I mean, seriously.. Why do ya'all want to relive it day in and day out???

"Such masochistic tendencies could indicate a deeper mental disorder."
-Spock

And yet, several indictments WERE handed down.. So your claim is not factually accurate..

And the FACTS clearly show that the evidence led him to the conclusion:

“did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

This is fact and you can't handle that.

We do not know if Barr shut him down or if he had reached the end of the investigation.

Yer right.. You DON'T know.. Yet you claim it's the former without ANY facts to back it up..

As to whether investigators missed anything..they missed questioning Trump and his family.

Again, you ASSUME that.. Without ANY facts to back it up..

Since Mueller is a Democrat hero and ya'all sung his praises on a daily, if not hourly, basis if Mueller needed to depose Trump or his family to make his case, he would have.

IF there was a case to be made..

But Mueller stated CLEARLY that there was no case to be made..

“did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

When all the hysteria is said and done, when all yer spin in spin'ed out, one fact remains..

In the contest of Russia Collusion between President Trump versus the hysterical Democrats, Never Trumpers and Trump/America haters....

Ya'all LOST...

Fini...

1. Despite having complete carte blanche, an unlimited expense account and unlimited time, the very highly motivated investigators missed something conclusive...

Mueller was missing the authority to indict all involved parties if that was where the evidence led him. Mueller also had to stick to the guidelines laid out by the Asst. AG as to what the Special Counsel’s duties were.

And who said he had unlimited time? Barr became AG and immediately after that Mueller closed shop. We do not know if Barr shut him down or if he had reached the end of the investigation. It is strange that there were 13 other investigations related to the Special Counsel’s work that were redacted as on-going cases.

As to whether investigators missed anything..they missed questioning Trump and his family. Trump should have been subpoenaed to answer questions, and if he weren’t the sitting president he most likely would have been.

And then again, he may NOT.. :D

Do you HONESTLY believe that 2 years and 35 million dollars that the Mueller cabal just didn't look hard enough!??

I mean, let's employ some logic here..

Which is the more logical assessment..

1. Despite having complete carte blanche, an unlimited expense account and unlimited time, the very highly motivated investigators missed something conclusive...

OR

2. There was no Russia Collusion... It was all just a sore luser excuse from a candidate and a Party who simply refused to accept the loss..

Employ Occams Razor.. Which of those 2 possibilities are the most likely..

Think like a rational objective person, if you can..

And the whole issue is clear..

You need to face reality..

Nothing was found because there was nothing TO find...

Late night party?? :D

No, he said "did not establish". That's different.

Not when you consider Mueller had carte blanche, an unlimited bank account and a cabal of VERY HIGHLY motivated investigators who really REALLY wanted to find something.. ANYTHING..

Give those FACTS, if Mueller couldn't establish any facts it's because there were no facts to support the accusation..

Moreover, I'd like to know whether he was told, "your investigation is over", or words to that effect.

I would also like to know if Mueller is Klingon.. But since there are NOT FACTS to support that, it's not really relevant, is it..

Get some sleep.. Rest up.. Yer gonna need it. :D

Mueller stated specifically that there was NO EVIDENCE..

No, he said "did not establish". That's different.

He was never able to interview Trump or the Trump family, or (I think) Roger Stone or Julian Assange.
Moreover, I'd like to know whether he was told, "your investigation is over", or words to that effect.

And yet, Mueller stated specifically that there was NO EVIDENCE..

“did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

Look, I get it.. You banked your heart and soul on Mueller...

You lost and it's hard to accept..

I get that.. I felt the same way after Hillary escaped justice on the 4 Americans killed on her watch...

But I ACCEPTED the facts...

That's what you simply cannot do..

You lost and you can't accept it..

And here we are...

This is why you always lose these debates..

Because you are hysterical and never have any facts to support your hysteria..

And yet Mueller said this:

“did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

To conspire and coordinate with the Russian Government is collusion..

There were no FACTS to support the claim that Trump or the Trump campaign colluded..

That's the fact that NO ONE here (sans myself, CRS and JL) can accept..

In other words, Trump is caught between collusion and conspiracy. Clearly, not a good place to be.

A prosecutor declining to indict because they believe that there is not enough evidence to successfully garner a conviction for the charge of conspiracy/treason is not the same as saying there was ”NO EVIDENCE” that any criminal action took place!

