What a pair! The "Board Troll" and the 'Troll Broad'!!

You said that as if he's the only board troll! *laughs*

My worth here is well established.. :D

Flooding the zone with a cornucopia of ignorant bullshit and then bragging about your own pathetic spew!?

Delusional Fantasies of a Board Troll

What was the total when I was away?? 50?? 60??? Lucky to hit 100?? :D

My worth here is well established.. :D

Awwww give MyVoice a break...

She has no voice of her own and merely just parrots her Party slavery.. :D

She's a necessary evil...

You flatter yourself

And yet.. Here you are... Responding to someone you claim to ignore!! :D

Face the facts, sunshine.. You read my every word.. I own you...

There is no place here for your special brand of nonsense.

Wait, what? *laughs*

I wholeheartedly and most assuredly disagree. There is definitely a place for you here... it's most definitely your kind of place. :)

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You flatter yourself

Such is the life of your board troll. Cluelessness and low self-esteem are a wicked mixture. :)

Not only that, but she acknowledged my military expertise..

You think so? Does not surprise me.

Perhaps then this is a prime example of how reading comprehension problems can rear their ugly head and provide the catalyst for miscommunication and the resultant issues that arise therefrom. So let's review, shall we?

[254] nypoet22 wrote to @michale:

... by your service you've earned the right to comment on its usefulness relative to other career paths. however, those who have neither higher education nor service of any kind have no business commenting on the validity of either.

JL

Then Don got his knickers in a twist because JL nailed it. Fast forward where Michale responded with his opinion regarding "perhaps a more polite way of saying it"... where "it" is JL's comment at 254:

Michale: Perhaps a more polite way of saying it would be:

Since you have neither the training, the expertise, the experience nor the education to render an intelligent response, perhaps you should remain quiet and be thought a fool rather then engage communication and remove all doubt.

Kick: Yes. I am pleasantly surprised you are correct. :)

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2019/06/21/ftp532/#comment-138069

Hmmmmm. On second thought, now that I see these statements placed one next to the other, perhaps my assessment that Michale's verbiage was "more polite" appears to have been a hasty decision, but I digress.

Now I ask you: However did you deduce that my agreement that your wording about Don's admitted lack of training, expertise, experience, and education to "render an intelligent response" would have been a "more polite" way of saying JL's comment at 254 was the equivalent of an acknowledgement of your so-called "military expertise"?

*facepalm*

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You flatter yourself

All the original founding members are in agreement and a JEEP was along for the ride.. :D

Not only that, but she acknowledged my military expertise..

Kumbaya indeed...!

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hay MV, since you are so graciously allowing me to live in your head, rent free, you don't mind if I redecorate here, do you??

Funny how you don't post often, but when you do you can't resist mentioning me.. :D

Heh.

Sneaker! <--- my highest praise

Kumbaya!?

Any reason you picked this true old Song of the South... creole from the Carolinas that was literally a cry for help sung by African slaves? Tread lightly, my boy, lest you be accused of insensitivity and asked for an apology like Joe Biden.

Jes kidden ;)

Kum ba h'ya
Come by here

It was a cry for help.

oh come on. michale was right, and kick acknowledged that michale was right. let's all sing kumbaya already!

JL

Great.

Thank you; it appears I may have hit a nerve (and, possibly, learned a new definition for accommodate), however. You can just imagine how crushed I was that a simple, straightforward expression of my opinion was deemed "insignificant blather."

The psychic ability demonstrated to read between the lines of my statement deserves only one response (and this is a direct quote):

BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

MyVoice wrote:

A bunch of insignificant blather shouting out to Weigantia how much he ignores people he doesn't agree with, thereby completely refuting his own claims..

luser :eyeroll: ~ Michale

I am sincerely gobsmacked at the utter cluelessness of your troll. ;)

As if on cue. Very well said, I might add <--- and so I did.

Don't be a stranger. :)

Closing Time... You don't have to go home buy you can't stay here...

