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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156982</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2020 01:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New FTP column is (finally) up...

-CW</description>
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<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156981</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2020 00:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Ha!</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156980</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2020 00:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, that one might be for Chris! :)</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156979</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2020 00:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, this one&#039;s for you!

https://www.elyrics.net/read/p/prism-lyrics/the-visitor-lyrics.html

Hehehehehehehehehehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, this one's for you!</p>
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<p>Hehehehehehehehehehehe</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156978</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2020 00:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all your fault, Don.</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156976</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 23:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,

You have been fairly warned by the owner of this blog - a blog in which you participate at the pleasure of the owner of this blog - to refrain from using bad language in the comments sections of this blog because you don&#039;t seem to understand what and where and when and in what context colourful language should be used in the comments sections of this blog.

I am done with you on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,</p>
<p>You have been fairly warned by the owner of this blog - a blog in which you participate at the pleasure of the owner of this blog - to refrain from using bad language in the comments sections of this blog because you don't seem to understand what and where and when and in what context colourful language should be used in the comments sections of this blog.</p>
<p>I am done with you on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156974</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 22:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Perhaps you need Dr. Phil Harmonic to read you a book named Context and Consistency. :D

Now, that, is the height of irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Perhaps you need Dr. Phil Harmonic to read you a book named Context and Consistency. :D</p>
<p>Now, that, is the height of irony.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156973</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 22:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that happens to be my favourite Eagles song, Don.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that happens to be my favourite Eagles song, Don.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156970</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 22:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep it up and soon you&#039;ll be gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep it up and soon you'll be gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156969</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 22:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m offended by your language, Don.</description>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156966</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 22:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GT
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&quot;Trentin Quarantino&quot;

Heh.</description>
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<p>"Trentin Quarantino"</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156965</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 21:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen!</description>
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		<title>By: goode trickle</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156964</link>
		<dc:creator>goode trickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 21:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people are having a hard time getting onboard with the whole collective needs thing, perhaps this will help persuade them. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvmj8tMUEzo </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people are having a hard time getting onboard with the whole collective needs thing, perhaps this will help persuade them. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvmj8tMUEzo" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvmj8tMUEzo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156961</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 21:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TS and everyone,

The WHO really is a good site. It is infinitely reassuring to know that they are working hard to coordinate the worldwide COVID-19 response.

During the Q&amp;A portion of the WHO daily press briefing today, Dr. Michael Ryan gave an excellent overview of what needs to be put in place BEFORE there is any thought put into relaxing social distancing and other mitigation measures.

Before mitigation measures can be relaxed and lifted, he warned, we need to develop transition strategies that will put us ahead of and in control of the virus. Only when we are in control can we protect lives and livelihoods.

Ryan said further, &quot;In order to reach such a point of disease control there needs to be put in place a comprehensive public health architecture along with a massive investment into the capacity to do surveillance, contact tracing, isolation and quarantine, good information systems and highly educated, engaged and empowered communities across the world who understand what to do and where to go when they get sick and who have access to medical professionals and to testing, isolation, and quarantine...healthcare systems need to be strengthened in order to take care of the very sick while developing new therapies and a vaccine.&quot; 

Doctor Ryan&#039;s bottom line:&quot;We need to work hard to put in place the comprehensive architecture of public health and healthcare systems if we&#039;re going to unlock safely from the societal and population measures that are affecting and impacting peoples social and economic futures.&quot;

I hope all governments are listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TS and everyone,</p>
<p>The WHO really is a good site. It is infinitely reassuring to know that they are working hard to coordinate the worldwide COVID-19 response.</p>
<p>During the Q&amp;A portion of the WHO daily press briefing today, Dr. Michael Ryan gave an excellent overview of what needs to be put in place BEFORE there is any thought put into relaxing social distancing and other mitigation measures.</p>
<p>Before mitigation measures can be relaxed and lifted, he warned, we need to develop transition strategies that will put us ahead of and in control of the virus. Only when we are in control can we protect lives and livelihoods.</p>
<p>Ryan said further, "In order to reach such a point of disease control there needs to be put in place a comprehensive public health architecture along with a massive investment into the capacity to do surveillance, contact tracing, isolation and quarantine, good information systems and highly educated, engaged and empowered communities across the world who understand what to do and where to go when they get sick and who have access to medical professionals and to testing, isolation, and quarantine...healthcare systems need to be strengthened in order to take care of the very sick while developing new therapies and a vaccine." </p>
<p>Doctor Ryan's bottom line:"We need to work hard to put in place the comprehensive architecture of public health and healthcare systems if we're going to unlock safely from the societal and population measures that are affecting and impacting peoples social and economic futures."</p>
<p>I hope all governments are listening.</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 20:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EM-17

