When an election winds up with the difference between the top two candidates being a handful votes out of a gazillion cast, then you can say that practically anything made enough of a difference to decide the election. Even the unicorn vote. But what really decides elections is the biggest difference: who shows up and votes.

“The kind that only sells HER crack”? Are you suggesting that whores are now specializing in the services they offer? “Mouth whores”, “VaJayJay whores”, and “Handy whores”?

And if you were still referring to the drug “crack”, i’m pretty sure the second one is just referred to as a “dealer”!

Yep, that was my hope for how the impeachment trial would end. I still think it was the one chance that the Republican Party had to survive Trump’s destructive presidency without being viewed as entirely complicit for his crimes. They screwed the pooch by putting Trump before defending our Constitution and will deserve everything they will endure when the details of Trump’s criminal presidency become known.

By the end of the impeachment trial, over 70% of Americans believed that Trump was guilty of the charges listed in the AOI and that he needed to be removed from office. Yes, the Senate acquitted him, but that was pretty much a certainty from the start. Trump’s defense team failed at their job...they didn’t convince the masses that Trump was innocent!

And to make matters worse for Trump’s chances, there are idiots like yourself out there screaming obnoxiously at how Trump was “completely exonerated” — completely ignoring the facts and offering a dishonest view of reality — which only makes the 70% feel even stronger like Trump must be removed from office!

Plus, I keep looking at the long game....There are sealed grand jury indictments that the courts are holding until the day that Trump leaves office, which means that Barr cannot stop them, and Trump cannot avoid them!

Because two of the links go to MSN, a Left Wing rag..

I looked at one of the links; the one closest to your ridiculous claim. If I had wanted to look at more of them, I could have certainly done that, but I didn't care. I obviously know what MSN is; apparently you don't. I blame your pure unadulterated and freely volunteered ignorance for that.

The other goes to CNN a definite Left Wing rag...

See above.

Further, you claimed "I didn't look at all of them, but it takes a special kind of stupid to post a reprinted article from The Wall Street Journal located on the Microsoft Network and claim that it's from a left-wing rag."

Yes, I most certainly did claim that. Well then, it seems you are actually capable of posting a factual statement after all... as long as you're quoting other posters and telling them what they know already they said. How pathetic is that?

You would have to CLICK on the link to know that it reprinted an article from WSJ...

Only if you're a fucking idiot without any research skills and a wicked kick ass platform like mine that's not available to the general public.

Any more questions? Feel free to volunteer to keep posting the irrefutable evidence of your ignorance. It is priceless when stupid people fall all over themselves to prove the depth of their ignorance. Don't stop.

Crack whore hooker mad now, so attacks on my wife and grandchildren in 3.... 2..... 1.....

You should have named your trailer whore after Honey Badger, Mike. :)

Everyone knows Kick is a crack whore hooker who is full of shit and hears voices in her head.. ~ Mike

It appears Mike has gone and named one of the trailer whores after my pseudonym. My fake persona is deeply honored, but as for me?

Honey Badger don't give a shit! :)

Maybe he isn’t as popular within Republican circles as Trump desperately wants us to believe he is?

Yes, sir... and those circles continue to shrink, especially in the suburbs that are shifting to the left. This is how Democrats flipped all those House seats and picked up a net gain of around 40 seats while capturing a history-making percentage of more House votes nationally:

Democrats: 53.4%
Republicans: 44.8%

Apparently, yer stoopid..

Because two of the links go to MSN, a Left Wing rag..

The other goes to CNN a definite Left Wing rag...

Further, you claimed "I didn't look at all of them, but it takes a special kind of stupid to post a reprinted article from The Wall Street Journal located on the Microsoft Network and claim that it's from a left-wing rag."

You would have to CLICK on the link to know that it reprinted an article from WSJ...

BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So you got caught in ANOTHER lie...

BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Crack whore hooker mad now, so attacks on my wife and grandchildren in 3.... 2..... 1.....

That's funny because you have claimed in the past that you don't look at ANY of my links..

Wrong, dipshit!