Ni ni Ya'all.. Hope ya'all have better luck tomorrow..

A bunch of insignificant blather shouting out to Weigantia how much he ignores people he doesn't agree with, thereby completely refuting his own claims..

luser :eyeroll:

The Dumbocrat Party hero..

Jussie Smollet....

Epitomizes everything WRONG with the Democrat Party and it's adherence to identity politics...

Upvoting the Ritholtz policy for this blog.

I, too, appreciate and learn from spirited debate, differing perspectives, and new information; that's what keeps me reading beyond the blog post. Oh, and I'm a fan of intelligent humor as well.

The dross Ritholtz enumerates is something I've accommodated as the price for the thoughtful, insightful responses here. Would I rather not have to accommodate? You betcha.

Delusional trolls..

Yet another topic for which you are infinitely qualified to opine.

Easiest thing to do is ignore them.. :D

Said the guy for which Charles S. Brown, Esq. bestowed us all with his fabulous Tamper Monkey device to filter you out when necessary; however, the use of Neil's excellent scrolling advice regarding your multiple spamming/trolling posts is equally effectual. :)

Kick thinks BS is running for the nomination of the Independent Party.

Said the admitted registered Republican who claimed not to have anything to do with Republicans, but I digress.

Seriously, though, Stucki... if you want to know what I think, you are free to ask versus the asinine exercise of making it up.

I said that Bernie Sanders wasn't a Democrat because he is isn't a Democrat. Despite the fact that Bernie likes to portray himself as an "outsider," he's indeed been an Independent serving in the House and Senate for multiple decades now.

If Bernie ever wins the presidency, I will then refer to him as a Democrat... but I don't think that'll ever happen. Maybe I have a different opinion than others here, but I happen to think Trump would beat Bernie because Bernie would play right into the GOP rhetoric regarding socialism... there's nothing quite like a video wherein you praise Fidel Castro to hammer that nail home.

In March 2019, Bernie Sanders filed the requisite paperwork to become a candidate for the Senate in 2024... as an Independent. Any more questions? :)

no, i'm not telling you to shut up, but it wouldn't do you any harm if you did, and might even help. one never knows when CW will decide to take his comment policy the way of barry ritholtz:

This blog is not a forum where I am obligated to give equal time to every crackpot conspiracy theorist, birther or intellectually lazy wanker out there. To be blunt, I don’t give a flying fuck at a rolling donut about these jackhole’s opinions. These folk need to rapidly disabuse themselves from believing other people’s blog’s are an open invitation for whatever ignorance or ill thought out nonsense they are peddling.

https://ritholtz.com/comment-policy/

He said "wanker" and "rolling donut." *laughs*

JL is right about this, of course. It would be sad if CW had to resort to applying a "full Ritholtz." Oh, who am I kidding; that would be freaking awesome... I'd supply the popcorn for that! :)

No business commenting sounds like shut up to me.

Nope. It's simply pointing out the pointlessness of your comments.

Perhaps a more polite way of saying it would be:
Since you have neither the training, the expertise, the experience nor the education to render an intelligent response, perhaps you should remain quiet and be thought a fool rather then engage communication and remove all doubt.

Yes. I am pleasantly surprised you are correct. :)

"[Trump] should not be worried. Look, the far left path that the Democratic party has become is nowhere near mainstream America. And it is mainstream America that elects presidents."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-polls-not-worried-democrats-john-sununu

One would think that Americans would realize how utterly FRAK'ed the polls are where President Trump is concerned..

But yet, the Left is still giddy about Presidential Election polls more than 500 days out and treat them as gospel!!

It's hilarious.. :D

No business commenting sounds like shut up to me.

Oh, come on! He was acknowledging Michale's service and so-called "moral authority" to speak on the subject.

Quit your whining and shut up about it. ---> That's what "shut up" sounds like. :)

And then Don's head exploded.

Probably because he resembles that remark. :)

I believe what JL is saying is that if you don't have military service under your belt then, while you can make all the comments you want, the fact of your NON-service can be used to determine the validity of your comments or the weight they should be given.. Same goes for college education...