The WHO webpage is in my bookmarks.  It&#039;s a good site, and I check it out regularly.  Frankly, every reputable COVID tracking site I&#039;ve encountered is giving out pretty much the same information from the same sources. I happen to prefer the Johns Hopkins webpage because presents log graphs of mortality and recovery- which is what you want if you are interested in exponential growth rates.  I like double checking what the prognosis is: and I have the tools to do it. It&#039;s not rocket science.  Just population biology.  A staff and supercomputer would be nice, but I work with what I&#039;ve got. It helps me pass the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EM-17</p>
<p>The WHO webpage is in my bookmarks.  It's a good site, and I check it out regularly.  Frankly, every reputable COVID tracking site I've encountered is giving out pretty much the same information from the same sources. I happen to prefer the Johns Hopkins webpage because presents log graphs of mortality and recovery- which is what you want if you are interested in exponential growth rates.  I like double checking what the prognosis is: and I have the tools to do it. It's not rocket science.  Just population biology.  A staff and supercomputer would be nice, but I work with what I've got. It helps me pass the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 20:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:P</description>
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		<title>By: C. R. Stucki</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. R. Stucki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 18:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kick

OK, characterize your political ideology as you wish, but you keep getting ensnared in the old &quot;Walks like . . ., swims like a  . . ., quacks like a . . ., etc.  Ergo, no apology for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kick</p>
<p>OK, characterize your political ideology as you wish, but you keep getting ensnared in the old "Walks like . . ., swims like a  . . ., quacks like a . . ., etc.  Ergo, no apology for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 18:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C. R. Stucki
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&lt;i&gt;My response to [13] was appropriate to her to whom it was addressed. &lt;/i&gt;

Her to whom it was addressed disagrees with you, but then &quot;you righties&quot; equate Donald Trump with &quot;benevolent generosity.&quot; Just kidding. 

&lt;i&gt;If I offended you by pluralizing the term &quot;Lefty&quot;, causing you to conclude that I was thereby including you in a collective in which you do not actually belong, you have my apology. &lt;/i&gt;

Now do me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C. R. Stucki<br />
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<p><i>My response to [13] was appropriate to her to whom it was addressed. </i></p>
<p>Her to whom it was addressed disagrees with you, but then "you righties" equate Donald Trump with "benevolent generosity." Just kidding. </p>
<p><i>If I offended you by pluralizing the term "Lefty", causing you to conclude that I was thereby including you in a collective in which you do not actually belong, you have my apology. </i></p>
<p>Now do me. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/04/02/americans-rediscover-shared-sacrifice/#comment-156955</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 18:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

My first response to you above is a prime example of why I need to stop replying until I read the whole thing. Why do I do that? Don&#039;t answer that!

Anyway, I thought your country WAS doing all of that, including wage subsidies.

Here in Canada, starting April 6, all Canadians, can apply for the CERB, a Canadian coronavirus emergency benefit. It will be $500/week for 16 weeks. Anyone who has filed for employment insurance benefits after March 15, will automatically be enrolled in this benefit - I&#039;m guessing right now that we will receive EI or the CERB, whichever is more.

And, Canada is providing a 75% wage subsidy to Canadian business - small to large- to keep their employees on the payroll through this crisis. It&#039;s still unclear how that will work.

But, again, I wish reporters would stop fretting about the high unemployment rate because this is a good sign that non-essential business has shut down as part of the effort the stop this virus.

