Police officers are sworn, not commissioned...

In the majority of states in the United States, they are both.

Your demonstrable ignorance on this subject is again duly noted and go a long way to proving Russ's point. You seem blissfully unaware that the state you live in has a Law Enforcement Commissioner and the requirement by law that police officers be certified by that commission.

https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/CJSTC/Commission/CJSTC-Home.aspx

One cannot generally become a sworn officer in the United States without the certification of said commission, and that's what is meant by "commissioned officer." It's not complicated unless you're an idiot.

Seems strange, you supposedly married to a cop and don't know this...

Seems infinitely normal for you to claim you're a law enforcement officer, and yet you haven't the first clue about how to become one... including in the state you reside. Russ is correct, and you're woefully misinformed and haven't got a clue, and for some reason I cannot fathom you belong to that special group of rubes who believe that repeating a lie over and over makes it magically become a fact when it doesn't... it just makes gullible rubes out of anyone daft enough to believe your oft repeated bullshit. :)

As I said.

You said "the majority."

The majority of Weigantians (who have expressed an opinion on the subject) feel the same way... :D

Now you've simply moved the goal posts, proven my point, and identified yourself as a liar in one fell swoop. Good form. :)

If you have not read the US former ambassador to Ukraine’s prepared statement to the House committees that she spent 9 hours providing testimony to today, I encourage you to hit the link below.

Well, it was awesome. :)

Russ can't address the FACT that it's virtually guaranteed that President Trump will remain in office.

Russ can't address the FACT of ABC's fake news trying to fake a Turkish "attack" on Kurd civilians..

Russ can't address the FACT that the majority of Weigantians who have expressed an opinion know that Trump is going to win re-election..

Russ has to concentrate on me, personally because I am whuppin' his ass on his Trump/America hatred and bigotry... :D

Commissioned officers are military..

Commissioned police officers are rent-a-cops..

Police officers are sworn, not commissioned...

Seems strange, you supposedly married to a cop and don't know this...

Once again.. You have absolutely NO FACTS to support anything you claim..

Did you admit to me that you had never actually worked as a commissioned LEO for any police department, but claimed that you had been an MP when you were supposedly in the service, OR am I lying and that conversation never happened???

You have absolutely NO FACTS to support your claim..

Please, share with the group how you established your “bona fides”? By tricking everyone on here into believing that you had worked in law enforcement?

Here is the question you so cowardly avoid at all costs:

Did you admit to me that you had never actually worked as a commissioned LEO for any police department, but claimed that you had been an MP when you were supposedly in the service, OR am I lying and that conversation never happened???

It is one or the other! Why won’t you just put an end to this by answering it? You refuse to answer it because you know that your credibility is done for regardless of which one you say is true — that is the FACT you are so desperately trying to avoid!

ABC News Broadcasts Fake Syria Bombing Video That's Actually From a Kentucky Military Show in 2017
https://gizmodo.com/abc-news-broadcasts-fake-syria-bombing-video-thats-actu-1839028685

THIS is the media outlets that Democrats support and defend???

MIND-BOGGLING...

When all is said and done, it's virtually GUARANTEED that President Trump will remain in office..

This is the consensus of Weigantia...

So, no matter what.. Ya'all still lose.. :D

Nope, that's not what I said.. That's what you heard, but you have well established that you only hear what you WANT to hear, not what was said..

Funny that you cannot defend the charges being made against Trump, so you just attack the process for holding him accountable.

There ARE no charges being made against President Trump.. THAT's the point.

All you have is 3rd person HEARSAY with not a single solitary FACT to support the bullshit claims..

And, for the record, it's not ME attacking the process..

It's Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Jerrold Nadler attacking the process...

I simply point out the facts of their quotes..

You want to bitch about that, bitch to them..

Other than your countless posts claiming only Trump supporters are “patriotic” and anyone who disagrees with you is an “America hater”!

Funny that you cannot defend the charges being made against Trump, so you just attack the process for holding him accountable.

That is a factual statement..

Mueller exonerated President Trump on Russia Collusion and left the question of Obstruction to AG Barr..

AG Barr exonerated President Trump on Obstruction..

So PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS EXONERATED ON EVERYTHING is a factual statement..

Given that your FACTS have no basis in truth or that you believe your opinion concerning someone else’s credibility carries any weight after you confessed to lying about having worked as a commissioned law enforcement officer on this site is nothing short of hysterical!

And, once again, the cockholster has absolutely NO FACTS to support any of his claims..

My LEO and Military bona fides were well established long before you made this forum a hellhole of hate and bigotry..

Once again.. Just the FACTS...

President Trump was exonerated on EVERYTHING

So you are a Democrat now?

Given these FACTS I think it's cute that you believe you have even a SHRED of credibility here

Given that your FACTS have no basis in truth or that you believe your opinion concerning someone else’s credibility carries any weight after you confessed to lying about having worked as a commissioned law enforcement officer on this site is nothing short of hysterical!

There are no articles of impeachment..

Democrats don't have any because they don't have any facts..

Trump has abused his position in an attempt to get foreign countries to dig up dirt on his political opponents to help him get re-elected.

Not factually accurate..

He is a compromised foreign asset who has been selling our government to the highest bidders

Not a single solitary fact to support the claim..

He has obstructed justice countless times in his attempt to hinder investigations into his corruption.

The AG has already exonerated President Trump on those baseless and factless claims..

He was the un-indicted co-conspirator in the criminal case that landed his former personal attorney in prison.

Not a single solitary fact to support..

I hope you stretch before attempting the mental gymnastics necessary to convince yourself that Trump and Clinton are identical cases!

They are identical cases.. GOP overreached and tried to impeach when they had no relevant Democrat support even though the GOP DID have facts to support the impeachment .. The GOP gambled and lost.. Big time..

This time around, it's the Dims who are overreaching and trying to push a faux impeachment coup with no facts to support and no GOP support..

And the Dims will pay the price for totally ignoring everything except their hysterical Trump/America hatred...

And Dims will

What are Democrats going to have to show for their efforts come Nov 2020???

2 failed coups and not a damn thing to help the American middle class..

President Trump is GUARANTEED re-election...

Now that it's a GOP POTUS, I am sure Biden feels the EXACT opposite...

It is comical how you keep trying to focus only on the act of impeaching the President while ignoring what the articles of impeachment contained/will contain.

Clinton lied about sexual relations with his mistress.

Trump has abused his position in an attempt to get foreign countries to dig up dirt on his political opponents to help him get re-elected. He is a compromised foreign asset who has been selling our government to the highest bidders. He has obstructed justice countless times in his attempt to hinder investigations into his corruption. He was the un-indicted co-conspirator in the criminal case that landed his former personal attorney in prison.

I hope you stretch before attempting the mental gymnastics necessary to convince yourself that Trump and Clinton are identical cases!

Yea.. But you ALSO "expected" that President Trump would be frog-marched from the Oval Office after Mueller turned in his report..

And how did it turn out???

President Trump was exonerated on EVERYTHING and ya'all had nothing but yer dicks in yer hand.. : D

Given these FACTS I think it's cute that you believe you have even a SHRED of credibility here.. :D

Democrats tell a bullshit lie often enough, they actually begin to believe it..

Of course, you have no FACTS to support your claims.. As usual..

But the fact is, impeachment is THE most divisive thing that can happen to this country..

FACT...

The Democrats are pushing an illegitimate impeachment based on NOTHING but hearsay and "anonymous" claims..

FACT...

Such a faux impeachment is exactly the kind of divisive act that Putin's LOVES to see....

Ergo, anyone who supports this faux illegitimate impeachment (By Joe Biden's OWN standards) is a traitor to this country...

SO, yes.. ANYONE who DOESN'T support this faux impeachment is a patriot...

Has nothing to do with agreement with me or not..

Has everything to do with supporting and loving this country (Me) and hating this country and trying to divide this country (Trump/America haters)..

As I said.. Simple..

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in every country." -- Herman Göring at the Nuremberg trials

The former head of the SDNY being under criminal investigation is a first... and you can only guess at how incriminating the evidence they already have must be if Barr was not able to make it go away.

And you people wonder why Democrats and their news media lap dogs are held in such contempt by patriotic Americans..

:eyeroll:

And remind the few...
When ill of us they speak...
That we are all that stands between...
The monsters and the weak...

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13839e8d10b9303c8d9aee50576e15b15f4844be91d15073a21097a85b780c50.jpg

No..The "scandals" have been bullshit and widely the construct of Trump America haters..

The Russia Collusion delusion??

Remember that???

The Steele dossier?? Remember that???

All the "scandals" you refer to is nothing but hate and bigotry from Left Wingers and Never Trumpers with any real factual basis whatsoever....

As for "quaint"??? It's funny how Obama hasn't spoken up to defend Joe Biden's extortion and quid pro quo in Ukraine..

It's funny how Hunter Biden is in hiding in a non-extradition country...

So much for the "quaint" Biden scandals, eh??

Biden is just as corrupt as ya'all claim Trump is.. Biden just has better PR and a large gullible audience..

What are Democrats afraid of that they won't be transparent about their action???

Why are Dems afraid to let the FACTS be known???

When it's a DEM who is POTUS, ya'all don't give a single lick about transparency...

Once again, it's the -D/-R that is at the heart of every thing ya'all say, think and do...

NEN of course...

Oh Nancy had evidence all right..

She had evidence that the soon to be released Horowitz report was going to be DEVASTATING and DECIMATING to the Democrat Party even more than the Mueller report was..

THAT was the "evidence" that propelled Nancy to take action..

“It’s not like I’m on agriculture,” Gaetz said. “What are the Democrats so afraid of?”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republican-rep-matt-gaetz-kicked-out-of-impeachment-inquiry-hearing

Yes... What ARE Democrats afraid of???

Seems that Democrats are afraid the ACTUAL facts will come out..

Why would that frighten Democrats so much???

Oh puulleeesseee...

President Trump's family has been dragged thru scandal after scandal and no one here shed any tears..

Hunter is an adult and so is Joe Biden. He AND JOE had to have known that the Ukrainians don't give $50,000 a month pay to the VP's kid who has NO EXPERIENCE in the region or the type of business it was, unless they are paying for access...

Joe and Hunter are not fools.. They knew that the Ukrainians were buying access and they went right along with it..

Spare me the old "Oh the poor poor Bidens" innocence routine.... It stinks as much as the original quid pro quo routine stunk...

The fact is Biden felt that a partisan impeachment push was unfair and illegitimate when it was a Democrat POTUS being impeached..

Now that it's a GOP POTUS, I am sure Biden feels the EXACT opposite...

Thereby proving beyond all doubt that it's ONLY the -D/-R that matters..

If Democrats want to convince people that this is NOT a coup, they need to open up the hearings to transparency and give President Trump every courtesy that the GOP House extended to President Clinton...

But Democrats won't do that because they KNOW it will expose their entire coup...

And here we are...

JL

OK< so you are saying that it will be highly unlikely that Democrats can muster any relevant bi-partisan support..

Assuming you are factually accurate (which you are) would you then view the Democrat's impeachment that is solely partisan as legitimate and fair??

I am just trying to see if ya'all agree with Biden or not..

It won't kill ya!!! :D

Agreed..

However, the levels of polarized partisanship right now are pretty extreme, to the point where there's no telling whether any Congress critters are left on either side who will do what's right regardless of the cost to their party.

OK.. I'll ask the same question of you that I asked of Liz...

Would a Democrat impeachment that has no relevant bipartisan support (as it is defined above) be, in your eyes, fair and legitimate??

Joe Biden says it wouldn't..

What do you say??

And yet, I HAVE all the facts.. :D Like Biden's quotes. :D

I predict there will be enough Republicans who care about the fundamentals of America and who will support the hopefully many articles of impeachment … if enough Republican voters do the same.

But that's not the question I asked you..

Would you view the Democrats' attempt at impeachment as legitimate if it was SOLELY Democrats with no relevant GOP support??

Joe Biden says that such an impeachment would unfair and illegitimate..

I am simply asking if you agree with Biden or not..

There's nothing wrong with the quotes themselves. However, the levels of polarized partisanship right now are pretty extreme, to the point where there's no telling whether any Congress critters are left on either side who will do what's right regardless of the cost to their party.

I predict there will be enough Republicans who care about the fundamentals of America and who will support the hopefully many articles of impeachment … if enough Republican voters do the same.

Now, I know that's not saying much for congressional Republicans and their leadership but, I'll take what I can get.

I also resent being called an America hater because I am the opposite.

I am soon finished with this entire site because you keep spreading lies about Biden and because of unwarranted cheap shots in the space above the comments.

I can't and won't be any part of that.

So you would agree with Joe Biden that, if Democrats don't get ANY relevant bipartisan support, that their impeachment is unfair and illegitimate??

You would agree with that??

Your quotes of Biden on impeachment are worthy of repetition here.

Thank you.. I completely agree with you.. Funny how they seem to shut people up, eh? :D

In most cases of impeachment, giving the president the benefit of the doubt is quite reasonable. I would even say that for the case of Trump. Except for the fact that this president has essentially indicted himself with his almost daily proclamations.

According to the SPIN of the Trump haters, I would agree...

But their all of their spin is far FAR from the facts..

So, go ahead and quote Biden's wise words.

You can COUNT on it.. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tccx-5OTK0

A "horrific" Turkish attack on Syrian Kurd civilians in Syria!!

OH MY GODS!!!!! THE INHUMANITY!! THE HORROR!!!! PRESIDENT TRUMP IS HITLER!!!! OH MY GODS!!!!

Except, of course, it WASN'T a Turkish attack on Syrian Kurd civilians..

It was a military gun show at Knob Creek in West Point,
Kentucky...

You people are completely and utterly WHACKED, ya know that??? :eyeroll:

I must be … well, I am!

I think everyone knows what to replace that with … :)

Your quotes of Biden on impeachment are worthy of repetition here.

In most cases of impeachment, giving the president the benefit of the doubt is quite reasonable. I would even say that for the case of Trump. Except for the fact that this president has essentially indicted himself with his almost daily proclamations.

Once again, not surprisingly, context matters.

Including president Trump's constant lies about the actions of his potential running mate and former vice president.

Trump is not going to railroad Biden - either one - because the Biden name stands for integrity and honesty.

So, go ahead and quote Biden's wise words. God know, this place could use a Biden quote, ad Bidenitum, every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

No matter what Trump does, ya'all attack him.

There was a PERFECT example of this recently..

President Trump was going to strike at Iran in retaliation for some such incident.

Many here demonized and attacked President Trump for being aggressive, being a war monger etc etc etc..

Then President Trump changed his mind and THEN many here attacked him for being a pussy and not doing ANYTHING to Iran..

With Trump/America haters, no matter WHAT Trump does, ya'all are going to attack him and demonize him.

So, I have to ask.. WHY would ya'all think you have ANY credibility with your attacks and such??

Because it's ALL solely and completely based on the FACT that ya'all can't accept that President Trump is the freely, fairly, legally, democratically and Constitutionally elected President Of The United States..

Actually I gave no opinion on President Trump''s Syria decision.

I simply commented on ya'all blatant hypocrisy..

If President had announced he was keeping troops in the Syria TOP, ya'all would have attacked and demonized him for THAT.

No matter what Trump does, ya'all attack him. It

No... In Nixon's case, there were legitimate crimes committed by Nixon and staff..

In Clinton's, he was more than halfway thru his second term..

Plus, in BOTH of your examples, there was NOTHING like the hysterical screams of impeachment even BEFORE Clinton & Nixon took office..

Let's face reality.. Hysterical Trump/America haters wanted to impeach Donald Trump on 10 Nov 2016..

They just shopped around for a reason later..

"I really hate her..
I'll think of a reason later"
-Lee Ann Womack

. We did accept the results.

Moose poop!!!! Moose poop!!! Pure unadulterated MOOSE POOP!!!

You seem to be the one who is denying that our constitution itself provides the means for removing a duly elected president who has engaged in criminal activity.

Except you have NO FACTS to support the claim..

All you have is hysterical 3rd person hearsay from a girl who Democrats are DESPERATE to keep hidden..

Or are you saying our constitution is wrong itself for allowing this to be done?

I am saying that the way Democrats are going about it is wrong and unconstitutional..

The Constitution says that it's the **HOUSE** who process impeachment proceedings..

It DOESN'T say, Only the majority Party in the House can process impeachments

Hay.. Don't argue with me..

"In the case of an impeachment, fair means bipartisan … Once the election is held, our leaders hold office until the next election. It is simply antithetical to our constitutional democracy to use impeachment to overturn an election on partisan grounds. It violates the independence of the presidency and it usurps the people’s voice."

"It is our constitutional duty to give the president the benefit of the doubt on the facts"

Argue with Joe Biden...

No, I presume he (Michale) is mot saying that.

The question is, Who gets to define "criminal activity"??

If "criminal actitity" is seeking "dirt" with which to besmirch your opponent, then thare's really nothing in politics that's NOT "criminal activity", right?

"You are attacking and demonizing and ridiculing President Trump for pulling Americans out of a war torn theater and out of a war on foreign soil..

Get that???

Ya'all WANT the US to remain in a war zone!!?? Ya'all WANT more Americans to die fighting a war over there.."

FUNNY. Now YOU are the one cheering on Assad and the Russians taking over ALL of Syria. Assad's troops with Russian backing just moved back into the Kurdish area left behind by American troops.

Trump just DESTROYED the past FIVE years of American policy and military action.

Get that???

"The hysterical NeverTrumpers, the Democrats and the Trump/America haters refusal to accept the results of the 2016 election...

That's it.. That is what all else flows from..

Which is rather ironic when ya think about it.."

Actually it's not. We did accept the results. You seem to be the one who is denying that our constitution itself provides the means for removing a duly elected president who has engaged in criminal activity.

Or are you saying our constitution is wrong itself for allowing this to be done?

"In 2019, it is the Democratic Party and its allies in the media and the Deep State that have violated morality, law and decency to oppress the will of the American people by seeking to overturn a free election and overthrow a legitimate president."

So when Nixon and Clinton were impeached, I guess those were also instances of Overturning free elections and legitimate presidents too? Wouldn't you agree?

"Secondhand reports are nothing short of hearsay, and are not admissible in court."

"So what? This isn't the end of the investigation, but the beginning. There is plenty of time for Congress to interview those directly involved and find out exactly what they have to say. The whistleblower's report is not a draft for articles of impeachment, it is instead a roadmap for where the investigation should go, and nothing more. Nobody's going to rely on the whistleblower's word when it's easy to question those directly involved under oath. So what if the whistleblower's report isn't admissible in court? All the evidence gathered as a result of this report will be, so the point is a ridiculous one to even try to make."

THIS is the one I meant to quote rather than the other one..

My mistake..

"The whistleblower had only secondhand knowledge of what went on."

"So what? The whistleblower is employed by the intelligence service, and thus it is part of his or her job to collect reports, sift through them, and determine what is likely true and what isn't. That's their job. The whistleblower heard from at least a half-dozen sources with firsthand knowledge what went on, and he or she reported it, as required by law. The whistleblower's report of the call readout is almost identical to the actual readout the White House released, so the only available evidence so far indicates that the whistleblower got the details exactly right."

You wrote this over 2 weeks ago...

And we STILL haven't heard any relevant facts from this "whistle blower" or any other relevant facts for that matter..

EVERYTHING is still hearsay.. Third person hearsay..

Do you still believe "SO WHAT??" Or do you acknowledge that "due process" is NOT supposed to work this way..

You may say, "Well, it's like a grand jury.. Everything done in secret.."

Yes, but a GRAND JURY deals in FACTS... Not third person hearsay.. If a DA went to a grand jury with nothing but third person hearsay, they would be laughed out of the state...

Why are Democrats so afraid to give President Trump all the benefits and privileges that the Republican House gave President Clinton??

Why are Democrats so afraid of the FACTS getting out??

Because Democrats know that the FACTS will simply expose this faux impeachment for what it is..

A coup...

That's it.. That is what all else flows from..

Which is rather ironic when ya think about it..

Ironic that it was HILLARY and the DEMOCRATS who claimed during the election that it would be DONALD TRUMP who would not accept the results..

Howz THAT for irony, eh? :D

In 2019, it is the Democratic Party and its allies in the media and the Deep State that have violated morality, law and decency to oppress the will of the American people by seeking to overturn a free election and overthrow a legitimate president.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/10/14/trump_defends_due_process_from_congressional_usurpation_141476.html

It's amazing how the actions of the Democrat Party today mirrors the actions of the "bad guys" in the run-up to the US declaration of sovereignty from the UK....

"Fascinating"
-Commander Spock

It ALL can be distilled down to one single cause..

The hysterical NeverTrumpers, the Democrats and the Trump/America haters refusal to accept the results of the 2016 election...

That's it.. That is what all else flows from..

The simple yet psychotic refusal of the NeverTrumpers, the Democrats and the Trump/America haters to accept the results of a free, fair, legal, democratic and Constitutional election that did not go their way..

Future historians will point to this event, this refusal to accept the results as one of the largest, if not the ONLY turning point in this country's descent into partisan madness and zealotry...

What about it, Weigantians..

Don't ya'all favor complete and utter transparency??

Apparently NOT under the influence of HHPTDS..

You are attacking and demonizing and ridiculing President Trump for pulling Americans out of a war torn theater and out of a war on foreign soil..

Get that???

Ya'all WANT the US to remain in a war zone!!?? Ya'all WANT more Americans to die fighting a war over there..

YA'ALL!!

People who whined and cried and stamped your feet over Bush's war..

Ya'all are now condemning a President for taking Americans OUT of a war..

Who would have EVER thunked it..

Weigantia-2019 is a PRO WAR forum....

If that doesn't make ya'all see how far gone ya'all are with HHPTDS..

Nothing will..

Discussions in which those who common ground is easy to accomplish..

Here is one..

3 reasons to investigate the US Navy UFO incidents
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/465475-3-reasons-to-investigate-the-us-navy-ufo-incidents

Comments??

CIA/FBI-backed impeachment could also be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If Donald Trump thinks he’s going to be jailed upon leaving office, he’ll sooner or later figure out that his only real move is to start acting like the “dictator” MSNBC and CNN keep insisting he is. Why give up the White House and wait to be arrested, when he still has theoretical authority to send Special Forces troops rappelling through the windows of every last Russiagate/Ukrainegate leaker? That would be the endgame in a third world country, and it’s where we’re headed, unless someone calls off this craziness. Welcome to the Permanent Power Struggle.

Never in a million years.. :^/

That’s all over, in the Trump era.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup

Once again, it's like CW said..

The hysteria with which Democrats pursue their coup is directly inversely proportional to the confidence that Democrats have in winning at the ballot box..

Apparently, Democrats are scared to death of facing President Trump at the ballot box..

DOH!!!! OK OK, have fun with that typo.. :^/

Because Republicans are NOT banana republic type of leaders..

Was there ever talk by Republicans of jailing Holder and other Odumbo minions when THEY ignored subpoenas??

Of course not.

Because Republicans are banana republic type of leaders..

Well, hell.. who can face up to THAT kind of clout! hehehe

I believed that the seriousness of the counterintelligence threat Trump posed would cause the DOJ to re-examine its policy that sitting presidents could not be indicted on federal charges. I don’t think that anyone believed the Attorney General would insist that the policy be read that not only could a sitting president not be indicted on criminal charges while in office, they could not be directly investigated for criminal activities. This is why Mueller’s report only found Trump acting in questionable ways when it was investigating others around him for crimes. This also explains why the Mueller report did not review Trump’s tax returns or cover any counter-intelligence aspects in its findings — major red flags that went ignored!

Since he won the Republican nomination, the national press has completely ignored the most blatantly obvious truth about Trump — he has been what our intelligence agencies define as a “compromised asset” from the very start!

Trump being compromised is not up for debate. That is because to be “compromised” does not mean that Trump IS being blackmailed to assist Russia, it only means that Trump’s dishonesty is so obvious that we know he could easily be blackmailed. Our government does not trust “compromised” assets. Therefore, if you could be blackmailed; it is assumed that you have been blackmailed!

When Trump parroted Putin’s views of our NATO allies; when the only input Trump had in creating the GOP’s platform was to change it to say we would NOT help stop Russian interference and aggression in Ukraine; when Trump sided with Putin and discredited our own intelligence agencies findings that Russia interfered in the 2016 elections... these are all clearly actions you would expect someone considered a “compromised asset” to commit! Yet, journalists did not make the connection for their audience for fear of being accused as being “biased” in their reporting. Personally, I find their negligence to be much more offensive than if they were “biased”.

Trump is the counter-intelligence nightmare that we never believed could actually exist outside of worst-case scenarios. Worst of all, there were no legal options available to our intelligence agencies to deal with such a threat. The Electoral College was designed, in part, to prevent the election of unfit candidates — but it clearly failed to function as it was intended.

Trump is compromised. He should never have been allowed to become president. Trump’s actions following his conversations with Putin and Erdogan demonstrate the harm having a compromised president can have on our foreign policies!

Three years later and Trump still has to scream about Hillary to keep his people from looking too closely at his criminal actions!

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/29/20889646/hillary-clinton-emails-state-department-investigation-trump-administration

But the polls have already clearly shown that most citizens would love to get Big Money out of our politics! You have cited that fact countless times on here. So why would they need to sign up with you when the polls clearly show that the demand already exists?

You are literally asking people to promise to throw away their votes until a candidate running in their district signs up with OneDemand. If someone signed up when you first introduced this genius plan, that means they have voted for themselves for how many years, now? Meanwhile, you are not seeking candidates to sign up, because you believe that will happen on its own.

Seriously? Again, why would anyone need to sign up with you other than to increase the likelihood that their ID gets stolen?

(Side note of legal importance to you: your site does not clearly state who will be granted access to the personal information you are requesting from interested citizens. You might want to get on that prior to anyone signing up with the group.)

So you think former National Security Advisor General Flynn is a “Yahoo!”?

Furthermore, Hillary was cleared of all criminal charges as the FBI determined her actions did not rise to the level that would justify charges being filed.

YOUR'S is the Democrat Congress ACTUALLY CONSIDERING doing it in real live..

The Democrats are looking to jail individuals that are obstructing justice by ignoring subpoenas ordering them to testify before Congress.

Leave it to the guy who lies about his work in law enforcement to make such a ridiculous comparison!

Oh.... SNAP...

How ANYONE could have supported Hillary Clinton simply boggles the mind..

Strange how this McGowan bimbo rips into Hillary right when Hillary is contemplating another POTUS run...

:D

Of course, if the predictive power of Matt groening is again prescient, Donald will serve an extra term and a half (an all trump supreme court will interpret a divine exception the 22nd amendment), and he will be succeeded in 2030 by lisa Simpson.

I am happy with the predictive power of the majority of Weigantians who have expressed an opinion...

President Trump will be elected for 4 more years..

After that?? Ample precedent exist for a third term.. :D

Yea.. The problem with you is that you MORONS have been predicting that same failure for YEARS!!

And you have ALWAYS been WRONG... ALWAYS..

Remember all your predictions during yer Russia Collusion delusion phase??

BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You people have **ALWAYS** been wrong, yet you think you have a SHRED of credibility.. :D

BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No..

"It's funny cause it's true"
-Homer Simpson

Moron.

Says the moron who whined and screamed with the "LOCK HER UP" mantra...

Incidentally, that was just a bunch of yahoos blowing off steam at a rally..

YOUR'S is the Democrat Congress ACTUALLY CONSIDERING doing it in real live..

Funny how you MORONs complained about a bunch of yahoos blowing off steam, but are silent when CONGRESS morons actually seriously consider it..

MORON..

[28] 'Jailing opposition Party members..
That's what dictators in banana republics do...'

Three words..."LOCK HER UP"

Moron.

LL&P

That's what dictators in banana republics do...

Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) revealed in a new interview that House Democrats have discussed jailing allies of the president who do not comply with congressional subpoenas, an escalation of the House's efforts to force White House compliance with an impeachment inquiry.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/465551-tlaib-says-democrats-have-discussed-detaining-white-house-officials-who-dont

And so the 2nd US Civil War begins..

As I said.

The majority of Weigantians (who have expressed an opinion on the subject) feel the same way... :D

We won't know if Fonda or anyone else will want to participate or what changes they might propose until they are informed aboot it.

So why haven’t you attempted to contact her? How many political candidates have decided to join up with OneDemand? If no candidates are on board with you, what motivation would anyone have for signing up? YOU are why OneDemand is a failure! Your unwillingness to do any actual work to promote your game-changing political movement is why no one knows of it.

And you might want to become an actual non-profit prior to lining up any donors or volunteers, you know, so you aren’t running an illegal organization.

I'm record here presaging Trump's eventual resignation and re-entry into obscurity. I still believe he will throw his hands up, blame everyone else for his latest own goal, and disappearing, secure in the knowledge that America somehow let him down...

Pence would tickle Trump's nuts with a feather to get a chance at the pardon> president> crusader for god- route the oval office-

The GOP hierarchy must be wondering when it's time to cut their losses?

The 'Trumpian era' will be over as quickly as it started. Gone will be the pyretic posturing, the boasting baffoonery and the tyrannical twutterances...And my main source of amusement, truth be told.

:)

LL&P

If Fonda was protesting big money in our political process and informing citizens aboot One Demand so citizens could do something aboot it that would be impressive.

It truly would have been impressive, because it would mean that YOU had finally gotten off of your butt and had worked on making OneDemand into an actual non-profit that had a mission people could get behind. Fonda is constantly being hit up by charities and social justice groups hoping to score an endorsement from her, so you actually scoring one from her would mean that you had completely revamped how OneDemand worked.

If she endorsed OneDemand as you present it on that website you spend so much of your day ignoring, it would completely destroy the reputation of Jane Fonda — she would lose all credibility.

Do you truly hate Jane that much?

Great post!

I agree with your assessment of the Watergate prosecutors letter. The other thing that stood out for me was that they were claiming that the prima facie evidence was enough to remove Trump from office — basically stating that Trump has provided us all the rope needed for him to hang himself with.

With the court’s rulings making the likelihood that his tax returns will be made public all but assured before the 2020 election, now it comes down to how quickly will Trump try to get Pence to give him a Stay-out-of-jail Pardon before resigning to a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the US.

If Trump makes receiving a pardon a stipulation to his stepping down, could that invalidate the pardon? My memory of Ford pardoning Nixon is fuzzy, as I was 3, but I have grown up hearing it was done in the hopes of helping America put that ugly partisan-time behind us and allow the country to heal. Even at that young age, I called “caa-caa-doodie”on that excuse! It was done to lessen the damage to the GOP for having allowed the corruption to thrive as long as it did.

I am sorry, but in today’s socioeconomic climate where the wealthy enjoy a very different justice system than the average American does, pardoning Trump would be the worst way to try to “heal America”! It would be the ultimate “affluenza” case to end all cases; and it would be the final straw for those who think the rich can buy their way out of any jam to avoid being held accountable. I would guess you would see wide spread rioting, and I cannot say that it wouldn’t be warranted!

Folks, it realy does boil down to this, the most salient point...'unless disproved by any contrary evidence that the president may choose to offer.'
It can't be clearer, it's time for Trump and his merry band to either shit or get off the pot.
Simple denial, bluster and howls of persecution aren't cutting it for the majority of people who have even a passing acquaintance with the issues. There's simply too much greasy behaviour to explain away to simply say, "it's not me it's them".

We all know what's coming next...Giuliani will start in with, "the still crooked FBI deep-state were spying on me and your president"
Then enter Trump with a few dangles, "I've been hearing people saying the deep-state were spy on my lawyer, maybe they were, maybe they were trying to bring him down, to get to me...maybe, I dunno."
Then the Hannity's of the world climb out of Beech-bark, "This tonight coming from sources close to the president (That's president Baron, for those of you still wondering who these 'sources' are) officials are now looking into widespread partisanship within the FBI, DOJ and everyone involved in trying to oust president Trump"

A coup d'état, my left bollock.

I think now that old Pat Robertson seems to be looking for the door, Trump is on the thinnest of ice.

This is Judeo-Christian code for 'time to hitch our ride to another wagon, fellow followers'..."

“To say he is an ally of America is nonsense. He is in it for himself. The president that allowed [Jamal] Khashoggi to be cut in pieces without repercussions whatsoever is now allowing the Christians and the Kurds to be massacred by the Turks,” Robertson added. “I believe and I want to say this with great salinity, the president of the United States is losing the mandate of Heaven if he permits this to happen.”

After years of suffering Pat's drivelling nonsense, I was floored by this throat punch of reality for it's clarity and straightforwardness, neither of which I usually ascribe to the religious types. If any one thing rang Trump's bell this week, this would be it. You can bet your last shekel this statement caught every conservative ear, for without the Evilgelicals, Trump couldn't get elected shop steward at a chocolate fire-guard factory.

Go Pat Go.

Beto was MDDOTW this week and the last. He's sacrificing sane and doable initiatives for pie in the sky promises no one really thinks he would keep, much less, get done. In doing so, Beto's utterances can be used almost verbatim for GOP scare adds and robo-calling throughout rural America.

Beto O'Rourke, the Democrats even ganglier version of 'Jonah Ryan', should just gracefully lurch aside to make way for the adults in the race.

LL&P

Trooper Peter Stephan
Indiana State Police, Indiana
End of Watch: Friday, October 11, 2019

And remind the few..
When ill of us they speak..
That we are all that stands between..
The monsters and the weak..

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I am scratching my head about why the Republicans are vociferously defending the Kurds. Certainly this is disastrous in all the ways that you and the Republicans cite. But IMO this is no more disastrous than being Putin's puppet. Nor in handing over nuclear technology to the Saudis - after they chopped to tiny bits a resident of the United States. And the long list of other decisions the repercussions of which we'll be 'cleaning up' for decades.

Is it possible that the Republicans are searching for a justification to impeach Trump OTHER THAN the Ukraine quid pro quo? After all, Ukraine is too close (both geographically and politically) to Russia. If the Republican Senators join with the Democrats to remove Trump from office for Ukraine, they will provide an implicit seal of approval to the entire Mueller report. And the Trumpsters have been digesting FOX talking points for 2 1/2 years, so the Republicans can't reverse course and betray the beliefs of their voting base.

Sadly, Republican Senators have stomached Trump's shredding of the U S Constitution in silence. Instead they may remove Trump from office for hanging out to dry a small band of feisty 'freedom fighters' in Syria.

And remind the few..
When ill of us they speak..
That we are all that stands between..
The monsters and the weak..

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How many days until Rudy's home and office are raided by the Feds?

A week...tops! It’ll be the day they serve him with his own arrest warrant.

I hope they search his car, too. Rudy just seems like the type of person who keeps everything on the dashboard and front seat of his car. He claims to know exactly where everything is and has a filing system that only makes sense to him. I see him driving an older Crown Vic or TownCar (or hearse) that he can barely see over the steering wheel when he drives it, his backseat filled with Donald’s discarded McDonalds bags and cups and an old whiteboard he uses to brainstorm conspiracy theories he’ll pitch to Trump, and jammed under the passenger seat is an evidence bag with the missing murder weapon from a case he was prosecuting that has been there for the past 30 years.