I much prefer yours...It takes me somewhere

Clicking on DH name takes you no where but a dead link.

Pretty much says it all about the effort the movements creator is putting into his own movement.

just click on don's name. then click on my name, and see which one you prefer.

;)
JL

Looks like you posted this while I was typing out my above comments.

Perhaps Don Harris and I can discuss this offsite. Don, do you have an OD website?

Funny that Don didn’t share that OD does have a website — just not one with an interactive comment section. Could it be that anyone who was interested in learning more about OD quickly became uninterested in OD upon visiting the site?

The above :
And what “worst case scenario” are you even babbling about? You love to claim to know why we oppose One Demand and say it is for reasons none of us have stated, yet you ignore the reasons that we do state:

should have said :
And what “worst case scenario” is he even babbling about? He loves to claim to know why we oppose One Demand and say it is for reasons none of us have stated, yet he ignores the reasons that we do state:

I had started directing the post to Don, but then realized it was better to direct my comments to you.

I agree with Don Harris that getting Big Money out of politics is of paramount importance, and seeing Bernie Sander's small doner tsunami verifies the potential of One Demand as part of a possible solution, and that's worth further discourse.

Really?!? Have you actually gone to his website? The one thing that proves One Demand exists outside of Don’s head...and it is too kind to even call it a “dumpster fire”. The number of red flags that his site raises for any group calling itself a “non-profit” would keep most people from wanting to have anything to do with it — which might explain why only six people have signed on since 2015. There doesn’t seem to be a board of directors to oversee it, he does not list One Demands tax exempt ID number, and it hasn’t been updated since 2015.

But Don thinks everyone balks at OneDemand for far less obvious reasons:

The objection to trying One Demand or standing up in any way to the big money interests here has always been that it could lead to a worst case scenario and it not worth the risk to abandon a tried and true method that avoids such a worst case scenario.

The objection to trying One Demand has nothing to do with an objection to standing up in any way to Big Money interests, because One Demand has nothing to do with standing up in any way to Big Money interests!

Don made that clear when he said he did not want to see campaign donations capped at $200! No, what he wants is a political statement: the “every-citizen” coalition beating the Big Money guys at their own game to bring about “change”. Strangely, that “change” is NOT actually about getting the Big Money out of our elections; Don just wants a “purity test” he can claim shows everyone who can be trusted and who can’t.

And what “worst case scenario” are you even babbling about? You love to claim to know why we oppose One Demand and say it is for reasons none of us have stated, yet you ignore the reasons that we do state:
* It offers no practical incentive for voters or candidates to join you;

* OD believes people writing in their names in place of voting for a candidate on their ballots will make a political statement that in 3 or 4 elections MIGHT get the attention of candidates and get them to consider running small donation only campaigns — which is ludicrous;

* Don thinks the capped legal donations between $201 - $5400 are the problem, ignoring the unlimited money being funneled into PAC’s ...you know, the REAL Big Money;

* even if Don’s concept for OD were sound (it isn’t!), his “organization” is anything but sound.

Yes, Big Money is corrupting our elections, but Don isn’t as interested in actually making real change as much as he is wanting credit for starting a movement.

OK, Kick

Thanks for the reminder.
Perhaps Don Harris and I can discuss this offsite. Don, do you have an OD website?

We could stop prattling on and on but we won't. I agree with Don Harris that getting Big Money out of politics is of paramount importance, and seeing Bernie Sander's small doner tsunami verifies the potential of One Demand as part of a possible solution, and that's worth further discourse.

Repeated without further comment:

[54] Chris Weigant wrote:

Don Harris [49] -

Yes. You are a troll. Deal with it.

As for your language, you are pushing me very very close to banning the first person ever from my site. You have been warned, and this is your final warning.

If ignoring you doesn't work, then banning you just might. Address the issues in the articles or the comments to those articles, and quit with your own monomania, because nobody's listening. Instead, you are just trolling.

And we're ALL way beyond getting tired of it.

Is that clear enough?

-CW

[Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 at 16:05 UTC]

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/01/april-is-the-cruelest-month/#comment-156925

I'm kinda outta practice (with my whole Devil worship diversion and all,) so how many "Hail Mary's" and "Our Father's" do I gotta say?

Dude I'm 100% in agreement with this post.

Am I evil?"

C'mon, fellow Weigantians! Isn't anybody going to touch this?

Don Harris wrote:

"A Nader campaign in 2020 would not be a repeat of 2000.

The Nader campaign in 2000 did not have any effect on the outcome of the 2000 election. "

Dude, Bush the Younger " won" Florida by 537 votes. Ralph Nader garnished over 97,000 votes in Florida. Unless you believe Nader took more votes from the Repugs than from the Dems then Nader cost Gore the election.

Kick wrote:

"OMG. Can't we please collectively stop prattling on and on about this? Enough already."

We could stop prattling on and on but we won't. I agree with Don Harris that getting Big Money out of politics is of paramount importance, and seeing Bernie Sander's small doner tsunami verifies the potential of One Demand as part of a possible solution, and that's worth further discourse.

That said, I'm just as annoyed with "Get Real" and his pox on both houses assertions as anyone in the Weigant tribe. We all have had plenty of practice scrolling through the Michale deluge so feel free to scroll through my comments as you please.

And, today is World Health Day, wouldn't you know it.

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/07-04-2020-who-and-partners-call-for-urgent-investment-in-nurses

Easy there, Big Don - while I and I think most Americans want Big Money out of politics, One Demand is only a portion of what has to happen to effect this worthy goal.

OMG. Can't we please collectively stop prattling on and on about this? Enough already.

John M from CT.

I agree that the ads are to wordy. But in general I find CW to be a little on the wordy side. Mind you it doesn't take away from my enjoyment of nor my agreement with CW, and the fact that he is (hopefully) making a living doing this speaks volumes. Just a matter of personal taste I guess.

Polling of Repugs (and the actions/inactions of various Repug governors) show that Dems and Independents take coronavirus way more seriously. I wonder if the folks who've trusted Cheetogod on this matter will die in greater numbers than the rest of us. Could this turn out to be a political Natural Selection event that alters the electorate in a significant manner? I don't see how (absent the South and Plains states being considerably more ravaged than the bi-coastal blue states) we'll ever know for sure but I sure wonder about it.

Am I evil?

Could it be that the Dems are rightfully known as the "Mommy Party" and don't have an edgy bone in their collective body? Could it be because Don Harris is right, that both Parties are Big Money Parties who've decided to let us proles fight over social issues to give us the illusion that we actually have a choice? [Easy there, Big Don - while I and I think most Americans want Big Money out of politics, One Demand is only a portion of what has to happen to effect this worthy goal. And Don forget about Ralph Nader (a hero of mine) unless you want a repeat of 2000. Joe Biden was my last choice of the "for real" Dem Primary candidates as, among other things, Joe's too Corporatist for even a Nader threat to change his mind. And please stop equating Perez and Biden's inability to postpone State primaries as the equivalent of Trump costing American lives. Even if they had the power to do so (each State Party run their own Primaries, hello?) it would be political suicide for them to try. After the DNC rigged 2016 to shove Hillary down our collective throat they cannot even appear to be doing the same this year.]

I only hope the Dems are even interested in making this an issue worth some televised ads.

Please, say it ain't so!