Anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together and not enslaved by Party or ideology knows this to be true..

if you're so sure, are you going to pledge here and now that you'll vote for biden in the general if he's the dem nominee? assuming you're right, such a pledge would be a meaningless thought exercise. but i suspect you're just blowing hot air on this one.

;)
~JL

Actually.. DSWS was right..

YOU were wrong...

Deal with it...

dsws was right. State polls (the ones the DNC officially approves of) do count. Yang has now qualified for the third debate. More info from the article on others:

In addition to Yang, two other candidates picked up a poll toward qualifying for the debate stage. Billionaire Tom Steyer was at 3 percent, his third qualifying poll for the fall debates. New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand was at 2 percent, her first qualifying poll for the fall stage.

Qualification for the September debate closes on Aug. 28. Other candidates who are in the mix for qualifying include Julián Castro and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard. Both Castro and Gabbard have hit the donor mark, while Castro needs one more poll and Gabbard needs three. Neither Steyer nor Gillibrand have publicly said they’ve hit the donor mark.

Here's the link:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/08/andrew-yang-qualifies-democratic-debates-1453030

-CW

For example...????

Barack Hussein Obama was elected precisely because he DIDN'T have Biden's kind of history..

Duh...

The simple fact is, Joe Biden will not be the nominee..

Anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together and not enslaved by Party or ideology knows this to be true..

Only because you believe it. It's based on how some stuff looks now.

"How some stuff looks now"!? Your political commentary is rather juvenile. The article Paula posted wasn't even mainly about Joe Biden but about voters and how the GOP is "Fkd."

From the moment Biden has enough pledged delegates for the nomination, right through to election day, there will be a news hook every single day that relates to stuff that Democrats and Democratic-leaning apoliticals don't like about him.

Wrong. That shit will start long before then as it always does.

You can't have turnout for a Democrat with his history.

There were a lot of stupid people who made the same claim about the political ticket of Barack Hussein Obama and Joe Biden. Twice. :)

I know.. Annoying iddn't it.. :^/

C'mon, put your Quatloos where your mouth is... or something...

As you well know, I really don't have a dog in this hunt, as you know..

But hay... I'll participate.. :D

I was going to say DeBlasio is definitely going to bow out.. But I am not sure his ego will allow him too..
I think political pressure from his day job might force him too..

So, I'll put DeBlasio on the BOW OUT list..

Messam and Moulton are definitely going to disappear before the next debate..

Sestak & Bennet round out my list of "I'M OUTTA HERE" candidates...

20,000 Quatloos to win... :D

Where did ya go???

Don't go away mad... :D

hehehehehehe

That's EXACTLY what I have been telling Victoria!! :D

You can't have turnout for a Democrat with his history. No matter what the generic ballot polling looks like now.

EXACTLY!!!

If Biden is the nominee, Progressives will stay home by the millions..

End Result: President Trump wins re-election easily..

And, if Democrat nominate a Party Pure candidate, Independents and NPAs will vote Trump or stay home by the millions.

End Result: President Trump wins re-election easily..

The logic is sound...

C'mon, put your Quatloos where your mouth is... or something...

Heh.

-CW

Only because you believe it. It's based on how some stuff looks now. From the moment Biden has enough pledged delegates for the nomination, right through to election day, there will be a news hook every single day that relates to stuff that Democrats and Democratic-leaning apoliticals don't like about him. You can't have turnout for a Democrat with his history. No matter what the generic ballot polling looks like now.

I am remiss in updating because this is getting to be a regular "thing."

Another Texas lawmaker announces his retirement; Kenny Marchant of TX-24 will not seek reelection. I cannot say as I blame Kenny since he barely won reelection in his heavily gerrymandered district by a mere 3% in the 2018 midterms. While Kenny did not get washed out in the Blue Wave of 2018, he took on a whole lot of water.

Before the gerrymandering/redistricting of Texas after the 2000 census, the district of TX-24 -- comprised of the suburbs of Dallas County, Tarrant County, and a small part Denton County -- had been represented by Martin Frost (D) for 26 years and looks to turn Blue again real soon.

