http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/02/13/dont-let-bloomberg-have-a-free-pass/

-CW

JL, Liz, DSWS and any other free objective thinker....

I IMPLORE you to read the following article..

After Attending a Trump Rally, I Now Know Democrats Have No Shot in 2020

I’ve been a Democrat for 20 years, but my experience made me realize just how out-of-touch my party is with the country at large
https://gen.medium.com/ive-been-a-democrat-for-20-years-here-s-what-i-experienced-at-trump-s-rally-in-new-hampshire-c69ddaaf6d07

This is the most heartfelt HONEST and sincere commentary I have read in a LONG LONG time.. Probably 3+ years long....

If you read no other link of mine ever again, you MUST read this one...

Back to dinner..

Since I am re-convalescing at home, I cook the dinners..

And when she gets home, we talk about how awesome a POTUS President Trump is.. :D

There.. This comment is about politics..

Hasta lasagna don't get any on ya..

Mmmmmm Lasagna sounds good for dinner.. :D

:smirk: :D

So let's talk politics.

Why are you afraid to wager about Trump winning the election??

Do you not have faith in your own position??

Must be...

:smirk: :D

So you like the crack whore thing, huh???

You're just all about it, eh??

Why am I not surprised.. Yer a Democrat after all...

:smirk: :D

Why did you run away..

Does the FACTS about you hurt???

GOOD...

Sad sad.. No wonder yer a Democrat...

Don't ya just HATE it when I always catch you in your lies???

:smirk: :D

Lying again...

I heard that you had a kid or two...

And they were all taken away because you were pimping them out to feed your crack habit..

I can actually see you don't something like that...

Are you going to lie and say it never happened??

Bet ya are....

Where is this "frequently" you were lying about???

Better yet: Ask Elizabeth Miller. :)

What do you want, Michale ... a medal, or a chest to pin in on?

No..

But it sure would be nice to see ya'all as critical on Obama et al as I am on the Right...

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/07/27/ftp220/#comment-24221

Actually, Liz has NEVER asked me that question, let alone frequently...
~ Moron Mike "crack fried brain cells"

I'm going to borrow that very nice phrasing of Russ: I am happy to humiliate you with your own lies...just say “when” and I’ll do it again!

What do you want, Michale ... a medal, or a chest to pin in on?
~ Elizabeth Miller

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/07/27/ftp220/#comment-24218

I am kicking yer ass all over the place :D

Have you no tits of your own??

Or did the crack shrivel them all up??

Y'all know how Elizabeth Miller frequently likes to ask Mike if he'd like a medal or a chest to pin it on?

Actually, Liz has NEVER asked me that question, let alone frequently...

Must be the crack fried brain cells in yer head..

Yer a moron.. Plain and simple..

90% of your comments are ALL ABOUT me.. :D

Lil ole me.. :D

Let's talk political issues

Every one of my comments (sans the occasional car question or Trek comment) is about politics..

You can't handle it because you are ALWAYS on the LOSING side....

Even when ya "won" in 2018, ya really lost because the Dem candidates who won were GOP Lite candidates :D

Thanx for proving once again how much space I have in yer head.. :D

My head? My head!? I don't have a head, Mike; I am a supernova living somewhere just beyond the outer reaches of the known galaxies, but if I did have a head, I wouldn't allow anything with an IQ smaller than its shoe size so you'd be shit out of luck in that regard and barred from entry.

You make it quite clear, though, damn near daily, that it's your own head needing attention. It takes a special kind of peevish and pathetic neediness wherein every legitimate discussion about any political issue you can think of must be devolved into either:

* A discussion about Mike... so Mike can pound his... man boobs; that's right, man boobs. Y'all know how Elizabeth Miller frequently likes to ask Mike if he'd like a medal or a chest to pin it on? The answer to Elizabeth's question is both. There is no chest; there are man boobs.

* A discussion about someone else... where Mike brings up how they were wrong about something or other and claims they'll never be right about anything else and that's why Mike is superior.

So to recap:

* Honey Badger is a supernova with no head.

* If Honey Badger had a head, people with low self-esteem and low IQs wouldn't be allowed into it.

* Mike wants to devolve every political issue into a discussion about Mike or the other poster so he can put another medal on his man boobs and soothe his low self-esteem.

* Pie.

* Let's talk political issues; I'm not one.

it doesn't involve pie, so who cares?

I hear you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mobhve-g5Ls

And I do some serious pie, but will you be needing to feed that need in every... single... comment... box? ;)

I wonder if the crack whore hooker has enough un-fried brain cells to realize the utter irony of her comment.. :D

I doubt it.. Her brain is rot...

