I would have thought you would have taken a lesson when JL proved you wrong about your Trump Says Coronavirus Is Hoax bullshit..

"I don't want people to stay calm"
-NY Governor Cuomo, speaking about the coronavirus..

Apparently, it's YOUR breath that sticks from the bullshit you spew..

My breath is the clean fresh breath of FACTS... :D

Compare and contrast President Trump's calming actions with the Democrats DON'T BE CALM!!! DON'T BE CALM!!! PANIC!!! PANIC!!!! actions and it's clear who is showing leadership and who is off their rocker hysterical with hate..

Your breath must be awful with all that bullshit constantly spewing from your mouth! When has any Democrat told the public, “DON’T BE CALM!!! PANIC!!!”??? YOU seem to be the only person who is “off their rocker hysterical with hate.” with your dishonesty!

It's rather ironic..

President Trump is weathering the coronavirus storm with grace, dignity and above all else.. LEADERSHIP...

It’s rather moronic that anyone would make such a statement! Trump claimed that “anyone who wants a test can get a test.” Tell that to the hospital staffs all over the country that are having to be quarantined and cannot carry out their jobs until they are tested and cleared.

Trump is more worried about his re-election than American’s well being.

Shipments are delayed because they are coming from China.. :D

And, in ENTERTAINMENT NEWS:

John Travolta was hospitalized for suspected COVID-19, but doctors now confirm that it was only Saturday Night Fever, and they assure everyone that he is Staying Alive.

:D

President Trump is one helluva leader..

On the other hand, it's not too hard to show great leadership when the OTHER side is screaming hysterically at the top of their lungs... "DON'T BE CALM!!!! DON'T BE CALM!!!! PANIC!!! PANIC!!!!"

If there is a god (or gods) then he... she... or they have blessed President Trump with totally and unequivocally INCOMPETENT and MORONIC opponents and enemies..

I find that nearly IMPOSSIBLE to believe.. :D

heh

His awesome talent shall be missed...

I accused you of being a Democrat..

That's a grave insult that you did not deserve...

I don't call properly labeling a complete and utter failure of leadership on the part of the Democrats an over-reaction..

But I can see how those who are Democrats would.. :D

President Trump is weathering the coronavirus storm with grace, dignity and above all else.. LEADERSHIP...

Democrats?? Hysterical fear-mongering, hatred and bigotry... ANTI-leadership... Telling people "DON'T BE CALM!!! DON'T BE CALM!!!" violates **EVERY** tenet of leadership and crisis management..

Again, Demcorats putting their own selfish and self-serving agenda before the safety and welfare of the American people..

Wonder if we'll ever see a commentary on THAT, eh??

Probably because Obama didn’t falsely claim at the start of the swine flu outbreak that it was all a Republican hoax.

So, since yer bullshit accusation has totally fallen flat...

Why are ya'all so hysterical about a handful of dead Americans but you didn't say diddley squat about over 12,000 dead Americans under Odumbo???

Do you have an answer that ISN'T complete and utter bullshit???

"Well, do ya... Punk..."
-Clint Eastwood, DIRTY HARRY

https://media3.giphy.com/media/5AWyS0JYoBrmE/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e474eb2fac2e32876079c6bf355a8acdd4ad541bfc9&rid=giphy.gif

:D

To a one, they are ALWAYS bullshit..

Even the true ones..

ESPECIALLY the true ones..

But they make people feel good..

Excellent observation of human nature... :D

If Bernie really wants to bitch-slap the DNC and all the Democrats who have scrooed him and his followers over the last years...

He should concede the Democrat Primary to Biden and mount a 3rd Party run...

It would be a much better fit for Bernie anyways...

yikes, now you've re-mis-spelled your prior mis-spelling. it's poor spelling squared!

Yer one of the only people here who can make a spelling lame friendly and funny.. :D

But... Was it an actual misspelling??? :D Or was it simply a version of "Republicant"... :D

however, at least you're right that donald didn't call the virus a hoax

Thank you for acknowledging the FACTS...

Russ, you should pay attention to JL... You might actually learn something..

(although he did downplay its severity)

Which is what a GOOD leader does to instill confidence and forestall panic..