House incumbents who have announced their retirement from public office:

Republicans

AL-02 Martha Roby
GA-07 Rob Woodall
IN-05 Susan Brooks
MI-10 Paul Mitchell
TX-11 Mike Conaway
TX-22 Pete Olson
TX-23 Will Hurd
TX-24 Kenny Marchant
UT-01 Rob Bishop

Democrats

IA-02 Dave Loebsack
NY-15 Jose Serrano
_______________

Retirements by incumbents generally signal the Party lawmakers believe will control the House; the insiders are predicting Blue.

African American and Hispanic unemployment under his presidency is the lowest it has been in 60 years. The president pushed through criminal justice reform and has created empowerment zones that help economically distressed communities — and their poorer residents — through tax incentives and grants. In short, he has done more for minorities in three years than President Obama did in eight, and he deserves credit instead of rebuke.

Once again..

FACTS... vs whatever you call what ya'all have..

When one looks at the FACTS, and not Democrat hysterical bullshit, there is simply no way anyone could HONESTLY believe that President Trump is racist..

Finally, a REAL Patriot as President Of The United States..

Thanx Paula.. I wasn't going to go off topic in this commentary thread..

But, since you opened the door.. :D

https://img.thelist.com/img/gallery/the-stunning-transformation-of-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/relocating-to-westchester-had-a-huge-impact-on-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-1564425754.jpg

She looks like one of those cavemen from the Geico commercials.. :D

Harwell said Castro was drawing “hard lines,” and said that was “not helpful.”

Typical Democrat.. Nothing but a Party slave...

Joaquin Castro outed one of his own donors in bid to shame Trump supporters
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joaquin-castro-outed-one-of-his-own-donors-in-bid-to-shame-trump-supporters

I swear, it must be a pre-requisite that Democrats don't have 2 brain cells to rub together!!! :D

So, BOTH CBMSs, in El Paso and the AntiFa scumbag in Dayton were caused by Democrats...

Figgers...

Yea.. Thanx to AntiFa terrorists.. :eyeroll:

Only a moron would mistake auto backfire for gun fire..

Yea.. Nice.. Assholes ruin a solemn remembrance of the victims of the AntiFa shooter...

Democrats disgust me..

Only because it says what you want to hear..

:D

My first instinct is to assume Repubs are sticking with DJT and/or ducking responsibility & refusing to act because they are lying cowards but even I have trouble believing their dishonesty & cowardice extends to the level we're at now.

There was a panic on Times Square last night when a motorcycle backfired and people thought a shooting was happening. People stormed a theatre looking for cover, disrupting the play and terrifying everyone. That's where were at.

This morning on Raw Story was a report about an interracial couple in Ohio who's house was blown up last night by monsters who left swastikas etc.

Repubs started all this, nurtured it and now get to see the fruits and the fruits are ugly. There's also the potential for backlash, which had Repub leaders/media whores all screaming about Julian Castro releasing a list of GOP donors last night, saying it incited violence against the donors.

Isn't that interesting? Repubs worrying they may be subject to the same kind of violence they've been energetically and irresponsibly and reprehensibly heaping on others?

Meanwhile the despicable pustule that is Blotus polluted Dayton with his presence today, to be greeted with the baby balloon and protestors. Sherrod Brown wasn't going to be there, but changed his mind & said he would ask Blotus to...whatever it was. Tell #MoscowMitch to move on the House bill or something. Doesn't matter. Even if Blotus agrees, Steven Miller will stop him. Brown shouldn't bother. You can't work with liars.

Stan Greenberg is a top Democratic pollster. He just released the results of a phone survey that cuts through the clouds of media dust and shows who’s leading the presidential horse race—and why:

"Most commentators are failing to read how ordinary Americans, independents, some Republicans and Democrats, are responding to President Trump and how determined they are to bring an end to his presidency and its defining fight against immigration and a multicultural America. Voters are paying intense attention to politics, and their conclusions indicate a landslide win for the Democrats in 2020, whether they nominate somebody like Vice President Joe Biden or somebody like Senator Elizabeth Warren."