Thanx for proving once again how much space I have in yer head.. :D

C. R. Stucki
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Recruit an early middle-aged, super-qualified, heterosexual, politically moderate (center-right) person still married to his/her first spouse, and with the gift of gab. (Perhaps sorta an Obama 2.0)

That's actually sound advice, Stucki. Good for you. :)

Recruit an early middle-aged, super-qualified, heterosexual, politically moderate (center-right) person still married to his/her first spouse, and with the gift of gab. (Perhaps sorta an Obama2.0)

That's actually sound advice, Stucki. Good for you. :)

it doesn't involve pie, so who cares?

JL

We got all the way to comment [18] -- thank you, Elizabeth and Russ -- before Mike showed up to once again turn a very nice political discussion here in Weigantia into a discussion about Mike and individual posters.

Same shit different day.

Mike's perpetual low self esteem wherein he must constantly spew his self-praise while simultaneously hurling insults at others is again duly noted, but Mike's need to self-soothe and get his jollies by insulting every one here isn't a political issue.

Who wants to talk political issues? :)

And how well did that work with the faux impeachment coup???

You DO realize that it's a pipe dream, right??

Don't just take my word for it..

JL & DSWS both say the same thing..

Oops.. I just appealed to authority :D

While I believe that is normally the case, but for the 2020 election I think that I would have to disagree...Trump is the going to be the motivating factor that will push GOTV volunteers to register voters in larger numbers than ever. Republicans have used FEAR as a great motivator to get their base to vote...this year, the Democrats will use the fear of Trump to rid themselves of Trump.

Russ, you make a very great point here... now how to fit it on a bumper sticker?

** Vote Blue **
No Matter Who

Yeppers.. I had soooo much fun in 2016.. :D

Back in 2016, Devon said he thought a candidate would have a much better chance of winning the primary if they waited as long as possible to officially jump into the race...because those who jumped in the earliest rarely survive. It makes sense, as long as you do not wait too long to jump in.

In the modern political age where candidates are now numbering in the high teens and 20s, it is starting to make sense... moreso in the Democratic system where delegates are awarded proportionally than in the Republican system where South Carolina is winner-take-all.

Bloomberg can outspend Trump easily and he seems willing to spend as much as it will take.

And whether or not he is the nominee!
Poor Donald. <--- Compared to Bloomberg. :)

And not only is he flooding the markets with his ads — his ads are REALLY effective. Like his ads calling for “bringing ‘presidential’ back”

Yes, his ads thus far have been VERY effective, and couple Bloomberg's ads with those of multiple Republican groups like "Republicans for the Rule of Law" and "The Lincoln Project"... it's priceless the number of targeted ads against Trump as well as multiple vulnerable spineless GOP senators and enablers.

Have you seen the ad targeted to so-called evangelicals where Trump is shown for the fraud he is and how he's cheapening their faith along with that of America?

https://youtu.be/yoglNFN5-Js

Trump tells a group that if they don't support him, they're going to be so "GD poor." Now, how pathetic is that?

Great post, Russ! :)

Not only is it TRUE... It's FACTUAL as well. :D

It's equally true that you fumduckers (Democratics))are responsible for his election, and sadly, it appears more likely every day, that you are going to do it again!!

Once again.. True.. AND factual.. :D

Thanx for departing at least momentarily from your tilting quest.

Sorry, that's too much to ask from a guy of my generation. I could go with 'dumbphuquers', if that would help??

Recruit an early middle-aged, super-qualified, heterosexual, politically moderate (center-right) person still married to his/her first spouse, and with the gift of gab. (Perhaps sorta an Obama2.0)

ok, let's make believe that you are appointed to be the next chair of the DNC. what would you do to set things right?

JL

It's equally true that you fumduckers (Democratics))are responsible for his election, and sadly, it appears more likely every day, that you are going to do it again!!

Would you agree that, given what is knowable about the electorate, that the success of GOTV is heavily dependent on who the Democratic nominee is?

Always... and you'll get tired of me saying this, but I've always believed the Democrats will form a tag-team of candidates. Remember, we discussed this a long time ago, and now we're getting closer to the election, you can see it starting to form:

* Mike Bloomberg has promised to leave his very robust GOTV effort in multiple states in place... whether he is the nominee or not.

* Beto O'Rourke -- another in a long list of candidates not going to be the nominee, but he's organizing a statewide GOTV in Texas. It was Beto's candidacy in 2018 that helped flip multiple heavily gerrymandered seats across Texas, and he's organizing again.

Tag-team.

To give this some context..

There are likely thousands of John Wilkes Booths or Lee Harvey Oswalds out there who are just itching to take the President out.. If they could be assured of success and escape, nothing would stop them from the dirty deed...