Mueller does a very good job of detailing how Russia interfered in our election, but it has become fairly clear that he did not conduct a counterintelligence investigation into Trump’s relationship with Russia. We know that the FBI had started a counterintelligence investigation into this matter prior to Mueller being brought on as the Special Counsel, but there has not been any update on where the investigation is to date. It makes sense on one level...if the DOJ will not indict a sitting president for obstruction of justice, then if they had found evidence that Trump committed crimes on Russia’s behalf, all that reporting it would accomplish is to give Trump notice — allowing him to pardon everyone involved before they can ever face a jury of their peers.

And Mueller listed over 160 contacts with Russians that Trump and his campaign all lied about. Mueller never questioned Trump directly. It is not easy to determine intent if you never ask about it. That being said, Mueller found plenty of evidence that completely justified the investigation into Trump’s campaign; regardless if he found enough to warrant an indictment!

michale may have some vocabulary issues, but as kick clarified, the crime donald was being investigated for was not "collusion," it was conspiracy, which is definitely a crime. given the potential co-conspirator was a rival country, it could have even been called treason, if true. but there's no evidence that it was true, so what's left is essentially obstruction of justice to cover-up a crime that either was completely unrelated to russia, or didn't exist at all.

JL

It can be that way again once ya'all concede that ya'all are not always right and those who disagree with ya'all are not always wrong..

Funny, no one on here crows that they are always right...except for YOU!

Also, most of us here do agree that we can disagree and that does not necessarily mean the other person’s views are wrong....except when they are.

Like when you make comments like:

That's been his plan since the Mueller report totally and completely exonerated President Trump over Russia Collusion..

Cannot exonerate someone for a crime that doesn’t exist and that Mueller took the time to explain was not part of the investigation. Of course you know this, but you still claim, “Mueller did not find any evidence that Trump had committed collusion with the Russians,” because honesty means so little to you.

Trump is traitorous scum that you defend willingly. I would say that you “blindly” support Trump, but that is not true — you see what the truth is , but you choose to defend him, nonetheless. You demonstrate the type of loyalty that Trump would love...but would never reciprocate!

But I also despise Democrats who think it's perfectly OK to murder an unwanted baby that survives an abortion attempt..

I despise anyone who thinks it’s perfectly OK to murder an unwanted baby that survives an abortion attempt!

Your comment shows us two very important things:

1) That you failed to state that you despise Republicans who think it’s perfectly OK to murder an unwanted baby that survives an abortion attempt.

2) You have NO IDEA how the procedures used by doctors to perform an abortion work!

Just a hint: They don’t perform a C-section to remove a fully formed miniature baby from the woman’s belly!

There are no babies involved. If the fetus is able to survive outside the womb, then it wasn’t an abortion, it was a pregnancy. Killing a baby that is alive is murder, and we already have laws covering that.

How many Trump/America hating judges have LOST when Trump won at the SCOTUS??

Dozens...

The SCOTUS ruling is the ONLY ruling that matters.

Your ability to re-write history is truly amazing.

Do you deny that Odumbo expanded Executive Orders to un-matched heights???

Talk about re-writing history... :eyeroll:

If this commentary thread was a formal debate??

You would have lost 20 times over... :D

Your ability to re-write history is truly amazing.

That's TWO judges, so far. You're losing.

Better luck tomorrow.

Trump/America hating terrorist Dumbocrats...

'nuff said...

President Trump gives the finger to Trump/America hating Judge..

SCOTUS backs President Trump..

Ya'all LOSE...

AGAIN....

Why not?? Odumbo did..

And ya'all didn't have a SINGLE problem with it..

Yeah, you guys are gonna make a mess of it alright.

Yea?? You have been saying that since Nov of 2016..

Ya have ***ALWAYS*** been wrong..

ZERO credibility...

Not a good day for the criminal-in-chief.

[45] Balthsar: Yep!

See?? Ya'all picked the porn star Stormy Daniels as ya'all's hero... Then ya'all picked Porn Star lawyer Avenatti as your hero..

Ya'all have been LAUGHINGLY wrong and each and every juncture..

Ya'all lose each and every time..

I guess so. It's blown your math to hell.

TRUMP won. And THAT is what you refuse to accept

Yeah, but then what? Are we supposed to bow?

You have no credibility

Odd thing to hear from a Trump supporter.

Why is it OK for ya'all to do it but not for President Trump to?

Yeah, you guys are gonna make a mess of it alright. Oh well, have to fight that fight when we get to it.

I think He's harassing them. He wants the country to run as a dictatorship, but doesn't have the tools for it. As a result, nothing gets done.

