Mueller said there wasn't any evidence of conspiracy with Russia.

No, he didn't. He said "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that's a big difference when you consider that lawyers and prosecutors parse their words very carefully. There was quite a bit of evidence as set forth in Mueller's report, but there wasn't enough evidence that Mueller believed a jury would convict "beyond a reasonable doubt"... a very high bar to clear. The FBI doesn't generally bring cases to trial that do not meet at least the "preponderance of the evidence" test... and certainly not high profile cases like this one.

My interpretation is that Russia wasn't interested.

The GRU didn't need Trump's help, but they were definitely interested; they simply used their common practice of using cutouts to reach out to the campaign... with the exception of Roger Stone.

As for obstruction, if you order people to obstruct and they ignore you and you forgot what you ordered, have you committed obstruction?

Yes. One does not have to successfully obstruct justice in order to have committed obstruction of justice; one needs only to "endeavor" to obstruct, as defined by statute.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1505

18 U.S.C. Section 1505. Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees

Whoever, with intent to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct compliance, in whole or in part, with any civil investigative demand duly and properly made under the Antitrust Civil Process Act, willfully withholds, misrepresents, removes from any place, conceals, covers up, destroys, mutilates, alters, or by other means falsifies any documentary material, answers to written interrogatories, or oral testimony, which is the subject of such demand; or attempts to do so or solicits another to do so; or

Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.

Asshole.

I've already agreed to your description of yourself in your bio and in your comments... there's absolutely no need to keep reiterating your already admitted ignorance.

You are the one making ridiculous and false statements.

I never said money is evil.

I won't ask if you are seriously this thick because your bio expressly defines your ignorance while your posts confirm it repeatedly, but it takes a ridiculously special kind of stupid to spend 3+ years defining voting for any candidate who takes your asinine definition of "Big Money" as voting for the "lesser of two evils" when your pathetic attempt at political activism defines such a candidate as one who accepts $201 or more. Are you seriously so ignorant that you're actually incapable of connecting the obvious dots of your own pathetic spew?

You've already admitted there are zero candidates on the planet who meet your purity test. Are you now going to claim you haven't posted on this forum ad nauseam about "lesser of two evils" voting when you've defined $201 as "Big Money" and what constitutes the corrupting factor? Go find someone as ignorant as you and try that ridiculous drivel on them; however, if you're looking in this forum for your intellectual equal, you've obviously come to the wrong place... try your local elementary school.

As explained in comment 97 (again), the amount you consider paltry is considered substantial by the majority of citizens.

Only an inveterate moron would claim to know what a majority of citizens consider "substantial," but your bio admits your ignorance so you've already identified your own problem.

Citizens that agree can vote in this manner if they choose to do so.

Not voting for a "lesser of two evils" candidate as defined ad nauseam by you couldn't exactly be characterized as a "vote in this manner," now could it? Not voting isn't voting! A write-in vote is the equivalent of not voting in the vast majority of states.

That's called democracy. Each citizen gets to decide for themselves the standards for the candidates they vote for.

While not voting might be considered "democracy" in the alternate universe you've created where it's your definitions that decide what is acceptable, the dictionary defines democracy as "a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives."

Your bullshit doesn't exactly qualify as being "democracy" because it encourages eligible members to not participate in electing representatives who don't meet your self-defined monetary purity test... which is every candidate in America.

Attempted Obstruction...???

"Well, that's different..."
-Memphis, HAPPY FEET

And since Trump did NOT succede in burying it, then where is the evidence??

There is none..

You can spin it all you like to help you make it thru your day.. But at the end of the day, President Trump is completely innocent of Russia Collusion..

Why else is Trump suddenly in a defensive posture?

Suddenly!!??? According to ya'all, Trump has been in a "defensive posture" since the moment he announced..

You see the problem??

Ya'all are so hysterical with hate, you are saying things that contradict other things ya'all have said...

Yea, Chuck has always been an OK guy.. I get the feeling that this is all one big grand lesson that Chuck is teaching the Winchesters..

That we're in for a LOST-esque ending, where it's all been a journey of redemption...

Can't wait..

Bullshit. That's Barr's interpretation. Mueller said that there wasn't enough evidence, mostly because Trump kept trying to bury it.

Mueller also produced ample evidence of obstruction, which Republicants are ignoring.

Why else is Trump suddenly in a defensive posture?

Seems that a man with nothing to hide would hide nothing.

What do you make of that Season 14 finale???

Chuck's become a real prick...

I could not remember if there was going to be a season 15 prior to watching the finale, so I was extremely pissed at the thought that the show’s creators had ended the show by giving the fans the middle finger.