He was specifically referring to Michale's service and acknowledging Michale's "moral authority" to speak on the subject to which he was speaking. In a word: Deference.

Then Don got his knickers in a twist over something that was never said nor implied.

That's just my take on what JL may mean..

He was making a comment about you personally, and then Don's head exploded over nothing. :)

So those that have a higher education or military service have no right to comment on the validity of not having a higher education or military service?

That's exactly the opposite of what he said, VC.

I eagerly await a display of the application of your critical thinking.

We've all seen your bio, and you're quite obviously asking JL for that which you're not willing to proffer... even if you had the ability. :)

I know..

Delusional trolls..

Whatareya gonna do?? :eyeroll:

Easiest thing to do is ignore them.. :D

Put her in a Pro-Trump forum and she wouldn't last a day...

This is a pro-Trump forum because of the genuflecting, Trump cockholstering troll. :)

Kick thinks BS is running for the nomination of the Independent Party.

And WHO has the upper hand when it comes to illegal immigration??

President Trump or the Dumbocrats??

President Trump wins by a landslide...

And Dumbocrats are left sucking the hind tit.. :D

By definition Kick is the troll here.

Said the guy with the shitty idea trolling the author to shill for him. :)

THAT will go over good with those Americans who worked their asses off to pay off their loans..

Will THEY get a refund???

You sound like a socialist whining about a handout and equal treatment.

This is the problem with Democrats and their ludicrous ideas... They don't think them thru...

Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat. You should have thought that one through. :)

Americans are leaving the Democrat Party in droves by the millions...

I would wager you supplied no proof of your assertion since the facts prove otherwise.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

And, if Democrats start impeachment, which is likely, Independents will also leave the Democrats in the dust on their way to President Trump's camp...

Tell them to bring their own soap and toothpaste. :)

on another note, i just read an explanation why the citizenship question on the census really matters. why on earth hadn't this occurred to me before?

Good article. Sad, isn't it, though? The GOP has been infinitely aware for quite awhile that when Texas flips, it's all over for them... I mean, the GOP as we know it now will cease to exist, but if you think about it, hasn't their spineless embrace and acquiescence to Hair Dick Tater hastened that inevitable fate?

Although I hope to be pleasantly surprised by any other outcome, I would wager the SCOTUS will simply turn a blind eye to the damning evidence they've been given and allow the citizenship question on the census form that will kneecap several states which will become underrepresented in the House and also take a hit regarding funding for multiple programs that are federally funded using the census data... particularly regarding education funding... thereby shifting the burden squarely onto the taxpayers in those states... California, Texas, New York, Florida, etc.

The SCOTUS has largely been ignoring the animus behind many of the decisions of the current administration and bowing to deference of the Executive Branch... to the detriment of the people.

At what point does the constitutional rights of "we the people" figure into a SCOTUS decision? Let's hope it's this issue or we're positively FUCT. <--- Surely if that guy has a right to be heard, so do we all. :)

not a-hole, unless that's short for anti-troll.

Well, I declare... somebody who knows exactly what he's talking about. How deliciously refreshing.

look it up. or better yet, put some pie in your pie-hole.

I know, right!? That same place from whence all his BS is pulled out. Do you think there's a big enough spoon?

source:
http://airshipdaily.com/blog/92620136-ways-to-fight-trolls-instead-of-starving-them

Man Boobz! Oh, this is priceless... a veritable cornucopia of facts... truly a must read.

Tag team! *laughs* :)

no need for the qualification, your comment is, what is it you say... dead-on-ballz-accurate?

