Michale did not provide any relevant information.

Factually not accurate.

What's wrong with you!?? :D

I did not provide relevant information to your bullshit because your information was... well... bullshit.. :D

As I kill time waiting for a real discussion from an adult, what does the question "if there was no evidence how could it be presented?" have to do with evidence that existed not being presented?

So, basically when you are proven wrong, you simply deny that the discussion is relevant and label it as "nonsense"..

Liz, is that you!?? :D

If you don't like your arguments always shot done, then come up with better arguments...

Hey, Michale! Hows about we end on this one …

You expect me to click on that link!!!??? :D

And in the early stages of a pandemic, the false positives will FAR FAR exceed the real positives and will do more harm than good...

This is fact...

And it's ALL irrelevant..

The *ONLY* relevant questions are A> Did Officer Wilson have a fear for his life and B> Was that fear rational and legitimate and reasonable...

All the facts point to YES..

It was a good shoot.. PERIOD..

Even cop hater Odumbo said so thru his DOJ...

End of story.. PERIOD...

Two guys, both impervious to information, duke it out.

Information is like "truth"... Subjective and at the mercy of whims and bigotry..

Come talk to me when you have FACTS... mmm K?? :D

It would be wonderful if we were actually able to test just the individuals who show symptoms or have been in contact with people who have shown symptoms...but we are no where near being able to do that! This article is postulating something that has not occurred and that the likelihood of it occurring is next to nil!

Of course doctors are aware that the tests can give false positives. What this author must not have known was that the just over 5200 test kits that were reported having been run in the first weeks of the outbreak were used to test just over 1500 individuals! That basically means, on average, each patient required at least 3 test kits to determine their status. The medical community is well aware of the damage false positives cause and how they skew the data is interpreted.

Yes, I do not dispute that but I would point out that the “pause” you are mentioning was measured in milliseconds. I would also point out that the documentary obviously failed to mention that the physical evidence also supported the testimony that Brown was starting to charge the officer. The movements seen in the video could be either...and only Brown could tell us which it actually was. Brown lunged forward— either to drop to his knees or to start his charge of the officer — in that second he was killed.

I cannot remember if the Atlantic or The Republic that did a big expose on the Prosecutor’s handling of the grand jury, but it was fascinating. The prosecutor didn’t have to be totally transparent with all of the evidence and testimony that the grand jury heard and saw, but he did it to silence those who he knew would claim it was fixed no matter what the outcome was.

https://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-Lkry-SF01&hsimp=yhs-SF01&hspart=Lkry&p=Prism+performs+armageddon+with+ron+tabak#id=1&vid=d8f9577af6ccccf44e213e58a794623d&action=click

PRiSM performs Armageddon … this was a pretty big one, even in your country.

To see why this might be the case, I draw upon this thread from Dr. Sterling Haring at Vanderbilt University, as well as my own statistical background. Like him, rather than walking through the actual math of Bayes Rule (I explore it here), I utilize 2x2 charts. We’ll start with the claim from Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine last Thursday that 100,000 people in Ohio were infected. That seems high, but let’s take it. That works out to a little less than 1% of the state’s population having the virus. So we have a society that looks something like this:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/18/the_perils_of_mass_coronavirus_testing_142693.html

Apparently, there are MANY downsides to mass testing..

Good call, Liz..

Good thing we have President Trump in charge...

Wonder Woman is said to be in mourning...

:D

Trump calls himself a ‘wartime president’ over coronavirus as he invokes Defense Production Act
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-announces-he-is-invoking-defense-production-act-to-fight-coronavirus

Gods, it's great that we have President Trump..

Hillary would have been just as incompetent as Odumbo in dealing with this.. Causing ANOTHER 12,000+ dead Americans..

Way ta go, Mr President!!! :D

I still like you... But I call out bullshit no matter WHERE it comes from..

And the idea that Officer Darren Wilson killed Michael Brown out of ANYTHING but self-defense and that it was a bad shoot is the purest form of bullshit ever conceived...

Joe Pantoliano had "money hairs" on the back of his neck in CONGO..

I have "logic hairs" on the back of my neck..

And they bristle and stand to in the presence of bullshit..