He looks at trends such as immigration and intensity (especially anti-Trump intensity), all of which point toward an even larger blue wave in 2020. He has Biden over Trump 49-41 and Warren over Trump 49-43, with Amash taking 7 and 4, respectively. While Dems still won’t win white working class men and women, they won’t lose them by nearly as much as they have. And GOP enthusiasm is flagging among secular conservative and moderate Republicans, presumably because these people want to be able to show their faces at block parties and not have their houses egged on Halloween.

???? No “aggressive scents” in the quiet room
???? No misuse of doors
???? No interacting with cops
???? No talking to the press

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Socialists issue long list of bans at convention: ‘Aggressive scents,’ ‘shortcut’ doors, ‘gendered language,’ ‘talking to press or ‘MAGA a**holes’
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-dem-socialist-convention-derailed-by-noisy-chatter-gendered-language-aggressive-scents/

About as UN-American as one can get.. :^/

Democrats expect to attract Independents, NPAs and Trump voters with crap like this!??

Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Hussein Obama, etc etc

Carter is just too easy...

Clinton, getting a blow job in the oval office. Leaving a bad taste in everyone's mouth AND leaving evidence for Lewinsky to retain.. BEYOND stoopid..

Barack Hussein Obama, thinking he could get away with such blatant lying?? Not as stoopid as Clinton, but still up there...

As with most everything else.. Stoopid is in the eye of the beholder.. :D

Ouch!! That's gotta hurt... :D

The polling criterion closes weeks before the third debate. Meaning many candidates will be aware they didn't make it (as well as the media).

Yep.

Some might choose to drop out before then rather than "be forced off the stage" as it were, to keep a modicum of a shred of respect about the process of quitting the race.

A shred of respect!? Respect? You mean like:
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Find out what it means to me
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Take care, TCB.
Oh, sock it to me, sock it to me...

Ahem. Got carried away there. Where were we?

Knowing that, would you like to change your entry?

Hmmmmmmmmm. *music from Jeopardy*
Ummmmmmm…

Nope!

Most of these people have been polling in the dirt for months already so what's a few more weeks? They're all going to cram into Iowa and New Hampshire and hang on forever! Nobody's leaving before September 12; they're never, ever leaving!

The show must go on. :)

hehehehe... :D

FX dismisses critics of Clinton scandal miniseries timed for 2020 election
https://ew.com/tv/2019/08/06/fx-slams-clinton-impeachment-miniseries-election/

A docu-drama, produced by Monica Lewinsky, about the Clinton's *BIGGEST* scandal 6 weeks before the 2020 election..

PERFECT... :D

"God loves the infantry"
-Terrorist, DIE HARD

:D

DNC seems to be doing that a lot lately... :^/

There was a stink over a poll for either the first or the second debate run by Washington Post (with someone else, ABC maybe?) that didn't qualify because the pollster didn't read a full list of candidates off -- it was just open: "which candidate do you support?" with no names.

Sounds like Bullock, for the first debate. If I remember right, he had qualified, and the DNC de-qualified him by changing its mind about the poll he'd qualified with.

The latest Suffolk University-Boston Globe poll finds Biden at 21 percent support, followed by Sanders at 17 percent and Warren at 14 percent. No other candidate has double-digit support in the Granite State.

Personally, I would LOVE to see Warren get the nod..

Because I know for a FACT that she will NEVER appeal to Independents, NPAs or Trump voters..

So, Warren as the Dem nominee means a definitive President Trump re-election...

As predicted..

Party Purity is what's in..

Electability is out...

Just to point out from the previous commentary..

Not only did I give you kudos for your giving credit to President Trump, I even posted it to my other forum.. :D

That's the most impressive change in gun law since 1986, and -- again, to his credit -- it came from Donald Trump's administration.
-chrisweigant.com

Color me gabber-flasted :D
https://www.scottadamsfans.com/content/blog.aspx?id=348#disqus_thread

What I DID fail to mention (both here and there) is that you not only gave credit to President Trump, you did so TWICE!!!