@don,

some sort of experience in any field (be it politics, higher education, military or what have you) isn't necessarily the only way to evaluate its quality, but in most cases it is at least one of the prerequisites.

no, i'm not telling you to shut up, but it wouldn't do you any harm if you did, and might even help. one never knows when CW will decide to take his comment policy the way of barry ritholtz:

https://ritholtz.com/comment-policy/

JL

I didn't read this. You are hereby being given the full Elizabeth Miller now because I'm done with you on this. :)

Police Officer Michael Langsdorf
North County Police Cooperative, Missouri
End of Watch: Sunday, June 23, 2019

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13839e8d10b9303c8d9aee50576e15b15f4844be91d15073a21097a85b780c50.jpg

Wrong, just wrong on the running mate choice. But, let's save that robust discussion until after he wins the nomination.

Oh, no, I am correct about this VP choice, but perhaps we won't even have to discuss it. I hope we do, though.

Quick short discussion preview: It's 2020 in America; women are going to have to save our democracy, and women of color are the backbone of the Democratic Party. You can take that to the bank. :)

Insider Blows Whistle & Exec Reveals Google Plan to Prevent “Trump situation” in 2020 on Hidden Cam

Insider: Google Violates “letter of the law” and “spirit of the law” on Section 230
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/24/insider-blows-whistle-exec-reveals-google-plan-to-prevent-trump-situation-in-2020-on-hidden-cam/

Now you have GOOGLE who will simply anoint the candidate they want..

Troo..

Perhaps a more polite way of saying it would be:

Since you have neither the training, the expertise, the experience nor the education to render an intelligent response, perhaps you should remain quiet and be thought a fool rather then engage communication and remove all doubt.

Amounts to the same thing, I spose.. :D

Why do Democratic Party leaders keep backing bad candidates?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-bad-politics_n_5d0d43a3e4b0aa375f4c7974?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000016&section=politics

Why did ya put yerself thru this, Joe...??? :(

Rut Roh.. That's not gonna be good for Joe Biden...

Supreme Court rejects challenge to Trump’s steel tariffs, leaving them in place
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/24/supreme-court-wont-hear-challenge-to-trumps-steel-tariffs.html

Supreme Court sides with President Trump and the Trump/America haters LOSE...

AGAIN...

I believe what JL is saying is that if you don't have military service under your belt then, while you can make all the comments you want, the fact of your NON-service can be used to determine the validity of your comments or the weight they should be given.. Same goes for college education...

That's just my take on what JL may mean..

I could be totally wrong on that. It has been known to happen occasionally.. :D

I speak of service in the context of compulsory service.. Service that you sign a commitment to perform and you keep that commitment..

If there are civilian agencies that meet that criteria and they are in service of this country, then I would be all for allowing those to meet the Free College criteria..

i'm all for mandatory service, but it need not necessarily be military service. if by "indoctrination" you mean exposure to critical thinking skills, then sure. but as far as i know there's never been a correlation established between the quality of an educational institution and how liberal or conservative it is. by your service you've earned the right to comment on its usefulness relative to other career paths. however, those who have neither higher education nor service of any kind have no business commenting on the validity of either.

JL

This is a MAKE or BREAK week for Joe Biden..

So far, my predictions have all been dead on ballz accurate..

Sure hope I am wrong about this....

Of course, as you point out, the first step is to fix the shitty colleges..

Actual real-world learning, as opposed to the shit-hole Left Wing Indoctrination camps they are now..

It's not that it doesn't seem fair..

It ISN'T fair.. Period.. No way, no shape, no how is it fair..

But life isn't fair, so.....

As to the rest, I agree completely

A free shitty education IS a step up from a shitty education you have to pay thru the nose for..

But not if the goal is to provide worthwhile employment in the aftermath..

In THAT regard, a shitty education is still a shitty education...

My personal view???

People who want to go the college path?? 4 years mandatory service in the US Armed Forces.. Any college after that is paid in full...

Of course criminals don't want to declare themselves.. But any country would want to know who they are...

Again, I invite ya'all to look at the immigration laws in other countries..

It would be an eye opener...

That's true...

But it's acceptable because she says what most people want to hear...

Put her in a Pro-Trump forum and she wouldn't last a day...

Oh yea....