Is there anything in the grand jury testimony about any people that did not testify or evidence not presented?

If there was no evidence, how could it be presented???

According to the documentary the Obama administration just rubber stamped the report from the state or prosecutor, I don't remember for sure the exact origin of the state level report.

Yea.. Cuz Barack THE COPS ACTED STUPIDLY Odumbo was SO pro-white-cop, eh??

You have yet to provide ANY facts on this alleged documentary..

But I really don't care all that much to bother with all the nonsense. I just asked a simple question hoping for a real answer instead of childish games to avoid a rational discussion.

You didn't ask a simple question..

You didn't ask ANY question..

You made a claim and did not substantiate it with facts..

What is wrong with you?

Nothing is wrong with me..

You bring up alleged facts, get all pissy when asked to substantiate and then claim you never brought up the subject..

You did not..

We only have your word that this documentary actually exists..

On the other side of the = sign, we have the FACTS of the grand jury testimony AND the findings of the Odumbo administration..

So...

ONE side.. Your claim..

Other side.. FACTS...

Hmmmmm

"Oh gee... Let me think..."
-Jamie Lee Curtis, TRUE LIES

:D

Hypocrisy is alive and thriving in the Senate. It appears you can have both ways if you know your constituency is as morally bankrupt as you are.

It looks like a Democrat will have to clean up another Republican's fiscal mess upon arrival in the White House.

LL&P

Hay now!! Let's not be... er... eh... huh?? What you say???

Yep, I am correct..

Just like I was correct about Trump being elected..

Just like I was correct about the Russia Collusion delusion not going ANYWHERE...

Just like I was correct about the Dumbocrats and their faux impeachment coup..

Just like I was correct about President Trump ALWAYS winning thru the courts..

Just like I was correct about EVERYTHING to do with President Trump.. :D

Thank you for finally conceding this..

If you are gonna quote me, the least you could do is be accurate!

I did.. Those are your words.. Verbatim...

You admitted you don't care that millions of Americans have been attacked, assaulted, robbed, raped, murdered and killed by illegal immigrant criminals..

You admitted it.. Live with it..

Again, your own dishonesty is so obvious that it is almost funny. I never referred to myself as a “911 receiver”; I was a “911 CALL receiver”! My official job title was “Level IV Communications Officer/Operator”, but my job was best described as a “call receiver” or “call taker”.

Yea, I already caught you in a lie.. You are full of shit.. The closest you came to a 911 operator is when you had to call one because you were being incessantly bullied by the kids in your neighborhood..

You have been exposed as a liar.. Live with it..

The FACT that you didn't provide ANY facts to support this alleged documentary you claim to have seen..

Not sure if you saw this as I posted it on the previous article before realizing CW had posted this one, but I did want you to see it...so here it goes:

FPC [58]

Liz,

Demanding more testing seems a bit quaint at this point. The virus is winning and it needs to be stopped with decisive action by governments and social distancing by all of us.

Sorry, Liz, but you could not be more wrong! Testing is the key to defeating this virus. The problem in the US is that we do not have an accurate understanding of the scope of infected people - their numbers, location, where they were exposed to the virus - to make a case for the more drastic measures needed to combat an epidemic.

We don’t have the tests needed in this country to make an accurate guess at the actual number of people infected or the number of people who have died from the virus. Without that data, it is impossible to know the extent of the precautions necessary to combat it. President Trump’s refusal to admit the severity of the coronavirus for two months has cost us dearly.

Unlike Michale, I don’t blame the President for the deaths caused by this or any other illness. Michale thinks he’s cleverly drawing attention away from the fact that he cannot defend Trump’s clusterduck handling of this emergency, but he’s just lying to himself and is the only one gullible enough to fall for it.

Testing is essential to knowing when the virus has run its course, as well. It also is the only way to know if the virus mutates and becomes a bigger threat that must be handled in a different way. So, no, more testing is NOT a bit quaint — it is a MUST!

Racism aside, when the forensic evidence and the officer's statements clearly shows that the officer that shot Michael Brown shot him in the head when he was no longer a threat and the prosecutor did not put witnesses on the stand to testify to this that were at the scene while admitting he put a person on the stand to testify that Michael Brown was charging the officer that the prosecutor admitted he knew was not at the scene, would you admit whether or not that was caused by racism it is a problem?