Compare and contrast President Trump's calming actions with the Democrats DON'T BE CALM!!! DON'T BE CALM!!! PANIC!!! PANIC!!!! actions and it's clear who is showing leadership and who is off their rocker hysterical with hate..

Any presidential candidate who doesn't lie would have disqualified themselves before I get a chance to vote for them. I look for candidates who don't lie wastefully, who give voters the feeling of being flattered without piling on more outright falsehoods than are really necessary. One useful technique is for them to mostly say a whole mess of nothing, when politics requires them to lie.

I thought she did the right thing by taking the DNA test as early as she did,

I don't have anything against the timing. It's the fact that she was using a DNA test instead of a story. Lies beat facts, in politics, but stories beat lies. There was a good story right there for her to use, and she went with the fact.

yikes, now you've re-mis-spelled your prior mis-spelling. it's poor spelling squared! however, at least you're right that donald didn't call the virus a hoax (although he did downplay its severity)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

Which consists of:

"DON'T BE CALM!!!! DON'T BE CALM!!!! PANIC!!! PANIC!!!!"

That's the Democrat Party response..

How completely and utterly irresponsible..

Democrats don't DESERVE to govern...

And President Trump didn't make the same claim about the CoronaVirus either.

President Trump said that it was the DEMCORAT response to the coronavirus that is the hoax..

And it is..

Trump should double the number of rallies he holds, and encourage lots more hand licking and spitting in strangers’ mouths than normally occurs...just to prove that this has all been a hoax! That would show us!

So, you want more Trump supporters to die???

Hmmmmm I wish I could say your desire to see Americans die by the tens of thousands is surprising..

But it's not..

#sad

The point being is, if you don't want to talk about politics then we CAN'T talk about the coronavirus issue, because the "issue" is nothing BUT politics..

It's like, "Hay... Let's talk about the Ebola issue..."

We can't because it's not an issue..

You read Mopshell's stats..

Last year the flu season in the US resulted in:

35,500,000 infections
490,600 hospitalizations
49,000 ICU admissions
34,200 deaths

Compared to that, this coronavirus is NOTHING..

The *ONLY* reason it's a "thing" right now is because Democrats, having lost to President Trump in that ridiculous faux impeachment coup attempt, are DESPERATE to throw ANY shit they can, in the desperate and futile hope that SOMETHING... ANYTHING... sticks to President Trump..

So, if you DON'T want to talk about politics, then the coronavirus is OUT as a possible topic of discussion...

She botched lots of stuff. For one thing, she told the truth about her small amount of Native American ancestry, and utterly failed to manage the political fallout. Telling the truth is always politically radioactive. To be a politician, you have to tell Americans a story about ourselves, a flattering story that we want to hear. And she had one: Grandpa convinces Grandma's family to be ok with the marriage. Decency overcomes bigotry. Love conquers all. Candidate has roots in the Heartland.

Personally, I thought she did the right thing by taking the DNA test as early as she did, as it allowed it to be a “big deal” when it would not hurt her campaign...because she had not announced her intention to run.

If anyone can come up with a logical reason why ya'all are hysterical about the coronavirus but didn't say squat about Swine Flu under Obama....

Probably because Obama didn’t falsely claim at the start of the swine flu outbreak that it was all a Republican hoax. Obama didn’t say that people infected with the swine flu should just go back to work and eventually they’d get better. Obama didn’t force a cruise ship full of Americans to be quarantined out at sea because he didn’t want the official number of people infected IN this country to increase!

But you are right, we didn’t blame Obama for downplaying the government’s response to a pandemic to help his chances at getting re-elected.

Trump should double the number of rallies he holds, and encourage lots more hand licking and spitting in strangers’ mouths than normally occurs...just to prove that this has all been a hoax! That would show us!

I can also be one helluva pain-in-the-arse and that hasn't changed!

Wouldn't want it any other way.. :D

I agree that 19 deaths so far is not many but this thing has barely got its foot in the door.

And there is nothing to indicate that it will.. Surely nothing to justify the "DON'T BE CALM!!! IT'S TIME TO PANIC AND BLAME IT ALL ON TRUMP!!!!" message from the Democrats...

