If this was not the case, then Hillary Clinton would be guilty of treason and letting 4 Americans die a brutal horrible death...

The special counsel also said he found “insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy” on election interference.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mueller-first-public-statement-russia-135537084.html

How many different ways does it have to be said??

Democrats, Never Trumpers and Trump/America haters need to stop doing the bidding of Russia and Putin and just accept the facts and the reality..

An ignorant American public is a dangerous thing because it allow falsehoods to triumph over the truth.

And, if you don't think that's a problem, then you have no business commenting at this blog.

If they did, Democrats could not get away with the spin that President Trump is guilty of collusion..

:D

Low Information Voters.. Democrats' best friends..

Why is it a problem??

You can't charge a sitting President..

You have to remove him from office first..

THEN you can charge him...

That's why Clinton wasn't "charged" with Obstruction.. He was impeached for Obstruction. If it had been successful, then he could be charged..

Help me understand what Mueller meant when he said that charging Trump was not an option?

You are certainly right about that, Michale.

Anyone who has read the report or at least large portions of it (the summaries and introductions to both volumes) didn't need to listen to Mueller or to his potential congressional testimony.

The problem is that few Americans have read the read even the introductions and summaries contained within the report.

Mueller won't be appearing before congress..

**AS I PREDICTED**

Why would he do that?? Maybe he could do a speaking tour and read the report for those Americans who cannot red..

It's not his job to inform each and every American...

He investigated Russia Collusion. He determined that there wasn't any evidence to support the claim...

That is the beginning and end of the issue..

Assumes facts not in evidence..

It would also depend on how you define "colluding".. In this case, conversations and knowing looks constitutes "collusion"...

EVERY President-elect has talked with Russians..

**EVERY*** ***ONE***..

It's only an issue now because it's President Trump...

Oh, I expect he will testify before Congress, if only to reach Americans who have not yet read his report.

For all intents and purposes, Mueller has refused to testify before Congress..

Michale,

No other president or presidential candidate has ever colluded with a foreign adversary at a time when that foreign adversary undertook to systematically interfere in a presidential election, favouring one candidate while hurting another.

Only candidate and president Trump engaged in that despicable behavior. This context is unique to Trump.

Well, then it's a shame yer not running this blog..

My productivity would undoubtedly increase! :D

No, he said he would not say anything different than what is in the report..

So, there is no reason for Mueller to go before Congress unless they want him to simply read the report aloud..

OK People.. You heard it direct from Mueller..

Can ya'all finally concede the facts??? … Michale

NO COLLUSION....

Can ya'all finally concede the facts???

Mueller WILL NOT testify before Congress....

Sorry, Democrats..

You lose..

AGAIN.....

But, after Mueller speaks.

Explain the relevance on "context" in THIS issue and why you believe the context is not self-evident..??

Looks like Democrats won't get Mueller in front of them.. :D

Going to be interesting to hear what Mueller has to say..

He won't be taking any questions...

If that were factually accurate, then EVERY administration committed "collusion" when they were elected and prior to them taking office..

Simply talking to someone is not collusion..

If it were, Hillary colluded up the ass...

We're not talking about obstruction..

We're talking about Collusion..

Let's finish THAT topic before we move on to ya'all's 'whataboutism's...

This is not factually accurate..

At least with regards to the Mueller report and collusion in general goes, CRS has been dead on ballz accurate.. As have I..

And it's ya'all who have been completely and utterly wrong...

Welcome to Weigantia.. :D

It's hilarious that the hilarious "Collusioners" can try and claim that they never talked about Collusion... Never once said that President Trump was guilty of it..

A cursory examination of the Weigantian archives yeilds thousands and thousands of comments on how Trump is guilty of collusion and how he is going to be arrested and frog-marched out of the oval office. There are even numerous commentaries and Talking Points devoted to the idea that Trump is guilty of collusion...

"Wait til Mueller releases the report!! You'll see!! Trump is going to be prosecuted for collusion!!!".....