You seem just determined to step up at every chance you get and volunteer to prove your utter ignorance and the obvious reading comprehension problems that have plagued you in the past and appear will go on unrestrained and without abatement.

I've claimed in the past that I didn't click on any of your links, and I don't; I have that trait in common with multiple other posters, in fact. However, reading a Uniform Resource Locator (URL) and determining to where it leads and the article contained by invoking it aren't all that difficult... unless you're stupid.

So to recap:

* Looking and clicking are two entirely different things.

* You simply cannot help yourself from volunteering to demonstrate your pure unadulterated demonstrable dearth of any functioning brain cells.

Why don'tcha make a wager on it?? :D

"Whassa matter, McFly.. Got no SCROT!"

:D

Considering how ya'all are always claiming Republicans are jumping ship "in droves" and that President Trump's base is turning against him....

The Primary victories PROVE how full of shit ya'all really are.. :D

As Kick pointed out,

Everyone knows Kick is a crack whore hooker who is full of shit and hears voices in her head..

Not your best source...

Maybe he isn’t as popular within Republican circles as Trump desperately wants us to believe he is?

Which is proven bullshit by the massive Primary wins..

You really can't win, Russ.. All you have is hatred, bigotry and bullshit on your side.

I mean, hell.. YOU were the one who said that President Trump would be removed from office.

BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

As Kick pointed out, the funniest thing about it is that over 10,000 Republicans took the time to vote AGAINST the man-baby in NH, even though he is a shoe-in to win. Maybe he isn’t as popular within Republican circles as Trump desperately wants us to believe he is?

As the dust settles, it’s clear that President Trump is the only presidential candidate who can credibly claim victory in the first two primary contests. While the Democrat candidates jockeyed for position amid the botched Iowa results and vilified each other throughout the lead-up to the New Hampshire primary, Donald Trump remained above the fray, reminding voters that there is a competent, trusted alternative to the radical Democrats vying to run against him.

Boy, it really must SUCK to be a Democrat these days, eh?? :D

And the Winner of the Democratic Primaries Is … Donald Trump

Not that a victory in this year’s Iowa caucuses would be much to brag about. A mere 170,000 voters participated— about one-third fewer than in 2008, and barely over half the 300,000 voters some Democrat leaders were expecting. The fact that turnout was roughly on par with 2016 is another troubling sign for Democrats — in the subsequent general election, President Trump trounced Hillary Clinton in Iowa, racking up a nearly 10-point margin of victory en route to a convincing electoral college win
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/and_the_winner_of_the_democratic_primaries_is__donald_trump_142377.html

I didn't look at all of them,

That's funny because you have claimed in the past that you don't look at ANY of my links..

Caught ya in another lie, sugar.. :D

6. A brokered convention looms large.

With four or five serious candidates in the race winning delegates in different states (possibly even after they have dropped out) and fairly little separation between the survivors (incentivizing them to stay in), and with multiple Derby horses but no Secretariat, the first real contested convention in decades is a very real possibility. It is possible that such an outcome produces a consensus nominee and strengthens the Democratic Party. It is also possible that such an outcome smashes the Democratic coalition to splinters.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/takeaways_from_new_hampshire_142376.html

And remind the few....
When ill of us they speak....
That we are all that stands between....
The monsters and the weak...

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13839e8d10b9303c8d9aee50576e15b15f4844be91d15073a21097a85b780c50.jpg

If your voter-registration drive can put Utah, Arizona, and North Carolina into play, your opponent has to campaign so as to secure those states.

This. The action of making them defend states like Utah, Arizona, North Carolina, and Texas and use resources (spend money) to defend areas of America where they're not accustomed to having to invest has the equal and opposite reaction of forcing them to abandon some other areas of the country in order to defend those states... whether you flip them or not.

On the flipside, the GOP has spent decades working hard and coming up with news ways to disenfranchise voters in a myriad of ways, up to and including their draconian voter purges and the GOP criminals in North Carolina collecting absentee ballots of minority voters and throwing them in the trash.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/13/voter-suppression-2020-democracy-america

Donald Trump's game thus far appears to be to convince the American electorate that he's inevitable in 2020 so might as well stay home because there's no need to vote. This, of course, is utter nonsensical fantasy.