This is more reminiscent of the last Ebola scare more than anything else..

Bloody hell, mate! That kind of pre-emptive is way too close for comfort!!! Just relieved and happy that you're the one alive to tell me about it!

Indubitably.. :D

Thanx.. :D

It appears that early detection and diligent testing makes far more of a difference than lockdowns.

Precisely.

It's hard to say why it's so high [in northern Italy] ...

You know why - there are many people there who are carrying the virus but are asymptomatic and have not been tested. With a broader testing regime in Italy, that high death rate will subside.

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Indeed, infection rates are very important.

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I can't reveal my picks for his cabinet until after the general election for reasons that will be clear enough. :)

This is why I say I'm looking forward to reading your picks for his cabinet. :)

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Well, how about that … doesn't look at all like I have to watch Biden blown out in Cal. :)

Isn't it great news! This is why I was so keen to get that link to you. I've a strong feeling too that there is better to come. They're calling it "Joementum" - well-named I reckon. :)

Senator Schumer should never have made a personal attack on the court and its justices. Period.

Agreed! And it was Schumer who deserved the MDDOTW award, not Elizabeth Warren.

Chris,

You do not give a MDDOTW award to someone just because they didn't endorse your favourite candidate. And in all fairness and fact, Elizabeth Warren is, for all her faults, a Democrat at least while BS most definitely isn't, never has been and never will be.

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But my point was, no one here said ANYTHING about it..

And over 12,000 Americans died..

Last year the flu season in the US resulted in:

35,500,000 infections
490,600 hospitalizations
49,000 ICU admissions
34,200 deaths

- almost three times as many deaths as the swine flu in 2009 - and nobody here said ANYTHING about that either.

But the CDC predictions for coronavirus are:

96,000,000 infections
4,800,000 hospitalizations
1,900,000 ICU admissions
480,000 deaths

I agree that 19 deaths so far is not many but this thing has barely got its foot in the door.

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You have always been one of my favorite, MS.. I am so glad to see you still with us..

I can also be one helluva pain-in-the-arse and that hasn't changed!

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Yeah you're right about South Korea having a low death rate - it's currently 0.68%.

As Doctor Dena Grayson explains:

"South Korea has easy access to coronavirus tests, even drive-thrus(!), and their EARLY detection has slowed the spread."

It appears that early detection and diligent testing makes far more of a difference than lockdowns.

Italy, on the other hand, has a death rate of 3.96%. It's hard to say why it's so high there though it may (and I stress may as this is speculation so far) have something to do with different strains of the virus. Dr Grayson confirms that there are multiple strains of COVID-19 in circulation now but no-one is yet certain if one or more is/are more aggressive than the others.

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Technically it wasn't a heart attack... It was pre-emptive.. The doctors told me I was within a week or so of having the type of heart attack they call The Widowmaker..

Bloody hell, mate! That kind of pre-emptive is way too close for comfort!!! Just relieved and happy that you're the one alive to tell me about it!

As the crowd cheered she shook her head at her mistake and laughed, “Kidding …”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amy-klobuchar-sparks-vp-speculation-when-she-tells-rally-crowd-she-joined-the-ticket-in-slip-up

Interesting....

If you have ***ANY*** facts that even INDICATE it's NOT about politics, I'll listen...

But if you can't answer that one simple question, then it's obvious it IS about politics..

But, don't fret, Michale. Trump won't be president for much longer and then you can take a much needed rest.

He'll be President for at least 5 more annual cruises.. :D

28 days and counting.. :D

Current and former staffers say Sanders has run a great campaign — except when it comes to taking on Democrats like Joe Biden by name. Can he fix that?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/bernie-sanders-attack-joe-biden-democratic-primary-963934/

Bernie needs to want it as bad as his supporters do...

Over **TWELVE THOUSAND** American dead under Obama and NO ONE here said 'BOO'...

Now we have LESS than TWELVE Americans dead and ya'all are treating it as the END OF DAYS...

WHAT explains this incongruity???

One thing and one thing only..

POLITICS..... Pure and simple...