Democrats have already tried the quasi-legal version of a presidential assassination..

I am sure there are thousands who are ready to escalate things..

Apologies...

A second former senior official, former chief strategist Stephen Bannon, said of Trump, "He is mad and he should be mad. The Democrats and the media wasted three years of the nation's time on a witch hunt. Now he understands how to use the full powers of the presidency. The pearl-clutchers better get used to it."
https://www.thehour.com/news/article/Trump-seeks-to-bend-the-executive-branch-as-part-15052083.php

Democrats created this "monster"... Now they whine and cry because they are being endlessly bitch-slapped... :D

Me?? I am enjoying the show and some freshly popped popcorn.. :D

Au contrair mon ami...

The lesson that President Trump has learned is that Democrats are evil and hate him with a depth of passion virtually unseen in the history of politics.. President Trump has also learned that, no matter WHAT he does, Democrats will ALWAYS attack him, demonize him and vilify him..

Given that, President Trump sees no other option but doing what he thinks is morally and ethically correct and to hell with what Democrats think or say...

I fully support President Trump in this course of actions..

Not only do elections have consequences.....

Unsuccessful faux impeachment coups ALSO have consequences..

If you are going to try and kill the king... You better KILL the king...

"{Democrats} chose.... poorly"
-Knight, INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

“Democrats are crooked. ... They’re vicious, they shouldn’t have brought impeachment and that my poll numbers are 10 points higher because of fake news.”
-President Trump

Apparently, President Trump learned the proper lesson..

His response has gone viral..

:D

Democrats and outside analysts are raising red flags that Trump is exhibiting a post-impeachment thirst for vengeance that’s gone beyond bending norms and could potentially cause lasting damage to institutions.

"Going beyond the norms" is ***EXACTLY*** why we elected President Trump...

Elections have consequences, people..

Surely you KNOW this, as it was your Messiah who coined the phrase...

Bummer that ya'all can't seem to understand the concept that elections have consequences, when ya'all ***LOSE*** said elections.. :D

Trump has told confidants in recent days that he felt both vindicated and strengthened by his acquittal in the Senate, believing Republicans have rallied around him in unprecedented fashion while voters were turned off by the political process, according to four White House officials and Republicans close to the West Wing who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about private conversations.
https://apnews.com/e613b755f0750a1df4127f054561d7d6

In all the wild expanse of Weigantia, WHO could have POSSIBLY predicted that President Trump would be STRONGER after the Democrats' faux impeachment coup???

Wait a tic... I think it was ME!!!! :D

One of these days, you people will learn that I, by and large, DO know what I am talking about. :D

And ANOTHER mature adult who knows how things should be discussed..

We're two peas in a pod, DSWS!! :D

Well, counting JL and Liz, 4 peas in a pod.. :D

robably not. It's much more likely than it has been at the same point in any election cycle since the start of the current primary system, but it's still below 50%. At the moment, the odds of no one winning a majority of pledged delegates stand at 36% on https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/.

And 538 gave similar caveats when they said Hillary would win..

However, given the nearly divisions amongst the Democrat Party, I would predict that a contested convention is all but certain..

We'll see come.. wha?? June???

Contested Convention...??? Here come the Democrats!! :D

It's gonna be glorious.. :D

The guy that was supposed to be more electable than anyone has now chalked up a fourth place and a fifth place finish, which is remarkably bad news for his main argument.

The argument was that he could appeal to non-college-educated white guys in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin who pay so little attention to politics that they won't decide which party to vote for until about Halloween. And somehow, the correctness of that argument is measured by the votes of people in Iowa who are so motivated and so partisan that they'll go through an hours-long meeting in January to have their say on their party's nomination.

Looks like Democrats are heading towards a contested convention.

Probably not. It's much more likely than it has been at the same point in any election cycle since the start of the current primary system, but it's still below 50%. At the moment, the odds of no one winning a majority of pledged delegates stand at 36% on https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/. And an actual contested convention is somewhat less likely, because there's the possibility that the plurality winner will need only a few extra delegates who will be lined up before the convention. That could happen either by another candidate releasing their delegates on the first ballot, or by a scripted convention that has the first ballot cast as pledged and then nominates on the second ballot without any real contention.

And it's STILL a lie..

Wait a tic...

You switched things around on me.. :D

Yes, I was an USAF LEO when I was forced to shoot a woman in self defense...

I am not sure what you are trying to say, but THAT is factually accurate...

In my defense, you lie about things so often, one has to pay close attention when you slip in a nugget of fact every now and again.. :D

Bullshit.. You said it WAS going to happen..