It doesn&#039;t make any sense to me that people are talking about this crisis in terms of an economic downturn and being shocked by what are really inevitable numbers when what is really happening is not an &quot;economic downturn&quot; in the classic sense but a serious health crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>My first response to you above is a prime example of why I need to stop replying until I read the whole thing. Why do I do that? Don't answer that!</p>
<p>Anyway, I thought your country WAS doing all of that, including wage subsidies.</p>
<p>Here in Canada, starting April 6, all Canadians, can apply for the CERB, a Canadian coronavirus emergency benefit. It will be $500/week for 16 weeks. Anyone who has filed for employment insurance benefits after March 15, will automatically be enrolled in this benefit - I'm guessing right now that we will receive EI or the CERB, whichever is more.</p>
<p>And, Canada is providing a 75% wage subsidy to Canadian business - small to large- to keep their employees on the payroll through this crisis. It's still unclear how that will work.</p>
<p>But, again, I wish reporters would stop fretting about the high unemployment rate because this is a good sign that non-essential business has shut down as part of the effort the stop this virus.</p>
<p>It doesn't make any sense to me that people are talking about this crisis in terms of an economic downturn and being shocked by what are really inevitable numbers when what is really happening is not an "economic downturn" in the classic sense but a serious health crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 18:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stucki
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&lt;i&gt;Re your &quot;Protect the general welfare&quot; (thira para)

Without bothering to check, I seem to recall the constitutional phrase you refer to is actually &#039;&quot;Promote&quot; the general welfare&#039;, &lt;/i&gt;

Without bothering to check, of course you are 100% correct. It&#039;s &quot;insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare...&quot; etc. 

Good catch, Stucki. 

&lt;i&gt;and the founder&#039;s definition of &quot;welfare&quot; did NOT align with the modern usage of the term which actually you lefties equate to &#039;charity&#039;, or perhaps something akin to&#039;benevolent generosity&#039;. &lt;/i&gt;

Well, I&#039;m still not a lefty, and I can assure you for a fact that there is no magic number of times that all manner of people claiming I&#039;m a lefty is going to magically turn me into one. I also don&#039;t believe the vast majority of lefties equate the term &quot;welfare&quot; in the preamble to &quot;charity&quot; or &quot;generosity&quot; either. 

I think those phrases &quot;establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare...&quot; etc. contained in the preamble explaining why &quot;the People&quot; were establishing the Constitution for themselves and future generations have the fairly self-explanatory meaning of their concern for the law and order, peace, health, and safety of the citizenry of the United States and their descendants (&quot;our posterity&quot;). 

It&#039;s pretty basic stuff akin to the &quot;life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness&quot; the people believed government was instituted in order to protect... paraphrasing from the Declaration of Independence, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stucki<br />
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<p><i>Re your "Protect the general welfare" (thira para)</p>
<p>Without bothering to check, I seem to recall the constitutional phrase you refer to is actually '"Promote" the general welfare', </i></p>
<p>Without bothering to check, of course you are 100% correct. It's "insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare..." etc. </p>
<p>Good catch, Stucki. </p>
<p><i>and the founder's definition of "welfare" did NOT align with the modern usage of the term which actually you lefties equate to 'charity', or perhaps something akin to'benevolent generosity'. </i></p>
<p>Well, I'm still not a lefty, and I can assure you for a fact that there is no magic number of times that all manner of people claiming I'm a lefty is going to magically turn me into one. I also don't believe the vast majority of lefties equate the term "welfare" in the preamble to "charity" or "generosity" either. </p>
<p>I think those phrases "establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare..." etc. contained in the preamble explaining why "the People" were establishing the Constitution for themselves and future generations have the fairly self-explanatory meaning of their concern for the law and order, peace, health, and safety of the citizenry of the United States and their descendants ("our posterity"). </p>
<p>It's pretty basic stuff akin to the "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" the people believed government was instituted in order to protect... paraphrasing from the Declaration of Independence, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
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		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 17:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stucki- [22]

So, you are a Trump supporter...