Sorry, but this is one of those unique instances where Michale is correct! It is such a rare occasion that we should all take a moment of silence to celebrate the significance of Michale having anything to do with the truth!

The prosecutor chose to allow the grand jury hear from EVERY person who claimed to have been a witness to the incident, regardless of whether they were considered a reliable witness in the hopes of avoiding being accused of denying people the right to testify on Brown’s behalf.

The prosecutor allowed witnesses that came forward to offer whatever they wanted to tell the grand jury, and once they said everything that they wanted to be on the record, he then asked the witnesses questions that caused the witnesses to show that they were lying. The woman that you described DID lie, but that was made abundantly clear to the grand jury so that they could ignore her testimony when they made their decision on the charges.

Interesting fact (not FACT) about the witnesses: those that claimed that Brown was trying to turn himself in when the officer shot him did not witness the entire incident — they only became aware of it after the first shots were fired. Those witnesses who said Brown was charging the officer when he was killed all had witnessed Brown trying to disarm the officer through the officer’s driver side window prior to the first shot being fired.

Those that saw the entire conflict play out saw it very differently than those that only caught a glimpse of what occurred — which is why witness testimony should be considered far less reliable than hard physical evidence is.

Oh goodie! Michale’s “FACTS” are back — those utterly bullshit lies that Michale repeats to himself

I don’t care about the millions murdered, assaulted, raped and killed by illegal immigrants

If you are gonna quote me, the least you could do is be accurate!

Oh goodie! Michale’s “FACTS” are back — those utterly bullshit lies that Michale repeats to himself to help him reach orgasm. By all means, share the numbers and where your data comes from! I don’t care about the millions murdered, assaulted, raped and killed by illegal immigrants because they ONLY EXIST IN YOUR SCARY MASTURBATION FANTASIES ABOUT DONALD TRUMP!

God, you are pathetic! You can’t even tell lies that aren’t easy to refute and that don’t expose your own dishonesty!

FPC:

It’s been over ten years since I worked as a 911 call receiver,

The technology should allow dispatchers to locate cell phone users much quicker than the current analog system.
https://www.wrcbtv.com/story/13139890/tn-911-upgrade-to-allow-texts-photos-video

Again, your own dishonesty is so obvious that it is almost funny. I never referred to myself as a “911 receiver”; I was a “911 CALL receiver”! My official job title was “Level IV Communications Officer/Operator”, but my job was best described as a “call receiver” or “call taker”.

You had to really work to find a ten year old story that supported your stupid claim! The hardware is not technically referred to as “receivers”, either. Typically it is referred to as “trunks” — a computerized system that takes the ANI (caller’s phone number) and matches it to the ALI (automatic location identification — from databases for landlines and from GPS or triangulation from cell towers for cell phones.)

Once again, you and your lies got shut down!

Please provide links to this "evidence"... I am betting we'll find it's nothing but Left Wing propaganda..

You can as always have a different interpretation of the evidence but it is available or even make another ridiculous demand that it be provided for you.

You are entitled to your own interpretation but you are not entitled to your own facts..

It's not allowed..

You are in error... Or delusional...

Complete and utter bullshit..

EVEN if it were true, do you have ANY facts that PROVE race was a factor..

ANY facts at all??

No you do not..

Go ahead.. Mention Trayvon Martin.

I double-dog DARE you!!! :D

If you run out of food, look for homes that have Democrat Party signs..

They don't have any guns...

:D

Like the hoaxes that tried to show institutionalized racism but were nothing but bullshit hoaxes..

Jussie Smollett... Trayvon Martin... Michael Brown... Tawana Brawley...

Any claim of institutionalized racism is a hoax because no such institutionalized racism exists..

Epic fail..

Point to me incidents, not statistics..

Incidents of institutionalized racism in the manner of Affirmative Action..

You can't because none exists..

As I said.. Epic Fail..

"I am open to being corrected with FACTS..

Give me an example of institutionalized racism that is supported by FACTS..

Put up or shut up and go away.."