As did Swine Flu and Ebola and HIV and all the rest before it..

Why, ALL OF THE SUDDEN, is this an issue??

**NO ONE** has been able to answer that...

Because the answer (Trump is President) exposes the FACT that this is nothing but politics..

I guess it's just too damn bad that the entire family of coronaviruses don't recognize that.

IE, we live in a world that has laws and sovereignty..

It's always funny how those who push for a World Government (as long as it's THEIR form of government) are so quick and ready to ignore some OTHER country's laws.. Some OTHER country's sovereignty...

You want a world government?? How about a world government governed by President Trump and the GOP???

All of the sudden a WORLD government is not very palatable, eh?? :D

I also don't live in the V IS FOR VENDETTA society..

Or, do you think this coronavirus outbreak is a Democratic hoax?

It's as real as Y2K, Ebola, Swine Flu and Climate Change..

IE, factually accurate, but hyped by hysterical fear mongering by those with a political agenda..

Or, do you think this coronavirus outbreak is a Democratic hoax?

Why would you think rewarding criminality would work??

If they insist on coming here illegally, let them be rounded up in pens and THEN they can have closely monitored health care..

You know, we all - all of us - on the planet are in this thing together and we can't afford to leave anyone behind.

If they stayed in their part of the planet, there wouldn't be a problem..

Why do you think it's OK for people to violate the US laws??

How would you feel if Americans waltzed into Canada and start stealing and assaulting and raping and murdering Canadians??

You would say, THERE OUUGHTA BE A LAW!!!

They are CRIMINALS... What part of that is not clear???

If they want health care, let them become Americans the legal and correct way...

Another reason why undocumented people in your country need to be provided with basic healthcare is to ensure that this new coronavirus outbreak doesn't become worse. When people can't afford healthcare or don't have access to it they become vulnerable. And, during a health crisis like this, when they are more vulnerable, then your whole country becomes more at risk.

You know, we all - all of us - on the planet are in this thing together and we can't afford to leave anyone behind.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/06/opinion/coronavirus-immigrants-health.html

If this scam has been going on since the days of the caveman, it's the people that are so stupid they can NOT SEE they are being scammed.

Which circles us right back around to human nature..

You have to be pretty stupid to keep getting fooled by something that is so obvious.

Figuring out the scam is not hard.

And again... "Hard" is in the eye of the beholder.

It's not hard for me at all to see how President Trump continues to win over and over and over and over again..

Apparently, it's IMPOSSIBLE for ya'all to see it because ya'all keep predicting the worst and ya'all are ALWAYS wrong about it..

Of course.. As long as it's the lies that they WANT to hear...

heh

The problem with saying that COVID-19 has a death rate of 3-4% is that it can't be accurate and is most likely much, much less than that.

It's all about the ability to test or, as in the US of all places, lack thereof.

Exactly.. The Left is simply fear-mongering on this.. Pure and simple..

President Trump is making all the right moves, trying to dispel all the politically motivated hysterical fear mongering with calm and facts..

Democrats respond, LITERALLY, with "WE DON'T WANT CALM!!!!!"

GOP Rep. Elise Stefanik blasts ‘radical Far-Left’ after finding ‘vile’ note on car while grocery shopping
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-rep-elise-stefanik-blasts-radical-far-left-after-finding-vile-note-on-car-while-grocery-shopping

Nobody on the Left will condemn this sort of thing because they AGREE with these sorts of actions...

#sad

If for no other reason than the sort of behavior he exhibited demonstrated a distinct disdain for the rule of law.

Exactly..

Funny how he gets a pass around here and is "beat out" by Warran for being "coy"... Is that a code-word for something??

And I was simply pointing out exact why the Vanity Vote is useless as an accurate parameter..

You people only insist on employing it when it goes your way...

Example: Bernie @ Iowa....

If for no other reason than the sort of behavior he exhibited demonstrated a distinct disdain for the rule of law.

She botched lots of stuff. For one thing, she told the truth about her small amount of Native American ancestry, and utterly failed to manage the political fallout. Telling the truth is always politically radioactive. To be a politician, you have to tell Americans a story about ourselves, a flattering story that we want to hear. And she had one: Grandpa convinces Grandma's family to be ok with the marriage. Decency overcomes bigotry. Love conquers all. Candidate has roots in the Heartland.