Just can&#039;t help yourself can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stucki- [22]</p>
<p>So, you are a Trump supporter...</p>
<p>Just can't help yourself can you?</p>
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		<title>By: C. R. Stucki</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. R. Stucki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 17:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bashi  [20]

My response to [13] was appropriate to her to whom it was addressed.  If I offended you by pluralizing the term &quot;Lefty&quot;, causing you to conclude that I was thereby including you in a collective in which you do not actually belong, you have my apology.

poet  [19]

You nailed it kid.  I wish the lefties (NOT including Bashi) were smart enough to grasp that verity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bashi  [20]</p>
<p>My response to [13] was appropriate to her to whom it was addressed.  If I offended you by pluralizing the term "Lefty", causing you to conclude that I was thereby including you in a collective in which you do not actually belong, you have my apology.</p>
<p>poet  [19]</p>
<p>You nailed it kid.  I wish the lefties (NOT including Bashi) were smart enough to grasp that verity.</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 16:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stucki-

&lt;i&gt;you lefties&lt;/i&gt;

I had not realized you were such a strong Trump supporter. I mean, if you keep lumping the entire left in to one convenient group to make assumptions about, the flip side would mean the right is a single congruous group and that would make you a Trump supporter. Or a hypocrite, take your pick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stucki-</p>
<p><i>you lefties</i></p>
<p>I had not realized you were such a strong Trump supporter. I mean, if you keep lumping the entire left in to one convenient group to make assumptions about, the flip side would mean the right is a single congruous group and that would make you a Trump supporter. Or a hypocrite, take your pick...</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 16:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@crs,
welfare the federal program is not the same as welfare the general state of being. welfare in the broadest sense equates with physical and mental health, and has for over 300 years.
JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@crs,<br />
welfare the federal program is not the same as welfare the general state of being. welfare in the broadest sense equates with physical and mental health, and has for over 300 years.<br />
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point Don was trying to make is a good one.

Unless you are sick, in which case you should be at home, or you are caring for someone who is sick, then frequent hand washing and respiratory etiquette and keeping your 2m distance and staying at home as much as possible is far more effective in the battle against the virus than wearing a mask and that these behaviors are what will get us through this health crisis.

By the way, has anyone heard about president Trump asking 3M NOT to send US-made respirators to Canada or Latin America? Thankfully, 3M is mounting a very strong pushback on that. 

Thank-you 3M!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point Don was trying to make is a good one.</p>
<p>Unless you are sick, in which case you should be at home, or you are caring for someone who is sick, then frequent hand washing and respiratory etiquette and keeping your 2m distance and staying at home as much as possible is far more effective in the battle against the virus than wearing a mask and that these behaviors are what will get us through this health crisis.</p>
<p>By the way, has anyone heard about president Trump asking 3M NOT to send US-made respirators to Canada or Latin America? Thankfully, 3M is mounting a very strong pushback on that. </p>
<p>Thank-you 3M!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 15:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TS,

I would suggest that the best resource you should focus on, these days, would be the daily briefings of the World Health Organization.</description>
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<p>I would suggest that the best resource you should focus on, these days, would be the daily briefings of the World Health Organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 15:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

&lt;I&gt;I would like to know why the USA is allowing unemployment to rise so high so fast when this doesn&#039;t have to be the case. Other nations like Denmark are taking a different tack.&lt;/I&gt;

Of course, unemployment is going to rise - everything is shut down, except for essential services!

In Canada, as in your country and other countries, millions of people, myself included, have applied for (un)employment insurance benefits. Of course, that is the case. 

I don&#039;t understand why people, especially in the media, are falling off their chairs reporting this unprecedented rise in filings.

Yes, our economies are shut down. But, we are not in an economic crisis. We are in a health crisis, for God&#039;s sake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p><i>I would like to know why the USA is allowing unemployment to rise so high so fast when this doesn't have to be the case. Other nations like Denmark are taking a different tack.</i></p>
<p>Of course, unemployment is going to rise - everything is shut down, except for essential services!</p>
<p>In Canada, as in your country and other countries, millions of people, myself included, have applied for (un)employment insurance benefits. Of course, that is the case. </p>
<p>I don't understand why people, especially in the media, are falling off their chairs reporting this unprecedented rise in filings.</p>
<p>Yes, our economies are shut down. But, we are not in an economic crisis. We are in a health crisis, for God's sake!</p>
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		<dc:creator>C. R. Stucki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 13:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, make that read &#039;thirD para&#039;</description>
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		<title>By: C. R. Stucki</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. R. Stucki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 13:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kick