And every bit of effort you put into registration and GOTV, no matter where, has a chance to help with the rest of the ballot. Even Massachusetts can elect a Republican governor, and even Alabama can elect a Democratic senator.

Yes, sir... and wouldn't it be great if states like North Carolina, Kansas, and Kentucky could elect a Democratic governor that could help with all that voter suppression of every conceivable kind? Oh, wait!

For those of ya'all who accuse me of just posting Right Wing rags (I am looking at you, Baltasar, where ever you are...) the last 7 comments are from LEFT WING rags...

I didn't look at all of them, but it takes a special kind of stupid to post a reprinted article from The Wall Street Journal located on the Microsoft Network and claim that it's from a left-wing rag.

You seriously needn't keep volunteering to supply the endless proof of your bone-deep ignorance and your previously well-documented reading comprehension problems... but you can't help it... because you're stupid.

Sanders is an avowed socialist whose “free college” mantra has captured the part's youth vote, despite his having turned 78 years old. For decades he has lectured against the problems of big banks, an economy that works for the few, and the need for revolutionary change. It is odd — in a time of such great prosperity, low unemployment and rising wages — that his message would resonate.

Considering the utter hatred and bigotry of Democrats..

Not so odd.

It will indeed be 1972 all over again.. And 1998 in reverse all over again..

In other words, it's a FACT that Democrats won't win the White House..

It's a FACT that Democrats will lose control of the House..

Once again, I can't WAIT til 4 Nov rolls around.. :D

The demoralizing and dejection of the Democrats here in Weigantia will be as sweet as candy.. :D

I’m a former Republican who’ll vote for any Democrat.

Take a number and get in line; they're leaving the Republican Party in droves.

Most times, I like to wallow in my genius...

I would wager it takes a substantially large high power microscope to locate it.

It's a two-delegate difference

Hay JL...

Oh... FFS!

Thank you again for making our case for us. Idiot.

You saying that Trump supporters have a 2+2=5 issues??

The poster not named "JL" was responding to my comment, whereupon you once again volunteered to interject with your demonstrable ignorance.

Thank you again for proving our point; it's the bonus that keeps on giving because you're stupid.

What about Dumbocrats and their 1=2 issue???

You cannot help yourselp; you make Democrats look like Einsteins.

Bernie Sanders 12
Pete Buttigieg 13

So The New York Times is apparently using the delegate count sans the unallocated delegate that will be awarded to the declared winner of the Iowa caucuses, and that's Buttigieg... unless, of course, the recount or recanvass or whatever they're calling it actually does manage to overturn the winner of the SDEs (highly unlikely)... and that's Buttigieg.

And in NH, they're both at 9.

Yes... so NH is a tie if we use Bernie's metric of declaring himself the winner of a caucus state which by design declares the winner as the candidate who wins the most delegates ---> Of course not. Primary states don't work that way; Bernie won New Hampshire.

So to recap:

* The caucus states determine a winner via delegate count and always have; they didn't even report vote counts until 2020 (and it's FUBAR). Caucuses have always sucked.

* The primaries determine the winner by votes.

Bernie didn't win in Iowa no matter how many times he claims he did, and he knows that.

** Vote Blue **
No Matter Who

Dumbocrats totally nuetered themselves with their constant attempts to overthrow the fairly, freely, legally, duly, democratically and Constitutionally elected President Of The United States...

The only question that remains between now and 3 Nov is how low Democrats can sink.. :D

Nancy calls for an investigation!!

BBBBBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yea.. Cuz THAT'S worked out so well for Dumbocrats in the past, eh??!! :D

Trying the same thing over and over and over again, hoping for a different result.. :D

The very definition of insanity.. :D

Van Jones: 'People are depressed' by primary process, just want 'somebody to vote for against Trump'

Jones's comments come following Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) winning a tight New Hampshire primary, finishing just ahead of former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.). It was also a night where top-tier candidates Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and former Vice President Joe Biden struggled, finishing fourth and fifth respectively.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/482715-van-jones-people-are-depressed-by-primary-process-just-want-somebody-to-vote

Democrats are depressed, decimated and demoralized..