FINE, but I doubt you will READ any of it, change your mind, or even consider the evidence without dismissing it because of your own bias against the sources:

Andrews, Edmund. "Stanford researchers develop new statistical test that shows racial profiling in police traffic stops." Stanford News, June 28, 2016.

Greenberg, Daniel. "Increasing Support for Religiously Based Service Refusals." Maxine Najle, Ph.D., Natalie Jackson, Ph.D., et al., Public Religion Research Institute, June 25, 2019.

Tello, Monique, M.D., MPH. "Racism and discrimination in health care: Providers and patients." Harvard Health Publishing, Harvard Medical School, January 16, 2017.

Yan, Holly. "This is why everyday racial profiling is so dangerous." CNN, May 11, 2018.

URBAN WIRE
50 years after Martin Luther King’s death, structural racism still drives the racial wealth gap
Summary: The difference between the average wealth of white families and that of African American families has expanded.
April 6, 2018 | Kilolo Kijakazi

URBAN WIRE
New York City’s school attendance boundaries encourage racial and ethnic segregation?
Summary: New York City’s new school chancellor Richard Carranza has vowed to enact policies that will alleviate school segregation.
September 17, 2018 | Tomas Monarrez

URBAN WIRE
After 50 years of progress and protest, America is still a land of unequal opportunity
Summary: Fifty years ago, the Kerner Commission said we were “moving toward two societies, one black, one white—separate and unequal.”
September 19, 2018 | Margaret Simms

URBAN WIRE
Say African American or Black, but first acknowledge the persistence of structural racism
Summary: Black History Month is an opportunity to confront racism and structural disadvantages faced by black people in the United States.
February 8, 2018 | Margaret Simms

URBAN WIRE
LeBron James says “being black in America is tough.” He’s correct.
Summary: In response to an abhorrent act of vandalism, James offered a reflection on the intersection of race and class in America.
June 2, 2017 | Justin Milner, Steven Brown

URBAN WIRE
White privilege is a routine traffic stop
Summary: Data on police and public encounters isn't always clear, but several studies provide insight on how race might influence the outcomes.
July 22, 2016 | Elaine Waxman

URBAN WIRE
Is American criminal justice color-blind? The statistics say no
July 16, 2013 | John Roman

There is TONS MORE from other sources, IF you only BOTHER to look.

"Kick-
It seems that by now you have clearly established with your nonsensical comments enough evidence to show you deserve a refund from your college.

Or is there some other reason for posting your comments?

Liz was referring to the presidential primaries in regard to shaking up the primary calendar.`

I don't expect the current Congress to do anything, but the Constitution clearly gives them the power to if we had a Congress that worked for ordinary citizens instead of the big money interests.

A Congress taking this action would not be stripping any power from the states regarding the presidential primaries in question.

Congress would be exercising it's power under the Constitution"

Actually, this is NOT correct. The Constitution gives Congress the Power over how to CONDUCT FEDERAL elections.

Primaries are a different animal entirely!

Primaries are how a PRIVATE group, in this case a POLITICAL PARTY CHOOSES it's REPRESENTATIVE.

As such, Congress actually has NO SAY in HOW that is done. The DNC or RNC could just say our candidate will be..insert name here...for national office WITHOUT HOLDING ANY PRIMARIES AT ALL.

Fine..

I am open to being corrected with FACTS..

Give me an example of institutionalized racism that is supported by FACTS..

Put up or shut up and go away..

"With the exception of Affirmative Action, institutionalized racism is dead in the US.. It died the day we elected a black man as POTUS..."

This has got to be the MOST IDIOTIC thing ever said! It just goes to show how CLUELESS you are as an older white male!

Just because ONE person of color manages to get elected to ONE office does not mean institutional racism is gone. One Black manager or one Black police chief doesn't change a whole organization's culture over night!!!

Ask ANY of your fellow African American citizens if they feel like institutional racism is dead in this country, and see what kind of response you get, I DOUBLE DARE YOU.

Just because we had one Black president doesn't end ENTRENCHED BIAS in places like many small town law enforcement sheriff's offices, prosecutor's offices. etc. spread out across a vast continental country of over 300 million.

For you to insist on believing otherwise is pure fallacy.

So the facts substantiate themselves as facts...

Can you provide a single example??

