnson (2019), Jessica Leeds (1980s), Kristin Anderson (1990s), Lisa Boyne (1996), Cathy Heller (1997), Temple Taggart McDowell (1997), Karena Virginia (1998), Mindy McGillivray (2003), Jennifer Murphy (2005), Rachel Crooks (2005), Natasha Stoynoff (2005), Juliet Huddy (2005 or 2006), Jessica Drake (2006), Ninni Laaksonen (2006), Cassandra Searles (2013), Mariah Billado, Victoria Hughes, and three other Miss Teen USA contestants (1997), Bridget Sullivan (2000), Tasha Dixon (2001), Samantha Holvey (2006)

+43 others…

Or the total incompetency of the Trump Administration in the coronavirus response.

67,300 Americans dead due to Coronavirus and counting...

By: BashiBazouk

BashiBazouk — Sun, 03 May 2020 17:47:33 +0000

Liz-

No. Tara Reade is folding like a deck of cards. I think she is up to her 6th version of the her story. She has been caught trying to update old blog posts to make them match her current version of the story, back peddling on what paperwork might back her up. I guess she didn't plan on Biden's call for transparency. Or didn't plan at all.

Another of Biden's accusers, turns out Biden was not even at the event it was said to have happened at, as reported in the press at the time.

This swiftboating is sinking fast...

And I think Michale knows it, that's why he has been steering the conversation here to Kavanaugh.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 17:45:39 +0000

He should explain the difference between factual innocence, and having overcome the presumption of honesty that all accusers are entitled to.

All accusers are entitled to the presumption of honesty!?

Why?

By: dsws

dsws — Sun, 03 May 2020 17:37:37 +0000

I think Biden has an opportunity. He could make a big speech, and focus on the option of his removal as nominee. The important thing about any politician's response to any question is not how it addresses that question, but how it addresses the other issues behind it. If Biden makes it clear that he is willing to do the right thing now, that addresses the issue of whether he acted properly in other situations. If he quotes his own statement, and shows that he is willing to abide by its implications, he addresses the question of Democratic hypocrisy on #MeToo. He should emphasize that the presumption of innocence, and the standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt, apply to criminal prosecution. He should work with the other campaigns (which are suspended, not ended), primarily the Bernie Sanders campaign, to ensure that his running mate is acceptable to all delegates as a backup nominee, so that the convention won't be contested if he steps down. He should explain the difference between factual innocence, and having overcome the presumption of honesty that all accusers are entitled to. He should tell us that he knows he's innocent, that's not enough. To accept the nomination in good conscience, he needs to have evidence that justifies the rest of us being confident that he's innocent. He doesn't need to go into detail about actually presenting the evidence. Surrogates and the media will do that. If the narrative is that he's a good guy who's doing the right thing by being ready and willing to step down if the evidence of his innocence isn't strong enough, that makes it a lot easier for the public to decide that the evidence is strong enough. He still wouldn't be my first-choice nominee. But I would be able to really vote for him instead of casting an identical ballot as a vote against Trump.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 17:32:49 +0000

Joshua,

Is this thing going to get out of control?

By: nypoet22

nypoet22 — Sun, 03 May 2020 17:28:19 +0000

@m/r

of the 3 main kavanaugh accusers, swetnick is actually the most similar to tara reade.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sun, 03 May 2020 17:07:38 +0000

I wouldn't mind if the comments sections were closed down everyday between the hours of, say, 1am and 6am. Heh.

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Sun, 03 May 2020 02:38:35 +0000

nypoet22 [108],

Great recap of the allegations made against Kavanaugh!

By: dsws

dsws — Sun, 03 May 2020 02:21:22 +0000

“For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time,” Biden said.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-brett-kavanaugh-anita-hill_n_5ba0714de4b046313fbe8f84

Start from the presumption. That doesn't mean ignoring evidence to the contrary. When there are people who should be able to corroborate an allegation, and they don't, that gets weighed along with other evidence. When there should be records that can be found, and they can't be, that gets weighed along with the rest of the evidence.

I'm sure there are people who said unreasonably absolute things about believing accusers. But this quote isn't one of them.

By: dsws

dsws — Sun, 03 May 2020 01:40:01 +0000

Michale, why are you going on endlessly insisting on the police report being a "criminal complaint" instead of a police report?

"Like a civil complaint, this is a written document filed by a state or federal prosecutor"
https://dictionary.thelaw.com/criminal-complaint/

You've proven that you can annoy me enough to get me to respond. But why?

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sat, 02 May 2020 23:55:31 +0000

Michale, do you know why Biden froze when asked about releasing his senate records?

Because he has been burned by the media so many times that it's a wonder he's still around, much less on the verge of becoming POTUS.

I think it's safe to say that the media is chomping at the bit at the prospects of getting his records in the middle of a presidential campaign - for all the wrong reasons.

I would have thought that you, of all people, would understand that. But you are so hell bent on seeing his campaign ruined that you are blinded to everything else.

That's what I hate most about your comments these days.

Why do you think he should release all of his senate papers. Why not just have them searched for anything related to Reade? Wouldn't the be the reasonable approach to this?

You like to think of yourself as being reasonable. But, you are not.

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 21:34:10 +0000

When the judge was confirmed, Pelosi declared, “Senate Republicans chose to send a clear message to all women: Do not speak out, and if you do — do not expect to be heard, believed or respected.” Now she says Reade shouldn’t be believed because Biden is a man of “great integrity.”