Nothing got done, by the way, when Republicants ran the House either.

And all that McConnell can do is vote on judges.

Trump can't continue to run the country by executive fiat forever.

Com'on... Considering he had a 98%!!! chance of losing..... If he lost by 50% it would have been a MIRACLE..

The fact that he WON is mind blowing..

Which explains your brain-addled thought process.. :D

Yer right.. This IS fun.. :D

. I think Bannon said they "drew to an inside straight" to win it last time.

I drew a Straight Flush (diamonds) our last poker night.. Cleaned up against a guy who had an inside straight.. :D

I won.. THAT is all that matters..

TRUMP won.. And THAT is what you refuse to accept..

Go ahead.. Prove me wrong..

Concede that President Trump is the fairly, freely and legally elected President Of The United States...

20,000 Quatloos says you can't do it..

50,000 Quatloos says that only 4 people here in Weigantia can do it..

So I'd say 'landslide' is a stretch.

Of course you would... But you said that Russia Collusion was a sure thing..

You have no credibility..

I DO worry, though, that he'll dispute the election if it doesn't go his way. That's very possible.

You mean, like ya'all have done???

Why is it OK for ya'all to do it but not for President Trump to???

Cmon, he got in by the skin of his teeth the last time. I think Bannon said they "drew to an inside straight" to win it last time. And he hasn't made any new friends since getting there (that you'd want in your house, anyway). So I'd say 'landslide' is a stretch.

I DO worry, though, that he'll dispute the election if it doesn't go his way. That's very possible.

Yea, but it was a lot more fun before..

Trump, not so much. He looks so small in the Rose Garden, bickering with Democrats when he should be running the country.

As opposed to Democrats who should be helping the country but all they can do is harass the freely, fairly and legally elected POTUS...

Don't worry.. It will be better in 2020.. Trump is re-elected in a landslide and Democrats will be even MORE demoralized and decimated than they are now..

Trump, not so much. He looks so small in the Rose Garden, bickering with Democrats when he should be running the country.

Shame.

It can be that way again once ya'all concede that ya'all are not always right and those who disagree with ya'all are not always wrong..

But, with a few notable exceptions, no one here can concede that they are wrong..

Absolutely nothing..

As she has proven time and time again.. :D

So, you concede you have no facts, that it's just some Left Wingers hysterical opinion..

I accept your concession..

The walls are closing on Trump.

AGAIN!??? You have said that a dozen times before..

You have always been wrong..

That's what you get when you ask for facts about an opinion.

The walls are closing on Trump. Once he shuts Congress completely out, watch the money dry up.

Just (finally) read a run-down of Trump's faux "explosion" in the rose garden. I say "faux" because Presidential snits don't come with pre-made signs.

Apparently, Trump just doesn't want to play ball with Congress. As I've said, that's because he doesn't understand what Pelosi can do TO him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/07/first-hold-them-contempt-then-impeach/?utm_term=.779e3d932524

I ask for FACTS and you give me WaPoop OPINION...

No wonder you people can't ever win.. Out there or in here..

:eyeroll:

I expect Treasury to do the same.

Yea, you expected Trump to lose the election..

You expected Mueller to find Russia Collusion....

Eventually you will realize that your expectations are NOTHING more than wishful thinking...

Sorry I am being so rough on you and Paula.. I am watching DIVERGENT and it's pretty kick ass :D

The Alabama bill goes much, much further. You could leave Roe alone and fix what you've said here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/07/first-hold-them-contempt-then-impeach/?utm_term=.779e3d932524

Suddenly, as Paula said, the DOJ is playing (soft)ball with Congress. Contempt seems to focus the mind.

I expect Treasury to do the same.

Actually I despise religion likely more than you do.. It's the root cause of untold human suffering for thousands of years..

But I also despise Democrats who think it's perfectly OK to murder an unwanted baby that survives an abortion attempt..

Until then, it's the woman's choice.

The woman made the choice when she decided to participate in an activity that has the possibility of pregnancy..

What she is doing now is simply murdering a baby because she can't handle the consequences of her choice..

Yea.. something to cheer about :eyeroll:

But it's NOT infanticide, and your religious nuts can't seem to grok that. "Fetal Heartbeat" isn't even a thing before 10 weeks, and then, it's only plumbing.

Roe was decided correctly. The Court said, "when the child is viable (able to live outside the womb without assistance), then it's our problem. Until then, it's the woman's choice. That's reasonable.

Yea, but you imagined that Trump would be frog-marched from the Oval Office after Mueller found facts to support Russia Collusion..