Re your &quot;Protect the general welfare&quot; (thira para)

Without bothering to check, I seem to recall the constitutional phrase you refer to is actually &#039;&quot;Promote&quot; the general welfare&#039;, and the founder&#039;s definition of &quot;welfare&quot; did NOT align with the modern usage of the term which actually you lefties equate to &#039;charity&#039;, or perhaps something akin to&#039;benevolent generosity&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kick</p>
<p>Re your "Protect the general welfare" (thira para)</p>
<p>Without bothering to check, I seem to recall the constitutional phrase you refer to is actually '"Promote" the general welfare', and the founder's definition of "welfare" did NOT align with the modern usage of the term which actually you lefties equate to 'charity', or perhaps something akin to'benevolent generosity'.</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 13:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CW: &lt;i&gt;What&#039;s going to be more frustrating is if we&#039;re eventually given a sort of &quot;all clear&quot; signal, and life begins to return to some semblance of normality -- and then the coronavirus comes back again. &lt;/i&gt;

Excellent column, CW. Here you have touched on what I personally find to be the most frustrating part of this entire ordeal: The &quot;not knowing&quot; regarding all manner of things. Being ill and not knowing whether you have the disease because testing is denied. Getting over an unbelievably fatiguing illness that knocks you flat and wondering if you&#039;ve had it but not knowing. Distancing yourself while not knowing whether you have antibodies to (somewhat) protect you from reinfection wherein you could be on the front lines versus sitting on the sidelines. 

&lt;i&gt;But perhaps this is being too pessimistic. &lt;/i&gt;

There is no such thing as too much pessimism when a pandemic is sweeping across our planet at the exact same time China and America are both being lead by pathological lying narcissists who believed they could ignore a deadly virus and/or con it out of existence, emotionally needy leaders -- who don&#039;t believe in science -- making decisions at the highest levels of government that affect not just their two countries but people in a multitude of countries all over the world. 

&lt;i&gt;The American people do have a reserve of shared sacrifice we haven&#039;t dipped into in a long time, which could see us through this.&lt;/i&gt;

Amen to that brother, and it&#039;s &quot;We the People&quot; who are going to have to get America through this because the so-called &quot;pro-life&quot; Party and their ilk have proven time and time again that their interest in &quot;life&quot; basically ends at birth; after that, you&#039;re pretty much on your own and left to your own devices. Their oaths to &quot;protect the general welfare&quot; don&#039;t seem to interest them, and science is something they&#039;re generally busy knee-jerk denying.  

At a time when facts are under assault at the highest levels of government on multiple continents, science is indeed our way out of this. Yesterday the FDA approved a new test for coronavirus antibodies, the first of its kind that&#039;s been approved for use in the United States. The test can be completed in about 15 minutes and identifies protective antibodies in a finger prick of blood and whether or not a person has ever been exposed to the virus and may have built some immunity. 

Also, five critically ill patients with COVID-19 disease who were relying on ventilators were given antibody-rich plasma from five other patients who had already recovered from COVID-19 disease. Three of them were discharged from the hospital, and two of them were in stable condition at the time of the report:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Treatment of 5 Critically Ill Patients With COVID-19 With Convalescent Plasma