We don’t know what happened in that Senate office in 1993. Some Reade friends recall her telling them years ago about the incident, and her mom called into “Larry King Live” that year talking about a staffer having “problems” with “a prominent senator.” Eight women, including Reade, a year ago said Biden had a pattern of touching females in a way that made them uncomfortable.

Still, the #MeToo group Times Up Now has reiterated its support for Biden, as have a litany of top Democratic women.

Biden sighed when Brzezinski asked him, “Are women to be believed unless it pertains to you?” But everyone in his party needs to answer that very question.

Joe Biden did more than "sigh".. He also froze for almost 10 seconds when Brezenski asked him if he would authorize U of Delaware to release his Senate records..

That proves right there that Joe Biden is lying..

But hay.. I could be wrong.. Let's have a FULL investigation including a full transparent release of the UofD records..

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 21:29:58 +0000

Post says: #MeToo hypocrisy of Joe Biden, Democrats exposed

The #MeToo hypocrites who've gone silent for Joe Biden
Remember “Believe All Women”? The rallying cry for Democrats and their allies in their bid to derail Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court nomination is out the window now, not two years later. They insist that Tara Reade’s charge that her then-boss sexually assaulted her is not to be believed because — in Nancy Pelosi’s phrase — “Joe Biden is Joe Biden.”

In other words, they were never actually committed to the principle they used to try to destroy a man’s career and reputation. To them, it all depends on the man in question, not the woman.

Biden finally made his first statement about the allegation Friday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” It had been a month since Reade accused Biden of violating her when she worked for him in the Senate in 1993, but not one interviewer had asked the de facto Democratic nominee about it until Mika Brzezinski stepped up.

“Unequivocally it never, never happened,” Biden said, calling on the National Archives to release any complaint Reade might have made that it has on file.

But he won’t release papers from his tenure in the Senate (held by the University of Delaware) and refused to answer Brzezinski when she repeatedly asked if he’d allow a search of Reade’s name to be done on them.

And he offered this bizarre defensive statement: “I don’t know why after 27 years all of a sudden this gets raised. I don’t understand it.”

Really? Reade came forward when it became clear Biden would be the Democratic nominee for the highest land in the office — and no Democrat seemed puzzled that Christine Blasey Ford came forward in 2018, as Kavanaugh was headed to the highest court in the land, with an even older claim about something she said happened when they were in high school.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/01/post-says-metoo-hypocrisy-of-joe-biden-democrats-exposed/

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 20:51:57 +0000

Ya'all agree to that and we really have nothing to debate re: the Tara Reade rape criminal complaint..

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 20:45:30 +0000

“Last year, this board advocated strongly for a vigorous inquiry into accusations of sexual misconduct raised against Brett Kavanaugh when he was nominated to a seat on the Supreme Court. Mr. Biden’s pursuit of the presidency requires no less,” the board said. “His campaign, and his party, have a duty to assure the public that the accusations are being taken seriously. The Democratic National Committee should move to investigate the matter swiftly and thoroughly, with the full cooperation of the Biden campaign.”

The Times argued that for the probe to be a “serious inquiry,” it must include a search through the records in the University of Delaware: “No relevant memo should be left unexamined.”

What say ya'all???

Full disclosure of all the Biden Delaware records???

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 19:29:12 +0000

It's funny.. Ya'all are denying that, back then, you said Swetnick and Avanetti had any credibility..

But you refuse to acknowledge in the here and now, that the DIDN'T have any credibility..

Ya'all can't have it both ways...

It's against the rules.. :D

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 19:09:58 +0000

julie swetnick said that kavanaugh and the same friend conspired to get college girls such as herself stone drunk and then rape them, one after the other. New Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick details parties where girls allegedly were drugged and raped The lawyer Michael Avenatti on Wednesday identified another accuser of Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh, Washington resident Julie Swetnick. Swetnick, in an affidavit posted online by Avenatti, claims that Kavanaugh, as a high school student in the early 1980s, with others spiked the drinks of girls at house parties with grain alcohol and/or drugs to "cause girls to lose inhibitions and their ability to say 'No.' " Swetnick said these efforts by Kavanaugh and his buddy Mark Judge were done so the girls "could then be 'gang raped' in a side room or bedroom by a 'train' of numerous boys." That is what Swetnick said.. Nothing like what you claimed Swetnick said..

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 18:57:52 +0000

deborah ramirez said kavanaugh went up to her at a college party and smacked her in the face with his penis, and seemed to think it was funny. she recanted that testimony because she said she couldn't be certain it was him.

Which has nothing to do with what we were discussing..

Then or now...

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 18:57:10 +0000

julie swetnick said that kavanaugh and the same friend conspired to get college girls such as herself stone drunk and then rape them, one after the other.

Not factually accurate..

Swetnick's claim was that she SAW Kavanaugh organize child rape gangs...

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 18:56:21 +0000

I am also constrained to point out that, at the time, ya'all found Avanetti credible as well... :D

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 02 May 2020 18:54:41 +0000

swetnick's accusation turned out to be on the weaker side, and her lawyer avenatti's fabrication of corroborating evidence did her no favors. however, blasey-ford's testimony came first, and is still credible. she said NOTHING about a "child rape ring" - nor did any of kavanaugh's other accusers. At the time, we were talking SOLELY about Swetnick's accusation... Now, if you want to concede here and now that it was an UTTERLY ridiculous accusation with it's SOLE function to serve as a Shock Value accusation (much as my Obama Raped Malia claim) and had NO BASIS in fact at ANY time in ANY way, shape or form... We can lay the matter to rest..

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Sat, 02 May 2020 18:38:50 +0000

I admire your patience, Joshua.