Thank you.

It works well enough unless you're too impatient to use it. :)

There, fixed it for you. And preview has never really worked (sigh)...

Michale [44] -

"MICHALE IS ALWAYS FACTUALL CORRECT"

Heh. Heh heh. Irony is dead.
(reminder: spellcheck is your friend)

James T. Canuck [56] (and anyone else who knows British pop culture) -

Heh.

I remember a time (early 1990s) when I was listening to the BBC morning radio program and they started a serious discussion about "banning dummies" from Britain. This was in the rave era, I should mention. I turned to my then-girfriend and said "That's a great idea, but where are they going to put them all?"

Heh.

For Americans, we would have used the word "pacifiers." There was a fad of rave-goers using tiny pacifiers to stop the teeth-grinding from ecstasy, and apparently some babies had choked on the tiny ones (not the regular, baby-sized ones), so they were talking about banning the tiny ones.

Still, it was pretty funny to me. I often got confused by the BBC morning news, as when there was a problem with the zebra crossings in London (oh, excuse me, "ZEB-ra crossings"). I though the zoo had had a breakout or something...

Heh.

Michale [62] -

What **IS** it about Democrats that they can't accept the will of the people???

BWAH hah hah! (Reminder: Hillary beat Trump by 3 million votes)

[68] -

Oh, that's pretty rich, too. Remember "You lie!" during an Obama SOTU? That's when SOTU decorum died.

[75] -

Just as Hillary Clinton is..

OK, kudos to you for that. At least you're being consistent...

[79 and others] -

Careful what you say about TX remaining red. I thought the same thing about VA, and look at it now!

Heh.

Oh, and a final note: Dems (myself included) were happy to run against Trump in 2016, because we all thought he'd be the easiest one to beat in the general. So be careful what you wish for vis-a-vis Bernie.

:-)

-CW

Makes you wonder if the likes of Graham, Pompeo and other close Trump conspirators ever envision themselves on the business end of a Trump twitter swipe when their number comes up for a good solid tossing under the bus.

There is no IF — it is exactly this vision that has caused them to follow and defend Trump at every turn.

I had hoped that we were gonna see a figurative repeat of Julius Caesar’s removal from power by our Senate, but what little hope I held that the party had not completely turned its back on our Constitution was dashed by their acquittal of Trump. History tells us Caesars reign ended after he was stabbed 23 times. It would require the votes of all the Democrats plus 22 more Senators to vote guilty to remove Trump. I just pray Trump doesn’t destroy our nation the way that Caesar’s narcissism destroyed the Roman Empire.

This would have been the perfect opportunity for them to have removed Trump from office. If they voted unanimously that Trump was guilty of doing what Trump openly admitted he was guilty of committing, then its likely that Trump’s power over his base would have been severely crippled. The GOP would have claimed that they had been fooled by Trump until now, and that would have been enough for most of their supporters to not hold them accountable for Trump’s sins. But after this trial, the GOP cannot separate itself from Trump’s corruption. Refusing to hear testimony from witnesses made a mockery of the Senate trial. The GOP deserves any repercussions that they suffer from their blind devotion to Trump.

That anyone could write this without noting the epic irony of its message is beyond me!

Pelosi should be removed from her speakership because she supposedly “shredded decades of tradition, decorum and civility that the nation could use now more than ever.” The President has done all of those things she is now accused of doing, but on an exponential level, yet she needs to be removed for the “good of the country”?!?

Maybe Mr. Turley should reconsider resubmitting his article to include:

The President is more than a political partisan, particularly when carrying out functions such as the State of the Union address. A president appears in the House as a guest of both chambers of Congress. The President represents not HIS PARTY OR HIMSELF but the entirety of the chamber. At that moment, HE must transcend HIS own political ambitions and loyalties.

If I exchange our past presidents’ last names in place of “president”, Trump is the only name that even my autocorrect knows does not belong for the sentences to be correct.