I know, I know.. Imaginings are fun...

I prefer to deal in FACTS...

Got any???

He played along for a minute, but Congress is talking about impeaching him.

Facts to support??

Regardless, impeachment has been a wet dream of Dumbocrats since Nov of 2016..

Of course, they don't have the BALLS to actually do it..

YOu mean, the one like Odumbo's moron AG got??

Actually, the memo didn't say that...

But why let FACTS ruin yer perfectly good hysterical ignorance..

Like I said..

Taking up impeachment right now is a BAD idea and only a moron would think that impeachment now is a good course of action..

Is that an accurate assessment of your thought process in the here and now??

You know, you CAN agree with me.. Your soul won't turn to fire if you do.. :^/

I think that one poll had support for Roe at 80%.

Yea, it was a DailyKos poll...

Hey... If you want to support infanticide, fine..

Just don't expect me to applaud you for it..

It's about time that it was codified into constitutional law, so that these challenges can end.

Codify what?? That all life is precious and has the right to liberty and pursuit of happyness???

I think it's already in there..

Dumbocrats are trying to take it out...

There's a good time for impeachment, we just haven't reached it yet. Patience, grasshopper.

Say good-bye to Roe V Wade...

Got any idea just how UN-popular that point of view is? (Outside the deep south, natch.) I think that one poll had support for Roe at 80%.

It's about time that it was codified into constitutional law, so that these challenges can end.

But he's sweating.

Apparently Barr is going to allow DHS to give Schiff background material they wanted in exchange for not being held in contempt a second time. We'll if he delivers satisfactorily.

Mnuchin lies about IRS memo which concluded IRS must provide DJT tax info to Congress. Mnuchin says "no it doesn't" and Congressional Dems must now respond. Another contempt citation?

OK, so you agree with Pelosi..

Taking up impeachment right now is a BAD idea and only a moron would think that impeachment now is a good course of action..

Is that an accurate assessment of your thought process in the here and now??

And I'd like to thank the Alabama Legislature for putting Abortion on the ballot.

It was...

Say good-bye to Roe V Wade...

No more baby killing after birth for Dumbocrats..

Good move!

Well, you've drunk the Kool-Aid. Trump is Kool with you. Got it.

I'm with Pelosi. We're winning. As long as we keep winning, there's no need to impeach, 'cause in a very short time, the American people are gonna send his fat ass back to his NY penthouse.

Glad to see you acknowledge the fact that the SCOTUS will be President Trump's saving grace...

:D

There is hope for you yet.. :D

What's your position??

Start impeachment or wait??

I did!?? Where?? :D hehehehehe

Chris is stating the obvious. Trump has no timeline, and no grand strategy, save to save his own neck.

With absolutely NO FACTS to back it up..

It's all mind-reading...

And so far, the Courts haven't been very good to him.

That is simply not factually accurate. The *ONLY* court that matters is the SCOTUS and the SCOTUS has been VERY good to Trump.. Hell, even the LIBERALS on the court sided with Trump over the Native American case..

And he's planning on a 100% win rate, too. Whew! That's playing chicken on a big scale.

And it has served him so well since Jun of 2015...

Indeed, save for SCOTUS, it's expected to go very badly for him. Is he planning to kick everything - all 20 cases so far - to that court?

Why not? It's where he ALWAYS wins.. The latest win is the Native American case that you so graciously brought into the discussion. :D

Further, his polls are dropping, making it a harder and harder position to take politically.

Only over the past few days.. In the few days before THAT, his poll numbers were striking..

Funny how you only believe the polls that say what you want to hear. :D

The American people can be foolish, but they're not fools. Sooner or later, it's time to leave the sandbox, wash our hands, and be decent folk again.

Yea, you have been predicting that for over 2 years.. One of these days ya actually MIGHT be right..

But what do we say to the god of death??

"Not today.."

He's even made it far easier to talk impeachment, with his shenanigans.

OF COURSE he has made it easier to not only TALK about impeachment, but actually easier to consider to do it.

That's been his plan since the Mueller report totally and completely exonerated President Trump over Russia Collusion..

And, as usual, Dumbocrats are falling for it hook line and sinker!! :D

Gods what a genius President Trump is!!! :D

Chris is stating the obvious. Trump has no timeline, and no grand strategy, save to save his own neck.

And so far, the Courts haven't been very good to him.

Indeed, save for SCOTUS, it's expected to go very badly for him. Is he planning to kick everything - all 20 cases so far - to that court?