It took me all of one minute to find out that season 15 is going to be the last season — so I don’t have to hunt down the creator of the show and make a throw rug out of his hide — which is a good thing. I really liked seeing a world without people being able to lie (even you gotta admit their president’s truth bombs were funny), but I am not sure that the chaos portrayed would actually happen.

Chuck is a dick, but it seemed a little out of character from what we knew of him that all this time he was really just a sadistic turd getting his jollies off our pain. That’s not how I view God, and I am a little disappointed with the show’s writers for choosing to change Chuck’s character in such a nasty way. But that said, I cannot wait to see what Bobbi (Death) wants to talk to Jack about!

Yer thinking, "Good things come to those who wait.."

And yer absolutely right..

I waited for almost TWO YEARS and lo and behold..

Democrat Hero Robert Mueller totally and completely exonerated President Trump over Russia Collusion..

So yer right..

I waited and good things came! :D

No matter HOW ya'all try to spin things, the SIMPLE FACT is ya'all have been **WRONG** at every turn when it comes to President Trump..

Ya'all have as much credibility as they hysterical fear-mongering morons who say the world is going to end in 12 years.. :D

So, I get how ya'all have to keep a stiff upper lip and all that..

But, jeeeze... Reality just HAS to be a pisser, eh? :D

No.. Given ya'all's track record, there is a 99.8-.2 chance I am right.. :D

Yes.. I know you are saying that..

You and most everyone else here has been saying that same thing since Nov of 2016...

Who knows... Maybe ONE day ya'all may be right.. :D

But, to date, ya'all's track record is dismal.. :D

Nope.

Mueller has spoken..

To some extent. But there's nothing like hearing it from the horse's mouth.

Who???

Interesting..ignorant of the guy who gave Kushner his security clearance, and of the Trump Foundation's accounting firm, all of whom got threats from Trump's lawyers this week not to testify. Keep up.

it's unlikely SCOTUS will side with Congress against the Executive..

Really? Name one case. Normally goes the other way.

What I'm saying is that Trump has (in the words of one pundit) got "a lot of pots coming to a boil".

You still following SUPERNATURAL??

What do you make of that Season 14 finale???

Chuck's become a real prick...

It's funny.. You people always demand I answer stuff, but with few exceptions, you don't answer crap..

But hay..

I'll play..

Will William Barr testify before congress?

Depends. Will Democrats drop the witch hunt and fishing expeditions??

Will Mueller testify before congress?

Mueller has spoken.. You didn't like what he had to say.. Waaa Waaa

Will Kline testify before congress?

Who???

Will Mnuchin hand over the tax returns, or do jail?

Neither..

Will Mazak cooperate?

Who???

Will the full, unredacted Mueller Report reach congress?

Nope.. Grand Jury testimony is sealed..

Will SCOTUS really back the President?

Depends on which area.. But the SCOTUS has been hesitant to take sides in a turf war between the branches of government.. So, it's unlikely SCOTUS will side with Congress against the Executive..

Trump is reaching a tipping point when it comes to all this.

Balthy, yer repeating yerself.. You have been saying Trump has reached a "tipping point" for the last 2 years...

Why on earth would you think you have ANY credibility left??

How about answering some questions? Like:

Will William Barr testify before congress?

Will Mueller testify before congress?

Will Kline testify before congress?

Will Mnuchin hand over the tax returns, or do jail?

Will Mazak cooperate?

Will the full, unredacted Mueller Report reach congress?

Will SCOTUS really back the President?

Trump is reaching a tipping point when it comes to all this. Putting a lot of eggs in the SCOTUS basket...

Is it REALLY a good idea to seek sanctuary in crypts???

Once again, you just HAVE to ask...

What *IS* it with Left Wingers and their hate and their intolerance???

48%: TRUMP OBAMA SHARE SAME APPROVAL AT THIS TIME IN PRESIDENCY, SAYS POLL..
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_updates/prez_track_apr29

Funny how, as bad as Trump is according to the Hysterical Left, his approval rating is comparable to Obama's.. :D

For those that put all their faith in polls... :D

Tulsi has a consistent record of advocating for sensible gun control. She has long called for reinstating a federal ban on military-style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, requiring comprehensive pre-purchase background checks, closing the gun-show loophole, and making sure that terrorists are not allowed to buy guns. Tulsi has an F-rating from the NRA, a 0% rating by the Hawaii Rifle Association, and a 100% rating by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. She is focused on building bipartisan solutions that can actually be passed into law, rather than using the issue as a partisan political football.