I think it's so cute that some Democrats in Weigantia actually believe that Democrats can beat President Trump in Nov..

Of course (sans JM) they don't believe it enough to make a wager... :D

Funny how that is, eh? :D

CW,

B. What changed??

Nothing changed, dipshit; your pathetic inability to comprehend written English is alive and well and particularly rears its ugly head when anyone employs a vocabulary over a Trumpian fourth=grade level.

Are you REALLY that dense and stoopid?? ~ Mike

Yes. Yes, you are: EVERY. EFFING. DAY.

Rare or not, they still decide elections..

If your voter-registration drive can put Utah, Arizona, and North Carolina into play, your opponent has to campaign so as to secure those states.

For Democrats, that is a MIGHTY big 'IF'...

I don't care who wins the unicorn vote. Even if the vote of each individual unicorn counts double, I still don't. Because unicorns don't exist. Swing voters aren't quite as rare as unicorns, but they're rare enough.

In order to win a general election, there are three things you need to do. You need to get enough of your non-voters to turn into voters. You need to keep your unreliable voters from turning back into non-voters. And then there's the big one: you need to avoid helping the other side do the same job with their turnout voters.

Then there's the premise that only Wisconsin and Michigan matter. (Or was it Pennsylvania and Florida?) Electoral-college strategy isn't eleven-dimensional chess, but neither is it 1x1 tic-tac-toe (where there's only one square, and whoever gets it is the winner). If your voter-registration drive can put Utah, Arizona, and North Carolina into play, your opponent has to campaign so as to secure those states.

And every bit of effort you put into registration and GOTV, no matter where, has a chance to help with the rest of the ballot. Even Massachusetts can elect a Republican governor, and even Alabama can elect a Democratic senator.

You would think so, eh??

And yet, here we are.. :D

Even the dumbest of the dumb Democrats realize that President Trump is going to win re-election...

But.. You heard it here first.. :D

Democrats also began to realize that the economy’s continuing strength will complicate their messaging and that the failed effort to remove Mr. Trump from office may have negative political consequences. Nearly 60% of Americans say they are better off financially than they were four years ago. A much-discussed Gallup survey put Mr. Trump’s job approval at 49%, a personal best, and found rising public approval of and identification with the Republican Party.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/democrats-dont-hit-the-panic-button/ar-BBZTPCE

Seems to me, it's a PERFECT time to hit the PANIC BUTTON...

Democrats are decimated and demoralized.. Just as predicted...

:D

"Ninety-five percent of murders, murderers and murder victims" are male minorities between 16 to 25, Bloomberg says.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/opinions/bloomberg-recording-racism-stop-and-frisk-filipovic/index.html

THIS is the guy Democrats are pinning their hopes on???

"It is to laugh..."
-Daffy Duck

:D

Mr. Trump is now hard at work making that happen. And who’s to stop him?

Exactly...

Who's to stop him??

Democrats tried not once, but TWICE to overthrow the fairly, freely, legally, duly, democratically and Constitutionally elected President Of The United States...

They completely and utterly failed BOTH times..

In fact, with each failure, Democrats became weaker and President Trump grew stronger..

A sci-fi staple is fighting a monster with lasers or phasers or photon torpedoes or blasters, but the energy only makes the monster grow stronger...

Looks like that particular staple has come home to roost on the Democrats heads...

If only someone of clear-headed objective thinking could have looked at the FACTS and warned Democrats that this exact scenario would play out..

Oh.. wait... :D

Members of Congress, administration officials, law enforcement officials, residents of blue states — anyone who has ever displeased Mr. Trump is a potential target. Heads may not wind up on literal pikes, but the president is already neck-deep into his reprisal tour.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/vengeance-is-mine-saith-the-president/ar-BBZU0u9

As I have always said..