THAT will go over good with those Americans who worked their asses off to pay off their loans..

Will THEY get a refund???

This is the problem with Democrats and their ludicrous ideas... They don't think them thru...

Thank you..

he intended the census question to be "advantageous to Republican and Non-Hispanic Whites."

Actually, no..

It's the concentrating on voting age population would be advantageous to Republican and hon-Hispanic whites, according to Hofeller...

However Hofeller offers no supporting facts to support that claim. To me, it comes across as simply marketing tricks..

I don't see anywhere how citizenship question is tied to that marketing trick.. Granted I just perused the documents.. I may have missed it..

But I have to ask.. Don't you think Democrats use marketing tricks to augment THEIR voters??

As you pointed out with Gerrymandering, BOTH sides are guilty of it..

I would postulate that this is more of the same..

Finally, I would think that EVERY American would WANT a citizenship question on the United States census..

America First and all that.. :D

I'm heading into work... If I don't get to your response right aways, don't worry...

"If I'm not back in 5 mins....Just wait longer.."
-Jim Carrey, ACE VENTURA PET DETECTIVE

:D

valid point, the author was lazy and didn't post excerpts, as NPR did. it's kind-of a long read though. far too long and winding to post in an opinion article, but essentially confirms the factual basis for it. hofeller wrote that he intended the census question to be "advantageous to Republican and Non-Hispanic Whites."

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/06/730260511/redistricting-gurus-hard-drives-could-mean-legal-political-woes-for-gop

JL

Scott Jennings
Scott Jennings
That sentiment -- that voters should be thinking about themselves and their families when they vote -- is the key to illustrating how the healthy economy, which has blossomed on Trump's watch, has tangible effects on the lives of voters. While the media and Democrats will relentlessly focus on Trump and whatever they perceive as the outrage of the day, the President's idea to get voters to think of themselves is a way around the Trump treadmill we've been on for four years. It's a brilliant argument: All they care about is destroying me, and I just care about building your future.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/19/opinions/trump-reelection-campaign-kick-off-message-opinion-jennings/index.html

And this is why President Trump will win... Democrats are about nothing but hate and intolerance...

Those choice quotes have worked for a Dumbocrat in the past... :eyeroll:

And the ONLY Black Lives Matter terrorists rear their ugly heads again..

Of course, they don't have a SINGLE FACT to support their claim that this was not a good shoot..

The mere fact that Buttagig can't handle this proves he is not ready for the Presidency...

The rally was another gathering this week in the wake of Sunday’s shooting of Eric Logan, 54, by Sgt. Ryan O’Neill in the parking lot of the Central High Apartments. While responding to a call for someone breaking into vehicles, O’Neill confronted Logan, who reportedly had a knife. O’Neill shot Logan when he went toward the police officer, officials have said.

Shirley Newbill, Eric’s mother, asked Buttigieg and the city to act on her son’s death.

“I have been here all my life, and you have not done a damn thing about me or my son or none of these people out here,” she said. “It’s time for you to do something.”

The police DID do something. They defended themselves against a violent subject..

What these people need to learn is that it's THEIR actions that cause interaction with police..

If you attack a cop with a weapon, you are going to be shot..

It's really THAT simple...

I am at a loss to understand why these people can't understand such a simple concept...

Com'on, Russ.. I know you are on my side in this.. Why are you afraid to speak out???

I, for one, am looking forward to the coming civil war and some resolution.

Americans are leaving the Democrat Party in droves by the millions...

And, if Democrats start impeachment, which is likely, Independents will also leave the Democrats in the dust on their way to President Trump's camp...

Once again, the Dumbocrat Party will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2020...

That explains it all.....

But now is as good a time as any to solve the identity crisis in the party.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/06/23/democratic-party-civil-war-donald-trump-column/1525623001/

The problem can't be solved.. Because one part won't take back seat to the other part.. And ONLY one part can be in the front seat at a time...

It's either Party Purity or Electability... Dims can't have both..

And it's increasingly clear that Party Purity is running the show..

