I hear you. :)

A blogger of lesser patience and integrity would have just booted the offender and banned his IP address. I suspect that like myself cw has a soft spot for hopeless causes.

but someone who spends 500 dollars a year on one candidate is still "big money?"

More important queries in need of a response:

* What are the limits on the ratio of a pie's circumference to its diameter?

* How much do I have to spend in order to be considered big pie... because who would want to be called a small pie? :)

As Michale claims there are open minded commenters here, if there are any would you please comment on whether primary night is the time to discuss something like One Demand or not.

Honestly, Don, it's an answer as easy as pie:

On primary night, you wanted to discuss it, and CW didn't.
Weigantia is CW's world, and everyone else is just living in it.

If they want to deport illegals, they should start at Trump’s properties...

Read your article After Attending a Trump Rally, I Now Know Democrats Have No Shot in 2020 and the comment section and, honestly, I don’t buy it. The author shows great wisdom in admitting that many Republicans are great people who are not Nazi’s and who truly love this country. But in the next breath she lumps all Democrats into a monolith — which makes no sense from someone that supposedly just became woke to the fact that political stereotypes are wrong! How odd for someone to realize that the Republicans — whom she “never” liked — are really great folks, unlike the Democrats who are all horrible people suddenly!

She started off talking about people attacking knitters online, but never bothers to offer why they were being attacked or any evidence as to how she knew it was Democrats attacking them. That Democrats demand purity, but Republicans are so welcoming to different opinions!?!? Do the names Mitt Romney or Justin Amash sound familiar?

And WTF that YOU would post this??!! YOU, who constantly claims to know what every Democrat thinks or believes — because anyone who disagrees with you (actually, it’s not what you think, but whatever Trump tells you that you think) all share the same views on every subject matter.

As someone who did switch parties in 2008, this article is nothing more than Republican propaganda — sadly, it is dishonest.

The move reflects President Trump’s persistence in cracking down on sanctuary cities, localities that have refused to cooperate in handing over immigrants targeted for deportation to federal authorities. It comes soon after the Justice Department and Department of Homeland Security announced a series of measures that will affect both American citizens and immigrants living in those places.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/border-patrol-will-deploy-elite-tactical-agents-to-sanctuary-cities/ar-BB100Ejr

Gotta give President Trump credit..

He does nothing half-assed :D

There will be NO sanctuary for illegal immigrant criminals in Sanctuary cities...

It's THAT simple.. :D

On the other hand, impeachment was big, and. even if it does fade from memory, Trump appears determined to keep it alive.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/will-impeachment-play-in-november

I imagine that Democrats would just like to forget the faux impeachment coup..

President Trump is NOT going to let that happen. :D

Have hysterical Trump/America haters moved on?? Have they gotten over a free, fair, legal, democratic and Constitutional election that swept Trump into office??

Of course they haven't..

So why would this bimbo expect President Trump to get over their faux impeachment coup???

The level of alarm about Trump’s post-acquittal rampage has been predictably high—five-alarm-fire, red-siren-for-our-democracy high.

How can you tell?? Democrats have ALWAYS been at a "high—five-alarm-fire, red-siren-for-our-democracy high"....

In the intelligence community (at least in the 80s when I was part of it) radio traffic was constant.. When ever there was REAL messages to send, they were interspersed with "white noise." This way the radio traffic was at a constant level, therefore denying the enemy of a notice of some impending action..

Democrats have seem to taken that procedure to heart.. Which is why most REAL and PATRIOTIC Americans ignore the Democrat Party..

It's all just meaningless noise..

Trump may have gone too far even for one of his most stalwart loyalists.

Facts to support??? None??

Like I said.. Just meaningless noise..

The answer, I’m afraid, is yes. In his post-impeachment rage, Trump wanted vengeance, and he wanted us to know it. There was no one inside his Administration to stop him. A month ago, Congress had at least the theoretical power to do something about his overreaching. Today, thanks to the Senate’s very clear vote, it does not.

You mean thanks to the Democrats' very clear incompetence..

Democrats claimed to have CLEAR and UNEQUIVOCAL evidence that PROVED President Trump's guilt beyond a doubt..

And they couldn't even get a conviction on the lame, non-criminal, generic CATCH-ALL non-crimes??

How sad and pathetic is that???

Welcome to the post-acquittal Trump Presidency.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/donald-trump-a-president-so-unhinged-that-even-bill-barr-says-hes-out-of-control

Of course, AG Barr said nothing of the sort... But why let FACTS ruin a perfectly hysterical Democrat rant..

:eyeroll:

His best course of action would be to drop out of the race..

Don't get me wrong.. The more things are frak'ed up for the Democrat Party, the better I like it. :D

But, as always, I gotta call 'em as I see 'em...

Only when I sneeze.. Or cough... Or lift something.. Or talk... Or move... Or breathe...