Andrew Jackson was a worse human being. Trump brags that he could shoot someone in public without losing support, but Jackson actually killed people for fun.

Buchanan was a worse president. Trump is pushing us toward a metaphorical Civil War, but Buchanan led us into the literal one.

Woodrow Wilson was a worse influence on the world. No one sees Trump as a source of intellectual leadership, but the Fourteen Points were taken as a starting point for the disastrous Paris Peace Conference. The doctrine of national self-determination of peoples was a key part of what made WWII possible. As I see it, you can recognize putative rights of peoples, or you can recognize the actual rights of people, but when push comes to shove, you can't have it both ways. And push is guaranteed to come to shove, sooner or later.

I don't know what Schumer said, and given the pervasive incompetence of the less-bad major party, it wouldn't surprise me if it was a threat.

But the system is designed so that justices will pay the price if they make bad rulings. The branches are not equal, as envisioned in the Constitution in 1787. Not even close. The Supreme Court has no power of its own, beyond deciding the specific cases that are appealed to it. (And those over which it has original jurisdiction, "Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party".) The only way the Court can have any real power is by having its decisions accepted as valid precedent, that should bind not only the lower courts but Congress and the executive branch in their interpretation of the Constitution. Any decision that undermines that acceptance comes with a price in power lost by the Court.

All of this, obviously, led to Joe Biden having the best week of his political life. His comeback was one for the ages, and will be oft-quoted by future presidential candidates who do poorly in Iowa and New Hampshire (that's our guess, at any rate).

There is just one problem with all of that - a future presidential candidate who loses the first three contests - no matter what state they may be in (hopefully, not Iowa, ahem) will have to be of an extraordinary variety, like a Joe Biden, in fact, if he or she would dare to contemplate such a comeback.

It is amazing to me that, even now, people fail to recognize the special nature of a 2020 Biden campaign for president.

The *ONLY* thing I can see to is NOW we have a POTUS with a -R after his name and THEN we had a POTUS with a -D after his name..

If anyone can come up with a logical reason why ya'all are hysterical about the coronavirus but didn't say squat about Swine Flu under Obama....

"I am all ears.."
-Ross Perot

hillary was also popular in the rest of los estados unidos. more popular than donald, in any case.

It's easy to be popular if you promise everyone a whole bunch of free stuff..

I mean, seriously.. Do I have to explain this to you???

Yeah, Hillary "won the popular vote. She was very popular in Mexifornia and Puerto New Yorko!!

You have always been one of my favorite, MS.. I am so glad to see you still with us..

Technically it wasn't a heart attack... It was pre-emptive.. The doctors told me I was within a week or so of having the type of heart attack they call The Widowmaker..

So I definitely dodged a bullet.. Sincere thanks for your nice thoughts...

As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus (aka swine flu), 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died.

WHO did call it a pandemic in 2009 though in fact it was not any more deadly than any other flu. With a death rate of 0.02%, it is considerably less deadly than COVID-19 which has a death rate of 3.4%.

All excellent and factual information.. Funny how SOME here even denied it happened.. :^/

But my point was, no one here said ANYTHING about it..

And over 12,000 Americans died..

Now we have a handful of Americans who died and people here are hysterical about it..

The *ONLY* thing I can see to is NOW we have a POTUS with a -R after his name and THEN we had a POTUS with a -D after his name..

By full free healthcare, do you mean that people living in the US - millions of them - who are undocumented should be tested for coronavirus when warranted?

I mean full free healthcare where illegals can go to the doctor for a hangnail and American citizens have to pay for it..

It has nothing to do with emergency pandemic procedures..

Because during a pandemic you better not want people in your country not going to the authorities and healthcare professionals when they are sick for fear of being deported … no unless you want a real crisis on your hands, so to speak.

If illegal immigrant criminals do not go to a doctor for fear of being deported and Americans die because of them, they should be prosecuted for murder..