You were wrong..

And you can't admit it...

Just like you accuse President Trump of..

YOU, on the other hand, swore there was no way that Trump would be impeached in the House. You were wrong.

Yes, I was wrong.. I admit it.

See?? THAT's how a mature adult discusses things.. :D

You also claimed that I lied when I said you had admitted that you had only been an MP in the military and that you also claimed to have shot a woman.

You did lie..

And it's STILL a lie..

You are the LAST person here who can EVER attack anyone else’s credibility....do not forget that!

That's your opinion.. And it's an opinion based on your own hate and bigotry and, as such, is meaningless...

Oh yes... By all means.. Chaos....

A big heapin' helpin' of Chaos...

And keep 'em comin'!! :D

I hoped that would happen, but even I admitted it was unlikely.

YOU, on the other hand, swore there was no way that Trump would be impeached in the House. You were wrong.

You also claimed that I lied when I said you had admitted that you had only been an MP in the military and that you also claimed to have shot a woman. I provided you with your posts and the dates where you did say everything that you accused me of lying about. Shall I repost these conversations once more so your memory will be jogged? I am happy to humiliate you with your own lies...just say “when” and I’ll do it again!

You are the LAST person here who can EVER attack anyone else’s credibility....do not forget that!

Model takeaway No. 2: The chance of there being no pledged delegate majority — which could potentially lead to a contested convention — is high and increasing.

Much as CW says that Biden should do the right thing by the Party and bow out....

Democrats should do the right thing by the country and bow out...

They have absolutely NO PATH to victory...

There is NO VERSION of this where Democrats win the White House and keep the House..

"The difference is, Democrats will for the most part, I suspect, actually respect the office. :)"

That one goes into the quote jar!! :D

Sanders Is The Front-Runner After New Hampshire, And A Contested Convention Has Become More Likely

But the model needs post-New Hampshire polling to make sense of a chaotic race.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/sanders-is-the-front-runner-after-new-hampshire-and-a-contested-convention-has-become-more-likely/

Looks like Democrats are heading towards a contested convention.. :D

It's truly astounding how all the fortunes are lining up to benefit President Trump... :D

Heh.. It's funny cuz it's true.. :D

On 10 Nov 2016, you asked:

"Will somebody please tell me that everything is going to be alright ..."

And I told you that everything was going to be alright..

And here we are..

Things are much much MUCH better than just "alright"...

:D

I'de like to see the facts that support this claim..

Given Bloomberg's 2015 quotes, I find the claim completely unbelievable...

The guy that was supposed to be more electable than anyone has now chalked up a fourth place and a fifth place finish, which is remarkably bad news for his main argument.

Who could have POSSIBLY predicted this would happen??

Oh.. Wait.. :D

I have to admit that, like Klobuchar's rise, I did not see this development coming.

There's a reason for that.. :D

Bloomberg is on the rise in a big way (again, more about him tomorrow),

If that ignores Bloomberg's 2015 racist quotes, your journey to the Dark Side will be complete.. :(

What it all means is that Democrats are going to have a contested convention...

I would love to hear yer thoughts on THAT, CW.. :D

Oh, I will be very surprised if Dems don't unite, regardless of the nominee but, do you really think Trump will lose to Sanders or Buttigieg? Seriously?

Sadly, they ARE serious about it..

But take heart... They have never predicted ANYTHING accurately, so things are gonna be OK... :D

Yea, but you also said that President Trump would be removed from office with the faux impeachment coup..

Let's face reality, sunshine.. Yer credibility for making accurate President Trump predictions is in the toilet... :D

I think that's hilarious.

As do I...

If Bloomberg is the Dem nominee than all President Trump has to do is run Bloomberg 2015 quotes in campaign ad after campaign ad after campaign ad..

Black Americans will flock to President Trump by the tens of millions.. :D

Plus, just think of the glee I'll have in pointing out that Dems nominated an old white guy billionaire who bought the Democrat nomination.. :D

Honestly, though.. ANYONE who thinks that Bloomberg has a iota of a snowballs chance in hell of beating President Trump is a stark raving moron of the highest order..

It's worse than that.. Donors are already talking about leaving Joe Biden..

Who could have POSSIBLY predicted that Party Purity would take precedence over beating President Trump???

Oh.. wait... :D

While I believe that is normally the case, but for the 2020 election I think that I would have to disagree...Trump is the going to be the motivating factor that will push GOTV volunteers to register voters in larger numbers than ever. Republicans have used FEAR as a great motivator to get their base to vote...this year, the Democrats will use the fear of Trump to rid themselves of Trump.

