(BTW, where did she go? I'm starting to wonder if my joke about the inevitable wrist-slashing may have turned out to be all too prescient?)

United Kingdom, France... London, Normandy. Awesome trip.

The ignorance of the effing trolls on this blog is simply stunning and never ceases to amaze me. That the trollers buy "all in" to their oft repeated BS would be comical if it wasn't so pathetic. *laughs* :)

Liberal MSNBC hosts rip Pelosi’s call to jail Trump: ‘Stuff we used to see in Pakistan’

Melber asked if the counter argument would become, “Is this the Democrats' version of 'lock her up?'” The MSNBC host then said “there was a judicial, legal, process,” which “did not result in an indictment, whether you like it or not,” obviously referring to the Mueller report.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/liberal-msnbc-hosts-pelosi-jail-trump

And yet, ya'all are strangely silent when the Democrats put forth THEIR version..

Showing once again, how it is ALL about the -D/-R.....

Not so much "sensitive"..

It's like saying a US Marine is a "former" Marine.. Or a cop is a "former" cop..

"Being a cop is not what we do, it's WHO WE ARE.."
-James Woods, THE HARD WAY

Not as you hoped for anyways...

Let me put it this way..

If there ever is to be a one-world government, it will be as a center right with the US as it's model..

Ala the United Federation Of Planets

Not some left wing elitist cesspool with no values and no soul...

As a commissioned officer, my service is lifetime and the pleasure of the President Of The United States...

Oh, quite few...

Those who chewed dirt and blood under Commander In Chief Ronald Reagan don't have much respect for Obama..

He even had an Aircraft Carrier named after him..

https://tinyurl.com/y5mkqggw

That's true.. I don't.. I only have the patriotism that comes from being a soldier and airman and officer who served combat tours in two different branches of the US Armed Forces..

That goes for everyone, including the president.<

And yet no one here condemns anyone *BUT* the President..

Funny how that is, eh? :D

That goes for everyone, including the president.

We'll never know because there never has BEEN any...

Because you don't seem to see the harm that he is doing with respect to America's global leadership role.

No, I don't..

NATO is off it's ass and realizing it needs to do it's fair share... American PRIDE and American prestige are once again front and center..

There IS no harm being done to America's global leadership role..

Only in the minds of those who want to see America under President Trump fail..

I find that particularly disturbing at this moment as we commemorate the 75th anniversary of D-Day. I see all of the progress made since that time being dismissed or damaged by this American president.

And yet, it's President Trump who is coming across as a great statesman and people like Pelosi saying she wants her President in jail..

Used to be attacks like that stopped at the waterline when a POTUS was overseas

Not any more.. Democrats HATE Trump and so all the old rules are out the window..

Com'on.. Where is the sensible and rational and OBJECTIVE discussions about President Trump and politics??

I'm afraid that a sensible and rational discussion about President Trump and his administration is something that you would attack.

Because you don't seem to see the harm that he is doing with respect to America's global leadership role. I see his behavior on the world stage as slowly but surely chipping away at the institutions at home and abroad that have kept much of the world at peace for more than 70 years.

I find that particularly disturbing at this moment as we commemorate the 75th anniversary of D-Day. I see all of the progress made since that time being dismissed or damaged by this American president.

PARIS/COLLEVILLE-SUR-MER, France (Reuters) - President Donald Trump briefly set aside politics and his testy relationship with France’s Emmanuel Macron on Thursday, heaping praise on U.S. war veterans in a speech to mark the 75th D-Day anniversary and steering clear of issues that might rile Europe.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dday-anniversary-macron-trump/hugs-not-macho-handshakes-trump-shelves-politics-at-d-day-anniversary-idUSKCN1T71TM

President Trump... A true statesman....

You mean it's not like that now?? :D heh

Com'on.. Where is the sensible and rational and OBJECTIVE discussions about President Trump and politics??

"Benedict Donald"... "President Madman".... "Orange Cheeto"... "Justice Fratboy".... "Orange Leader"....

Surely those aren't the comments of "credible" people, are they??

They are the comments of partisan hacks...

Ya'all claim that Russian interference elected Donald Trump as POTUS..

FALSE

Maybe YOU aren't claiming that... And since you are not claiming that, then why do you consider your self part of "ya'all"???

But it's a bonafide fact that the vast majority of Weigantians ARE claiming that.. Just as the vast majority of Democrats are claiming that..

If you want calm rational objective discussions, the FIRST step is to accept reality as it really is...Not as you would wish it to be...