Was the consensus from the Weigantian Peanut Gallery..

And then Mueller releases his report and lo' and behold, completely exonerates President Trump of collusion with the Russians..

THEN the WPG chimes in, "Oh!! We never said ANYTHING about collusion!!! Collusion is not even a crime so why would we say anything about it!!!"....

Their feeble attempts to back-pedal and say that they agreed with me and CRS all along??

Laughable.. HILARIOUSLY laughable...

For the record of this blog, your comments here regarding the Mueller report, collusion, campaign finance laws, etc. have largely been false.

""We first describe the considerations that guided our obstruction of justice investigation, and then provide an overview of this volume:

"Given those considerations, the facts known to us, and the strong public interest in safeguarding the criminal justice system, we conducted a thorough factual investigation in order to preserve the evidence when memories were fresh and documentary materials were available."

Trump et al. had numerous contacts with individuals connected to the Russian government throughout at least 2016/17 which, along with certain actions with those individuals, constituted collusion. Once again, collusion is not a crime. Just bad behavior that Trump et al. consistently lied about.

Before, Mueller makes his statement later this morning, I wanted to post critical parts of his report having to do with conspiracy and obstruction.

First, critical parts of the report pertaining to conspiracy:

"Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived that it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

"We applied the term coordination in that sense when stating in the report that the investigation did not establish that the Trump Campaign coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

When you ask me why I keep using the term 'collusion', I have to wonder if you've been following this blog since Trump won the election???

I only got involved here because Kick and Co. started screaming "COLLUSION" at the top of their lungs five minutes after the last vote was counted, and when I promptly pointed out that despite any "feel good" type laws to the contrary, it simply CANNOT ever be considered realistic to think that ANY politician of ANY party cannot accept an offer of "dirt" info on his opponent, even if the "dirt" is defined as "a thing of value" and if it coms from Russian Commies, and all I got was a 2 1/2 year ration of ad hominem shit for my effort to try to inject some reality and common sense into their fevered brains.

So much for the claim that no one talked of collusion as a crime.. :eyeroll:

Hell, CW did MANY commentaries on Collusion.....

But NOW... Now that ya'all have been proven wrong and me and CRS were dead on balls accurate...

NOW ya'all are falling all over yerselves with your back pedaling and claims "NO ONE talked about collusion!!!"

:eyeroll:

Like I said.. The vast majority of the military are Trump supporters..

Have to wonder if the Leftist MSM would have been hysterical over the military wearing Obama inspired patches.. :eyeroll:

Too easy..

“did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
-Mueller Report

Dear God, what is it with you and Michale continuing to use that term when discussing the Mueller investigation when it has no legal meaning! Mueller did not exonerate Trump of collusion because he was never being investigated for “collusion”.

And yet, ALL of ya'all have been screaming hysterically about Russia Collusion since 20 Nov 2016...

Why have ya'all been using the term if it has no legal meaning??

Like Liz, you don't get to rewrite recent history because ALL of ya'all were wrong and me and CRS were right...

I won't let you..

Funny how Democrats didn't think so when Clinton was impeached for Obstruction..

Funny, eh.. :D

Collusion, as the Mueller report details, was not part of the investigation because it isn't a crime.

Oh, com'on Liz..

For over 2 YEARS everyone here was saying Collusion was a crime..

And Russia Collusion was the SOLE reason for the Mueller probe to begin with.

Ya'all don't get to change your tune just because reality proved ya'all wrong and me and CRS right..

Have said all of that, I think President Trump should be removed from office based simply on his interactions and relationships with some of this world's worst dictators.

That's your opinion and I respect that..

I also disagree and point out that Democrats can always impeach..

Why don't they??

Yes, he was..

“did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
-Mueller Report

Obstruction is a crime, and doesn't have to include any underlying crime. There's also the Stormy payoffs, which are a crime, but aren't mentioned in the Report.

And why didn't Mueller find him guilty of obstruction??

