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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142910</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2019 22:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale
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&lt;i&gt;President Trump deserves credit for staying on the job to help us down here in FL.. &lt;/i&gt;

Trump would have also been &quot;on the job&quot; if he had gone to Poland versus sending Pence. 

&lt;i&gt;Of course, no one here will give him that credit.. &lt;/i&gt;

You want commenters here to give Trump credit for just &quot;staying on the job&quot;?

Low bar, Mike. *laughs*

&lt;i&gt;Everyone here will just come up with more reasons to hate on Trump.. &lt;/i&gt;

And if you attend a baseball game, they&#039;ll be playing baseball... no matter how much you whine and moan incessantly that you want football. Duh. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale<br />
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<p><i>President Trump deserves credit for staying on the job to help us down here in FL.. </i></p>
<p>Trump would have also been "on the job" if he had gone to Poland versus sending Pence. </p>
<p><i>Of course, no one here will give him that credit.. </i></p>
<p>You want commenters here to give Trump credit for just "staying on the job"?</p>
<p>Low bar, Mike. *laughs*</p>
<p><i>Everyone here will just come up with more reasons to hate on Trump.. </i></p>
<p>And if you attend a baseball game, they'll be playing baseball... no matter how much you whine and moan incessantly that you want football. Duh. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142908</link>
		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2019 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dsws
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&lt;i&gt;There are nine candidates that people have to choose among for who they actually want to vote for, and only one option if they want to go the &quot;safe&quot; white guy route. &lt;/i&gt;

Seriously!? You seem to continually keep making the ridiculous assertion that everyone in America shares your views. They don&#039;t. 

&lt;i&gt;Biden is the nominee, he&#039;s a general election loser, and Trump has a second term in the bag. &lt;/i&gt;

Again... a ridiculous assumption. :)</description>
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<p><i>There are nine candidates that people have to choose among for who they actually want to vote for, and only one option if they want to go the "safe" white guy route. </i></p>
<p>Seriously!? You seem to continually keep making the ridiculous assertion that everyone in America shares your views. They don't. </p>
<p><i>Biden is the nominee, he's a general election loser, and Trump has a second term in the bag. </i></p>
<p>Again... a ridiculous assumption. :)</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2019 12:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presidents don&#039;t have that much ability to make the economy run well.  Obama deserves only a little of the credit for the recovery during his administration, and the ra*ist-in-chief deserves only a little for the continued economic growth in the last two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presidents don't have that much ability to make the economy run well.  Obama deserves only a little of the credit for the recovery during his administration, and the ra*ist-in-chief deserves only a little for the continued economic growth in the last two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142881</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 20:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Trump Cancels Poland Trip as Hurricane Bears Down on Florida&lt;/B&gt;
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-29/trump-cancels-poland-trip-as-hurricane-bears-down-on-florida

President Trump deserves credit for staying on the job to help us down here in FL..

Of course, no one here will give him that credit.. Everyone here will just come up with more reasons to hate on Trump..   

#sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Trump Cancels Poland Trip as Hurricane Bears Down on Florida</b><br />
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<p>President Trump deserves credit for staying on the job to help us down here in FL..</p>
<p>Of course, no one here will give him that credit.. Everyone here will just come up with more reasons to hate on Trump..   </p>
<p>#sad</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142880</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Wages are mostly stagnant and the jobs that many citizens are getting are not good paying jobs or even as good as what jobs they may have previously had. &lt;/I&gt;

Not factually accurate.. Wages are up across the board..

&lt;I&gt;Unemployment has remained constant or slightly improved.&lt;/I&gt;

Hispanic and black American unemployment is the LOWEST it has ever been..

LOWEST IT HAS EVER BEEN...

But to hear the haters tell it, THAT is because of Obama..

Obama.. The moron who said 2% GDP is the &quot;new normal&quot;..

Obama.. The moron who said, &quot;You didn&#039;t build that&quot;...

Obama.. The moron who said that manufacturing jobs and coal jobs weren&#039;t coming back.