And he's planning on a 100% win rate, too. Whew! That's playing chicken on a big scale.

Further, his polls are dropping, making it a harder and harder position to take politically.

Folks like a good fight, but when it starts to hit their pocket books, they tend to start paying attention. Unlike him, China's been picking winners and losers, and have decided that the midwest is their target. How long are soybean farmers gonna hold on for the great negotiator?

All this, and he's only about halfway through his first term. Sure he's thrown up some walls, but they're made of sand, and already crumbling.

The American people can be foolish, but they're not fools. Sooner or later, it's time to leave the sandbox, wash our hands, and be decent folk again.

He's even made it far easier to talk impeachment, with his shenanigans.

Yea.. Gods forbid they should actually be exposed to relevant FACTS....

Their whole world will be torn asunder...

I just watched the two-part Mark Steyn interview with George Papadopolous about his experiences with the Mueller investigation. VERY interesting and informative!

I'd recommend that Kick and her cohort do the same, but I'm only too aware of their reluctance to be exposed to anything that isn't confirming their political biases.

It wasn’t the results they were expecting, and it suggests current thinking about race and prejudice is all wrong.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/study-america-less-racist-in-trump-era/

Once again.. Conventional "wisdom" says one thing...

But the FACTS say quite another..

Yea.. They had a "timeline" on Russia Collusion..

"All we have to do is wait for Mueller to finish his investigation and we'll get out answer.. Trump will be frog-marched from the Oval Office.."

Well, they got their answer..

They didn't like it..

So, their strategy is to do the same exact thing over and over and over and over again, hoping for a different result...

The very definition of insanity...

I said it in 2016 and was proven right... :D

I'll say it again...

Pennsylvania is a MAGA State.. :D

President Donald Trump vs Joe Biden..

The BATTLE OF THE RALLIES...

Biden had about 220 attend his Pennsylvania rally..

President Trump had 10,000 (capacity) inside and a few thousand outside watching on the monitors.. :D

Guess we know who won.. :D

But like politicians of both right and left, good ol’ Joe doesn’t necessarily mean the harsh things he says. He doesn’t always take what he says seriously, and you shouldn’t, either. In the first of his three races for president, he ran as the son of a Welsh coal miner, having picked up a copy of a speech by a British politician who really was the son of a Welsh coal miner, and without paying close attention to the printed page, that’s what he said he was, too. Father and son had actually never been closer to Cardiff or the Vale of Glamorgan than Scranton or Wilkes-Barre.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/may/20/joe-biden-uses-empty-rhetoric-in-2020-presidential/

I have always liked Pruden.. A crusyy old journalist who doesn't mince words... :D

This was a curious enough strategy, bewailing the demonization of an opponent by demonizing an opponent.

hehehehehe

"It's funny because it's true..."
-Homer Simpson

The New Right Is Beating the New Left. Everywhere.

Sometimes political revolutions occur right before our eyes without us quite realizing it. I think that’s what’s been happening over the last few weeks around the world, and the message is clear: The populist “New Right” isn’t going away anytime soon, and the rise of the “New Left” is exaggerated.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-05-20/australia-election-is-not-the-only-one-the-new-right-is-winning?srnd=opinion

Sound familiar??? :D

A shocking election upset has confused Australians searching for answers.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/australia-election-upset-scott-morrison.html

Trumpism happened, baby!! :D

People are getting sick and tired of Left Wing politics and policies.. :D

Looks like President Trump's approval rating has taken a hit..

The huge uptick I crowed about last week has been erased.. :^/

Oh well, it will bounce back up once Trump gets more SCOTUS wins under his belt...

Democrats piling on Joe Biden...

Almost makes me feel sorry for him..

He's a good man, but has said some awful things..

He doesn't deserve what's going to happen to him..

Dumbocrats can't get Mueller...

Dumbocrats are Old Mother Hubbard and they got ZILCH in their cupboard!!!

BBWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOITkxy18dY

A growing number of rank-and-file House Democrats, incensed by former counsel Don McGahn’s empty chair in the Judiciary Committee hearing room, are confronting House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and pushing her and other leaders to act. Their impatience is running up against the speaker’s preference for a more methodical approach , including already-unfolding court battles.
https://apnews.com/6384c08d99de4bfa982cdd5065f63434

Yea, Balthy.. I am trying to goad Dumbocrats into impeaching President Trump..

And, apparently, my efforts are bearing fruit..

