Straight from the WaPoop Propaganda center.. :D

Straight from the transcript of Trump’s rambling speech from last night’s rally. Those were his words, if you are able to take something that direct and simple out of context, that is on you!

Ohhhh.. is the thought of having background checks run on you bringing up some sad memories? Like how police officers can’t have a record like yours and still be in law enforcement?

A document outlining the plans — timed to coincide with the third anniversary of Trump’s January 2017 executive order — has been circulating the White House. But the countries that would be affected if it moves forward are blacked out, according to two of the people, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the measure has yet to be finalized.
https://apnews.com/753968e412fab06e6fb8180e7ac98d47

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!! :D

A document outlining the plans — timed to coincide with the third anniversary of Trump’s January 2017 executive order — has been circulating the White House. But the countries that would be affected if it moves forward are blacked out, according to two of the people, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the measure has yet to be finalized.
https://apnews.com/753968e412fab06e6fb8180e7ac98d47

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!! :D

OK.. Fine.. Let's do a background investigation on Joe Biden..

Starting with his extortion of Ukrainian leadership to fade the heat from his son..

What?? You don't really want background checks??

Smart boy...

While Congress may not act to get the background checks of candidates running for Congress passed into law, that does not mean that the state’s cannot! Members of Congress represent the state’s in which they live... if we can’t get Congress to do what is best for our nation, then we will convince to states to clean up their mess.

Iran’s decision to pretend it was retaliating for the death of Qassem Soleimani by lobbing ineffective missiles is terrific news for America and freedom-loving people everywhere. So was Trump’s Wednesday offer of negotiations, which he wrapped in even tougher economic sanctions and warnings against any new attacks on Americans.
https://nypost.com/2020/01/08/the-chicken-littles-got-everything-wrong-on-trump-and-iran/

Again, I have to ask..

Do ya'all ***EVER*** get tired of being wrong???

Cuz I can tell you that I ***NEVER*** get tired of calling things dead on ballz accurate.. :D

Yea.. That's been your claim since even before President Trump took office.. Which is indicative of the validity of the claim..

Too bad you don't have any facts whatsoever to support the claim..

CRS's point is blatantly obvious..

If ya'all are so against election interference, why didn't you complain about it when Democrats were the one's interfering???

The answer is equally obvious..

You don't really mind election interference whatsoever..

You just use it as a shiny new bludgeon to beat President Trump over the head with..

Republicans who now slavishly insist upon supporting anything and everything Trump does -- no matter how outrageous, no matter how disruptive -- should be warned that future presidents (Democratic ones most definitely included) may one day point to current GOP behavior while insisting that they have exactly the same rights that Trump has claimed for himself. Because this is always the ultimate test of supporting any expansion of presidential powers: would you support a president of the other party doing such a thing? Again, Republicans would do well to consider this in the Trump era, because it's my guess that some of these precedents are going to come back to bite them later on. And it'll be pretty tough for them to argue against these precedents after so wholeheartedly supporting them now.

Allow me to travel back in time 4-6 years and make a few minor changes..

Democrats who now slavishly insist upon supporting anything and everything Obama does -- no matter how outrageous, no matter how disruptive -- should be warned that future presidents (Republican ones most definitely included) may one day point to current DEM behavior while insisting that they have exactly the same rights that Obama has claimed for himself. Because this is always the ultimate test of supporting any expansion of presidential powers: would you support a president of the other party doing such a thing? Again, Democrats would do well to consider this in the Obama era, because it's my guess that some of these precedents are going to come back to bite them later on. And it'll be pretty tough for them to argue against these precedents after so wholeheartedly supporting them now.

See how well that works??

I said much the same thing when Barack I HAVE A PEN AND A PHONE Obama was setting many of the precedents you are complaining about right now..

Funny how no one here minded that a bit..

Ya'all only mind it when it's a GOP'er who is wielding the power..

Surely everybody is aware that WE have a very LONG historey of interfering in that other kind of "foreign election" meaning their elections.

I feel certain that nobody, Dem or Rep, would ever ask whether that kind of "foreign election interference" is legal!!!

So what is your point? We have done this to other countries in the past — look no further than present day Iran and Iraq to see how well that worked out. Was it right when we did it to them? No! We are not able to change what occurred in the past...we can only look forward and try to make amends where we can — and make the best of the bad situation we caused where we cannot!

You are overlooking the one key factor between our country’s interference in other people’s elections and Trump inviting other countries to interfere in ours... What was done to other countries was done on behalf of our national security; Trump’s actions only compromise our national security and only benefit him and the foreign countries that provide him aid. To make it clear in case you missed the real message here...Trump betrayed our nation, his oath, and our Constitution! His name will be synonymous with “traitor” throughout history.

Straight from the WaPoop Propaganda center.. :D

No wonder you didn't want to attribute it.. :D

Out of context BS.. That's the name of yer game..

“You know it’s interesting, as I’m saying this stuff — you know, ‘They want crime, they want chaos’ — I’m saying all this stuff, and then I say, ‘Gee, now I sort of understand why they hate me for it,’ ” Trump said.