Nope..

"I can't go for that, noooo.. No can do..."
-Hall & Oates

And WHY weren't they a real threat??

Because a conservative SCOTUS had brought down the hammer in favor of the 2nd Amendment...

THAT is thanks to President Trump...

As long as their is a coordinated effort from the Left to repeal the 2nd, there is ALWAYS a threat..

But being that we have solid conservative SCOTUS, with Judge Amy Berman Jackson waiting in the wings (If RBG ever keeps her promise or Democrats kill her by forcing her to work long past what her health can stand) then there will be even LESS of a threat..

Thanks to President Trump..

But the threat is still present..

You were saying...???

There are additional (THOUSANDS) examples...

And which one of those things are an actual threat to the 2nd Amendment??? Let’s see....NONE of them!

With help from the good guy with the gun.. :D

My bust..

I was very impressed. If she actually were to get the Dem nomination, I'd have to vote for her over Trump. Would be the 1st vote this Libertarian ever cast for a Dem president. It would really be more of a vote against the moron-in-chief than it would be a vote for Gabbert.

Once again.. A good guy with a gun stopped a massacre...

Thank the gods for the 2nd Amendment.. :D

"It was clear to me from the way she was answering the questions, Hill was lying about a key part of her testimony."
-Joe Biden, 1998

While Biden's backpedaling will help him in the Primary, it will destroy him in the General...

"Hate is good as any to keep a person going, better then most."
-Sandor "THE HOUND" Clegane

What was an entertaining and amusing aside suddenly becomes a commitment and, with that, well, comes a barrage of attacks. Where Trump deflects incoming with ease, the Democrats scatter, some limping away, some blown out of the picture.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-win-2020-election-polls-recession-bernie-sanders-a8889826.html

If Democrats are smart, they will cede 2020 and start gin'ing up for 2024...

Lawmakers in Hawaii Propose Repealing Second Amendment
This is not the first time Democratic senators in Hawaii have called for congressional action on guns and gun violence.
fee.org/articles/lawmakers-in-hawaii-propose-repealing-second-amendment/

Democrats, 39 percent, do indeed want to repeal Second Amendment
washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/28/repeal-2nd-amendment-cry-resonates-39-percent-demo/

Repealing the Second Amendment isn't easy but it's what March for Our Lives students need

A full repeal of the Second Amendment is hard work, but it is the only way March for Our Lives won't be hijacked by political figures wanting to harness energy and votes more than save lives.
usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/03/28/repealing-second-amendment-march-our-lives-students/463644002/

To Repeat: Repeal the Second Amendment
nytimes.com/2018/02/16/opinion/repeat-repeal-second-amendment.html

Michael Moore - My Proposal to Repeal the Second Amendment ...
facebook.com/mmflint/posts/my-proposal-to-repeal-the-second-amendment-and-replace-it-with-thisproposed-28th/10154778028796857/

REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT ALREADY
We do not need a well-regulated militia (or any militia) to have a free society. We need fewer guns.
psmag.com/social-justice/repeal-the-second-amendment-already

You were saying...???

There are additional (THOUSANDS) examples...

He has insured that a Left Wing SCOTUS will never nullify the 2nd Amendment in my lifetime...

And the 2nd Amendment has never been threatened despite what the gun makers lobbyists at the NRA have told you in the hopes of increasing their sales.

Yea, right.. :D

1. Obama is responsible for this economy that Trump tries to claim his economic policies are the result of.

I am sure you believe that.. Just as I am sure that it's not factually accurate..

2. The laughing stock of the world — you mean like when Trump addressed the United Nations?

If you have to use the UN in yer argument, you have already lost.. :D

Yes, Trump has made our friends question our commitments to them, but if they hate anyone it would be Trump.

And yet, Israel and the US are 1000x closer now than they were under Odumbo..

Funny how that is, eh? :D

As to why I support President Trump..

2nd Amendment..

I am a little confused, what has Trump actually done for the 2nd Amendment — I mean I know he claims to love it, support it, and on a few occasions even claimed to have written it, himself — but what has actually been done by him?

Trump canceled regulations that prevented buckshot from containing lead, which poisons animals that ingest it and long, painful deaths for animals shot but not killed by it. But that’s about as close to the 2nd Amendment that Trump has been.

And the 2nd Amendment has never been threatened despite what the gun makers lobbyists at the NRA have told you in the hopes of increasing their sales.

Obama ran this country into the ground and made America the laughing stock of the world.. Our friends hated us and our enemies laughed at us...

Now, our friends may hate us, but at least they respect our strength. SEE NATO... And our enemies?? They fear us..