Thank you ever so much for letting me know I got to you, Mike! :D

Attacks on my lovely wife and grandchildren in 3... 2... 1....

If all that useless drivel and prattling on and on in [79] was an effort to indulge your ridiculous conspiracy theories, I regret to inform you that no one on the forum is falling for it... least of all Honey Badger.

Honey Badger don't give a shit! :D

Dumbshits may try and confuse the issue with semantics and other hate-filled and bigoted comments.

Congratulations on your big breakthrough and admission of being a "dumbshit."

But the FACT is, President Trump is INNOCENT of all charges and INNOCENT of all accusations..

Damn, you're dumber than a box of rocks about legal concepts... and you insist you're a law enforcement officer! *laughs*

This is a fact that no amount of hatred or bigotry or any combination of the two can erase..

You mustn't keep allowing yourself to confuse pity with hatred... you'll just get angry and cloud even further what little judgment you have; they're counting on your perpetual anger and grievance combined with the perpetual victimhood. :D

President Trump is COMPLETELY innocent..

Nope. He was found "not guilty." Innocence and being found "not guilty" are two totally different legal concepts... and you call yourself an LEO! *laughs*

FACT....

Deal with it, libtards

Now you're just proving my point about anger. :D

As I said.. The FACTS clearly show that Bernie won Iowa...

I don't care, Mike; that's your argument with CW since it was him you were correcting while at the same time allowing me to live rent free in your empty head.

Those who have shit for brains cannot concede when they are wrong..

You were contradicting Chris Weigant while simultaneously allowing me a free ride on your lonely little brain cell, but I will say this in Chris's defense:

* CW isn't the "shit for brains" who claimed Bernie's campaign was over.

* Chris's update for which you took issue was 100% correct so there's really no need for him to admit he was wrong when most prolific poster of fiction to his forum questions his facts.

Class dismissed, dipshit. :D

Romney going against President Trump is like those stoopid and moronic couples who U-TURN a team on AMAZING RACE, solely because the team pissed them off...

You have just tacitly admitted that Trump must not be questioned by anyone... even when he admits to doing that for which he was impeached and does it again on live television and then refuses to cooperate with the investigation.

The GOP has become a Party of slaves to a man... not even your oft spewed drivel of "Party über alles"... everyone must bow down to The Don and kiss his ring or be ridiculed, stoned, and banished from the kingdom. How medieval is that?

Romney is no hero, but it definitely takes a lot of courage to go against a tyrant when you know all the spineless vassals are going to come at you with halberds.

They just let their emotions cloud their tactical thinking and react hysterically...

Trump admitted he did it and then did it again in front of multiple news cameras... not complicated, and those pretending it didn't happen are the ones letting their emotions cloud their thinking. They don't want to get tweeted at by the big bully nor stung to death by the mindless drones protecting the hive.

Bernie won Iowa...

Texas is red and will remain that way for the rest of our lifetimes..

Oh.. And PA and FL went for President Trump...

There were no bombshells are a Mueller hearing..

President Trump is completely innocent of all accusations...

Democrats royally frak'ed up the Impeachment and royally frak'ed up Iowa..

President Trump will be elected for 4 more years..

ALL FACTS that the crack whore, Victoria cannot accept.. :D

Attacks on my lovely wife and grandchildren in 3... 2... 1....

I too can attest Mike is exactly "like the Lannisters":

* Little man who repeatedly enlists others to fight his battles
* Slow to grasp the concept that his worship is a tyrant
* Dumber than a box of rocks and doomed to perish under them

and .........drumroll.......................................

* Pure unadulterated fiction

It's hard to put a leash on a dog once you've put a crown on its head. ~ Tyrion Lannister

Turnabout is fair play.. :D

It's that simple...

You can tap dance all ya want.

But President Trump is innocent of all charges and accusations..

Just as Hillary Clinton is..

Apologies, JM, I think the apostrophe in that link for TX-23 goobed it up so... behold... TX-23:

https://tinyurl.com/t5x8v5w

What's hilarious is that you keep staring the future in the face and still remain in denial. That day is coming when Texas turns blue, we just don't know exactly when that will happen, 2024? 2028? But it IS coming.