Democrats LOVE election interference... Except when the GOP does it...

Obama sycophants traveled to Israel to try and help swing Israel's election away from Netanyahu...

It's a tribute to Obama's incompetence that the attempt failed.. Impressively failed..

Re "Foreign election interference".

I find it exceedingly fascinating,and perhaps telling, that when you raise that in the litany of Trumpian sins, you only have in mind Trump's solicitation of political dirt that might influence an American election.

Surely everybody is aware that WE have a very LONG historey of interfering in that other kind of "foreign election" meaning their elections.

I feel certain that nobody, Dem or Rep, would ever ask whether that kind of "foreign election interference" is legal!!!

So what is it, are we just stupid, or could it be we're both stupid AND hypocritical??

With Pelosi humiliated and President Trump crowing over the vanquished and bitch slap Pelosi..

It's almost as if Pelosi WANTED to be embarrassed and humiliated...

And she is the MOST IMPRESSIVE Democrat of the week!???

WOW... :D

Speaker Pelosi says House will move to transmit impeachment articles for Trump trial next week

The decision to release the articles came as fellow Democrats in recent days had started to voice frustration and impatience with the speaker's approach. They stressed the urgency with which impeachment was treated at the end of 2019 and questioned why the House would then delay a trial by using articles as leverage.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-articles-of-impeachment-will-be-sent-to-senate-to-allow-trump-trial-to-begin-next-week

Once again.. I nailed it.. :D

No wonder things are deathly quiet around here..

Ya'all (NEN) can't hang... :D

Except for illegal immigrant criminals who violate our laws with impunity..

By their actions, Democrats have stated unequivocally that Crimmigrants are above the law..

Deadbeat Democrats..

:eyeroll:

Once again, it was Obama and the Democrats who set this precedent..

President Trump is simply following the set precedent..

If only someone had, at the time, said that Democrats will be singing a different tune on these actions when the GOP is in control..

Wait a tic..

Someone DID say that...

"IT WAS MEEE!!!!!"
-Jim Carrey, LIAR LIAR

:D

Ya'all were warned.. Ya'all chose to let Party slavery take precedent over what was morally and ethically acceptable...

Ya'all have no moral or ethical foundation to complain about President Trump...

As I said afore, this is a major problem ya'all have..

Ya'all were utterly and completely wrong about President Trump, with ALL ya'all's predictions...

Yet ya'all can't admit it..

Yea.. Ya'all have been predicting that every since Trump was elected..

Funny how it's **NEVER** come to fruition..

On the other hand, ya can make the argument that times are indeed scary.. For Trump/America haters and the Democrat Party..

That simply means that things are GREAT for this country and patriotic Americans.. :D

Given the degree of polarization between Democrats and Republicans I don't see much chance of passing the completely necessary and reasonable reforms you propose.

The only hope against permanent Trumpism (government by Supreme Leader directives) is thru Supreme Court rulings based on existing law. Assuming court rulings can be enforced. Scary times ahead.

Good morning.

Good morning! :D

And what a bright and cheery morning it is, eh? :D

At least, a benefit for President Trump and the GOP..

Pelosi's move has all but guaranteed that Senate Democrats running for POTUS will be pulled off the campaign trail to sit in the Senate and process this faux impeachment coup..

Good call, Nancy.. You just scrooed over your Party's Presidential candidates.. :D

Pelosi’s ability to influence the rules for the impeachment trial has dwindled as her standoff with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has dragged on.
https://news.yahoo.com/pelosi-allies-stumped-impeachment-standoff-090000314.html

Like I said... Pelosi is taking a HUGE credibility hit..

I could use the same reasoning when ya'all bitch and moan about President Trump's actions..

Would you accept it?? :D

That's my point.. It has NEVER been in her interests (or House Democrat's interests) to not send the articles..

It was a HUGE political miscalculation.. As the facts CLEARLY show..

She is giving President Trump *ANOTHER* win in addition to total exoneration..

Which means that until now she thought it was in her interest to hold off.

"(S)he chose.... Poorly."
-Knight, INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

It's very telling that her final act as speaker will be a total and complete humiliation..

Pelosi's Embarrassing Impeachment Blunder

There is, of course, nothing to "give." Pelosi has no standing to dictate the terms of a Senate trial; no constitutional right or political leverage. Why she has put herself in a position that will ultimately end, one way or another, with her surrendering to McConnell is perplexing.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/01/10/pelosis_embarrassing_impeachment_blunder_142115.html

Again, I have to ask..

What part of THE GOP HAS TOTAL CONTROL OVER SENATE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS is unclear to anyone??

Looks like NO IMPEACHMENT is moving back up.. :D

Democrats have really lost big time on this entire debacle...

Of course no one here (NEN) would ever concede that fact..

Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans

The president added that it would have been impractical to have alerted Congress, given the "split-second" nature of the decision to kill Soleimani.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-toledo-ohio-rally-iran-impeachment

Democrats have PROVEN beyond any doubt that they simply cannot be trusted with classified intel..

Actually, this is not factually accurate..

It only appears so because ya'all have changed the definition of what constitutes a lie..