Because the facts didn't warrant it..

Duh..

Well, let's just say that there was clearly enough collusive behavior between Trump et al - a lot of it in plain public view. There just wasn't enough evidence, especially gleaned from witnesses who were just barely cooperating and could have been more helpful.

Again, Trump cannot be indicted while he is the sitting president...

Prove it. Where in the Mueller report does he say that he found Trump was not guilty on the charge of collusion? Where did Mueller say that the investigation did not find enough evidence to warrant an indictment on the charge of collusion?

You insist on being dishonest when discussing this topic, and personally I am tired of having to rehash this same dishonest argument / play on semantics that is the crux of your defense of Trump. Because your return to this same argument time and time again after it is totally refuted and debunked by multiple people here is proof that you are not interested in actually debating politics.

All you have left is obstruction.. Which is kinda laughable because ya'all are complaining about obstruction in the investigation of a crime that never happened and wasn't even a crime to begin with....

Wow! You are embarrassing yourself with statements like this. I realize that you were supposedly an MP while you served in the military and you were never a commissioned law enforcement officer for any state, but I am fairly certain that the military’s definition for what constitutes “obstruction” is stricter for those in the military than it is for civilians. That you are arguing that obstruction of justice does not matter since Trump was not charged just shows that you are not going to accept any evidence that shows Trump broke the law — no matter how compelling it may be.

The **SOLE** impetus for this probe was Russia Collusion...

Since President Trump has been fully and completely exonerated on that, pursuit of the other non-relevant issues is moot...

Nah, what is moot is believing that you are interested in discussing politics honestly. You are here to troll and personally attack everyone’s opinion on here to avoid having to discuss issues on their merits...because you know that you cannot defend Trump’s actions.

So where were you when I was trying to point out that fact for 2 1/2 yrs to all the other females here? I coulda used a little help!

Dear God, what is it with you and Michale continuing to use that term when discussing the Mueller investigation when it has no legal meaning! Mueller did not exonerate Trump of collusion because he was never being investigated for “collusion”.

And Liz’s definition is correct only if she is saying that “collusion” is not a crime as defined by law....not that none of Trump’s actions being lumped together and called “collusion” were illegal. Again, Trump cannot be indicted while he is the sitting president, so Mueller will not accuse Trump of committing any criminal act because Trump would not have the opportunity to defend himself in court.

Working with a foreign government to get them to hack into the emails of a political rival is against the law — Roger Stone can attest to that.

All you have left is obstruction..

Try to understand before one of us passes away, obstruction is a crime. It comes with strong penalties including jail time for a very good reason.

It also does not need to have been successful to be punishable - this is where Trump is in trouble since he left a witness trail of his illegal attempts at obstruction.

From the DoJ Criminal Resource Manual:

There is no requirement that the defendants actions have the intended obstructive effect. See, e.g., United States v. Murray, 751 F.2d 1528 (9th Cir.), cert. denied, 474 U.S. 979 (1985); United States v. Wilson, 796 F.2d 55 (4th Cir. 1986), cert. denied, 479 U.S. 1039 (1987).

Source: https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1729-protection-government-processes-tampering-victims-witnesses-or

Your clown is a crook as well. You just can't handle it. I can't say I blame you, you've invested a lot of your ego in this guy, starting right at the beginning when I told you he was a con man with very dodgy financial practices, but did you listen? No, and that is what happens when you don't listen to neilm, you end up supporting a clown and a crook.

;)

Re: "Collusion . . . isn't a crime. In this case it's just bad behaviour."

So where were you when I was trying to point out that fact for 2 1/2 yrs to all the other females here? I coulda used a little help!

Collusion, as the Mueller report details, was not part of the investigation because it isn't a crime. In this case, it's just bad behavior. That's why Trump et al. consistently lied about it.

Have said all of that, I think President Trump should be removed from office based simply on his interactions and relationships with some of this world's worst dictators.

The Helsinki press conference between Trump and Putin, in and of itself is grounds for the removal from office of this president.