Is there some way you can substantiate they are not facts and that conventional political wisdom is not interpretation of those facts?

Didn't you say you can't prove a negative???

Human nature. A Mrs. Doubtfire answer if there ever was one.

Mrs Doubtfire is a fictional character. Like Professor John Gill...

Human nature is a real and tangible thing..

eyeroll.

You have to put it in colons or it's just an errant word that is meaningless....

That is just the facts.

Substantiation???

The question is why is it relied on and treated as gospel that cannot be questioned when it is so often wrong?

Human nature..

200-odd years of history and precedent..

Oooohhh Now THAT is an interesting theory.. :D

Would serve Democrats right!!

Why do you still doubt it is time to fire Biden and the rest of the people responsible for creating the problems that have left us in the position we are now?

And replace them with..... who, exactly??

"Russians don't take a dump without a plan, son..."
-Fred Dalton Thomas, THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER

It seems to me that it's best to have your assets in place and a plan BEFORE firing Biden et al..

Eh???

Christian doom-sayers and fear-mongers are preaching calm and rational thought...

This is not the end of the world, according to Christians who study the end of the world
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/this-is-not-the-end-of-the-world-according-to-christians-who-study-the-end-of-the-world/ar-BB11jYQm

And the GOVERNMENT is preaching hysteria and END OF THE WORLD panic...

CW nailed it..

Surely a sign of the End Of Days

:D

If you don't, yer part of the problem, no part of the solution...

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but Liz is dead on ballz accurate..

If we want a cleaner, friendlier Weigantia, like it was in the beginning, it's up to us to police our own borders, so to speak..

Let someone know when they cross a line, no matter WHO it is.. Apply the standards fairly and equally no matter WHAT the political beliefs..

Since the Grand Poobah obviously has a hands off approach (not knocking him, his house, he can do as he wishes) it's up to us to step up..

Simply complaining about the toxicity or applying community standards unfairly and/or punitively based on partisan standards makes things worse.. Not better..

I am willing to do my part, but it's GOTTA be a group effort... No one person can make a difference in here.. Nor even a couple or a few..

I'm just sayin'..

Unlike Michale, I don’t blame the President for the deaths caused by this or any other illness.

Unless that President happens to be President Trump...

Asshole...

Yeah Liz, I'm with you. Sometimes the comments around here simply get too toxic.

Then DO SOMETHING about it!!

You only speak up when it's someone you don't like, politically...

Take a stand against the toxicity, no matter WHERE it comes from... Even if it's someone you politically agree with...

If you don't, yer part of the problem, no part of the solution...

Russ,

Actually, hospitals don’t use that as their “determining factor” for who gets medical treatment!

Given the brave new world we are entering, the world of VERY limited health services and options..

They will...

I completely agree...which is why I didn’t make the claim....YOU ARE THE ONE DOING THAT!

You are the one who brought up suspended license in the context of this discussion..

Man up.. Take responsibility, ya pussy...

Oh goodie! Michale’s “FACTS” are back — those utterly bullshit lies that Michale repeats to himself

Yea, you have ANY facts to back the claim up??

No?? Of course not.. You NEVER do..

I don’t care about the millions murdered, assaulted, raped and killed by illegal immigrants

WOW.... I mean, I knew you always felt this way, but I never expected you to come right out and SAY it..

"I don’t care about the millions murdered, assaulted, raped and killed by illegal immigrants"
-Russ

That's going into the quote-keeper fer sure..

I have to congratulate you on your honesty, Russ..

If nothing else, you proudly admit your Trump/America hate...

Like you take in all of those babies you stopped from being aborted, right?

I would in a heartbeat...

But you and your fellow Dumbocrats KILLED them all before I could be given the chance...

Asshole...

You must be believing Michale's propaganda.

You misspelled "FACTS", Don...

But it is what it is, so count me among the Biden supporters now. I too am all about beating Trump, because nothing else really matters at this point.

So, to sum up... For all the talk of equality and fairness and diversity and intersectionality (STILL don't know what the frak THAT is!!)...

For all the talk of Democrat principles and foundations..

It all goes out the window because hate is now the primary motivator and Democrats NOW just want to win... Diversity and fairness and equality and intersectionality be damned..