Exactly right. Texas will flip nationally, the only question is when it will happen. Parts of Texas have already flipped, and I expect more parts of it will flip in 2020. Ripe for the flipping: TX-23... a huge chunk of Texas on the border.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas's_23rd_congressional_district

Will Hurd barely held onto it in the Blue Wave of 2018 and has decided to retire in the Texodus of 2020. The Texas Trumplicans are retiring in droves. :)

Nancy Pelosi should resign
BY JONATHAN TURLEY

Her drop the mic moment will have a lasting impact on the House. While many will celebrate her trolling of the president, she tore up something far more important than a speech. Pelosi has shredded decades of tradition, decorum and civility that the nation could use now more than ever. The House speaker is more than a political partisan, particularly when carrying out functions such as the State of the Union address. A president appears in the House as a guest of both chambers of Congress. The House speaker represents not her party or herself but the entirety of the chamber. At that moment, she must transcend her own political ambitions and loyalties.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/481598-nancy-pelosi-should-resign

Sore luser...

That's all Pelosi is.. A sore luser...

Nancy Pelosi should resign
BY JONATHAN TURLEY

Her drop the mic moment will have a lasting impact on the House. While many will celebrate her trolling of the president, she tore up something far more important than a speech. Pelosi has shredded decades of tradition, decorum and civility that the nation could use now more than ever. The House speaker is more than a political partisan, particularly when carrying out functions such as the State of the Union address. A president appears in the House as a guest of both chambers of Congress. The House speaker represents not her party or herself but the entirety of the chamber. At that moment, she must transcend her own political ambitions and loyalties.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/481598-nancy-pelosi-should-resign

That's all Pelosi is.. A sore luser...

That's all Pelosi is.. A sore luser...

But the FACT is, President Trump is INNOCENT of all charges and INNOCENT of all accusations..

This is a fact that no amount of hatred or bigotry or any combination of the two can erase..

President Trump is COMPLETELY innocent..

FACT....

Deal with it, libtards

I agree with some of that and would just like to add:

Don't bet against the astronaut. :)

An American is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.. For the purposes of impeachment, the Senate is a de-facto in a court of law..

Like I said, it's always a bonus when you're the one highlighting repeatedly how stupid you are. If you run a red light, you aren't "innocent" of doing it whether or not you are found "guilty" in a court of law or even written a citation for said misdemeanor you definitely committed. Courts and juries across America do not determine "innocence;" they either determine you are "guilty" or "not guilty" of that for which you've been indicted/charged... unless, of course, you make a pretrial agreement with a prosecutor(s) or a Court.

You wouldn't think that multiple posters on this forum would have to keep explaining legal issues to a self-described "law enforcement officer," but here we are.

Until such time as President Trump is ruled guilty by the courts or by the Senate, President Trump is *INNOCENT* of all charges against him..

There are no "charges" against him. Trump cannot be "innocent" of a charge that doesn't exist in a court of law. If he were pronounced "not guilty" by a Court... as he was in his impeachment trial before the Senate, it is a false equivalency to claim that "not guilty" is the same as "innocent."

You may not like that, but it is nontheless factual..

Said the so-called "law enforcement officer" who keeps repeatedly posting incorrect legal drivel while at the same time voluntarily making himself look ignorant and fraudulent. :D

As I said.. The FACTS clearly show that Bernie won Iowa...

Those who have shit for brains cannot concede when they are wrong..

Sanders is still in the lead in Iowa and Victoria's "peeps" (IE the voices in her head) are still full of kaa-kaa..

My eardrums are definitely located in my head, and when I listen to my lovelies on the phone, their sweet voices are definitely in my ears.

Tell us more about caca, though, since we here in Weigantia aren't "like Mike" and the Trump Cult Vassals whose heads are jammed so far up inside Trump's ass that everything they hear is filtered through Demented Donald -- the self-described "Chosen One" -- who keeps insisting he is America.