Just as I predicted it would..

So much for the claim that President Trump is LOSING support of the American people.. :D

It's long on high-winded accusations and hysterical conspiracy theories..

But it has nothing in the way of facts...

It says some conservative died, left behind a bunch of notes and these notes, according to the author say A, B, C, D and E

Why aren't the actual notes posted so the reader him (or her) self could see them and make their own mind up about what they actually say??

Because THAT would mean the reader would likely come to the conclusion that these notes don't say what the author says they say...

Sorry, JL.. But you appear to have nothing but another anti-GOP anti-Trump conspiracy theory with no facts to back it up...

The citizenship question in the census is a GOOD thing.. There is nothing nefarious about wanting an accurate count of who are American citizens and who are not..

Of course criminals don't want to declare themselves.. But any country would want to know who they are...

Well, it's a pretty good argument if the Democrats devour their best candidate.

Thank you, Liz.. It IS a pretty good argument when these Dumbocrat candidates do exactly what I predicted they would do...

That's the only argument needed..

Look at the facts..

What meaningful legislation has Democrats put out that made it to law???

NADA...

They were voted in on a platform of investigating Trump...

Have the talked to Barr?? Nope..

Have they talked to McGhan?? Nope..

Have they even talked to MUELLER who is their hero, their shining knight in armor?? Nope...

Have the even looked at President Trump's tax returns???

A really REALLY big NOPE...

To paraphrase Janet Jackson, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE FOR YOUR LATELY???

I won't even bother going into the FACT that Democrats in the House are supposed to work for ALL Americans..

But these morons you elected haven't even done anything for you Democrats!!

Your "wave" (BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) election of Dumbocrats has net'ed ya'all precisely DICK... :D

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/23/republicans-census-2020-election-gerrymandering

source:
http://airshipdaily.com/blog/92620136-ways-to-fight-trolls-instead-of-starving-them

So, you don't think that ANY of the remaining candidates can beat Trump? I disagree.

Balthy is right. There are several who could beat Trump. The 2020 Democratic ticket will be a tag team of exactly what we're seeing now. All they're doing is jockeying for position on a muddy racetrack.

I think this will be over in just a week.

Sounds about right. Remember Bernie unleashing his "women" on Joe in April before Joe announced? Did it hurt Joe? Nope. Because we all knew that about Joe already, and the people accusing him were being disingenuous and overblowing what happened. Every attack like this will do nothing more than make Joe stronger. EM, we already know that Joe is prone to gaffes. He'll be okay making whatever gaffes as long as his opposition is overblowing whatever the gaffe is... because we all know that about Joe already.

The only thing that can hurt Joe is a new revelation that he can't survive because it's a genuine "new revelation" versus an overblown political "piling on."

All this shenanigans needs to happen now. The more the better, in fact. Whomever survives it and wins the nomination will be toughened up. If Joe survives it, he should pick Stacey Abrams or Kamala Harris as his running mate, and full steam ahead to 11/2020. :)

I think this will be over in just a week.

And, then Booker et al. will find some other thing that Biden says to lie about.

They got nothing else on him?

I'm waiting for the first one of the candidates to say he voted for the war in Iraq and, in so saying, betray a fundamental ignorance on their part. Just like candidate Obama did when he first ran for president.

As for any of the others winning the nomination? Yes, I believe that Biden is the only one capable of not only beating Trump but of reversing course, domestically and internationally.

And, no, he most decidedly won't be the next VP or Secretary of State. Because, if he isn't the next president, Trump will.

Finally attuned to the issues, capable of being convinced??

When did this become a word?

That's your argument? Might as well post an image of a MAGA hat and say, "it's all there".

M Y...... A T T O R N E Y...... G O T...... A R R E S T E D
and imprisoned for following my orders ~ Individual 1

It's all there! :)

So, you don't think that ANY of the remaining candidates can beat Trump? I disagree.