THAT is who Trump/America haters want to give credit to..  The moron who DENIED it could ever happen..

&lt;I&gt;The cold hard truth is you have be a few tools short in the toolbox to not be in the top 1-10% and think that voting for either Trump or any of the big money Democrats is in your best interests economically.&lt;/I&gt;

It is.. Most Americans are happier and wealthier thanx to President Trump&#039;s actions..

FAR better off than they were under Odumbo and the Dumbocrats...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wages are mostly stagnant and the jobs that many citizens are getting are not good paying jobs or even as good as what jobs they may have previously had. </i></p>
<p>Not factually accurate.. Wages are up across the board..</p>
<p><i>Unemployment has remained constant or slightly improved.</i></p>
<p>Hispanic and black American unemployment is the LOWEST it has ever been..</p>
<p>LOWEST IT HAS EVER BEEN...</p>
<p>But to hear the haters tell it, THAT is because of Obama..</p>
<p>Obama.. The moron who said 2% GDP is the "new normal"..</p>
<p>Obama.. The moron who said, "You didn't build that"...</p>
<p>Obama.. The moron who said that manufacturing jobs and coal jobs weren't coming back.</p>
<p>THAT is who Trump/America haters want to give credit to..  The moron who DENIED it could ever happen..</p>
<p><i>The cold hard truth is you have be a few tools short in the toolbox to not be in the top 1-10% and think that voting for either Trump or any of the big money Democrats is in your best interests economically.</i></p>
<p>It is.. Most Americans are happier and wealthier thanx to President Trump's actions..</p>
<p>FAR better off than they were under Odumbo and the Dumbocrats...</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142879</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Honestly...for what?&lt;/I&gt;

I am not going to waste my time digging up the reference because you will simply ignore it and respond with more Trump hate..

I know it, CW knows it and you know it too.. You just can&#039;t can&#039;t admit that President Trump has actually done some good for this country..

You&#039;re hate has made you a caricature of denial..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Honestly...for what?</i></p>
<p>I am not going to waste my time digging up the reference because you will simply ignore it and respond with more Trump hate..</p>
<p>I know it, CW knows it and you know it too.. You just can't can't admit that President Trump has actually done some good for this country..</p>
<p>You're hate has made you a caricature of denial..</p>
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		<title>By: Balthasar</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142877</link>
		<dc:creator>Balthasar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Even CW has acknowledged Trump&#039;s credit...&lt;/i&gt;

Honestly...for what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Even CW has acknowledged Trump's credit...</i></p>
<p>Honestly...for what?</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142876</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;The rest is a mess - no bright spots.&lt;/I&gt;

You only see what you want to see..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The rest is a mess - no bright spots.</i></p>
<p>You only see what you want to see..</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142875</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;The economy is Obama&#039;s - until Trump kills it.&lt;/I&gt;

Unless something bad happens.. Then it&#039;s all Trump&#039;s..

You prove my point for me..

Even CW has acknowledged Trump&#039;s credit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The economy is Obama's - until Trump kills it.</i></p>
<p>Unless something bad happens.. Then it's all Trump's..</p>
<p>You prove my point for me..</p>
<p>Even CW has acknowledged Trump's credit...</p>
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		<title>By: Balthasar</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142874</link>
		<dc:creator>Balthasar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;President Trump NEVER gets any credit when and where credit is due..&lt;/i&gt;

So, like, when and where is credit due? 

The economy is Obama&#039;s - until Trump kills it.

The rest is a mess - no bright spots.