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763983?resultClick=1 &lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s the beginning of a way out, and science has delivered it. Wonder how many hoops we&#039;ll have to jump through to obtain this test? We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CW: <i>What's going to be more frustrating is if we're eventually given a sort of "all clear" signal, and life begins to return to some semblance of normality -- and then the coronavirus comes back again. </i></p>
<p>Excellent column, CW. Here you have touched on what I personally find to be the most frustrating part of this entire ordeal: The "not knowing" regarding all manner of things. Being ill and not knowing whether you have the disease because testing is denied. Getting over an unbelievably fatiguing illness that knocks you flat and wondering if you've had it but not knowing. Distancing yourself while not knowing whether you have antibodies to (somewhat) protect you from reinfection wherein you could be on the front lines versus sitting on the sidelines. </p>
<p><i>But perhaps this is being too pessimistic. </i></p>
<p>There is no such thing as too much pessimism when a pandemic is sweeping across our planet at the exact same time China and America are both being lead by pathological lying narcissists who believed they could ignore a deadly virus and/or con it out of existence, emotionally needy leaders -- who don't believe in science -- making decisions at the highest levels of government that affect not just their two countries but people in a multitude of countries all over the world. </p>
<p><i>The American people do have a reserve of shared sacrifice we haven't dipped into in a long time, which could see us through this.</i></p>
<p>Amen to that brother, and it's "We the People" who are going to have to get America through this because the so-called "pro-life" Party and their ilk have proven time and time again that their interest in "life" basically ends at birth; after that, you're pretty much on your own and left to your own devices. Their oaths to "protect the general welfare" don't seem to interest them, and science is something they're generally busy knee-jerk denying.  </p>
<p>At a time when facts are under assault at the highest levels of government on multiple continents, science is indeed our way out of this. Yesterday the FDA approved a new test for coronavirus antibodies, the first of its kind that's been approved for use in the United States. The test can be completed in about 15 minutes and identifies protective antibodies in a finger prick of blood and whether or not a person has ever been exposed to the virus and may have built some immunity. </p>
<p>Also, five critically ill patients with COVID-19 disease who were relying on ventilators were given antibody-rich plasma from five other patients who had already recovered from COVID-19 disease. Three of them were discharged from the hospital, and two of them were in stable condition at the time of the report:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Treatment of 5 Critically Ill Patients With COVID-19 With Convalescent Plasma</p>
<p><a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763983?resultClick=1" rel="nofollow">https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763983?resultClick=1</a> </p></blockquote>
<p>There's the beginning of a way out, and science has delivered it. Wonder how many hoops we'll have to jump through to obtain this test? We'll see.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 12:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EM-2

Thanks for that excellent link.  We in the US can learn a lot from the Chinese. I think the &quot;IKEA style&quot; isolation hospitals were brilliant. That said, the biggest thing going for the Chinese people seems to be the much lower death rate associated with their epidemic - 2% of infected patients versus about 35% for US patients. I don&#039;t believe their medical system explains this.  Previous exposure to COVART viruses does. See the Seafood and &quot;bushmeat&quot; sections of the article.  This an old story in the field of epidemiology... smallpox, measles, polio etc. &quot;Natural Immunization.&quot;</description>
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<p>Thanks for that excellent link.  We in the US can learn a lot from the Chinese. I think the "IKEA style" isolation hospitals were brilliant. That said, the biggest thing going for the Chinese people seems to be the much lower death rate associated with their epidemic - 2% of infected patients versus about 35% for US patients. I don't believe their medical system explains this.  Previous exposure to COVART viruses does. See the Seafood and "bushmeat" sections of the article.  This an old story in the field of epidemiology... smallpox, measles, polio etc. "Natural Immunization."</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 12:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EM-2

Thanks for the excellent link.  We in the US can learn a lot from the Chinese. I think the &quot;IKEA style&quot; isolation hospitals were brilliant. That said, the biggest thing going for the Chinese people seems to be the much lower death rate associated with their epidemic - 2% of infected patients versus about 35% for US patients. I don&#039;t believe their medical system explains this.  Previous exposure to COVART viruses does. See the Seafood and &quot;bushmeat&quot; sections of the article.  This an old story in the field of epidemiology... smallpox, measles, polio etc. &quot;Natural Immunization.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EM-2</p>
<p>Thanks for the excellent link.  We in the US can learn a lot from the Chinese. I think the "IKEA style" isolation hospitals were brilliant. That said, the biggest thing going for the Chinese people seems to be the much lower death rate associated with their epidemic - 2% of infected patients versus about 35% for US patients. I don't believe their medical system explains this.  Previous exposure to COVART viruses does. See the Seafood and "bushmeat" sections of the article.  This an old story in the field of epidemiology... smallpox, measles, polio etc. "Natural Immunization."</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know why the USA is allowing unemployment to rise so high so fast when this doesn&#039;t have to be the case.

Other nations like Denmark are taking a different tack.

The government there has basically taken over the job of paying employers to keep employees on the payroll for as long as possible.

Why can&#039;t the USA do the same thing?