:^/

You are a true man of integrity...

nothing fancy, just a cold and i think a sinus infection. going to pay the doctor a visit in a bit.

Not fun.. Hope it gets better.

I am back on bed restriction ... My sternum didn't fuse back together properly.. Now it's just 2 titanium plates and 4 zip ties that are holding my rib cage closed...

Gonna have to go back under the knife, but I can't do that until the second week of April.. So I am loaded up with pain pills until then..

Hope ya get better soon, dood..

yes, but only because i honor my wagers.

Dood!! What's wrong??

if it helps, i'd vote for you before i'd vote for mike bloomberg.

But would you vote for Trump before you would vote for Bloomberg?? :D

Bloomberg's anti gun hysteria disqualifies him to be POTUS, IMNSHO....

Never had a problem with that.. :D Some might even say it's my defining characteristic.. :D

Yes, One Demand would work better if the whole party was on board. But as you said the Dems like to work in small steps.

Yes, I said incremental steps are better But it also has it's detractors..

Give you an example.. I'm fat.. I have tried many a diet plan (mostly of my own design) but I could never see any good lasting result so I give up.. I have NO will power when it comes to eating and drinking..

I have accepted that and just go with the status quo..

So it is with political incremental steps.. Change is hard.. Even small 1-pnd lost have no real effect because it's hard to celebrate the 1-pnd loss one day when you simply gain it back the next...

Political people in general and Democrats in particular want it all and they want it now..

They don't have time for baby steps so, if the baby steps doesn't show real fast that they are ADULT steps, then people just give up and accept the status quo..

That is why Bernie is so popular.. He feeds the people who demand radical change..

The fact that there is no way in hell that Bernie can make those changes is irrelevant.. They believe that he can do it so they vote for him..

By the time they found out Bernie was full of kaa-kaa it's too late..

As I said, yer best bet would be to co-op an existing group that is established and is similar to what you want, work your way up and slowly maneuver it to One Demand..

you'd consider someone who spent 20,000 dollars a year on 100 different candidates to be a "small donor?"

https://www.people-press.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2019/03/PP_2019.03.14_Independents_0-01-1.png

OK Here is what confuses me..

I always thought that Democrats LIKED populist... Grass roots.. That sort of thing..

The article you pointed out seems to say just the opposite.. That the ANTI populist, the ANTI Grass Root are the better way to go...

Having said that, I DO see the danger of "mob rule".. But as long as the "mob" follows the decorum of common sense and ethical behavior, I submit that Mob Rule ain't so bad.. That it can actually succeed where Politics As Usual has failed..

Both sides have their violent, intolerant and fringe elements..

The problem I see here is that the Democrat Party doesn't acknowledge their fault in their fringe elements and refuses to condemn their fringe...

But my point in bringing up the initial article is to counter the prevailing Weigantia opinion that everything is hunky dorky within the Democrat Party..

It isn't.. The Party is losing members by the millions..

Of course some will point to all the GOP retirements as a rebuttal.. But that's just a red herring.. The GOP'ers that are retiring are STILL GOP'ers..

so, you're okay with someone spending tens of thousands of dollars in political donations, as long as it's to a few hundred different candidates? and not a single dollar for pie? dude, you're just hopeless.

It also leaves me somewhat confused...

Clarify something for me..

Is this YOUR argument?? Or simply a response to the article I posted??

To support this I will paraphrase a quote (of all people) Barack Obama..

"Democrats don't want massive overnight changes. They want their changes to be gradual, over time.."

Or words to that effect...

OD is a huge massive change that simply does not have clout to become Party wide or even Nation wide...

Your best bet is to find an existing and established group that has similar goals that you have. Work your way into THAT system and then co-opt it for your own purposes..

That would be the FASTEST way to achieve your ends.

That's my honest opinion...

OK, my diplomatic opinion is 'YES' with a 'BUT'...

The 'BUT' being is it could work if the whole Party would get on board..

JL and I had a similar discussion in the past about Democrats practice what they preach.. It was regarding taxing millionaires and billionaires more.. I was of the opinion that the millionaires and billionaires who are Democrats should self-tax themselves if they honestly and truly believe they are not taxed enough..

JL was of the mind that there is nothing wrong with doing things to your own advantage as long as it's within the rules.. Game the system in other words.

(JL, feel free to correct me if I did not state your position accurately)

By and large, politicians are still human beings with more flaws than non-politicians. As such, they will nearly ALWAYS do things that are first and foremost in their best interests..

That is where you will run into problems with Party wide acceptance of One Demand... ESPECIALLY with the Democrat Party because the ENTIRE Party is made up of little fiefdoms, each one with their own self-interest that runs counter to all the other little fiefdoms and THEIR own self-interests...

What was it that Will (Roy??) Rogers said??