So when and where?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>President Trump NEVER gets any credit when and where credit is due..</i></p>
<p>So, like, when and where is credit due? </p>
<p>The economy is Obama's - until Trump kills it.</p>
<p>The rest is a mess - no bright spots.</p>
<p>So when and where?</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142873</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;As I&#039;ve pointed out many times, the current presidents get all the credit when things go right, and all the blame when things go to hell, and truth be known, they rarely deserve either.&lt;/I&gt;

Except for the fact that, around these here parts and with a couple of very VERY rare exceptions (CW and JL come to mind in addition to present company) President Trump NEVER gets any credit when and where credit is due..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As I've pointed out many times, the current presidents get all the credit when things go right, and all the blame when things go to hell, and truth be known, they rarely deserve either.</i></p>
<p>Except for the fact that, around these here parts and with a couple of very VERY rare exceptions (CW and JL come to mind in addition to present company) President Trump NEVER gets any credit when and where credit is due..</p>
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		<title>By: C. R. Stucki</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142872</link>
		<dc:creator>C. R. Stucki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale

As I&#039;ve pointed out many times, the current presidents get all the credit when things go right, and all the blame when things go to hell, and truth be known, they rarely deserve either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale</p>
<p>As I've pointed out many times, the current presidents get all the credit when things go right, and all the blame when things go to hell, and truth be known, they rarely deserve either.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142871</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Your forecast is based on the premise (which may well turn out to be totally valid), that Trump&#039;s 2016 supporters are &quot;party slaves&quot; as Michale puts it, who have failed to recognize what an incompetent asshole their guy turned out to be.&lt;/I&gt;

If one is only interested in President Trump&#039;s screwups, yea..  There are a few that can be found.

But if one really cares about this country, it&#039;s clear based on the FACTS that President Trump has done much more good than bad..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Your forecast is based on the premise (which may well turn out to be totally valid), that Trump's 2016 supporters are "party slaves" as Michale puts it, who have failed to recognize what an incompetent asshole their guy turned out to be.</i></p>
<p>If one is only interested in President Trump's screwups, yea..  There are a few that can be found.</p>
<p>But if one really cares about this country, it's clear based on the FACTS that President Trump has done much more good than bad..</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142870</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;There are nine candidates that people have to choose among for who they actually want to vote for, and only one option if they want to go the &quot;safe&quot; white guy route. That disparity cannot be overcome. Biden is the nominee, he&#039;s a general election loser, and Trump has a second term in the bag.&lt;/I&gt;

Succinct, direct, to the point..  And above all else, with regards to the last part, dead on ballz accurate...   

The only down side that I will have to vote for Biden..

A small price to pay for a second President Trump term.. :D

Having said that, I still don&#039;t agree that Biden is the shoe-in for the nomination.. All his gaffes and errors and bonehead statements are cumulative..

But it&#039;s irrelevant.  There is not a candidate in he mix who can beat President Trump...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There are nine candidates that people have to choose among for who they actually want to vote for, and only one option if they want to go the "safe" white guy route. That disparity cannot be overcome. Biden is the nominee, he's a general election loser, and Trump has a second term in the bag.</i></p>
<p>Succinct, direct, to the point..  And above all else, with regards to the last part, dead on ballz accurate...   </p>
<p>The only down side that I will have to vote for Biden..</p>
<p>A small price to pay for a second President Trump term.. :D</p>
<p>Having said that, I still don't agree that Biden is the shoe-in for the nomination.. All his gaffes and errors and bonehead statements are cumulative..</p>
<p>But it's irrelevant.  There is not a candidate in he mix who can beat President Trump...</p>
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		<title>By: C. R. Stucki</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. R. Stucki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dsws

Your forecast is based on the premise (which may well turn out to be totally valid), that Trump&#039;s 2016 supporters are &quot;party slaves&quot; as Michale puts it, who have failed to recognize what an incompetent asshole their guy turned out to be.

I think there&#039;s actually a chance that a good many votes that elected him last time were not actually Trump votes, but were rather anti-Clinton votes.  There&#039;s a chance that those folks were not so ideologically committed (aka &quot;party slaves&quot;) as to be willing to accept a centrist Dem.