FALSE

If this place doesn't get a moderator and fast, it will lose all credibility and attract only partisan/political hacks.

And, that would be a shame.

Ya'all claim that Russian interference elected Donald Trump as POTUS..

I am simply asking for FACTS that probe this..

And you have none...

Complete and utter bullshit...

Yer a typical Trump/America hater..

You have to lie to make your case...

Or for Jill Stein. Or Gary Johnson. You can pick your poison. Particularly in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

And yet, you don't have a SINGLE SOLITARY IOTA of a fact that supports your claim..

Why is it ALWAYS that way???

Balthy seems to be claiming that Democrat voters are vain and hateful and don't have the intelligence to vote for Hillary even though she wasn't their chosen candidate...

As you and I have said many times..

They will blame everyone and every thing.. except for the person who was REALLY at fault..

Hillary Clinton..

Russ has a tendency to spew absolute bullshit without a single fact to back it up..

It's adorable.. :D

And by all means share these well documented cases that you are referring to!

Would it change your mind and cause you to concede the validity of the point??

Of course it won't..

So why should I bother??

PROVE that a Bernie Support stayed home or voted for Trump as a result of the Russia meddling...

You can't because you know you are full of shit..

Do you deny that the release of DNC emails triggered a backlash against Clinton from Bernie’s supporters? It doesn’t matter if you admit the truth or deny it....the fact is that Russian interference did effect the outcome of the election.

So, you are calling Odumbo Mueller and all of the rest of the Democrat minions liars??

Is THAT what you are saying??

Bullshit.. It passed thru ONE set of hands before Hillary picked it up.. They GOP'er figured it was simply too outlandish to be believable...

2. Among these was the FBI, which flagged it over to the counter-espionage unit. In a FISA warrent on Carter Page, they used information from the Dossier that turned out to be TRUE.

More bullshit.. Nothing in the dossier that was incriminating was true...

3. And it's amazing that so much of that Dossier, compiled of rumours as it was, was so correct. In fact, the parts considered "not substantiated" are also considered to be NOT UN-substantiated.

And still MORE bullshit.. Give me an example of something in the dossier that was incriminating and factually accurate..

How much of the criminality of Benghazi and Clinton's emails was "NOT un-substantiated"..???

If it weren't for double standards you would have no standards at all..

Take your meds. Just because no one in the bubble that you exist in know Bernie supports who refused to support Hillary does not mean they don’t exist! I know of over a dozen Bernie supporters that did not vote for Clinton...a few voted for Trump (never believing Trump was going to win), some voted for Stein, the rest just did not vote.

This is just one area that Russian interference benefitted the Trump campaign.

Or for Jill Stein. Or Gary Johnson. You can pick your poison. Particularly in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

"Third-party voters don't matter." say the losers, every time.

Bernie voters, the most rabid, most ideologically fixated of ALL Democratics, sufficiently mad at Hillary to cause them to vote for Trump???

Funnily enough, you took the words right out of my mouth … well, except for the 'Democratics' part. Heh.

Re: " . . which resulted in a large number of Bernie voters voting for Trump . ."

Bernie voters, the most rabid, most ideologically fixated of ALL Democratics, sufficiently mad at Hillary to cause them to vote for Trump???

You need to change your nom-de-keyboard to "Listen when yoU WRITE", for Gawdsake!! Try joining the world of reality someday! I don't even believe abstaining, much less "voting for Trump"

This also is well documented..

When do Republicans and Democrats say the same exact things while taking opposing sides in an argument?

And by all means share these well documented cases that you are referring to!

Except to cause a large division in the Democratic voting base by making the case that the DNC had somehow robbed Bernie Sanders of the nomination...which, in turn, resulted in a large number of Bernie supporters either voting for Trump or not voting for Clinton.

Do you deny that the release of DNC emails triggered a backlash against Clinton from Bernie’s supporters? It doesn’t matter if you admit the truth or deny it....the fact is that Russian interference did effect the outcome of the election.

1. The initial money paid came from Republicans, not Democrats. It passed through a lot of hands on the way to Hillary's campaign.

2. Among these was the FBI, which flagged it over to the counter-espionage unit. In a FISA warrent on Carter Page, they used information from the Dossier that turned out to be TRUE.

3. And it's amazing that so much of that Dossier, compiled of rumours as it was, was so correct. In fact, the parts considered "not substantiated" are also considered to be NOT UN-substantiated.

4. So bite me.

It's simply AMAZING how so many of the beliefs around here are based SOLELY on Democrat V Republican...

Been binge watching SLIDERS...

Imagine a world where there were no political Partys...

Paradise.... :D

Re: The notorious Democratic double standard that caused them to happily accept the 2018 election results in spite of Russian interfering, because they won.

How about the double standard of the Democratics having paid big money to solicit foreign-generated "dirt" on Trump from the British guy and his notorious "dossier", that turned out to be bogus?

How did that differ from Jr. offering to happily accept "dirt" on Hillary even though the "dirt" never materialized? Is foreign campaign help OK when it comes from England, but not OK when it comes from Russia, because we're still stuck in the 'Cold War' mentality?

Remember, we have fought two wars against England, but we've never fought a single war against Russia!!!

Yea.. Democrats can disagree on the issues w/o trading insults to character... :eyeroll:

There will always be the gullible fools who believe that Hillary Clinton headed a child trafficking ring from the basement of a pizza place or that Justice Kavanaugh was the ringleader of a child rape ring in high school or that President Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election.

Fortunately, fools like that are few and have minimal impact on the election process...

Because everyone here LIKED the outcome of the 2018 election...

It is solely and unequivocally ideological based "outrage"...

That is ALL it is...

It really isn't..

As is well documented, the Russian meddling had ZERO effect on the outcome of the election..

If this comments section doesn't come under some serious fact-checking and moderation, it will be in danger of becoming part of the problem.

The problem with fact-checking is who will check the fact checkers???

As we have seen, well known fact checking sites have a decided and obvious left-wing bent...

If a Democrat and a Republican says the exact same thing that is partially factual, the Left Wing fact check sites will say it's partially true when the Democrat says it and partially false when the Republican says it..

This also is well documented..

The Russians et al. have it so ridiculously easy.

If you think that the Russians are the only ones who try to manipulate elections, you are incredibly naive..

In the nicest way possible. :D

I say, keep the blog, nix the comments sections.

It just never ceases to amaze.

The Russians et al. have it so ridiculously easy.

Author Fran Lebowitz claimed “impeachment” was just the “beginning of what he deserves” as she fantasized that Trump would be turned “over to the Saudis” to be tortured to death.
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/geoffrey-dickens/2019/06/05/furious-celebs-want-trump-impeached-assaulted-and-tortured

Ahhhhh yes.. The peace and tolerance and love of the Demcorat Party..

:eyeroll:

What makes Trump so special as to draw your ire???

Facts to support your claim??

You can't claim "collusion" in the criminal sense because the ONE factor that defines collusion is completely unknown and unknowable..

What you call "collusion" is nothing more than normal interaction...

In your definition, EVERY POTUS has "colluded" with the Russians.. IN PLAIN SIGHT...

"Please relay to Vlad (Putin) that if he can give me some space to win my next election, I can be more flexible for him..."
-Barack Obama

Now THAT is pure, blatant unadulterated "collusion"...

Funny how no one here had ANY problem with it..

And, you know it.

He only did so after the DEMOCRATS cried collusion..

Of course, there was collusion, a lot of seen on live television for God's sake.

And yet, Mueller found no evidence to support the claim..

The problem is ya'all define "collusion" as anything Trump does that ya'all don't like..

So while you heard a lot of people say that there was collusion, most knew that collusion wasn't a crime and that proving conspiracy is not an easy task, as explained by the special counsel in his report.

And yet, many in this forum claimed up and down for YEARS that collusion WAS a crime and that Trump was guilty of it..

It took Mueller saying that they are full of kaa-kaa to realize that, all along, THEY were wrong and CRS and I were factually accurate..

To be clear, none of those people contribute here on a regular basis.

On this, you are factually accurate.. The *DID* contribute on a regular basis here, but once Mueller came out with his report that exonerated President Trump on Russia Collusion, they all disappeared..

Funny how that is, eh?? :D

Before I click on a link I need to know where it's going to take me.

To be clear, none of those people contribute here on a regular basis.

Then explain why we heard 95% "collusion" and 5% "conspiracy" from the hysterical Democrats, Never Trumpers and Trump/America haters since Nov of 2016???

Well, for starters, throughout Trump's time in office he has be consistently saying that there was, how does he constantly put it, oh right … NO COLLUSION!!

Of course, there was collusion, a lot of seen on live television for God's sake.

So while you heard a lot of people say that there was collusion, most knew that collusion wasn't a crime and that proving conspiracy is not an easy task, as explained by the special counsel in his report.