And please keep posting your updates about Bernie; it's always a bonus when you're the one highlighting repeatedly how stupid you are:

Bernie is done.. His campaign is over..

~ Mike

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/10/04/ftp545/#comment-146328

The results of Monday's Iowa caucuses were delayed after there were problems with a smartphone app.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/buttigieg-sanders-neck-neck-iowa-nearly-all-votes-reported-n1131261

Because Bernie won, Democrats want a DO-OVER..

What **IS** it about Democrats that they can't accept the will of the people???

Of course it does...

The comment you quote IS written proof..

So, once again, you are completely and PROVABLY wrong.. :D

...Technically, no one can admit it first when you are wrong, only you can admit you are wrong. A rookie redundancy gaff, one easily overlooked.

And yet, here you are.. Confirming to all I have residence in your head.. It's awful lonely here, what with you having no brain cells and all..

With respect, the Left has been plying that BS since before Nov 2016...

The only way the stock market will tank is if Democrats get any more political power...

It must be an inner contemplative catharsis, because no such written proof exists.

...Technically, no one can admit it first when you are wrong, only you can admit you are wrong. A rookie redundancy gaff, one easily overlooked.

LL&P

You know what that poll really tells you?

Time to get your money out of the stock market, that's what!

At least until we have that time-sensitive edit function.

But, I wouldn't worry about it - we all know what was meant. :)

CW, Indeed, the useless one third of the population were duped into believing that once underway, the other two 'ark' ships would reunite with them and then all three would drone through the inky blackness of infinity until arriving at their designated new home...It was another quirk of fate that soon after all the public telephone sanitizers were hurled into the doomed ship, those who remained perished during a pandemic started by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty pay phone...

I've been to Finland, I've seen Slarty's signature on the fjord....

LL&P

There is nothing tactical or strategic about it.

They just let their emotions cloud their tactical thinking and react hysterically...

Just like Romney...

'M pleasure.. When I am wrong, I am the first to admit it..

just for the record, romney is no hero, he's just a senator who bucked his party on the big stage and voted the way he felt like voting.

And yet, Democrats treat him like he's the second coming.

Which is hilarious because they hated and despised Romney when he ran against Odumbo..

It's all about the D v R....

You do indeed..

As JL and Akhijadan can attest to, I am like the Lannisters..

"Lannisters always pay their debts.."

@dh,
why ride the titanic when you could ride the pie-tanic?

"What makes you think Trump will ONLY be impeached once???

Because I am fairly certain that Democrats are NOT so stoopid as to stab themselves in the eye again..

Are you saying they ARE that stoopid???"

NO, but Trump IS that stupid!

"And yet, it was razor thin close.

No, it wasn't.. President Trump DECIMATED Hillary.."

AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, NOT THE FACT. Just proves what I said before. YOU DON'T ACCEPT facts Michale when they contradict you.

"Here's the deal..

I'll even be magnamous towards you..

Your claim is that Dems will take the White House, take the Senate and retain the House..

I'll give you 2 out of 3.. If any 2 of those happen, you win..

If 1 or none of those happen I win..

I already outlined your consequences.. You holding up a 3'x 5' sign in a PUBLIC PLACE that says MICHALE WAS FACTUALLY ACCURATE... MICHALE IS ALWAYS FACTUALLY ACCURATE

Have a friend snap a pic and post it on the internet with a link posted here..."

DONE. But remember what I said. YOU DO THE SAME IF YOU LOSE.

"If you get 2 of the 3 predictions factually accurate, I'll take what consequences (within reason) you deem appropriate..."

So I have YOUR WORD ON THAT.

Because I am fairly certain that Democrats are NOT so stoopid as to stab themselves in the eye again..

Are you saying they ARE that stoopid???

And yet, it was razor thin close.

No, it wasn't.. President Trump DECIMATED Hillary..

I am absolutely sure. Wager taken. :-D

OK..