Hay, don't get me wrong.. I love it.. It's just more proof of what I have always said...

When it comes down to it, when the rubber meets the road, Democrats are EXACTLY like they accuse Republicans of being...

For all the talk of diversity blaa blaa blaaa, Democrats would rather win and they think that ONLY an old white guy millionaire can win...

I just find that.... hilarious... : D

Yea.. It's called a GENERAL election..

As far as changing the Constitution??

You sure are the patron saint of lost causes, aintcha... :D

Aha!!!

So I was right!!!! :D

I knew it!! :D

OMG, I'm agreeing with you (on SC). A clear sign of the impending apocalypse!

"It's already here..."
-Bill Paxton, TWISTER

:D

Well, Michale, Hillary Clinton is no Joe Biden. Not on her best day.

So, I'd advise against a simple comparison to 2016.

Yer right...

Hillary had such a HUGE'er following of groupies than Biden does today..

Don't kill the messenger.. Facts are facts

[I remain hopeful that comments like #2 will be completely ignored, if not eliminated, from this space.]

Yer the one who is always questioning why people post in past commentaries.. :D

Don't blame me because I am following your rules.. :D

Impressive, but it still has nothing to do with presidential primaries.

Again with the term "presidential primaries" as if the object of the states' primaries and (stupid) caucuses is to merely determine the candidate of the Democratic Party! *shakes head*

If ever you come up with anything that I haven't already previously explained and debunked and is serious discussion instead of bullshit designed to entertain yourself I will respond.

You've neither debunked a thing nor accomplished a scintilla of anything for all your repetitive expletives and exertions, and perhaps you are here to entertain yourself, but I can assure you I suffer no such ridiculous affliction.

Otherwise, I will continue to insult your intelligence in the same way your comments insult the intelligence of other commenters without repeating point by point responses already provided multiple times to your childish nonsense.

If your aim here was to insult someone's intellect, you accomplished that the minute you published your bio to all the commenters on this forum and every person on Earth with a keyboard, an Internet connection, and a mastery of the English language at about a third-grade level. As far as insulting me, you've done nothing remotely whatsoever of the sort, and I reiterate that for all your expletives and exertions, you have acquired bupkis.

You will have to be satisfied with tormenting your alter ego.

And you are demonstrably gleefully and happily accepting of having spent your life accomplishing absolutely nothing as confessed in your bio -- and, of course, as witnessed by your repetitive exertions on this forum -- and not bloody likely to learn anything from that either. Fucking moron. :)

It seems that by now you have clearly established with your nonsensical comments enough evidence to show you deserve a refund from your college.

I recognize this as one of those all too frequent exercises of yours wherein you disparage education because you're quite obviously too ignorant to grasp the truths that are self-evident to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

Or is there some other reason for posting your comments?

Right back at you, Don. Give us your reason. You keep professing your right to comment on the posts of others in whatever manner you wish while screaming hysterically like a stuck pig if anybody deigns to exercise their right to do likewise.

Liz was referring to the presidential primaries in regard to shaking up the primary calendar.`

Maybe it is time to shake up the primary calendar and, as Kick has implied, do away with the caucuses. ~ Elizabeth Miller

Liz didn't say anything about a "presidential" primary, Don; that handiwork was all yours. Also, Liz has definitely proven time and time again to grasp the concept of America and the individual states' primaries than you ever have.

I don't expect the current Congress to do anything, but the Constitution clearly gives them the power to if we had a Congress that worked for ordinary citizens instead of the big money interests.

Our Congress already does work for "ordinary citizens," although I admit without hesitation that some of the less than average among the "ordinary" seem completely incapable of grasping that general concept.

A Congress taking this action would not be stripping any power from the states regarding the presidential primaries in question.

The primary function of the state primaries that you keep referring to as "presidential primaries" isn't to choose a Party's presidential candidate but rather for the states to choose who will represent them at the state and federal level. The people choosing the President of the United States is a modern-day "afterthought"... for want of a better word.

Congress would be exercising it's power under the Constitution.

If any Congress were to collectively mandate the manner in which their individual states were required to choose its own representatives to Congress, they would be stripping their state legislatures of their constitutional rights granted to them therein.