Basically, ya'all define "lie" as anything President Trump says.. :eyeroll:

Total stonewall

You mean, like Obama did with Fast/Furious???

As I said, practically every "precedent" you name was actually established by Obama...

Pelosi to 'soon' send impeachment articles for Senate trialAP

Pelosi, D-Calif., faces mounting pressure from Republicans and some Democrats to quit delaying the president’s trial in the Senate, three weeks after the House Democrats impeached Trump on charges of abuse and obstruction. Republicans say Democrats are embarrassed by their vote.
https://apnews.com/d3b2714efc1f153d3192b138d3c33521

WOW.. I knew I was good, but I didn't realize I was THAT good.. :D

‘The Speaker began something that she herself predicted would be 'so divisive to the country' ... and now she is unilaterally saying it cannot move forward towards a resolution," he added.

Pelosi royally frak'ed up... :D

In addition to being totally exonerated by the US Senate, Pelosi has give President Trump *ANOTHER* win by her caving and sending the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate..

I predict Pelosi will cave within a week... :D

McConnell backs measure to change Senate rules, dismiss impeachment without articles
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/477587-mcconnell-backs-measure-to-change-senate-rules-dismiss-impeachment-without

In Weigantia of days gone past, I would have been complimented for my prescience... :D

Since I know none will be forthcoming, I'll simply have to resort to gloating.. :D

Who could have ***POSSIBLY*** predicted that the Senate would change their rules to allow the Senate to tell House Democrats to take their articles and shove them up their collective asses...

Oh... Wait.. :D

Making money off the presidency

Oh ppuuuuullleeeeeessssseeeeee

How much did the Clintons make off Bubba's presidency..

How much did Odumbo make of HIS presidency???

Tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars..

Funny how when a guy with a -D after his name makes money off of his presidency, you are strangely silent..

Hmmmmmm....

As I mentioned to Liz above, many of the items you complain about were actually precedents set by Obama and President Trump is simply following Obama's precedent..

However, credit where credit is due..

Excellent word play on the title... :D

Are you saying that Democratic presidents in the future are likely to repeat some or all of these Trump precedents?

Why do you sound so shocked??

Many of the "precedents" that CW is going on about were actually made by Obama..

President Trump is simply following Obama's precedent..

But, of course, ya'all are perfectly OK with the guy with the -D after his name setting precedents...

— laws must matter.

Except when it comes to illegal immigrant criminals and other laws that interfere with your Democrat Party agenda..

:eyeroll:

Russ,

Except for me stating —

You didn't state your opposition to CW's opinion AT THE TIME..

You see, this is exactly why it's impossible to take you seriously..

Yer so full of shit, yer eyes are brown..

And I do not feel the need to express every time I disagree with someone here.

Except you DO when it's President Trump or myself or any other Republican..

You see the point??

Doubtful..

Funny, you never mentioned that opposition on 10/7/19.

Actually, I did.. On several occasions..

You simply ignore it because it doesn't fit your hate/bigoted agenda..

. I say this not based on you saying those words in any of your posts...because you never said those words!

Actually, I did.. Several times.

I would go back over that time and find the comments where I opposed President Trump..

But knowing that it's IMPOSSIBLE for you to admit yer wrong, what would be the point???

But the point is, you can say that you disagreed with Trump regarding the Kurds now, but you never said it before now!

Actually I did.. Several times..

You claim I didn't?? Prove it.. With facts..

We need a law that instructs the DOJ to treat the POTUS as it would any citizen when there is evidence that warrants an indictment for a felony. We do not have a king — laws must matter.

Trump chose not to divest from his company, at his own peril. I have to wonder how many people are going to be comfortable renting office space, visiting a resort, leasing an apartment, or staying in a hotel that is likely a target for terrorists? It’ll take one attack on something with the “Trump” name attached to it’s signage and that will be the end of his brand!

As far as I can see, if a Democratic administration were to pull any of Trump's BS in the next decade or so (which I very much hope it wouldn't by the way - or else that makes the Dems into equally contemptible hypocrites), the Repubs will let go with both barrels of their propaganda cannons - aimed entirely at their own base, which is the only audience they care about. A Democratic President can do no right, and a Republican president can do no wrong, is the only message this base needs to hear, and consistency, precedent, and even the rule of law have no place in that equation.

Everything you've written is true, as far as I'm concerned. But none of it matters, as far as I can see, based on my exposure to American politics over the past, oh, thirty to fifty years. I only pray that future Democratic (and future Republican, too, though good luck with that) presidents will NOT decide that criminality, corruption, assassination, foreign collusion, one man wars, etc. are just fine now, because President Trump did it. Yes, even if, were he or she to do those things, the Republicans would *in theory* have no ethical basis for complaint or criticism.

So yeah, by extension that WOULD give future Dem "Precedential" candidates license to commit that same sin (provided they're capable of pulling it off).

Are you saying that Democratic presidents in the future are likely to repeat some or all of these Trump precedents?

Is there really that high a level of equivalency between Democrats and Republicans?

I would forcefully argue not and probably will, tomorrow ...