"I am not part of any organized Party. I am a Democrat..."

That's the problem that One Demand cannot overcome in the here and now..

So ends diplomacy.. Let's talk honestly

Let me take then in the order the were posted..

DH,

I did read the article (no bonus points) and commented on it in yesterday's thread.

Perhaps you could return the favor by commenting with your opinion on whether it would make a difference if the Dem nominee were to declare they were running a small donor only campaign for the general election.

Fair enough..

Let me address your comments from yesterday first, then I'll give you my diplomatic opinion and then my honest opinion..

Does the walkaway movement also consist of people that have walked away from the Republican Party?

To the best of my knowledge, #WalkAway is strictly targeted at the Democrat Party. If there is a GOP version, I haven't heard of it..

I mean, the GOP is already accused of being mean, nasty and intolerant.. :D

But with Democrats, they put on airs that they are above that...

The #WalkAway movement is made up of those former Democrats who found out that Democrats are as mean and nasty and intolerant as they accuse Republicans of being.

If not it will be hard to take them seriously as anything other than a Republican organization.

Except for the fact that the group is made up of FORMER Democrats...

And President Trump is the proof that you are standing on your roof knee deep in the still rising water.

On this I completely and utterly agree with you..

The fact that President Trump was freely, fairly, legally, duly, democratically and Constitutionally elected as President PROVES, beyond a shadow of a doubt how far the Democrat Party had sunk under Obama..

i read your article all the way through. before i discuss it though, i'd like you to read something else. don't worry, it's not anything particularly rabid, i just think it fills in some of the blanks your article leaves... well, blank.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/14/anti-populism-politics-why-champions-of-civility-keep-losing

Let me qualify this...

Bloomberg has the BEST chance of defeating President Trump, but it's still a small, small, VERY small chance...

Why???

The acolytes of Occasional Cortex and Bernie Bros simply will NOT vote for the old white guy billionaire who did nothing more than buy the Democrat nomination...

As ya'all know, one of my superpowers is the ability to see both sides of any issue.. Up to the point of HHPTDS setting in, a few others here shared that trait..

In any case, I can see Bloomberg being able to take down President Trump because Bloomberg appears to have the very rare ability to meet Trump on Trump's own chosen battlefield...

In other words, Bloomberg CAN out Trump Trump...

But on the flip side there is the afore mentioned issue of Occasional Cortex and The Squad's acolytes, Bernie Bros and nearly the entire progressive Left Wing who will be unlikely to support the old white guy billionaire who bought the Democrat nomination...

So, we end up where we started...

While Bloomberg has the BEST chance to take down President Trump, it's still a very VERY small chance...

This is the kind of Bloomberg commentary I hope we see here..

Comments?? CW?? Buehler?? Anyone???

These are the kinds of questions and issues that need to be addressed if ya'all want a viable nominee to take on President Trump..

I have to be honest here and say that Bloomberg does have a chance of actually defeating President Trump..

But it's STILL a win win for me.. If Democrats actually DO throw out their integrity and make a deal with the devil and nominate an old white guy billionaire as their champion???

My gods, the gloating will be horrendous!! :D

Oh yea... And let's see Bloomberg's tax returns for the past 10 years....

Right???

I was also hoping you could address the fact that donors are now asking Biden to leave the race to give room for Bloomberg...

Top financiers want Biden to drop out so Bloomberg can win: ’He has no chance’

Billionaire hedge fund investor Leon Cooperman: 'I feel sorry for Biden' as the former VP loses momentum
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/wall-streets-message-to-biden-following-nyc-fundraiser-he-should-withdraw-he-has-no-chance

Liz?? You want to take a crack at that too??

Bringing this forward because I would REALLY love to get yer input on it..

Bonus points if you read the comments as well..

After Attending a Trump Rally, I Now Know Democrats Have No Shot in 2020

I’ve been a Democrat for 20 years, but my experience made me realize just how out-of-touch my party is with the country at large
https://gen.medium.com/ive-been-a-democrat-for-20-years-here-s-what-i-experienced-at-trump-s-rally-in-new-hampshire-c69ddaaf6d07

It's a refreshing screed from a real person who lays out everything wrong with the current Democrat Party FROM a life-long Democrat...

Hmmmmmm

You mean... Bloomberg is LYING!!???

And yet, you Democrats will vote for him for POTUS???

So, in other words, lying doesn't bother ya'all at all, eh??

:eyeroll:

That should be shameful to all the other campaigns, really. Trump is doing their job for them -- how sad is that?

Sad???

It's HILARIOUS!!!!

:D

At this point, the logical Democratic candidate to directly attack Bloomberg's ad blitz would be Joe Biden. This makes sense for a couple reasons. First, Biden has already shown that he's open to the idea of launching attack ads at other Democrats, after he released an ad absolutely ridiculing Pete Buttigieg, right before New Hampshire voted.