"If yer gonna try and kill the king.. You better KILL the king..."

President Trump is unleashed.. Trump/America haters have NO WAY to rein him in...

The faux impeachment coup only made President Trump stronger...

Surely Democrats would not be stoopid enough to try again, eh??

When I was a Republican, I used to count on the Democrats being, in the words of the GOP consultant Rick Wilson, “holistically bad at politics.” The Democratic wave in 2018 suggested that the party, when faced with a menace on the scale of Trump, could regroup, and I was pleasantly surprised at how moderate candidates led the way to recapture the House.

As I have said repeatedly.. It was MODERATE Dem candidates, acting as GOP Lite...

THAT is what led the way in 2018...

In the era of Democrat "woke" and Party purity???

None of those moderate Dems can be found..

Ergo, Democrats are in for a shellacking unheard of in the annals of American elections..

Can't wait for 4 Nov to roll around..

The gloating here in Weigantia is going to be EPIC... :D

Meanwhile, the process—and I am now the last to repeat what millions have already said—was an embarrassment. We have run out of metaphors (dumpster fire, circus, rodeo, other words unprintable in this magazine) for a Rube Goldberg scheme using an app poorly designed by younger people that was not understood by older people. If the Democrats are making the argument that they can be better guardians of the American electoral process after Trump’s chicanery, this was not the way to start.

Democrats have proven beyond any doubt that they cannot be trusted with the levers of American power and might..

My anxiety stems from two realizations about the Great Iowa Debacle. First, the result shows a Democratic Party whose base still seems to lack the commitment to beat Trump. Second, and just as important, the complete meltdown of the process was a humiliation for a party whose argument is that Trump is too stupid, corrupt, and incompetent to be president.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/no-way-beat-trump/606109/

Democrats..

Their own worst enemy...

The spectacular collapse of Joe Biden as Democratic frontrunner
https://nypost.com/2020/02/11/the-spectacular-collapse-of-joe-biden-as-democratic-frontrunner/

This is not one of those times.. :^(

It's 2...

You can post one link and it won't be moderated..

One exception is a link from National Review.. For some reason the NNL filters don't like a NR link..

It's a two-delegate difference

Bernie Sanders 12
Pete Buttigieg 13

Hay JL...

You saying that Trump supporters have a 2+2=5 issues??

What about Dumbocrats and their 1=2 issue???

Bernie Sanders 12
Pete Buttigieg 13
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/04/us/elections/results-iowa-caucus.html

And in NH, they're both at 9.
(How many links does it take for the software to have a snit about it? I think it was three, but on the off chance that it's two, I'll leave out the NH link.)

Scientists’ honesty about the uncertainties of global warming is hurting their cause with the people they need to convince most.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-01-09/climate-change-scientists-honesty-is-killing-their-cause

Get that?? Honesty in the Global Warming con is a BAD thing and should be avoided...

Democrats... :eyeroll:

Good News from the Apocalypse Desk
https://tinyurl.com/s8pmagy

Here is an especially telling quote..

"On the one hand, as scientists we are ethically bound to the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but — which means that we must include all the doubts, the caveats, the ifs, ands, and buts. On the other hand, we are not just scientists but human beings as well. And like most people we’d like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic change. To do that we need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. This ‘double ethical bind’ we frequently find ourselves in cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. I hope that means being both."
-Steven Schneider

Climate {sic} "scientists" are arguing that the current process is too "honest"... too "transparent"..

Currently, these so-called "scientists feel the better approach is to lie to people, ignore and cover up all the data that doesn't support the agenda...

So much for the commitment to "truth", eh??

It's simply amazing how much connects the current Democrat Party to the "Big Brother" government of Orwell's 1984..

The Democrat faux impeachment coup brought Joe's actions in Ukraine to light...

Democrats were VERY afraid that Bernie would win the nomination..

Dem's actions brought about the very thing they didn't want..

Ya'all REALLY have to appreciate the irony.. :D

He's almost done..

He has to do extraordinarily, ASTONISHINGLY well in SC to even continue...