Here's the deal..

I'll even be magnamous towards you..

Your claim is that Dems will take the White House, take the Senate and retain the House..

I'll give you 2 out of 3.. If any 2 of those happen, you win..

If 1 or none of those happen I win..

I already outlined your consequences.. You holding up a 3'x 5' sign in a PUBLIC PLACE that says MICHALE WAS FACTUALLY ACCURATE... MICHALE IS ALWAYS FACTUALLY ACCURATE

Have a friend snap a pic and post it on the internet with a link posted here...

If you get 2 of the 3 predictions factually accurate, I'll take what consequences (within reason) you deem appropriate...

Just as a hint, T-SHIRTS have always been popular. : D

Gotta run.. Back in a couple hours.. :D

"The day was coming" for President Trump being removed from office on impeachment.."

What makes you think Trump will ONLY be impeached once???

"The day was even coming when we would have President Hillary clinton.."

And yet, it was razor thin close.

"You won't win the White House...

You won't win the Senate...

Yer gonna lose the House..."

Like all your predictions Michale? Must I remind you?

1)The Democrats were toast and going to lose the Mid-terms. Didn't happen.

2) Doug Jones was going to lose the Senate race in Alabama, didn't happen.

3) Democrats were going to lose in Virginia, didn't happen.

These are the facts and the reality..

You'll save yourself a LOT of angst and listening to me gloat if you acknowledge these facts now Michale..

"Then take the wager.. You debase yourself by admitting I am factually accurate and post the pic for all to see..

If yer so sure, I mean.. :D"

I am absolutely sure. Wager taken. :-D

Yea.. Ya'all said "the day was coming" when Mueller busted President Trump for Russia Collusion..

"The day was coming" for President Trump being removed from office on impeachment..

The day was even coming when we would have President Hillary clinton..

With you people, it's ALWAYS "the day is coming"...

But it's hilarious that THAT particular day... NEVER ARRIVES..

How funny is that, eh!? :D

As for 2020, in the meantime we will settle for possibly flipping: Arizona, Iowa, Florida, or North Carolina into the blue column...

Wet dreaming still, I see.. :D

It won't happen, JM... You really need to accept the reality..

You won't win the White House...

You won't win the Senate...

Yer gonna lose the House...

These are the facts and the reality..

You'll save yourself a LOT of angst and listening to me gloat if you acknowledge these facts now..

Take even one of those, and any TWO of the three that were lost before: like Michigan and Pennsylvania, and we won't even need to get Wisconsin back.

Then take the wager.. You debase yourself by admitting I am factually accurate and post the pic for all to see..

If yer so sure, I mean.. :D

"Actually, I am the only one here who DOES acknowledge ya'all's facts.."

PROVE IT

"You said he would be removed from office.. You were wrong.. You just can't admit it."

PROVE IT. Repost MY quote where I said that.

"And, something substantial for the forum.. If you are wrong, you take a picture of yourself holding a large sign saying "MICHALE WAS FACTUALLY CORRECT.. MICHALE IS ALWAYS FACTUALL CORRECT"..

Stakes too high?? :D"

NOT AT ALL. DEAL. But in RETURN, if I am right and YOU are wrong, you have to do the following:

If you are wrong, you take a picture of yourself holding a large sign saying "MICHALE WAS FACTUALLY INCORRECT.. MICHALE IS ALWAYS FACTUALLY INCORRECT".

Stakes too high for you? :-D

Actually, I am the only one here who DOES acknowledge ya'all's facts..

It just SEEMS like I don't because ya'all rarely HAVE any facts..

But I promise to acknowledge your facts and concede if they are actually facts and actually accurate..

Or you can choose your normal course of action and run away..

Actually I was not wrong. Trump was impeached.

You said he would be removed from office.. You were wrong.. You just can't admit it.

1) The Democrats keep the House

Name your quatloos.....

1 million quatloos..