As a Libertarian, I&#039;ll have trouble voting for any Dem, but this just may turn out to be the one time in 84 yrs that I have to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dsws</p>
<p>Your forecast is based on the premise (which may well turn out to be totally valid), that Trump's 2016 supporters are "party slaves" as Michale puts it, who have failed to recognize what an incompetent asshole their guy turned out to be.</p>
<p>I think there's actually a chance that a good many votes that elected him last time were not actually Trump votes, but were rather anti-Clinton votes.  There's a chance that those folks were not so ideologically committed (aka "party slaves") as to be willing to accept a centrist Dem.</p>
<p>As a Libertarian, I'll have trouble voting for any Dem, but this just may turn out to be the one time in 84 yrs that I have to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 14:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are nine candidates that people have to choose among for who they actually want to vote for, and only one option if they want to go the &quot;safe&quot; white guy route.  That disparity cannot be overcome.  Biden is the nominee, he&#039;s a general election loser, and Trump has a second term in the bag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are nine candidates that people have to choose among for who they actually want to vote for, and only one option if they want to go the "safe" white guy route.  That disparity cannot be overcome.  Biden is the nominee, he's a general election loser, and Trump has a second term in the bag.</p>
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		<title>By: Bleyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bleyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big fan of Julian Castro... for vice president.  His relative youth (44) and latino descent would provide a very nice balance to the old whiteness of the 3 most likely candidates to win the nomination.  I don&#039;t think he has broad enough political experience for the presidency yet, but he&#039;s pretty knowledgeable on domestic policy and still decently in touch with regular people, being a former mayor of a large city and HUD secretary.  Again, a good balance for senators like Biden, Sanders, and Warren.  Not only that, but Castro is quite popular in his home state of Texas, and could continue to accelerate the purpling of that state, and at the very least help to maximize the latino turnout that is almost certain to be a huge benefit to democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm a big fan of Julian Castro... for vice president.  His relative youth (44) and latino descent would provide a very nice balance to the old whiteness of the 3 most likely candidates to win the nomination.  I don't think he has broad enough political experience for the presidency yet, but he's pretty knowledgeable on domestic policy and still decently in touch with regular people, being a former mayor of a large city and HUD secretary.  Again, a good balance for senators like Biden, Sanders, and Warren.  Not only that, but Castro is quite popular in his home state of Texas, and could continue to accelerate the purpling of that state, and at the very least help to maximize the latino turnout that is almost certain to be a huge benefit to democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 03:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;The Great Winnowing&lt;/b&gt; is highly evocative.  The Atlantic is using also using the phrase.  Whoever coined it (or more likely repurposed it...only so many words in English) it&#039;s just about perfect.   I think the next act has 4 speaking roles and 6 extras.

For me, it boils down to just 3 with distinct virtues

Biden - institutional memory

Warren - progressive planner

Sanders - progressive negotiator</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The Great Winnowing</b> is highly evocative.  The Atlantic is using also using the phrase.  Whoever coined it (or more likely repurposed it...only so many words in English) it's just about perfect.   I think the next act has 4 speaking roles and 6 extras.</p>
<p>For me, it boils down to just 3 with distinct virtues</p>
<p>Biden - institutional memory</p>
<p>Warren - progressive planner</p>
<p>Sanders - progressive negotiator</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142861</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of note: https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/459067-mississippi-officials-confirm-multiple-cases-of-voting-machines-changing

Here is a documented - no one is saying this is just a rumor, it happened and everyone agrees it happened - case of voting machines changing votes.


This crap has to get handled. #MoscowMitch needs to get out of the way of election security legislation, for a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of note: <a href="https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/459067-mississippi-officials-confirm-multiple-cases-of-voting-machines-changing" rel="nofollow">https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/459067-mississippi-officials-confirm-multiple-cases-of-voting-machines-changing</a></p>
<p>Here is a documented - no one is saying this is just a rumor, it happened and everyone agrees it happened - case of voting machines changing votes.</p>
<p>This crap has to get handled. #MoscowMitch needs to get out of the way of election security legislation, for a start.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/08/28/the-great-winnowing/#comment-142860</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking forward to Debate #3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking forward to Debate #3.</p>
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