But since there are many reports of black Americans abandoning Joe in droves, I think it's safe to say that Joe Biden's campaign is toast...

Jussie Smollett Indicted Over False Hate Crime Attack By Special Prosecutor; Ex-‘Empire’ Star Back To Court
https://deadline.com/2020/02/jussie-smollett-indicted-empire-hate-crime-attack-special-prosecutor-1202857747/

Faking a racist hate crime is WORSE than an actual racist hate crime..

I hope they throw the book at him..

And then want to ignore the Vanity Vote when it no longer suits their agenda.. :D

CW,

You were a Bernie supporter in 2016 Dem Primary.. From the gist of the comments, you appear to be against Bernie..

A. Is that factually accurate??

B. What changed??

Russ,

Funny, the Constitution is an “official document”, and Trump has no authority to alter it! Trump cannot alter court rulings, not change the criminal code at his whim.

Are you REALLY that dense and stoopid??

The Constitution is a HISTORICAL document..

You are really reaching with your hate and bigotry, ain'tcha...

As Bernie puts it: "I got the most votes... where I come from, that's a win!"

Heh.

Bernie wasn't saying that in the 2016 Washington and Nebraska caucuses wherein he won the caucuses while Hillary easily won the primaries in both states when people were allowed to vote in regular fashion.

At the very least, you've got to admit that he was smart to force Iowa to report the actual caucus vote (after a similar result in 2016) rather than just the SDEs...

Yes, he was, because he clearly wanted to claim a victory in the caucuses knowing the rural areas wouldn't suit his delegate totals while being able to claim a victory in the primaries where the delegates might not. ;)

Gave him something to crow about, right?

Sure did, and if the Democratic Party presidential primaries ended today, Bernie could claim he won both states while at the same time still coming in second place and having to eat crow. :)

As for national delegate counts: (1) it's too early for that, and (2) pundits count states won, not delegates, at least for now...

As for national delegate counts: (1) Bernie is actually behind by two delegates, and (2) if Bernie was the delegate leader, there'd be no end to the crowing like a rooster insisting all that strutting and screeching made the sun come up. ;)

As for your fun fact, you're ignoring your own metric -- Trump won all the delegates, didn't he?

Yes, obviously, but I wasn't mentioning Poor Donald's vote totals in that context since I too follow your own stated metric and never make hay out of the safe predictions of an incumbent president winning his Party's primaries in order to give me a boost. I was simply mightily amused by the bigly number of Republican voters who took the time to get out in shitty weather in order to cast a vote against their Party's incumbent president while at the same time knowing Trump would win... and I would wager that their middle fingers wasn't the kind of flipping that Trump had in mind at his Monday New Hampshire rant/rally. :)

Buttigieg won the delegate count. Sanders won the first-round tally and the second-round tally. That's one kind of win for each of them.

No, it isn't because it's a stupid caucus.

Each of them is entitled to make noise about the count they won.

You're inventing an "entitlement" to claim a win based on a vote tally that heretofore has never existed in Iowa since the inception of its caucuses and right up until the "Great Iowa Debacle of 2020(TM)" just days ago. Caucuses aren't determined in the same way as primaries and never have been, but then I would wager you already know that.

The second-round tally doesn't matter at the national convention.

And neither does the first-round "tally" because no vote "tallies" from Iowa will matter at the Democratic National Convention where they'll be counting delegates.

But the one-delegate difference almost certainly won't either.

It's a two-delegate difference, and of course it will matter since it's the delegate "tally" that determines the nominee and not the vote count, and if you don't believe me, just check out the Democratic Presidential primaries of 2008 wherein Hillary Clinton was determined the winner due to her larger vote "tally"... oh, wait!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

I can assure you that the delegates are what they'll be counting in Milwaukee later this year... along with with all those "Bottles of Beer on the Wall," naturally... and if the nominee were being picked today, Bernie would obviously come in second because he's behind in delegates, has never held a lead in the delegate count, and they don't determine a winner based on a vote "tally." :)

As Bernie puts it: "I got the most votes... where I come from, that's a win!"