I hope this giving credit where credit is due (even if it's to President Trump) is a trend... :D

It would go a LONG ways in settling things down here...

I'm just sayin'... :D

The DNC is trying to prevent Yang from participating in the Sep debates, even though he meets the criteria..

I guess the DNC is racist against asians.... Color me shocked.. :eyeroll:

Of course, it's hard to argue (see: Donald Trump, Dubya Bush, Ronald Reagan, etc.).

You know, I bet you could make a pretty good argument in each of those cases for "political savvy" without lifting a finger! :)

Whoops! Been forgetting to include reference numbers to previous comments. Sorry it's been so long since I've done this...

Yeah, well, 8 have qualified, and I could accept a few more. It's still early days. However, by the 5th debate they better be down to 6, maximum...

:-)

[12] -

Oooo! Nice comeback!

Heh.

-CW

The polling criterion closes weeks before the third debate. Meaning many candidates will be aware they didn't make it (as well as the media). Some might choose to drop out before then rather than "be forced off the stage" as it were, to keep a modicum of a shred of respect about the process of quitting the race.

Knowing that, would you like to change your entry?

Personally, I am betting the most heavily (an extra 500 Quatloos!) on Hickenlooper and Bullock dropping out to launch Senate campaigns, personally. The others, I'm not so sure...

-CW

I used to be one of those idiots who used stupidity in that sentence but, Biden eventually convinced me of my error.

One thing I am sure about is that in the third debate the criteria is "BOTH polling numbers AND donations." In the first two debates, it was "either/or."

-CW

That is not to say that the rest of the candidates don't have a lot of good things to say and they should be a big part of Democrats winning big in 2020.

Did you mean "the political savvy" of the American people? Usually when I hear that sentence from foreigners it reads "the stupidity"... heh. Of course, it's hard to argue (see: Donald Trump, Dubya Bush, Ronald Reagan, etc.).

:-)

But I gotta admit, Biden's still looking pretty solid!

-CW

Well, OK, I'll believe Wikipedia -- haven't really ever seen the official language, I admit, but I did see one recent NH poll which was specified as "does not qualify" for debate status, so maybe I just projected from that.

All I know for sure is the DNC is in full control of what counts and what doesn't. There was a stink over a poll for either the first or the second debate run by Washington Post (with someone else, ABC maybe?) that didn't qualify because the pollster didn't read a full list of candidates off -- it was just open: "which candidate do you support?" with no names. The WashPost argued that this was actually HARDER for candidates to qualify in, which I thought made sense, but the DNC didn't relent and the next WP poll asked the question both ways, so the part where they named the candidates would qualify.

Maybe check the DNC's own website, they might have the actual rules posted somewhere...?

-CW

Seriously.

Not off the top of my head, sorry. But I'm pretty sure it's national. In fact, the real language is "a national poll the DNC has approved of" or something similar. National polls not on their list don't qualify.

Like I said, I don't have an official link, but here's a Politico story talking about the difference between the third and the FOURTH debate entry criteria...

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/06/dnc-2020-democratic-debate-1448871

-CW

In this order:

1.
2.
3.

I don't think anybody will drop out before the third debate. Why should they? The criteria to make the fourth debate in October are exactly the same as the third debate with all that additional time to qualify, and 2% is just low enough of a threshold for them to hang in there and hope for a miracle.

Having said all that, I sincerely hope there are about 2/3 of them that drop out before the third debate and prove me wrong. :)

Of course, there is a definite question about whether they have a "qualified incumbent" to worry about? Maybe that gives them hope.

Of course, he can't meet the number-of-donors criterion, so the polling is moot in his case. But the idea is the same, if one of the ignored candidates does have enough.

Polling Threshold. Candidates must receive 2% or more support in at least four polls (which may be national polls, or polls in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and/or Nevada) meeting the following criteria ... .
https://democrats.org/news/third-debate/

Do you know where these rules can be found? I had read that it could be either national or state polls.