1. Obama is responsible for this economy that Trump tries to claim his economic policies are the result of.
2. The laughing stock of the world — you mean like when Trump addressed the United Nations?
3. And you have completely lost your mind if you think anyone but Trumpkins view anything Trump has done as showing “strength”! Trump brags about the LOVE affair he and North Korea’s leader share for each other. Trump crumbled when standing next to Putin in Helsinki like a star-struck teenager. Yes, Trump has made our friends question our commitments to them, but if they hate anyone it would be Trump.

Supporting AntiFa terrorists is simply un-American...

But, Democrats will tell you that they are "very fine people" and "a courageous group".. :^/

Forget, for a moment, his “blue-collar-uncle-at-the-end-of-the-bar persona.” Ignore also his recent, and ridiculous, claim to have the “most progressive record of anybody” running for president. Consider, instead, the sheer number of similarities he seems to have with the vanquished Democratic presidential candidate of 2016.
https://theintercept.com/2019/03/21/joe-biden-2020-hillary-clinton/

A retread of 2016.. We all know how THAT ended up for the Democrats.. :D

"A courageous group of Americans"
-Joe Biden

A truly sad day...

‘Very Fine People on Both Sides’

Yes, indeed, there were Klansmen, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis there. But they were not “met by a courageous group of Americans.” They were met by an equally violent prone group — the masked hoodlums of the notoriously violent and far-left Antifa.
https://spectator.org/bidens-first-campaign-gaffe/

No patriotic American will vote for a guy who calls a terrorist group a "courageous group of Americans"...

Sorry, Joe...

My defense of you is at it's end..

Hypocrisy alert! She became the person she warned us against.
https://nypost.com/2019/04/27/battling-the-democrats-big-lie-about-donald-trump/

This is so hilarious about Democrats and Never Trumpers and Trump/America haters..

During the campaign, they went on and on about how Trump claimed he wouldn't accept the results of the election.

And then when it came down to it, it was the Democrats, Never Trumpers and Trump/America haters who wouldn't accept the results of the election!!

The Democrat Party = The Hypocrisy Party!

"It is to laugh..."
-Daffy Duck

Today, many reporters ride fact-free, neglecting alternative views on such key issues as climate change, where even mild skepticism is ignored, or even the Trump tax cuts. This increasingly ideological cast has been worsened by journalism schools' shift toward social justice advocacy; even well-placed writers at The New York Times complain about the stridency of younger journalists shaping coverage to fit their accepted ideological narratives.
http://www.newgeography.com/content/006285-the-twilight-america-s-mega-media

President Trump is more popular than ya'all's Leftist Media.. :D

THIS really gave me a chuckle..

Today, CNN’s audience share has fallen below not only leader Fox, but MSNBC, Home and Garden, Discovery and Food networks.

CNN is watched LESS than HOME & GARDEN and FOOD NETWORK!!

BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ya'all gotta admit.. THAT is hilarious.. :D

Ya'all get your "news" from a "news" organization that is LESS popular than the HOME AND GARDEN NETWORK!!!

:D Com'on.. THAT is funny!! :D

Kamala Harris is a gun owner??

Hmmmm... Her stock is rising...

"Yer stock is rising, Number One.."
-Dr Evil

What IS it with all this Left Wing antisemitism of late??

Shooting up synagogues, publishing antisemitic cartoons??

Your welcome.

See, people.. *HE* gets me.. :D

Why wasn’t the economy’s performance your only concern when it came to Obama?

It was.. Which is why I think Obama sucked.. Because the economy sucked..

As to why I support President Trump..

2 words..

2nd Amendment..

But it's more than just that.. Obama ran this country into the ground and made America the laughing stock of the world.. Our friends hated us and our enemies laughed at us...

Now, our friends may hate us, but at least they respect our strength. SEE NATO... And our enemies?? They fear us..

President Trump gave America back her pride that Obama took away...

And for that (and Supreme Court Justices), President Trump will always have my vote..

Oh sure.. I am certain that Team Biden LOVES all the attacks from Democrats..

Nice spin, Balthy.. :D

And since we cannot know what the motivations of those large donors are- in order to ensure that there are no donors that have nefarious purposes in mind the donors are limited to 200 dollars per person so that there is no question aboot the motivations of large donors (or the candidates) because there are no large donors.

Sure there are still going to be “large donors” — those that are donating $200! That one donor bring in the same amount that 200 donors who only give $1 each bring in. So who should the candidate focus their fundraising time on — the one donor who gives the maximum or trying to find 200 people to give $1???