And, something substantial for the forum.. If you are wrong, you take a picture of yourself holding a large sign saying "MICHALE WAS FACTUALLY CORRECT.. MICHALE IS ALWAYS FACTUALL CORRECT"..

Stakes too high?? :D

"But not NEARLY as funny as ya'all claiming Dems are going to take Texas...

THAT is hilarious.. :D"

What's hilarious is that you keep staring the future in the face and still remain in denial. That day is coming when Texas turns blue, we just don't know exactly when that will happen, 2024? 2028? But it IS coming. Keep an eye on Georgia too, with the growing liberal Atlanta suburbs.

As for 2020, in the meantime we will settle for possibly flipping: Arizona, Iowa, Florida, or North Carolina into the blue column... all eminently doable and well within the realm of possibility. Take even one of those, and any TWO of the three that were lost before: like Michigan and Pennsylvania, and we won't even need to get Wisconsin back.

"Facts to support?? None??"

I have a lot of facts to support. But why bother with you??? Since you never acknowledge facts that prove you wrong anyway....

"You were wrong about the impeachment, JM.."

Actually I was not wrong. Trump was impeached. And the vote to convict him was bipartisan. You can't now deny either of those. Also, I never said that Trump would ever be removed from office. Most of us knew that was never going to happen. So I was not wrong there either.

Seems like you are zero for three there Michale.

"Wanna put down some quatloos/bragging right on Nov?? :D"

Sure! How many you want? Since I already gave you my list of predictions in response to yours in a previous post if you'll remember.

1) The Democrats keep the House

2) The Democrats take the Senate

3) Trump loses

Name your quatloos.....

This argument kind of falls apart, however, if Sanders is routinely beating her at the voting box.

How does that work? It's no surprise that Democratic primary voters aren't terrified of having the government own its own snow plows. (Oh no, socialism.) Alas, it's an indisputable fact that swing-state swing voters are.

If we nominate Bernie Sanders, we will probably lose. If we nominate Elizabeth Warren, we will probably win. Of course, that's partly because we could nominate him in a fit of self-destructiveness, but we definitely won't nominate her unless she's better at this than she's been looking lately.

Nationally, I think Biden is still the one and only front-runner.

[11]
Anecdotes are anecdotes (and little lambs eat ivy)...

Loll. Best line I've seen in a while.

But not NEARLY as funny as ya'all claiming Dems are going to take Texas...

THAT is hilarious.. :D

And what makes it even funnier is that ya'all who spew such BS actually BELIEVE it!!! :D

Facts to support?? None??

Awww right, so it's just another Wet Dream..

You were wrong about the impeachment, JM..

Wanna put down some quatloos/bragging right on Nov?? :D

"The perceived temerity of Mitt Romney with his denunciation and vote against Trump will stick in his craw, he won't waste any opportunity to harangue Romney and his family, and in doing so could easily find himself at odds with millions of eager right-wing Mormon voters, Romney has been the Mormon at the heart of government, and their standard bearer for years, Utah could easily slip through Trump's fingers if the wrong buttons are pushed."

NOT just Utah. It could have an even bigger impact on Arizona, where Romney has a lot of supporters also. Both in the electoral college, where Arizona is already expected to be a close swing state, because of the influx of people moving from California, and in the even more crucial vote for Arizona Senator. Watch out Martha McSally, your vote to acquit Trump along with Romney's vote to convict, just might come back to bite you in the ass.

Insufferable, ain't I?? :D

Yep, I already acknowledged that mistake in #36 to JL above.

But thanx for pointing that out.. I appreciate yer efforts to keep me factually correct..

So, when I DON'T hear from ya ( or anyone else ) the facts are acknowledged..

Thanx again. :D

(quoting [52] of that thread)Here's a fact: it's the first of history's 3 presidential impeachments with a vote to convict from the president's own party.(end inner quote)

Sorry, JL.. That is NOT factually accurate....

Five Democrats (Virgil Goode, Ralph Hall, Paul McHale, Charles Stenholm and Gene Taylor) voted in favor of three of the four articles of impeachment, but only Taylor voted for the abuse of power charge.