Heh.

At the very least, you've got to admit that he was smart to force Iowa to report the actual caucus vote (after a similar result in 2016) rather than just the SDEs...

Gave him something to crow about, right?

:-)

As for national delegate counts: (1) it's too early for that, and (2) pundits count states won, not delegates, at least for now...

The score stands at:

Bernie - 1
Pete - 1
Everybody else - 0

And that's what the story will be tomorrow... as well as the "Dem party establishment starts FREAKING OUT in earnest" storylines, of course.

As for your fun fact, you're ignoring your own metric -- Trump won all the delegates, didn't he?

Just sayin'...

Heh.

-CW

Nationwide Delegate Race

Now to find out who's ahead in the nationwide delegate race to 1,991... the necessary delegate total to win the Democratic nomination:

Candidate --- IA --- NH -- Totals
1. Buttigieg........14 ....... 9........ 23
2. Sanders........ 12 ....... 9......... 21
3. Warren.......... 8 ........0 .......... 8
4. Klobuchar ......1 ........6 .......... 7
5. Biden ............ 6 ....... 0 .......... 6

Anyone not listed above has 0 pledged delegates to date.
__________

Edited to reflect Amy Klobuchar's 1 delegate pickup in Iowa and everyone else having bupkis. :)

Sanders 45,842
Buttigieg 43,274
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/iowa

Buttigieg won the delegate count. Sanders won the first-round tally and the second-round tally. That's one kind of win for each of them. Each of them is entitled to make noise about the count they won.

The second-round tally doesn't matter at the national convention. But the one-delegate difference almost certainly won't either. It's all about the spin cycles between now and Super Tuesday. And for that, a tally is as good as a delegate.

A win is a win is a win, at least to the punditocracy.

Apparently a loss is a win to Bernie Sanders since he keeps claiming he "won in Iowa" when he most assuredly did not win the Iowa caucuses. Or in the alternative, if Bernie insists on claiming he won Iowa, he must concede that he tied in New Hampshire since he and Buttigieg are clearing that state having won 9 pledged delegates each with Klobuchar taking the remaining 6 of the total of 24.

This guarantees that Bernie won't be ignored for the next three weeks. A Pete win might have. That's a big difference...

Nah. Bernie wouldn't have been ignored if the positions were reversed since they're both leaving New Hampshire with the exact same delegate count of 9 each and 6 for Amy Klobuchar, and that brings us to our........ drumroll ..................

Nationwide Delegate Race

Now to find out who's ahead in the nationwide delegate race to 1,991... the necessary delegate total to win the Democratic nomination:

Candidate --- IA --- NH -- Totals
1. Buttigieg........14 ....... 9........ 23
2. Sanders........ 12 ....... 9......... 21
3. Warren.......... 8 ........0 .......... 8
4. Biden ............ 6 ....... 0 .......... 6
4. Klobuchar .....0 ........6 .......... 6

FUN FACT: As I type this, William Weld is perilously close to winning a healthy 10% of the Republican Party vote in New Hampshire, and anyone not named Donald Trump is approaching a healthy ~15%.

That's a Hell of a lot of Republicans coming out to shoot the middle finger to Comrade Trump. Salute!

A win is a win is a win, at least to the punditocracy.

This guarantees that Bernie won't be ignored for the next three weeks. A Pete win might have. That's a big difference...

-CW

You know, one of the most annoying things about Donald Trump is that he always makes any event all about himself.

It's primary night, dude. Either join the party or prepare to be ignored. How's that for reflecting reality?

Sheesh...

-CW

This could go late into the night...

Nah. Bernie won with an "impressive" approximately one quarter of the entire state located just next door to his home state. Seems kind of anemic considering he's practically a resident. Teasing ;)

** Vote Blue **
No Matter Who

Feel the Bern!!

-CW

i had to look that abbreviation up.

your lack of attention to pie-based candidates is disturbing.

JL

TL;DR

-CW

BS - 26.1
PB - 24.0
AK -20.0
EW - 9.3
JB - 8.5

This could go late into the night...