To give you a proper analogy, it's as if a murderer had coronavirus and didn't go to a doctor for fear of being arrested for murder...

Is reluctance to seek medical treatment should not make his crime extenuate or acceptable..

If the criminals weren't in this country illegally, then it wouldn't be our problem, now would it??

Well, how about that … doesn't look at all like I have to watch Biden blown out in Cal. :)

Take South Korea, for example, where the testing has been comprehensive and death rate is very low.

It's all about the ability to test or, as in the US of all places, lack thereof.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/7/1925063/-Delegate-Tracker-5-Super-Tuesday-Final-Results

Please note that California is still counting mail-in ballots so there is likely to be further adjustments to their delegate allocation.

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Can you find me one commentary where you were so worried and fear-mongery about over 12,000 Americans dying [of] Swine Flu

As of mid-March 2010, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that about 59 million Americans contracted the H1N1 virus (aka swine flu), 265,000 were hospitalized as a result, and 12,000 died.

While the impact of flu varies, CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually. That puts swine flu at the bottom of the range.

WHO did call it a pandemic in 2009 though in fact it was not any more deadly than any other flu. With a death rate of 0.02%, it is considerably less deadly than COVID-19 which has a death rate of 3.4%.

I sure hope that is what you mean.

Because during a pandemic you better not want people in your country not going to the authorities and healthcare professionals when they are sick for fear of being deported … no unless you want a real crisis on your hands, so to speak.

I guess I don't know many women.. :D

Exactly..

https://www.codforums.com/threads/i-dont-even-wanna-know.11679/#lg=attachment731&slide=0

I don't EVEN want to know!! :D

The fact that they do that is why they lost..

Wait for WHAT, precisely!?

If only we could clone Warren and have one still in the Senate and another, or another few, in a decent Administration, since we can't have her in the White House.

I think one EW is enough.

Ahhhhh... Those were the days.. :D

It seems you agree with Bill Maher.

Yea, it's been known to happen now and again that Maher accepts the facts and reality..

My sincerest condolences for your sister..

It's rarely wise to have discussions that involve family members, as any rational or logical or objective thoughts go out the window...

Nature of the beast...

It speaks back to the very first commentary that CW wrote that brought me to his attention..

So Is Torturing A Daughter OK?

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2008/07/07/so-is-torturing-a-daughter-ok-2/

The Coronavirus Is NOTHING To Worry About..

It's like the Ebola Scare or Y2K or Climate Change..

It's a Democrat construct to make the sheeple afraid and hate on President Trump...

I would say that ya'all are going to feel pretty silly when all this blows over...

But that would imply ya'all actually have any shame or common sense..

And those attributes are the first 2 attributes that HHPTDS attacks and suppresses.... :eyeroll:

The Coronavirus Is NOTHING To Worry About..

It's like the Ebola Scare or Y2K or Climate Change..

It's a Democrat construct to make the sheeple afraid and hate on President Trump...

I would say that ya'all are going to feel pretty silly when all this blows over...

But that would imply ya'all actually have any shame or common sense..

And those attributes are the first 2 attributes that HHPTDS attacks and suppresses.... :eyeroll:

All ya gotta do, Rusty is find me the comments where you condemned Odumbo when over 12,000 Americans died in the Swine Flu pandemic..

Because if ya can't do that, then yer nothing but an opportunist, a Party slave whose hate and bigotries rule them...

I'll be waiting for the references...

He is quoted as, basically, saying, "I was boffing Lewinsky to help me manage my nerves. Hell, I was the President Of The United States.. I just figured I would institute my own form of 'Prima Nocta'.. What's the big deal!!??"

That's the quintessential Democrat right there..

So, for dissing women, Bubbo doesn't rate a mention..

But for being coy, Warren deserves the gong??

Waitaminute!?? A woman being coy gets the gong??

Is that a sexist thing!???

“I like the numbers being where they are,” said Trump, who appeared to be explicitly acknowledging his political concerns about the outbreak: “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn’t our fault.”'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/06/us-coronavirus-death-toll-washington-state

What' the problem here??

It's just budding Democrats forcing that girl to share her wealth....

Nothing to see.. Move along... :eyeroll: