Fine by me. On the new thread, I presume.

Dear God, did Putin write this? That a person who lies about being a cop and an MP in the military also supports the Coward-and-Chief’s decision to do the bidding of Russia (and do everything in his power to allow it to take over Ukraine) shouldn’t surprise anyone here — but is still incredibly pathetic!

The majority of the money that Trump diverted from military building projects to go build his wall was earmarked for projects in countries bordering Russia to help secure them from Russian attacks.

We know that he has kept the transcripts from his conversations with Putin secret from our government agencies whose job it is to keep records of these conversations. We know that he kowtows to anything Putin says. We know that he is grateful to Russia for interfering in the 2016 election and getting him in the White House.

But working so hard to get the sanctions against Russia removed should make even his most loyal cult members question where Trump’s true loyalties reside!

I was just getting ready to respond to this when the missus called me for dinner..

Mind if we pick it up in the AM??

The Constitution is on Congress's side. All the powers granted by the people to the federal government are given explicitly to Congress. Aside from the veto, the president merely has the power to do what Congress tells him. (Or her, eventually.)

Unfortunately, Congress isn't on its own side, and has given over almost all the decisions to the executive branch. Some it gives to professional civil servants, but too much it gives to the president. The presidency was too imperial four years ago, and it will be too imperial eight years from now.

The Constitution has nothing to say about whether opposition research is a "thing of value" in the context of a political campaign, nor about whether any such thing of value may be solicited from a foreign entity. Rather, it gives Congress the power "to make all laws necessary and proper to carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and any other power given by this Constitution to the United States or any officer thereof." (Quoted from memory. Probably not quite exact, but that's the gist. It's in Article I section 8 with the list of powers expressly granted.)

The "unitary executive" nonsense is absolutely unsupported by anything in the actual document.

It's funny how Mitt Romney's word is shit..

Right up to the point that he says what ya'all want to hear.. :D

Pure unadulterated hypocrisy..

It's a Democrat defining characteristic..

"This President’s decision to abandon our Kurdish allies in Northern Syria is ultimately a victory for Assad, Russia, Iran, and ISIS. The Administration must immediately reconsider withdrawing the few remaining U.S. troops who are playing a vital peacekeeping role."

Turks are bombing - thanks to Blotus.

Kick: Yep. Question is will they comply and if they don't what then? So we'll see.

Of course, they won't comply..

It's a coup...

Why should ANYONE comply???

Are you really THAT stoopid???

I mean, I know yer stoopid..

Are you really THAT stoopid??

You never MAKE any relevant point..

And you never have ANY facts to support the irrelevant points you try to make..

Of course the article is written by Brandon Weichert, the same guy that penned:

Of course, you never have a link to support your claims..

Why is that??

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2019-10-07.eec_engel_schiff_to_vought-_omb_re_subpoena.pdf

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2019-10-07.eec_engel_schiff_to_esper-dod_re_subpoena.pdf

Of course the article is written by Brandon Weichert, the same guy that penned:

A Deep Cleansing of the Deep State Is Coming

In which he spends a good part of his time preferring Russian intelligence to our own. For Trump.

President Trump is putting America first..

Yeah, and just how does abandoning the Kurds accomplish this? Huh?

Jesus, Blathy.. You have to be SPOON fed??

Is your mind so closed and locked by Party slavery, you cannot have a SINGLE independent thought??

My comments **ALWAYS** have links associated with them.. It's not my fault you are too stoopid and brain dead to find them..

Looking at comment #137, it's YOU who never link to yer bullshit..

Or maybe we should ask the Kurds just how loyal Trump is to our allies and friends. I'd bet they'd have a few choice words for him right now..

Were they as "choice" as the words DEMOCRATS had for Kurds before Dumbocrats learned they could use the Kurds as a bludgeon to beat Trump over the head with??

President Trump is putting America first..

I know, I know.. You are used to putting Americans LAST...

That's why you are all for open borders and free health care for illegal immigrant criminals..

So what's your link for this stuff - Russia? Sounds and reads a lot like propaganda to me.

Or maybe we should ask the Kurds just how loyal Trump is to our allies and friends. I'd bet they'd have a few choice words for him right now..

HOW DO YOU FRIGHTEN TODAY'S GENERATION??

Put them in a locked room with a rotary phone, an analog watch, a TV with no remote (add rabbit ears for extra fun)

And leave directions for all of the afore, written in cursive.

:D

Fair enough... I am willing to do as you ask on a trial basis. And it's a BIG ask because I had another 2 dozen or so comments lined up.. :D

I can't let my fans down, eh? :D

But I'll let you in on a little secret.. My "kryptonite" as it were...

Distract me with a couple of responses to my comments. Once we're I am in debate mode rather than announce mode, the comment count will dwindle considerably... :D My back and forth with JL yesterday supports the claim..

I like your logical and rational mind. You, more or less (more than everyone else, less than me.. :D) say what you actually think, regardless of whether it's politically popular or not..

You are only 1 of 4 people who could actually pull it off.. :D

Wanna give it a shot??? Pick any 2 comments and blast away.. I promise you, when it comes to politics, I have a very thick skin.. :D

I'll give ya'all some time to catch up... :D

And the president must be allowed to conduct matters of state unimpeded by congressional overreach … just as the Constitution envisioned the president doing.

The US Constitution is on the President's side..

The coup plotters are completely and utterly wrong..

It's really THAT simple...

The Democrats claim that Trump attempted to garner a bribe from Ukraine; that he explicitly wanted damaging information on Joe Biden heading into the 2020 presidential campaign in exchange for giving the $400 million (plus the lethal aid) to Ukraine. This does not appear to be the case at all. What’s more, the recently released encrypted text messages between Kurt Volker, Bill Taylor, and Gordon Sondland indicate that the president and his team were less interested in damaging Joe Biden’s presidential campaign than they were in getting to the bottom of potential Ukrainian malfeasance (while using U.S. foreign aid as leverage to get Ukraine to shape up its behavior). And, it should be noted here, the pursuit of corruption is a legitimate function of the U.S. government — and since Donald Trump is the chief executive, he is well within his rights to inquire about potential corruption in foreign countries with the leaders of those countries.

And then we have the FACTS....

Amazing how the two are completely and utterly opposite..

:D

Sondland, who has close ties to the president and his inner circle, explicitly stated that the president did not want “quid quo pro” from their dealings with Ukraine. In other words, the president was not seeking damaging material on Joe Biden from Ukraine’s government in exchange for releasing foreign aid money to Ukraine. Trump’s moves in Ukraine had to do with overall corruption and, more importantly, ensuring American taxpayers were not being bilked in the form of generous foreign aid to a broken government.

I am glad the texts were brought out into the open..

They PROVE President Trump's innocence in the charges by the coup plotters..

Only a biased and non-context and cherry-picked read of the text (IE spin) would make anyone believe that the texts are anything but exculpatory..

Thus, Ukraine’s leaders acted assiduously to secure the protection and loyalty of the U.S. government by coopting influential individuals of America’s political class. Many of these Western elites were powerful members of the Democratic Party. Also, the Democrats have long had close associations with Ukraine’s leaders going back to 1994, when the Clinton administration negotiated an alliance with Ukraine wherein the Ukrainians dismantled the 300 nuclear weapons that the Soviet Union left behind in their country, in exchange for sweetheart foreign aid deals and guarantees of American military protection, should the Russians ever return.
https://spectator.org/trump-knows-ukraine-owns-the-democrats/

It's amazing how THE FACTS paint a completely different picture than the pic that Democrats are painting.. :D

Considering the Democrats' track record against President Trump is a big fat ZERO...

I am disinclined to acquiesce to the Democrats' version of events..

"I am disinclined to acquiesce to your request. That means 'NO'..."
-Captain Barbossa, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN

In other words, Democrats have been WRONG about everything in the past..

Why should anyone believe them now??

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Yea.. That's what I thought... :eyeroll:

Let's see if I can find some Trump supporters and get THEIR thoughts.. :D

Here’s the real shocker: All 10 believe he will be re-elected.

That pretty much mirrors what we have here in Weigantia..

1 Trump support.. Several rational souls.. And a myriad of Trump/America haters...

And the MAJORITY all agrees that President Trump will win re-election.. :D

OUCH.. That's gotta hurt, eh? :D

To be sure, we are in the early innings of what is certain to be a months-long slog. The momentum will shift frequently, and the outcome is unpredictable.

Looks like the claim that ALL Democrat totals for donors is larger than President Trump's is PROVEN to be bullshit..

Once again, I have to ask..

If the FACTS are so damning, why do you Trump/America haters have to LIE to make a point??

Another question that will never be addressed because the answer is so damning to ya'all... :D

Indeed, one way to read the entire episode is that it is a continuation of the scandalous CIA-FBI attempt to block Trump from winning the White House, and then drive him out of office. My guess is that the more we learn about the agent’s connection to Democrats, the less credible he and they will be.

The so-called "whistle blower" has absolution NO CREDIBILITY whatsoever.. She is obviously a Democrat plant..

Which is why Democrats are hiding her and won't let Republicans question her.. Her story won't hold up under scrutiny...

If those were the only problems, impeachment would be a very hard sell. But there are others, too.

This faux impeachment by Democrats is a coup, pure and simple..

A way to try and nullify a free, fair, legal, democratic and Constitutional election that Democrats lost...

Future historians will be none too kind to the Democrats of this era...

Good luck with that. Trump smells blood, and his slashing away could be the death knell of Biden’s campaign, leaving the Dems further divided and possibly damaging the eventual nominee.

Yunno, I am kinda hoping I am wrong and JL & DSWS are right that Joe Biden will be the nominee..

I'll have to vote for Biden, but it would be worth it to see a candidate so mauled and decimated by the FACTS and reality, he'll be lucky to carry his home state... :D

Joe Biden's corruption rivals that of Hillary Clintons'.. And you see how President Trump totally decimated Clinton in the General.. :D

President Trump eats pieces of shit like Biden for breakfast!!

"President Trump eats pieces of shit for breakfast??"

Baaa daaa da... :D

The lack of an obvious quid pro quo in the phone call transcript was the first blow to Pelosi’s plan. Trump never mentioned withholding military aide, and reports say Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky wasn’t even aware of a delay.
https://nypost.com/2019/10/05/goodwin-groundhog-dems-again-left-behind/

It's hilarious that Democrats want to impeach over this...

Colluding with Russia is a FAR worse charge, yet we found out that THAT charge was nothing but hot air from the Democrats..

Now they want to impeach over a PHONE CALL!!??

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Odumbo was caught selling his fealty to Putin in exchange for "space" to wining Odumbo's election..

Ya'all didn't bat an eye..

Joe Biden CONFESSED to quid pro quo and extortion...

Ya'all ignored it completely..

But let President Trump simply ask for a favor from an ally??

Ya'all go apeshit crazy...

This is why it's IMPOSSIBLE for any sane rational patriotic American to take the Dumbocrats seriously..

Because Dumbocrats AREN'T being serious..

They are being laughable...

I want to thank all of the Weigantians that are too SCARED to comment and cede the battlefield to me.. :D

It's nice of ya'all to concede that ya'all have no FACTS to support any rebuttal.. :D

"It would have been wrong for Richard Nixon to have been removed from office based upon a purely partisan vote. No president should be removed from office merely because one party enjoys a commanding lead in either house of the Congress"
-Joe Biden

Amazing, iddn't.. The hypocrisy is simply amazing..

And coming from JOE BIDEN of all people.. I thought ol' Joe was a straight shooter..

He's just another filthy politician.. :^(

Oh how the mighty have fallen..

Hypocrisy upon hypocrisy upon hypocrisy...

"Mr. Speaker, we should be standing here debating the future of Social Security. We should be standing here debating health care. We should be standing here debating education for our children and how we can protect the environment.

Instead, we are participating in a political charade. Republicans want to do what they could not do in an election – defeat Bill Clinton. Well, I have news for you. The American people are watching. Beware the wrath of the American people, Mr. Speaker, beware."
-Rep John Lewis, D-GA

Remember, these aren't MY WORDs... These are DEMOCRAT words...

Funny how the words today are the complete opposite of the words they used when it was a DEMOCRAT facing impeachment..

Anyone who believes this is NOT a -D vs -R issue is delusional...

“The Framers of the Constitution never intended the availability of impeachment as a license for a fishing expedition.”
Rep Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-TX

The hypocrisy is as undeniable as it is palpable..

“Democracy is threatened when a fair legal process is sacrificed to appease the passions of a few … The power to impeach a president should not be casually used to remove a president, overturn an election, simply because we don’t like him or his policies.”
-Mad Maxine Waters

Oh, the irony... OOOOOooooo the irony..... :D

What's the matter, cockholster??? You have no response to these DEMOCRATS who are soooo against impeachment??

None???

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It's amazing how this current faux impeachment coup mirrors the last one.. :D

And the results are likely to be the same, too...

A massive overreach by the Dems resulting in an utter shellacking and decimation in 2020... :D

So, how about it Dims??

Where is your "bipartisan" investigation??

One or two Trump/America haters with a -R after their name doesn't cut it..

But hay... If that's what CH wants.. :D

Democrats were against impeachment before they were for impeachment..

Anyone who thinks this is NOT about the -D or the -R after the President's name is fooling themselves..

Once again.. It's astounding the 180 degree turn that Democrats have done when the POTUS had a -R after their name instead of a -D...

Cockholster, you got awful quiet?? Pussycat got yer tongue??

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Iddn't it funny how Democrats totally and utterly opposed impeachment on CONSTITUTIONAL grounds when it was a Democrat being impeached..

But they are all for such a gross "assassination" of a sitting President when it's a Republican..

The hypocrisy from the Democrat Party is astounding..

That's the Democrat Party. The Assassinate President Trump Party.. :eyeroll:

Looks like Uncle Joe called it dead on ballz accurate..

Too bad he has lost all semblance of civility and decorum..

Hay cockholster..

Isn't it funny that if you change "Republicans" to "Democrats" and change "President Clinton" to "President Trump", this quote of hers is dead on ballz accurate...

Defend the hypocrisy, moron..

You can't, so you'll ignore it.. :eyeroll:

Quotes that you couldn’t bother to cite the person who you claim to be quoting.

Yunno, CH.. Yer right.. I should give the attributes..

I'll repost the quotes again with the proper attributes..

And you will ignore them because you have absolutely NO DEFENSE for their (and your) hypocrisy... :D

Facts to support???

None?? Yea, that's what I thought..

I guess somebody forgot to explain to Benedict Donald that blaming others is more like an admission of conspiracy than a legitimate defense. :)

Gods, you are such a complete and utter Party slave..

Quotes that you couldn’t bother to cite the person who you claim to be quoting... yeah, it’s my fault that you are a pathological liar who cannot defend his own comments.

The fact you think hearsay would invalidate the decision for conducting an investigation is just further proof that you lie when you claim to have been a LEO!

Just because your wife has to dress you up as Cagney to her Lacey in order to stomach sex with you, you still are not and have never been a member of law enforcement!

Why did Trump ask a foreign government to conduct the investigation of a US citizen — a citizen that the foreign government has no authority over, mind you — when his own law enforcement agencies won’t investigate Biden because there is no evidence to warrant an investigation?

Who the hell are you quoting?

ALL quotes were from Democrats, dipshit...

Gods, you are such a complete and utter Party slave..

Who the hell are you quoting? Yourself? You call Balthy a hypocrite for not posting a link, but at least his post said exactly where it came from and who was talking!

And it’s funny that you believe the impeachment trial has taken place before the House has had a chance to draw up the Articles for Impeachment. But I do agree with you that Trump’s confession pretty much ensures it will happen!

If the actual call is so gosh-darned damning, as ya'all claim, why did Schiff-head have to LIE and make the call sound really really bad.. Why not just read the verbatim text of this alleged really really bad call???

Personally, I think Schiff decided to “Bill Barr” the rough transcript and set the tone for how people should read the full transcript before Barr could. Barr was successful pulling this off with his not-a-summary-summary of the Mueller Report, and I think Schiff did this to block Barr from doing it again. You had no problem with Barr’s interpretation of Mueller’s report, even when Barr tried to deceive the public by claiming Mueller made findings that he clearly did not by Barr’s not publishing Mueller’s complete comments. Claiming someone admitted to a crime when they said, “I did...kill him”, when what they actually said was, “I did NOT kill him” is lying!

The biggest difference is that Schiff wasn’t claiming his account of the phone call was the actual official transcript.

Apparently, Joe Biden was a very wise man.. At one time..

"I am gonna beat you like a drum!!!"
Joe Biden

Today??? Not so much... :^(

And yet, that is EXACTLY what Democrats are doing, based on NOTHING but hearsay.. And third person hearsay to boot!!

Oh.... SNAP...

It would be nice if Democrats had the decency to at least be ashamed of their actions..

But the coup plotters show no shame, no remorse.. They happily do Putin's bidding and gleefully assist in destroying this great country..

REAL patriotic Americans will remember these nefarious actions of the Democrats at the ballot box..

It's like Democrats were looking into a crystal ball...

Fascinating how that is, eh? :D

"This impeachment is a deadly plant that has flowered in the toxic soil of partisanship. Given the highly contentious nature of the charges against the president, there is no question in my mind that the congressional leadership should have first established a bipartisan process for investigating the serious allegations"

I’m really disappointed in you. I spent all that time finishing your little story in the style that you had used and you ignore it completely.

That's because your immature and fact-less comments are EASY to ignore..

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'nuff said...

Master of Deflection strikes again! He cannot dispute the content, so he just attacks the news source. It is the same gimmick every day with him!

You are saying the Hunter DID NOT benefit from Joe Biden's efforts in Ukraine & China..

That it was jut a big coincidence that the **ONLY** two countries that Hunter Biden got BILLIONS from are the **ONLY** two countries where VP Joe Biden was the point man??

Hunter made BILLIONS off of the two deals? Trump hasn’t made anywhere near that amount in all of his career, yet Hunter Biden did it in just two deals! Wow! No wonder Trump hates him so much — Hunter Biden is 1,000,000x the business genius that Trump claims to be!

If Hunter can turn a $50k/month deal into BILLIONS of dollars as you keep claiming, then we definitely want his dad as president! Hopefully Hunter will be made the SEC’s chairperson...which Republicans won’t have a problem with since nepotism is no longer against the law if it is done by the President.

Any normal rational person would be hard pressed to detect any difference in the two actions of the VP and the President...<

Any member of a cult that believes that they are a”normal rational person” is sadly mistaken. For those that don’t worship at the Cheeto king’s alter, the difference is clear: Biden was acting on behalf of the country; Trump was acting on behalf of himself and NOT our country.

It’s odd that you think quid pro quo is always illegal. When Trump let the government shutdown and refused to get the government running again unless the Democrats gave in to his demands on funding the wall, that was illegal? Trump should be charged for that, too?

This is what has to be so frustrating for you

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Yes. You! FRUSTRATED!!!

I’m really disappointed in you. I spent all that time finishing your little story in the style that you had used and you ignore it completely. You cannot fault the facts of the matter that I presented, so you choose to attack the part where I offer my opinion of you. You are truly becoming a master in the art of deflection!

Popular is vanity, dipshit..

I know YOU don't.

But every other Weigantian does... Especially when it's applied to someone with a -R after their name..

Who has time to correct every screwball hypothesis?

You mean, besides me?? :D

The "vanity" vote? Don't you mean the POPULAR vote?

Why are you so afraid of that? Because your point of view has never actually been popular?*

*not in this century.

ANd if we were talking about the vanity vote, you would have a point..

But we're not so, as usual, you don't..

Come talk to me when you have FACTS...

Probably will never see you again..

That's a given.

JL says it isn't..

Which of you is factually accurate??

I'm "pretty sure" that she won the popular vote.

Do you honestly think that Biden was only given two things to do? Do you think he's Pence?

You didn't correct Blathy when he said it..

Same thing as agreeing with it..

The Democrat/Charlottesville rule..

That's a given.

What we're investigating now is just how deep this goes. So far we seem to have implicated the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the VP among others in this scheme, and we're only a week from starting.

Yea?? You were "pretty sure" that Trump was going to be frog marched from the oval office..

You were "pretty sure" that Hillary was going to be POTUS..

Let's face the FACTS, Blathy..

Yer "pretty sure" is **ALWAYS** wrong..

That is the COMPLETE opposite of what ya'all were saying a day or so ago..

Blathy came right out and said that the so-called "whistle blower" is not needed. That the phone call alone is sufficient.

So which is it???

And I am the King of Persia.

Apparently they DON'T matter.. To ya'all

Ya'all never have any facts..

And remember.. It's the OFFICIAL Weigantia position that it is virtually GUARRANTEED that the ONLY result from this whole Democrat faux impeachment coup...

President Trump remains in office..

Boy how that must SUCK for you, Blathy... :D

The FACTS & reality is TOTALLY against ya and yer bullshit claims... :D

Well, given the presumption of innocence, and presuming also that no further evidence comes to light, yes. Perhaps not the case in Ukraine.

Sure, if facts don't matter.

Gotta call bullshit on that claim. I'm quite sure that Biden's portfolio was significantly larger.

Yea.. And President Trump was completely innocent of Russia collusion..

And THAT is where the real story ends..

Unless you're wearing a tinfoil hat..

Pretty funny how no matter what ya level at President Trump and his supporters, it can be turned right around and factually leveled at Trump/America haters.. :D

THAT is ya'all's claim.

If this is factually accurate, why would Schiff-head read a "parody" of President Trump's call??

If the actual call is so gosh-darned damning, as ya'all claim, why did Schiff-head have to LIE and make the call sound really really bad.. Why not just read the verbatim text of this alleged really really bad call???

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Yea.. That's what usually happens when I catch ya'all in your bullshit and lies... :D

If there's a difference, it's only that Ivanka acted as part of her dad's administration and is therefore subject to official oversight.

YUGE difference, I'd say. Hunter was acting as a civilian holding a job. Ivanka (and Jared, and Donald Jr., and Eric) worked in the White House. Big Diff.

Shirley... You jest...