The current flap over Biden's poor choice of metaphors is mostly about field position. Liberals have to have something to go after him with. Something to wake up the 'woke folk' who have too many demons already.

I think this will be over in just a week.

That's [Michale's] argument? Might as well post an image of a MAGA hat and say, "it's all there".

Well, it's a pretty good argument if the Democrats devour their best candidate.

Well, it's a pretty good argument if the Democrats devour their best candidate.

That's your argument? Might as well post an image of a MAGA hat and say, "it's all there".

If all of Biden's critics saw it that way, the right way, then we wouldn't have had two columns here about it arguing the opposite and we wouldn't have had Democratic candidates going around putting words in Biden's mouth and making outright false statements about what he said.

Your post at [200] was exactly what I needed to start my day! Thanks!

Somebody slept late. ;) *hugs*

[A] failure to understand what Biden said about boy and son (THAT THEY ARE BOTH DEMEANING TERMS, ONE USED FOR BLACK MEN AND ONE USED FOR A POWERLESS JUNIOR SENATOR FROM DELAWARE!!!...

"A powerless junior senator from Delaware" is hardly a powerless person in the big picture, so the comparison is a bit grating. That's one reason why this is considered a gaffe by many, myself included.

And there was just no reason for the comparison either - he could have dropped the whole "boy"/"son" rhetoric and made the exact same actual point (which I take to be: he found a way to work successfully with people who openly disrespected him and who were morally questionable; and he can do it again!).

I'll admit that it doesn't help that I disagree that his tactics would be effective in today's climate (or even that they were successful back then); but that part isn't a gaffe at all; that's just where the Senator and I have a difference of opinion.

… my cup runneth over. Psalms 23:5

this is a question every professor poses in every comparative religion 101 freshman seminar, at most universities.

Yes, sir, 100% correct.

many freshmen reach the same conclusion you have, for the same reasons. although some people do treat religion as if it were a science and atheism as if it were a religion, there are a few distinctions, as a result of which that conclusion ultimately fails to persuade most educated individuals.

Absolutely spot on, as is the post in its entirety.

I was hoping to God that somebody would come along and explain this better than I could, and "le voilà"... there he is. Anybody need anymore proof?

And now... time for peachy pie! :)

So what?

Their argument is also wrong.

How does this square with your nugget:

You don't get to define other people's choices to fit your desires. ~ Don Harris

They explain why they are wrong "Our sincerely held (lack of) beliefs" and then reach a conclusion that is just the opposite that it is not a religious belief.

No, they don't explain why they are wrong, and they most certainly don't mince words:

* Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion.

* This, again, does not mean that atheism is a religious belief.

A lack of belief in the existence of a god is a belief aboot the existence of a god is just as much a belief as a belief that a god exists.

Who said it wasn't a "belief"? Nice moving of the goalposts, Don. No one ever said it wasn't a "belief." We all said it wasn't a "religious belief." The atheists explain that it isn't a "religious belief" in multiple ways. The atheists' believe that atheism isn't a "religious belief," and according to you, you don't get to define other people's choices to fit your desires.

Just because someone (some people) starts an organization doesn't mean their definition is correct.
What they should say is: ...Our sincerely held belief that a god does not exist...

Said the guy who started an organization without any substantive evidence to support it who defines "Big Money" on his terms and accuses anyone who disagrees with his definition as "part of the problem" and providing "cover" for others who donate in an amount that doesn't meet his definition.

There is no way to prove or disprove the existence of a god so the only thing you can have is a belief on whether a god exists or not.

Wrong again, Don. You can also live happily in the knowledge that you don't know because you actually don't know what you don't know until you know it. :)

Too bad it was nothing but CNN bullshit.. :D

But, hay.. I am happy I am so much a part of your life..

The fact is, Trump is president and ya'll don't have a chance to beat him in 2020.. Especially since Dumbocrats are doing the damnest to implement the circular firing squad... :D

Your post at [200] was exactly what I needed to start my day! Thanks!

Occasional Cortex is REALLY a moron..