So to recap: I reiterate... with props to CW: The United States of America will become Don's dream of a Utopia and some fantasyland where unicorns fart rainbows and the pixies frolic in the meadow when angels fly out of Don's ass.

Unusual but not out of the question.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your purity fantasy alive.

At least you got the DUH right, even if you don't realize it was a Freudian slip.

Oh, FFS, another dipshit without a degree attempting to equate an unambiguous comment with parapraxis and Freud. *shakes head*

I am beginning to expect that Michale and Kick are the same person with two alter egos so they can argue with each other when no one else wants to bother with their bullshit.

I think you meant you are "beginning to suspect"... blah, blah, blah... followed by your usual nonsensical spew.

I am beginning to suspect you're uneducated. If your bio hadn't given it away, we'd still have all your ridiculous repetitive drivel that reeks with the stench of stupidity without abatement ad nauseam.

So to recap: The United States Constitution, Article I, Section 4 gives each respective state the right to decide for themselves when and how their state's representatives are to be chosen, and I would wager -- without even reading the minutiae of the multitude of differing rules and regulations from all over the United States -- that every single one of them is different. Additionally, any of these states' legislatures can vote to change those voting regulations as prescribed by their individual state statutes and likely whenever they choose to do so.

As I and others have reiterated to you many times, there are only 10 states in the entire country plus DC where ballot access is unrestricted and voters are completely free to write in a candidate as prescribed by your "idea":

* Alabama
* District of Columbia
* Iowa
* New Hampshire
* New Jersey
* Mississippi
* Oregon
* Pennsylvania
* Rhode Island
* Vermont
* Wyoming

Every other state has various assorted rules that restrict ballot access wherein "write ins" can't be freely made and aren't counted unless the "write in" becomes an official write in candidate and jumps through a plethora of hoops/rules/regulations, and then there are eight states that don't allow any write ins of any kind.

If a bunch of people decided collectively not to vote, no one would care because they already don't care because they restrict ballot access.

The United States Constitution grants the states the right to determine how their representatives are chosen, and those representatives that are chosen make up the Congress... which Congress isn't collectively bloody likely to strip themselves of those constitutional rights unless they lose their damn minds. :)

I suspect the original gang of PRiSM would have been feeling the Bern, so to speak.

presidential primaries

Interesting way to characterize the primaries that are primarily held by each state in order to elect that state's representatives.

And Congress is given the power to change regulations which would include the timing of primaries.

Who is it that you think Congress is, and how stupid do you think they would have to be in order to collectively agree to strip their respective states of the power granted to them by the United States Constitution, Article I, Section 4?

Duh.

If the Constitution says that presidential primaries have to be held in different states at different times then we can change the Constitution to fix that so all states have to vote at the same time.

Sure, no problem... and while you're at it, get them to add your bullshit into the Constitution and allow all the unicorns farting rainbows to vote also.

Chop, chop... get a move on skippy.

There is no valid reason to have different states voting at different times.

Of course, there is: The United States Constitution, Article I, Section 4.

Duh.

-CW

Yeah, well, that appears to be a trend, of sorts. :)

Indeed!

Maybe it is time to shake up the primary calendar and, as Kick has implied, do away with the caucuses.

Bloody well right... kill all those stupid caucuses. Die caucuses die! Let all the people vote, and let them vote by mail, and let them eat... pie. :)

Oh, OK. Sorry, it's been a rough couple of weeks. Now that everything's essentially over, I can reveal that I voted for Bernie. I don't like to do this beforehand, because no matter who I support I try to remain at least somewhat evenhanded in my columns.

I wasn't saying I thought Bernie was running away with it, but there were indeed plenty of people out there saying that, that's all I was saying... this was the main reason Amy and Pete dropped out before ST, in fact.

But it is what it is, so count me among the Biden supporters now. I too am all about beating Trump, because nothing else really matters at this point.

-CW

No surprise there.

-CW

Maybe it is time to shake up the primary calendar and, as Kick has implied, do away with the caucuses.

In any event, we are where we are and this is too silly a topic to continue, given the state of play in the world.

-CW

You're not being a very gracious winner, I have to say.

Yes, there was a chance for Bernie. If Biden had beaten Bernie in SC, but only by 8 or 9 points, that would have been seen as weakness, and ST might have gone very differently.