But!!! But!!! But!!!!

Russ said that Democrats don't attack other Democrats.. That type of behavior is beneath those of purity of the driven snow..

You MUST be wrong about that! :smirk: :D

I was hoping for more commentary on Bloomberg as a CANDIDATE... Not a commentary on whether he should be in the debate or not..

With all the baggage that Bloomberg has, do you think he will win the primary???

What do you think of the idea that Democrats would, after castigating and demonizing billionaires to hell and back, actually support an old white guy billionaire as their chosen champion?

Do you believe Democrats would just chuck out their integrity (such as it is) and their entire diversity platform out the window and choose an old white guy billionaire who has a record of racist comments??

THOSE are the kinds of question I had hoped a commentary would have answered..

Ah well... C'est la vie...

The logical candidate is Joe Biden and not the guy claiming over and over ad nauseam he'll "stand up to the millionaires and billionaires"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69w_CXFR7tE

Pardon me for saying it, but Bernie also seems like a pretty logical candidate to take on the billionaire since he's been promising that very thing for 30 years. Fast forward to now, and all he's doing is whining about having to actually do it.

Can't all those candidates see what good practice it would be to take on Bloomberg and how Mike is simply being kind enough to present them all with the opportunity? ;)

Great column, CW.

Me too, but Bernie is accusing the DNC of bending the rules for Bloomberg and cheating out other candidates who dropped out long ago, and Bernie has his surrogates screaming loudly into microphones that the DNC is cheating him by allowing it. However, the DNC rules were made long ago... with a lot of input from Bernie, as you know. They don't want Bloomberg on stage, obviously, and Nina Turner is now referring to him as an "oligarch."

But -- and here's a shocker -- he doesn't actually have to show up, even if he qualifies.

Bernie would, of course, prefer that, and who knows who else on the debate stage wouldn't be glad to see him excluded?

Don't Let Bloomberg Have A Free Pass

This! Yes, sir, and I'll go you one better: Don't let any of them have a free pass. Elizabeth Warren pretty much gave Bernie a free pass in debate after debate, and what does she have to show for it?

Bernie needs to stop whining about "millionaires and billionaires" -- oh, wait... scratch that. I forgot for a second that Bernie has redefined the "evildoers" in his purity test to be only "billionaires" now that he can't meet his own 30-plus-year-old purity test.

Apologies:
Must remember that millionaires are no longer evil.
Must remember that millionaires are no longer evil.
Must remember that millionaires are no longer evil.

Where was I? Right! Bernie needs to quit the whining about the billionaire and having his surrogates refer to him as an "oligarch" and screaming loudly into microphones that he shouldn't be allowed on the debate stage and how Bernie is being cheated again. That's ridiculous! It appears not to have occurred to a single one of the "Berners" that Bernie spending decades claiming he would take on the evil super rich people and then whining about the DNC and Bloomberg being allowed on the debate stage is sending one bigly huge mixed message. Pick a lane.

And not just Bernie... although he's the one who whines about millionaires and billionaires the most (oh, Hell... did it again, scratch millionaire because we are one), every single one of the candidates should get busy and start showing the public what Trump is going to drag out of each of their closets. Don't wait until it's too late to vet the other candidates. Don't let anyone have a free pass. No one.

So to recap:

* Every candidate needs to stop whining and walking around on eggshells; time to let the public know what you shouldn't be afraid to show now... that Trump isn't going to hold back on later.

* You really want to prove who's the best candidate to take on a billionaire? Then Mike Bloomberg will be good practice.

Time to get your Party started, Democrats. :)

One of his latest ads insinuates that Barack Obama has all but officially endorsed him.

I must have missed that one too.

I'm not making this stuff up -- it's out there for hundreds of millions of viewers to see.

https://www.youtube.com/user/mikebloomberg

The only ads I've seen are all at the link above.

You're welcome. :)

Bloomberg is bombarding the TV airwaves in Texas too; however, I haven't seen anything like that insinuating he had anything to do with Obamacare. He's running an ad in Texas on heavy rotation where Obama does figure prominently, but he's discussing working with him on gun safety laws, improving education, and helping teens find good jobs, and it doesn't discuss the ACA.

https://youtu.be/WYW6Efw8b5U

Mike also, according to his ads, made New York City a paradise on Earth.

New York City? Paradise? I haven't seen that one either.

... continued

It would have been nice to have links, or at least unambiguous identification of which ad you're saying what about. I found one ad where he takes credit for a decrease in uninsured people in NYC during his time as mayor. I don't know whether that's true. But if it is, it's probably not mostly Obamacare. ACA was passed while Bloomberg was mayor, but (according to its Wikipedia article -- I haven't checked the sources) most of its provisions went into effect in 2014, which is after Bloomberg left office. NYC does have something called MetroPlus.