Back in 2016, Devon said he thought a candidate would have a much better chance of winning the primary if they waited as long as possible to officially jump into the race...because those who jumped in the earliest rarely survive. It makes sense, as long as you do not wait too long to jump in. This way, you avoid a lot of the stupid bickering that the media loves to focus on, and it lets you jump in after many of the other candidates have burned themselves out. You come in big, with lots of fanfare right at the moment you need the excitement to turn into votes...not months before the first primary. Bloomberg seems to be attempting to prove Devon’s theory correct.

But I think Bloomberg is simply proving that the majority of voters in America do not follow politics...but they watch lots of TV and are on social media all the time. Bloomberg’s flooding media and the internet with his ads. “The more you hear something repeated, the more you will believe it is true” is something that psychologists and sociologists have demonstrated works in countless experiments. Bloomberg is putting his name into people’s subconscious.... one ad at a time.

Bloomberg can outspend Trump easily and he seems willing to spend as much as it will take. And not only is he flooding the markets with his ads — his ads are REALLY effective. Like his ads calling for “bringing ‘presidential’ back” : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N_eTbc0VfQ

Great ad. He’s also been pushing ads that just call Trump out as a liar who lies about his obesity, his accomplishments, and his hair. Bloomberg knows how to get under Trumps skin, and Trump definitely seems intimidated by him. Bloomberg might buy his way into the White House, but it’s still better than having a Russian asset as president!

How successful do you think GOTV campaigns are, these days?

Did you see the midterms? That was a GOTV operation from start to finish and coast to coast. Worked out okay. ;)

Oh, I will be very surprised if Dems don't unite, regardless of the nominee but, do you really think Trump will lose to Sanders or Buttigieg? Seriously?

Yes and Yes.

I think they could hold an election tomorrow, and Trump could lose to "Democrat Candidate To Be Named Later," but that's right now. Things change. Things change all the time, and what I think today could be wildly different that what I think tomorrow because stuff happens all the time in between now and later.

I like Senator Klobuchar but, do you think she can beat Trump?

Did you see the midterms? Any of the 5 listed can beat Trump; Bloomberg can beat Trump. Will they? It'll be easier for some of them than others, of course, but I think this election is going to be unlike any other in modern history.

It'll be harder for a woman to win, sure, but it will be women who save our Republic:

* The Iowa caucuses were 58% women, 42% men.
* The New Hampshire primary was 57% women, 43% men.

Meanwhile, Trump hasn't grown his base or made any effort to do so (to date). Trump's play thus far is to lull the American electorate into the feeling that he's inevitable or that he'll win by cheating so there's no reason to vote... that and his standard pathological lying that only works on spectacularly stupid people, and the standard GOP voter suppression.

Trump barely won with it last time by threading the needle... so, we take away his needle. :)

Why do people think Bloomberg can beat Trump?

I'll give you the highlights... in no particular order:

* Because he's got unlimited resources wherein he could spend billions of dollars in order to "get out the vote" in every state in America and mobilize a small army to go to the polls and force the GOP to spend bucket loads of money in order to defend a myriad of states they're used to taking for granted.

* He's been a Republican, a Democrat, and an Independent and could bridge the divide between multiple groups.

* He didn't inherit his money and claim he was a self-made man; he's what Trump claims to be.

* He's small, but he's wiry. ;)

Y'all heard it here first - if Biden is not the nominee, then prepare for Trump's second comin … err, term.

Agree to disagree. There are several candidates who can beat Donald Trump, and I believe I have mentioned before that it might take a tag-team versus one candidate. One way or another, I believe the Democrats will unite at the end of this because there's too much at stake not to do so, and I believe Joe Biden will be involved in that effort whether or not he's the nominee. Joe knows what's at stake, and if he wants to be the nominee, he'll start fighting for it.

And, good luck keeping your Republic.

Luck will have very little to do with it, though; of course, you know that.

I like Senator Klobuchar but, do you think she can beat Trump?

I think that's hilarious.

** Vote Blue **
No Matter Who

But, that doesn't change the outcome.

And, good luck keeping your Republic.

I mean that sincerely, I'm not trying to be facetious, here, of course.

It stuns me to be saying this, but at this point the best thing Biden could do if he wants a moderate Democrat to take on Trump would be to quit the race.

Well, it stuns me to be agreeing with you about Biden, but I do. The overriding factor you will hear when talking with a myriad of voters regarding the 2020 election is choosing the candidate who will:
(1) beat Trump
(2) fight like Hell... to beat Trump.

Joe isn't fighting for it and is basically allowing Trump to defeat him with nary an effort on Joe's part and is out of the gate like a herd of turtles.

It's now or never; either fish or cut bait.