Most Dem voters have one -- and ONLY one -- criteria for this primary season: beat Trump. That's it. So whoever looked strongest was going to get some serious coattails from that. And that could very easily have been Bernie. It turned out to be Biden, much to your approval, but that wasn't written in stone from the start of the race in any way. The first three contests were: Bernie 2nd, 1st, 1st -- Biden 4th, 5th, 2nd. Historically, nobody has ever won the nomination without placing at least 2nd in either IA or NH. Biden will be the first to do it. It's a comeback for the ages, that's for sure, but it was in no way guaranteed, sorry.

-CW

For instance, I understood that the nomination was NEVER within reach for Senator Sanders and certainly not based on the first three contests.

That was indeed what people were saying before SC voted. Like I said, conventional wisdom has swung wildly this primary season. At the time, the only challenger considered with a chance to beat Bernie was Pete, who had won IA and come close in NH. Biden wasn't even in the running, according to the pundits at the time. The prevailing storyline was: "Can anyone stop Bernie?"

And SC isn't representative of the country as a whole, really. It's representative of the South, but not the whole country. For example: there are now more Latino voters than there are African-American. But SC didn't represent that...

Michale [6] -

OMG, I'm agreeing with you (on SC). A clear sign of the impending apocalypse!

LizM [7] -

And this time, Dem voters know full well that Trump could win. That's another big difference.

It'll be closer to 2018 than 2016, that's my guess at any rate. The 'burbs will deliver the win for Biden, across the country, just like they delivered the House to Pelosi.

Kick [8] -

Yeah, but it was very primary-like. A primacaucus, if you will. Heh.

[10] -

Yeah, I do think Bernie'll quit. Mostly because there is no chance of manufacturing any sort of upset in the next two or three weeks. If there were states he thought he had a chance in voting next Tuesday, then I might think differently, but there just aren't. I think Bernie has his eyes clearly on the goal, which is to beat Trump. Which, as I said, I think he'll announce either tonight or possibly tomorrow morning.

OK, gotta go check the returns now...

-CW

You think Bernie will quit? He won't. He enjoys the campaign contributions. Enough said.

Oh... should have read further before posting [8]. Exactly!

Future hint: North Dakota was a stupid caucus. Wyoming will be a stupid caucus. :)

So, I'd advise against a simple comparison to 2016.

Really???

In SC, black Americans make up 27%...

In the US black Americans make up 13%...

You might want to re-state your claim..

And yes.. Not only could people really say that Bernie had a shot, many Weigantians DID say that, not only did Bernie have a shot... They said he would likely win.. A wager was all but conceded.. :D

If things go the way you predict, then I'll be looking for Senator Sanders to begin the process of uniting - and, yes, even energizing - the Democratic party and all of its eligible voters.

Good luck with that..

Perhaps 2016 might ring some bells...??? :D

Yea... "cream"....

http://sjfm.us/pics/FrontRunner.jpg

As in "Joe Biden is gonna get CREAMED by President Trump in November"...

:D

This time around, it was almost within reach and then snatched away.

Was it, really? I mean, could anyone really say that the nomination of Sanders was within reach before the results of the South Carolina primary, the first contest that would be representative of the country as a whole?

If things go the way you predict, then I'll be looking for Senator Sanders to begin the process of uniting - and, yes, even energizing - the Democratic party and all of its eligible voters.

JL,

As for the trope that racism is over... tell that to the family of heather heyer

Heather Hayer had NOTHING to do with racism.. Heyer was a terrorist or a terrorist groupie.. Either way, her removal from the gene pool is a PLUS for society.. Much in the same way that Michael Brown's and Trayvon Martin's removal was a GOOD thing..

Your claim that Hayer's removal has something to do with racism simply illustrates the problem of bullshit movies like ATTK amid bogus claims of racism like Jussie Smollett, Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin and Tawana Brawley...

With the exception of Affirmative Action, institutionalized racism is dead in the US.. It died the day we elected a black man as POTUS...

Other than both being court dramas, the two films have too little in common to be compared.

Except the novels they were based on were both written by the same author..

Other than that.. Yea.. NOTHING in common.. :^/