Those were votes in the House, to impeach. Not votes in the Senate, to convict.

U.S. Economic Confidence at Highest Point Since 2000
https://news.gallup.com/poll/283940/economic-confidence-highest-point-2000.aspx

Again, I have to point out that President Trump was wrong..

Real Patriotic Americans will never tire of WINNING!! :D

On another note, I was wrong yesterday on the Senate votes against Clinton.. Those were House votes I posted.

My mistake..

Exactly..

Just like President Trump is going to win re-election..

Technically, it's not a fact.. But it will be.. :D

He has been acquitted, but it was a political decision rather than a judicial one, sure as it was in the cases of Johnson and Clinton.

President Trump's acquittal would HAVE to be a political decision because the impeachment itself was ALSO a political decision..

So, one would naturally follow the other..

And even judicial acquittal is not a statement of innocence, only a finding that the prosecution failed to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

An American is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.. For the purposes of impeachment, the Senate is a de-facto in a court of law..

Until such time as President Trump is ruled guilty by the courts or by the Senate, President Trump is *INNOCENT* of all charges against him..

You may not like that, but it is nontheless factual..

Amend that to read

Sanders is ahead of Buttagig by almost 3,000 votes in the 2nd Round..

My bust...

My
Ass
Got
Acquitted

Read 'em and weep, people.. :D

Candidate Votes Percent 2nd Round Percent SDE Delegates
Sanders 42,672 24.7 44,753 26.5 547 11
Buttigieg 36,718 21.3 42,235 25.0 550 11
Warren 32,007 18.6 34,312 20.3 381 5
Biden 25,699 14.9 23,051 13.7 331 0
Klobuchar 21,896 12.7 20,525 12.2 255 0

Hopefully ya can make sense of this...

Sanders is ahead of Buttagig by almost 10,000 votes in the 2nd Round..

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/iowa_democratic_caucus_results.html

Sanders is still in the lead in Iowa and Victoria's "peeps" (IE the voices in her head) are still full of kaa-kaa..

:D

Just the facts..

This will be Trump's undoing,

{{{YYYYAAAAWWWWNNNNN}}}

Another TRUMP IS TOAST...

What's so hilariously cute is that you actually think you have ANY credibility.. :D

Hay, wait a tic.. Weren't you one of those morons around here who said President Trump would be removed from office???

Lost another, eh?? :D

Don't forget the public telephone box sterlisers [no sic, intended Britspelling...]. Unless I've mixed up my sci-fi references, that is. And weren't they shot into the heart of the sun, not just "the cosmos"?

Heh.

As for socialism, we may be about to find out whether the rhetorical ghosts of the Cold War still haunt the American electorate. Personally, I wonder how many people are still left alive that remember how it was demonized "back in the day"...

For everyone -

UPDATE:

With 97% in, Bernie's definitely catching up. It now stands (SDEs) at Pete 26.2, Bernie 26.1. It's within reach, in other words, much to my surprise. Maybe Bernie will have ALL the bragging rights, come sunrise tomorrow...

:-)

-CW

Utah could easily slip through Trump's fingers if the wrong buttons are pushed.

Just so you know, you're speculating about one of the most conservative states in America. The day Utah "easily" slips through Trump's fingers would definitely be a day that Utah would be the least of Trump's worries... I promise you. :)

I'm not sure America can go from the extremes of Trump to the extremes of Sanders in one Presidential cycle, it's too much of a heavy lift, given the present climate, it would polarise American politics to the point of no return. The US will need a decade of gradual easing into healthcare for all, once people have had five or six years of not worrying about how to pay for cancer treatment, giving birth, and quarterly visits to their DR, they will have forgotten the Neolithic system of pay as go medicine. And all it will cost is a reshuffling of the insurance industry workforce...I like the Golgafrinchan solution personally, round up the useless section of society, the paper pushers and insurance brokers and fire them off into the cosmos, with no landing instructions, naturally.