Also: You're back, and more Trumpian than ever. Did'ja ever think that it's like hitting a brick wall?

Trump was exonerated on collusion and conspiracy..

Nope, he wasn't. But whatever..

All you have left is obstruction..

Obstruction is a crime, and doesn't have to include any underlying crime. There's also the Stormy payoffs, which are a crime, but aren't mentioned in the Report.

Then, of course, there's all of the stuff that he's doing RIGHT NOW to Congress, including the denial of rightful subpoenas. That's a crime, like it or not.

Our mob president. You like that, don'tcha?

The FACTS are clear.. I can point to half a dozen people who are NOT posting near as often as they did prior to the Mueller report...

They are embarrassed and I don't blame them...

And, to do that, you really do need to read the bit in the report about collusion and conspiracy.

Trump was exonerated on collusion and conspiracy..

All you have left is obstruction.. Which is kinda laughable because ya'all are complaining about obstruction in the investigation of a crime that never happened and wasn't even a crime to begin with....

The **SOLE** impetus for this probe was Russia Collusion...

Since President Trump has been fully and completely exonerated on that, pursuit of the other non-relevant issues is moot...

Yep, when the facts and reality is against ya...

The best thing to do for ya'all's mental sanity is to stick ya'all's heads in the sand... :D

Actually, Moron.. Since I have been RIGHT about everything Trump and ya'all have been WRONG...

I am the PERFECT person to comment.. :D

Now, THAT'S the way to do it!

Troll, you are the very last person who should be commenting on anyone’s credibility!

But, as usual, my comments are NOT a judgment on the actions of Odumbo OR President Trump..

My comments are on the fact that ya'all's condemnations are totally and completely one sided...

So, yer saying Austria is ALL of Europe..

Yea, you must have hit your head..

So, really, the message is: the far right is losing their momentum and backsliding in Europe.

Yea.. And Trump is guilty of Russia Collusion.. :eyeroll:

Once again, you simply CAN'T accept the facts and reality..

I had a great 3-day weekend. I went offline, had bar-b-q'd chicken, took a long bike ride, puttered around and generally decompressed. Catching up...

The far-right only did well in Italy and France - they tanked in other countries, and even in France they fell short of their proclaimed goal.

So, really, the message is: the far right is losing their momentum and backsliding in Europe.

I wanted to hate Discovery.. They way the launched it was so tone deaf to true Trek fans...

But I have to admit, it grew on me.. I ended up enjoying both seasons, in spite of my early reservations..

Word has it that Season 3 of STD is going to take place 950 years in the future where Michael ended up...

Looking forward to seeing the USS Relativity :D

Michale, as a guy who prides himself on being factual, you really must refrain from making non-factual statements like above.

And, to do that, you really do need to read the bit in the report about collusion and conspiracy.

But no one, least of all me, mentioned Austria. I was speaking to Europe in general..

Do you have ANY facts to tie a Trump supporter to the events you describe in Austria??

No you don't...

DO you have ANY facts to support your claim that Trump and Trump supporters are linked to ANY events going on in Austria AND in Europe...

No, you don't..

Ergo, this is just another attempt to throw a bunch of shit against the wall and hope something sticks..

Interesting info..

Since then, lots have happened. CBS and Viacom have apparently patched things up, but Bad Robot are still in charge, making stuff that matches the Kelvin timeline (like the abysmal Discovery). Picard falls into that category.

Except STD was not the Kelvin universe, it's the "real" (for lack of a better term) one...

I could forgive STD for their canon violations if it WERE the Kelvin universe..

Trouble is, that distributors still aren't sold on the new timeline, and big changes were done to bring Picard back into the trek world we all knew and loved. Bad Reboot, however, continues to insist on the Kelvin timeline. Not a single minute of the new series has been filmed yet, so there's still time to shelve the idea, boot Abrams, and make Picard's mission to save the entire series by undoing all the damage done so far.

hehehehehe.. Now THAT's funny..

I take it yer not a huge STD fan?? I think it's pretty good, but the Canon violations and their laughable attempts to cover/explain them prevents it from A)being great and B)being Trek...

You specifically mentioned AUSTRIA...

You do know that Austria is in Europe, right?

I mean, you know it is "Austria" not "Australia".

Let's get a grip here Michale.

Since then, lots have happened. CBS and Viacom have apparently patched things up, but Bad Robot are still in charge, making stuff that matches the Kelvin timeline (like the abysmal Discovery). Picard falls into that category.

Trouble is, that distributors still aren't sold on the new timeline, and big changes were done to bring Picard back into the trek world we all knew and loved. Bad Reboot, however, continues to insist on the Kelvin timeline. Not a single minute of the new series has been filmed yet, so there's still time to shelve the idea, boot Abrams, and make Picard's mission to save the entire series by undoing all the damage done so far.

"Where no producer has gone...before."

This is all getting so confusing.. :D

Just days later, New York Judge Edgardo Ramos, another Obama appointee, rejected Trump's request to block similar congressional subpoenas for documents from Deutsche Bank and Capital One, two financial institutions that have had dealings with Trump.

Notice the pattern???

ODUMBO judges...

Democrats claim victory as Trump gets battered in court

The decisions indicated that Trump will ultimately lose the fights: Both judges in the subpoena cases issued their rulings swiftly and decisively, underscoring the weakness of Trump's legal arguments.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/445498-democrats-claim-victory-as-trump-gets-battered-in-court

The decisions indicated nothing but the bias and the bigotry of Democrat judges...

Democrats said much the same things when the lower courts ruled against Trump with the "muslim" ban bullshit..

Democrats ended up LOSING when the case went to the SCOTUS.. So it shall be here...

The SCOTUS court is the *ONLY* court that matters...

Very similar to the dearth of comments in the aftermath of President Trump's election...

That's what happens when people confuse what they WANT with the reality and the facts..

All the facts that indicated Trump would be exonerated were there for all to see..

But there are none so blind as those who will not see...

The Democrat Comeuppance is at hand! :D

"RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!!"
-Montgomery Burns

:D

It's going to be glorious...

Thanos is a Democrat...

:D

Michael Avenatti's bad day: Disgraced lawyer to face not 1, but 2 arraignments
https://www.foxnews.com/us/michael-avenattis-bad-day-disgraced-lawyer-to-face-not-1-but-2-arraignments

You people sure know how to pick them.. :eyeroll:

So, you will concede that President Trump has been completely exonerated of Russia Collusion??

No, of course you won't..

Even though you claim that you admire and support Russia Intelligence by praising their intelligence in not involving Trump or his family, you STILL will hold onto the bullshit delusion that Trump and his family was involved with the Russians to win the 2016 election..

You see why no one can take you seriously?? You talk out both sides of your ass...

And you have absolutely NO FACTS to prove your claim..

Just your undying hysterical hatred of President Trump and America..

Remember, from day one I've said that Russian Intelligence are too smart to directly involve Trump or his family.

And then you contradicted yourself by claiming that President Trump is guilty of collusion..

Which is my point. You'll say ANYTHING against President Trump.. Even bullshit that contradicts all the other bullshit..

You have become a caricature.. A perfect example of what happens to normally rational and reasonable when they are consumed by hysterical hatred..

Don't be a supporter of Russia's "useful idiots" - it is bad for America.

Yes, the Democrat Party. Useful idiots of Putin..

I don't support them. You do..

:D Ouch.... That's gotta hurt! :D

Anyone here care to comment on this moron's claim??

Don't tell me.. Let me guess..

Now ya'all SUPPORT impeachment against President Trump, right??

Even though just a day or two ago, people here were claiming that impeachment is a bad idea..

Party Slaves thru and thru... :eyeroll:

Yea, but you also agreed with Neil about Russia Collusion and you proved to be WRONG..

So, why should ANYONE think you have ANY credibility???

Neil, did you hit your head or something??

You didn't mention anything about "Europe"..

You specifically mentioned AUSTRIA...

Once again, you prove you are so filled with hysterical hate, you can't think straight..

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Great posts! Very well said.

I agree with you that money laundering is where Trump’s biggest sins will be uncovered. As I said above, I think Barr was not allowed to know the details of counterintelligence investigation for a reason... the FISA courts could have sealed whatever findings the grand jury uncovered and Trump is running scared that those will only be unsealed once he is out of office and able to be indicted.

From day one you have been lying about me screaming about collusion.

Remember, from day one I've been pointing out the likelihood of criminal activity, in particular money laundering, the Trump is involved with.

Remember, from day one I've said that Russian Intelligence are too smart to directly involve Trump or his family. They are Russia's "useful idiots", and their supporters are supporters of Russia's "useful idiots".

Don't be a supporter of Russia's "useful idiots" - it is bad for America.

... 2 hours later ...

Any facts to support that Trump supporters know about this or give a damn about it??

Oops. It seems you do care about the far-right in Europe.

Any facts to support that Trump supporters know about this or give a damn about it??

No???

Of course you don't....

Yer like Blathy who screamed hysterically that Right Wingers were behind the MLK revelations..

And ZERO facts to support the claims.

Do ya'all HONESTLY see why it's IMPOSSIBLE to take ya'all seriously???

Because all you have is hysterical ranting bullshit..

Here is the story:

1. On May 17th, 2019 a video was released from a July 2017 meeting in Ibiza, Spain, appearing to show Strache and Johann Gudenus (leaders of the far-right Freedom Party, or FPÖ) accepting proposals from a woman posing as the niece of a Russian oligarch. Russia would provide the FPÖ with positive news coverage in return for business contracts. Strache and Gudenus also hinted at corrupt political practices involving other wealthy donors to the FPÖ in Europe and elsewhere.

2. The song "We're Going to Ibiza", a popular hit song by the Vengaboys from 1999, shot up the popularity charts in Austria (you just can't make this stuff up).

3. The far-right populist Party then blamed Israeli intelligence services for the sting.

4. The far-right Trumpistas have to choose between their populist Austrian hero or Israeli intelligence services.

So far they have been running and hiding, as expected.

From day one you have been screaming about Russia Collusion..

You have NO CREDIBILITY...

You are simply ruled by hate and bigotry..

Why should anyone believe anything you say???

Did he 'collude'? Certainly!

Did he 'connive'? Absolutely

Did he 'conspire'? Of course!

Did he 'cheat'? Definitely!

Did he obstruct justice? Definitely, we have 1/2 of the Mueller Report outlining the methods and attempts.

Did he appoint an AG to ignore the evidence and let him off the hook? Definitely!

Will the Democrats do their job and investigate his obstruction and other crimes? Yes, and that is what all the crying is about. He wanted it to be about "collusion" from day one and of course his minions followed along. From day one, I've pointed to money laundering and financial ties to Russian oligarchs and senior Russian officials. He even had a couple of them over to the White House after firing Comey because he thought that was going to end the investigations. He got that completely wrong.

There are plenty of areas of criminal behavior that Trump has been involved in, we just want to know if he has acted in a criminal manner - after all we had 19 investigations just into Benghazi!!!, it would seem unfair if we can't get at least one into each of Trump's possible crimes. And it doesn't matter any longer if the right wing think it is unfair when it happens to them, they don't get a choice.

This is the smartest thing that Nancy is doing. The criminal courts are far less likely to exonerate a crook that a hand picked AG and a bunch of cowards called the Republican Senate caucus.

Poor Liberals.. Their fantasy world i collapsing all around them...

Time to wake up and face reality, people..

President Trump is the future...

This is no reflection on their intelligence, abilities or achievements--many of them simply had no opportunity for education past secondary level, perhaps not past 14. When I first began work in Adult Education, I encountered quite a few adults whose education had been completely disrupted by the war and who had been neglected in over-sized classes afterwards because they kept quiet and didn't cause trouble.

While that may be true, it's also true that many people in here have commented on numerous occasions that Trump supporters are less-educated, IE stoopid...

That's the point I was trying to convey..

Even people born post-war were often expected to leave school at 16, go to work and contribute to the family income. Some of these went on to become successful and prosperous (not so many professions expected a university degree then, for that matter), but some did not. Those with family or friends to help get the first job would still do all right, but those who didn't were often effectively excluded from what they might have achieved with better education, whether university or not.

But a few newsreels from the 50s or 60s, or a look through popular newspapers or novels of the period, show something of the insularity of that life. Most people rarely encountered someone of a different nationality, religion, skin colour or even social background as a peer. (True of parts of the US as well.) I should say that I have learned this from people I know, as well as by having an interest in social history. I have also heard, from first generation immigrants from south Asia and the Caribbean, just how much hostility and misunderstanding they encountered, despite having been asked to migrate to the UK to fill undesirable jobs.

Of course someone from 'middle England' of those generations could travel, could encounter different people and different ideas, but they were more likely to do so as young adults if they had been to university or to a polytechnic.

Of course not.. Just as I don't believe President Trump is anything ya'all claim him to be..

Is that why you think he, among all of the other Democratic contenders, has the best chance of beating Trump?

Biden has the best chance of beating Trump because he is a stand-up guy who doesn't take himself too seriously..

Biden wouldn't have written off Michigan and Pennsylvania, thinking they were in the bag...

It's the very qualities of Biden that will prevent him from winning the Dem primary...

Is that why you think he, among all of the other Democratic contenders, has the best chance of beating Trump?

I will concede that Biden has the best chance to win of all the candidates.. Not that I think Biden WILL win, mind you, but it's the Democrat Party's best shot..

But Party purity will win out over electability....

Basically Trump is Clinton and whoever Dems run will be Bob Dole..

Biden will beat Trump or I'm ready to leave the planet.

Don't do that.. You won't be around to see me gloat!! :D

Oh wait! That is exactly what Trump doesn’t want! It would expose them as competent federal employees doing their jobs and allowing the evidence to guide their investigations.

Trump doesn’t want McGahn telling the world how scared and frantic Trump was, pissing himself at the thought of being exposed. Mueller wouldn’t say if Trump committed any criminal acts because doing so without indicting Trump would rob Trump of his ability to defend himself in court. That is most likely the reason that the actual counterintelligence report was not included in Mueller’s report to Barr.

Trump is getting desperate to distract the public from his shame being exposed...let’s just pray he doesn’t send us to war as a result!

Biden will beat Trump or I'm ready to leave the planet.

3 forecast modelers predict Trump will win in 2020

"Donald Luskin of Trend Macrolytics has reached the same conclusion in his examination of the Electoral College."
https://www.axios.com/trump-2020-presidential-election-forecast-models-b9a95aca-7f25-4c6a-af91-720b7828afa5.html

If Democrats had the sense that the gods gave cucumbers, they would cede 2020 and put all their energies into 2024 when they MIGHT have a chance...

It always cracks me up to see people tag on "less educated" to groups whose political persuasions they don't like.. :D

No one is surprised by older, less educated, relatively affluent white voters favouring Brexit, but so do some of the impoverished areas that have received substantial funding from the European Union. I'd put the chances of a future Tory government ever even attempting to make up the difference, certainly in the post-industrial areas, as somewhere between minuscule and none. That probably goes for rural areas as well, at least for the rural poor rather than affluent landowners and retirees.

heh

Did he 'collude'? Certainly!

Did he 'connive'? Absolutely

Did he 'conspire'? Of course!

Did he 'cheat'? Definitely!

Did he break any laws? Well, Mueller says apparantly not, but WE DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE MUELLER, because 1 1/2 % of his report was redacted!