That about sums it up perfectly..

The impossible happened..

And those of weak wills and weak minds needed SOMETHING to blame it on because the FACTS were simply too hard to fathom..

Hillary was a shitty candidate...

The ACTUAL CRIME committed by the Trump campaign was winning an election that ALL the pundits, ALL the pollsters, and ALL the crystal ball gazers promised Kick that there was NOT THE SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY THAT HILLARY COULD LOSE!!

(BTW, where did she go? I'm starting to wonder if my joke about the inevitable wrist-slashing may have turned out to be all too prescient?)

Democrat v Democrat.. Civil War... :D

“Some Democrats in Washington believe the only changes we can get are tweaks and nudges,” said Warren, who dominated the weekend, including bringing 6,500 people to a town hall in Oakland on Friday night. “If they dream at all, they dream small. Some say if we all just calm down, the Republicans will come to their senses.”
https://prospect.org/article/california-democratic-hopefuls-counter-bidens-status-quo-politics

Biden ignores California at his own peril...

Trump supporter pops massive balloon depicting POTUS as baby at UK protests
https://www.foxnews.com/world/trump-supporter-pops-massive-balloon-depicting-potus-as-baby-at-uk-protests

I was thinking how awesome it would be if someone with a pair of scissors would take down that ballon!!

And lo and behold someone stepped up!! :D hhehehehehe

Poo' widdle Trump/America haters.. They got their widdle balloon popped.. :D

hehehehehehe Now THAT's funny..

Then explain why we heard 95% "collusion" and 5% "conspiracy" from the hysterical Democrats, Never Trumpers and Trump/America haters since Nov of 2016???

Ya'all were just pleased as punch with the word "collusion".... Right up until the point you were shown how full of bullshit ya'all were....

No Collusion.. No Conspiracy... No Crime Committed..

Ya'all lost..

"What are you still doing here?? It's over.. Go home... Go on..."
-Ferris Beuhler

Hate to burst your bubble, but that's what we've been saying on the left here for awhile.

Moose poop!! Moose poop, I tell you!!!

Ya'all were saying "COLLUSION" for YEARS..

Now that you learned that CRS and I were factually accurate the WHOLE TIME.... NOW you want to rewrite documented history so ya'all do look so silly and stoopid..

Sorry bub... AIN'T gonna happen..

Something similar happened in the national conversation about climate change, where scientists accumulated fact after fact, stacking the data in front of powerful people and hoping it would change the course of policy. Instead, the country ended up in a debate about what sound science is. In each case, debates over policy ended with scientists learning, to their dismay, that you can’t bring a fact to a philosophy fight.

I was berated MANY TIMES for claiming that 'colluding' to get "dirt" on Hillary could never be declared to be a criminal offense, and indeed, was told that the terms are essentially synonymous, which I actually agree with. I think trying to differentiate between 'collusion' amd 'conspiracy' is splitting hairs.

There was always one thing wrong with all of your claims that getting dirt on Hillary wasn't a crime - the all important context was never included in your claims.

It's bad enough that Team Trump knowingly and happily met with representatives of the Russian government, expecting to receive dirt on Hillary. They never told the FBI and they lied about it when they knew that Russia had interfered with the election.

What's worse, is that after all that has happened they might still do the same thing if they knew for a fact that the information they were seeking would be forthcoming.

That failure to learn important lessons, taken with everything else we now know, is nothing short of dangerous.

The difference between collusion, which Trump et al. clearly engaged in (not a crime), and conspiracy, which a preponderance of evidence was not, alas, sufficient to establish, is all laid out in the Mueller report in some detail,

Hate to burst your bubble, but that's what we've been saying on the left here for awhile.

One thing I noticed in particular was that in the opinion of the two moderators/hosts at least, Mueller declares in his first section that "collusion" is NOT EVEN A CRIME !"

Anybody here remember far enough back to recall where you likely heard that the very first time, and how you heaped scorn on that befuddled old geezer from whom you heard it?

(Sorry for the off-topic.)

That sure puts a low bar on it. Okay, let me play devil's advocate: the smaller states go first, to even out the outsize influence that bigger states ALREADY have in the general election.

Sounds to me as though California democrats want to control the primary from the beginning. Okay, but what you risk is getting a candidate who enthralls the California masses, but completely misses in the rust belt. You can insert your own warning here.

Unfortunately, the primary process was already broken, and what we need is a new compact, that gives back the early primaries to the small states, and makes the all the big states like Texas, Florida and California wait their turn.