-CW

CW is nailing it with his predictions regarding:

* The top 5 candidates in the New Hampshire primary

* All 5 of his predictions about the endless whining of Don Harris regarding ___________ <--- Who gives a shit? I stopped reading after the word "Harris." :)

BS - 27.6
PB - 23.3
AK - 19.5
EW - 9.4
JB - 8.6

Pete and Bernie are exactly where they were with only 27% in. Amy slipped 0.6, the biggest movement of any of them.

-CW

Do you know how delegate allocation works? The news will sound not-as-bad for Elizabeth Warren if she at least gets a delegate or two.

She won't.

It sounds as though there are separate 15% thresholds for at-large and for each of the state's two congressional districts.

That's it... 8 pledged delegates to distribute proportionally among the candidates in one congressional district to the West, 8 to distribute likewise in the congressional district to the East, and 8 to distribute likewise throughout the entire state.

But it's a friggin' secret, as far as web searches are concerned, because any actual information is buried under an endless heap of opinion blather and horse-race reporting.

Well then, there you have it... more or less. :)

So you're saying there'll be whining with nothing to show for it... but archived whining that's demonstrably nonproductive and remains endless at the present time? Heh.

Let's see if I called this one right... hmmm?

Well, he definitely does seem to enjoy whining via keyboard; I can tell because I used to read them and by the length of the comments that are contained in the comment boxes I did used to read. Don't get me wrong when I confess I don't read them because I actually do still read them; I just simply stop reading them after I get to the word "Don" followed by the word "Harris." :)

It sounds as though there are separate 15% thresholds for at-large and for each of the state's two congressional districts. But it's a friggin' secret, as far as web searches are concerned, because any actual information is buried under an endless heap of opinion blather and horse-race reporting.

And I'd bet the farm on it.

Sigh.

-CW

We are now officially down to SINGLE DIGITS!

Woo hoo!!!

Heh.

-CW

Good point about delegate threshold. Right now, only 3 candidates in the running for delegates...

-CW

BS - 27.6
PB - 23.3
AK - 20.1
EW - 9.7
JB - 8.5

Pete slowly gaining on Bernie, but everyone else pretty static for now...

-CW

It's this type of reality-based hard-hitting political commentary that leaves me breathless. Of course, I am toying with you... as I am wont to do.

So those are my predictions: (1) Bernie Sanders, (2) Pete Buttigieg, (3) Amy Klobuchar, (4) Elizabeth Warren, and (5) Joe Biden. What are yours? Think I got it monstrously wrong?

I think you got it monstrously correct this time with Bernie netting about ~11 pledged delegates out of the two congressional districts as well as statewide, Pete Buttigieg likewise netting about ~8 delegates, and Amy Klobuchar netting whatever is remaining since neither Warren nor Biden are likely to come close to clearing the 15% in either district or statewide and therefore coming out of New Hampshire with 0 delegates.

FUN FACT: If my memory serves correctly, the State of Indiana has ~70 pledged delegates while Vermont has a paltry ~11. :)

Yang is out! Announces he's suspending his campaign...

Wow, that was quick! Didn't expect any such announcements until at least tomorrow morning...

-CW

Bernie out front, 28.8
Pete - 22.0
Amy - 20.3
Liz - 9.4
Joe - 8.7

Right now, looks like Amy's got a shot at catching Pete, and Joe also has the chance to pass Liz.

Of course, it's still way early...

-CW

OK, I'm going to bed...

Heh. Just kidding!

-CW

I would urge you to read that last line you wrote multiple times.

While looking in a mirror.

Here's my prediction for you:

1. Endless whining that no candidate is a unicorn
2. Endless whining that perfection (as you define it) has not been achieved by anyone
3. Endless whining that even the candidates trying to change the big money system are not pure enough for you
4. Endless whining about me
5. Endless whining...

Let's see if I called this one right... hmmm?

Heh.

Everyone else -

Hey, results are already coming in! Less than 10%, but still earlier than I thought...

-CW