But you and I both know that it would be a mistake for Democrats to impeach President Trump..

It would virtually GUARANTEE President Trump's re-election.. Even more so than it is ALREADY guaranteed..

Dumbocrats were given the House to GOVERN.. To LEGISLATE... But all they have done of any consequence is to harass President Trump and preside over witch hunt after witch hunt after witch hunt...

So, go ahead, Dumbocrats..

Impeach President Trump.. I DOUBLE DOG dare ya!! :D

From a previous commentary..

i accept the definition of the term you provided, but not the "completely and utterly exonerated" claim.

I know.. You want to say TOE-MAY-TOE and I want to say TOE-MAA-TOE...

But we're still talking about the same thing (President Trump is innocent of Russia Collusion) so it doesn't bother me we don't agree on the terminology..

as i mentioned earlier, the lack of evidence to confirm that a crime is committed is not the same as the presence of evidence that a crime was not committed.

IOW, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence..

All things being equal, I would agree with you.

But in THIS case, a case that spanned almost 2 years with a VERY HIGHLY motivated cabal of investigators who were VERY HIGHLY motivated to find SOMETHING... ANYTHING and who had unfettered access and a blank check???

In THAT case, it's clear that absence of evidence IS evidence of absence...

Put another way..

If you were in a very large building looking for a dog or any evidence of a dog and you had 2 years to do it and unlimited funds and had a team of dog-loving experts and you couldn't find ANY evidence of ANY dog....

It's pretty conclusive that there was no dog..

at least in theory, new evidence could someday be uncovered that would justify filing charges of conspiracy.

That is addressed by the fact that everyone here over the span of two years stated how thorough and professional and competent Mueller is..

So either they all lied then or they all are lying now..

PLUS the fact of the very highly motivated cabal of investigators brings us back to the Search For The Dog analogy...

So, while I would agree with you that, IN THEORY, new evidence is out there, given the facts that possibility is virtually nil..

therefore the exoneration is partial.

Any exoneration, even a partial one is still miles and miles away from Blathy's and Russ' claim that Trump is GUILTY of Russia Collusion...

"Good talk.."
-Rodney McKay, STARGATE ATLANTIS

TRUMP IS TOAST PREDICTION #1,756,359

The first of many judicial decisions to come on Trump's stonewalling was handed down yesterday. The federal judge ruled on a case where Trump is suing to quash a subpoena for his financial records, which was issued to his accounting firm. The judge essentially laughed out of court the arguments made by Trump's legal team, and for good reason. Team Trump was arguing that, constitutionally, Congress can only legislate -- make laws, that is -- and that they really have no right to investigate a sitting president at all. Investigating the president furthered no "legislative function," Trump's lawyer's argued, therefore no such investigation was legitimate or constitutional. Trump's lawyers wouldn't even agree that former presidential investigations (Whitewater, Watergate, Teapot Dome) were legal and proper.

Except it was an Obama Judge and President Trump knew he wouldn't get a fair shake...

Come talk to me when the case gets to the SCOTUS, where it will be a slam dunk in favor of President Trump..

The outcome of the appellate court's decision is probably not going to be a surprise to anyone, mostly because Trump's legal argument is so shaky.

No, it won't be a surprise to anyone because the appellate court is made up of Democrats, Never Trumpers and Trump/America haters..

There is only one court that matters here..

Trump is confident that after installing two conservative justices on the Supreme Court, that they can be expected to give him everything he wants. He has reason to believe this, especially with Justice Fratboy sitting there.

And my references to Odumbo and the Dumbocrats explained.. :D

If Trump loses at the Supreme Court, then the investigations will move forward. Trump is pretty obviously trying to hide some very big things

Just as Odumbo was obviously trying to hide some very big things when he refused to release his transcripts.

All his stonewalling and all his delay tactics might just wind up backfiring on him in spectacular fashion.

Yea, cuz President Trump has ALWAYS been wrong in his tactics and strategy and NOTHING ever worked out for him, eh? :D

Ya'all said much the same thing and President Trump's {sic} "Muslim" ban..

And yet, President Trump emerged victorious and all of the Demcorats, Never Trumpers and Trump America haters were covered in their own kaa-kaa...

Here.. Let me help ya out with a rebuttal..

"Oh....well... er... uh... That's different!!"

Don't say I never do anything for ya'all.. :D heh

The reason Democrats always lose is the either play by the old rules or they play Trump's game on Trump's field..

And they lose.. They lose and lose and lose...

And they will continue to lose until Jan of 2024...