LL&P

Well, that's not a very good reason for not talking about removing the cap.

Why don't Democrats take a page from the Jerry Brown playbook where he literally ended the chronic California budget crisis overnight when proposition 30 was passed.

If Democrats study how Brown achieved that, then they have their answer to not only how to save social security but how to beat Trump.

The 125K - 500K demographic is where the lion's share of political donations come from (stands to reason, they have disposable income...), so some politicians are leery of raising their taxes.

Bernie and Warren and a few others talk of just scrapping the cap altogether, though...

Kick -

To his credit, everyone says Pete's victory speech was the best of all of them.

To everyone -

UPDATE

Bernie's catching up. With 95% of the precincts in, he's retaken the lead in second votes, meaning he doesn't have to qualify "I won the most votes." He's also closing on Mayor Pete in SDEs as well, currently only 0.7% behind. He started at 1.9% behind, but with 95% in, he's running out of votes so he probably won't wind up with the win. Like 2016, he'll have to settle for a VERY close second (Hillary beat him by 0.2% in SDEs).

-CW

Speaks volumes to the atheist mind, it nakedly showcases the Trumpian view of religious people and how they regard people of faith the moment they step a foot out of line.

Even while Moscovy Mitch was giving his closing sermon, admonishing the leftwing for operating within their bubble of loathing all things Trump, DTL is twitter-baying for Romney's blood, apparently not getting the memo from senate leadership that it's the Dems not the GOP who are trying to dilute the American experience with their bloody-minded partisanship.

Historically, it's never turned out well for the system that demands absolute fealty from its membership and devours those that dare express individuality. They used to be called Fascists or Communist...Authoritarian would be the blanket designation.

This will be Trump's undoing, there's only so many people you can coerce into your schemes or con into your camp and then unceremoniously jettison in a shower of abuse and ridicule. Even the thinnest of character can see that their public life forever hangs in the balance while Trump bounces from one scandalous machination to the next while they blunder about covering it up.

Makes you wonder if the likes of Graham, Pompeo and other close Trump conspirators ever envision themselves on the business end of a Trump twitter swipe when their number comes up for a good solid tossing under the bus.

The perceived temerity of Mitt Romney with his denunciation and vote against Trump will stick in his craw, he won't waste any opportunity to harangue Romney and his family, and in doing so could easily find himself at odds with millions of eager right-wing Mormon voters, Romney has been the Mormon at the heart of government, and their standard bearer for years, Utah could easily slip through Trump's fingers if the wrong buttons are pushed.

LL&P

Why don't Democrats talk about whether the cap should just be scrapped.

I'm sure there are good reasons for it ...

I'm afraid so. But, he used the $400,000 figure. He's not a bleeding heard liberal, you know. :)

I prefer to wait for actual numbers before drawing conclusions.

You don't say!? ;) *laughs*

I'm just juiced that my sources nailed it; I had no idea what was actually going on. I was literally in the hospital with my phone ringing off the hook and no TV.

I wish I could have heard all those victory speeches. I actually thought y'all were joking about that. :)

Huh? Was he talking about just raising the cap, or doing away with it altogether?

Sometimes Dems want to build a weird donut hole, where (for instance) everything up to about 125K is taxed, but everything from 125-250K is not, and then everything above 250K is taxed again. Was that what he was talking about?

Kick -

Anecdotes are anecdotes (and little lambs eat ivy)...

I prefer to wait for actual numbers before drawing conclusions.

:-)

-CW

Only three politicians have won a contested Iowa caucus and become president:

* Jimmy Carter
* George W. Bush
* Barack Obama

So you're saying Buttigieg way outperformed his polling numbers!? If only someone had heard this from multiple people and given this forum a heads-up. :P

When asked tonight on the CNN townhall what he would do to save social security, Biden talked about removing the cap without saying he would remove the cap.

When will you write more about this?

Well, he's done a lot worse in Iowa before.

In other words, this ain't the firs Fiasco in Iowa, you know.