You have industry X. The government gives industry X 50 billion dollars to pay employee payroll. That money can&#039;t be used for anything else, not stock buybacks, not CEO salary, etc. but ONLY for employee paychecks.

Instead of being laid off, the employee keeps getting their regular paycheck from the company, through a government loan or grant, whether they are at work or at home simply doing nothing, for the duration of the crisis.

When the crisis is over, the employee goes right back to doing the same job they were doing before, instead of going through the process of having to find a new job all over again. In the meantime, they have had money for food, rent, etc. 

Is America not doing this simply because of some short-sighted aversion to supposedly having the government pay someone to sit home and do nothing? Do we really think most people would be comfortable just staying home forever not doing anything? Sure some percentage might, but MOST people want or need to work, if for nothing else than to feel productive, useful, have a sense of self worth, or not go stir crazy. 

Perhaps Andrew Yang&#039;s idea of a universal basic income isn&#039;t looking like such a bad idea after all, rather than &quot;traditional welfare?&quot;

Maybe it&#039;s time to try thinking outside the box?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know why the USA is allowing unemployment to rise so high so fast when this doesn't have to be the case.</p>
<p>Other nations like Denmark are taking a different tack.</p>
<p>The government there has basically taken over the job of paying employers to keep employees on the payroll for as long as possible.</p>
<p>Why can't the USA do the same thing?</p>
<p>You have industry X. The government gives industry X 50 billion dollars to pay employee payroll. That money can't be used for anything else, not stock buybacks, not CEO salary, etc. but ONLY for employee paychecks.</p>
<p>Instead of being laid off, the employee keeps getting their regular paycheck from the company, through a government loan or grant, whether they are at work or at home simply doing nothing, for the duration of the crisis.</p>
<p>When the crisis is over, the employee goes right back to doing the same job they were doing before, instead of going through the process of having to find a new job all over again. In the meantime, they have had money for food, rent, etc. </p>
<p>Is America not doing this simply because of some short-sighted aversion to supposedly having the government pay someone to sit home and do nothing? Do we really think most people would be comfortable just staying home forever not doing anything? Sure some percentage might, but MOST people want or need to work, if for nothing else than to feel productive, useful, have a sense of self worth, or not go stir crazy. </p>
<p>Perhaps Andrew Yang's idea of a universal basic income isn't looking like such a bad idea after all, rather than "traditional welfare?"</p>
<p>Maybe it's time to try thinking outside the box?</p>
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		<dc:creator>John From Censornati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 00:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll believe that Americans have learned something when they start to realize that the people living through our wars without end are dealing with real hardship and maybe we should stop that. We&#039;re on a stupid cruise ship and our voyage won&#039;t last 20 years, but a month? We&#039;re not going to be better off in a month, but at least Big Orange is #1 on Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll believe that Americans have learned something when they start to realize that the people living through our wars without end are dealing with real hardship and maybe we should stop that. We're on a stupid cruise ship and our voyage won't last 20 years, but a month? We're not going to be better off in a month, but at least Big Orange is #1 on Facebook.</p>
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		<dc:creator>C. R. Stucki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 00:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proposed slogan for the duration of the crisis - &#039;6 Ft apart or 6 Ft under!&#039;</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 00:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, here&#039;s another great piece from the South China Morning Post ... everything you need to know about how we got to where we are with this novel coronavirus, including some things you&#039;d really rather not know.

https://multimedia.scmp.com/infographics/news/china/article/3047038/wuhan-virus/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, here's another great piece from the South China Morning Post ... everything you need to know about how we got to where we are with this novel coronavirus, including some things you'd really rather not know.</p>
<p><a href="https://multimedia.scmp.com/infographics/news/china/article/3047038/wuhan-virus/index.html" rel="nofollow">https://multimedia.scmp.com/infographics/news/china/article/3047038/wuhan-virus/index.html</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2020 00:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we focus on all of the opportunities that these stay at home orders allow, then it&#039;s probably a good bet that we&#039;ll find all sorts of things to do that will keep the frustration levels at a bare minimum if there is any frustration at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we focus on all of the opportunities that these stay at home orders allow, then it's probably a good bet that we'll find all sorts of things to do that will keep the frustration levels at a bare minimum if there is any frustration at all!</p>
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