The other problem with your plan is that you concern yourself with trying to weed out “nefarious donors”, which as you pointed out in your response, we can never know the motivations of a person who donates. Their reasons should be moot if the candidate is of high moral character and refuses to be bought.

So instead of focusing on trying to prevent countless nefarious donors from having the opportunity to tempt our candidates, wouldn’t it seem smarter to just find the best candidates that won’t give into temptation?

You give me kudos for not being willing to support a Dem. version of Trump just to get rid of the Republican Trump, which pretty much means you can no longer claim that my opposition to Trump is based on partisan allegiances. So thank you for that in advance!

The real question is why do you support this president? You are a big supporter of law enforcement, for which I am grateful. Yet, Trump has constantly bashed the rule of law and those in law enforcement whose job it is to investigate him — and you aren’t just silent in voicing any disapproval, you defend his attacks! He is actively opposed to Congress’ Constitutional duty in oversight of the Executive Branch, and you cheer him on. It is strange to see someone who claims to be so pro-law enforcement not being pro-rule of law.

And before you say that you are only concerned with how well the economy is performing and are willing to ignore all of Trump’s flaws as long as the economy is strong... Why wasn’t the economy’s performance your only concern when it came to Obama? Trump took an already strong economy and claimed that he turned it around. Obama did the hard part, but you had no problem attacking him at every turn.

Joe Biden? It's possible, his team figuring that it's better to get all of this out now than spar about it later.

Sorry, Michale.

ALL of the negative attacks against Joe Biden are coming from the Democrats and the Left Wing..

So much for Party unity, eh?? :D

Funny...

That's what ya'all said prior to the election of 2016.. :D

Trump rallied his troops in Green Bay, Wisconsin, which is on the wrong side of the state, but has an airport which will accommodate AF1. There he called his immigration policy 'sick', which is strangely appropriate. He also called the FBI 'scum'.

Meanwhile, back in DC, there was a Correspondent's dinner, which had a historian as guest speaker, rather than a comedian. Luckily, the historian made his speech about comedy, so the crowd loved it.

But of course, none of this can stay the same.

Eventually, we'll get back to the President attending the Correspondent's Dinner, which will include jokes. And celebrities.

Y'know, normal. Normalcy will once again rule in Washington. Believe it or not.

Or, maybe they were just joking. :)

Well, they are a joke all right...

Or, maybe they were just joking. :)

You know, like me … and, ah, the president.

She already lives in Canada...

But yea.. All those morons who claimed that they would move to Canada if Trump won??

A bunch of lying pissant morons..

Given that choice, I would move to Canada.

Is that clear enough for you?

No??

Then you DIDN'T agree with Mezzo when she said:

"I can only echo Balthy and Listen in saying that getting Trump out is a priority but that I don't believe that means voting for someone 'like Trump'."

So, you are saying you WOULD vote for a DEM version of Trump???

First off, there isn't a Trump-esque Democrat in sight and, hopefully, not another Republican one, either.

I was posing a hypothetical...

And you and Russ and Mezzo took a Sherman..

Now you don't like it???

Fine..

"Let's brass some tacks"
-Metatron, SUPERNATURAL

Would you vote for a DEM version of President Trump in order to defeat President Trump in an election???

It's a simple question.. I don't understand why ya'all are falling all over yerselves to answer, then don't answer then claim you never answered..

No. My mistake is continuing to read your comments to the last character.

But isn't it factually accurate???

Not even remotely.

You, Russ and Mezza said you would not vote for a DEM Trump-esque POTUS...

First off, there isn't a Trump-esque Democrat in sight and, hopefully, not another Republican one, either.

I mean, jesus.. I am giving ya'all a COMPLIMENT and you STILL cap on me.. :^/

No, you are presuming we are idiots - and, watch your language. :)

Oh, I am sure they would "commit" to it if they thought it would get them more votes..

But does anyone think a politician is going to refuse money??

The only time you hear about a candidate returning campaign contributions is when public shame forces them to...

WHich anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together knows they never will..

But isn't it factually accurate???

You, Russ and Mezza said you would not vote for a DEM Trump-esque POTUS...

I mean, jesus.. I am giving ya'all a COMPLIMENT and you STILL cap on me.. :^/

That, Michale, is one of the most asinine comments I've ever seen on this blog.

I believe you got that ass-backwards, Michale

I believe you got that ass-backwards, Michale.

You see, Don, here is the problem. While all the Democratic candidates may take big money, they are most decidedly not similar to Trump - in any way, shape or form.

Absolutely!

When statements like the above are made, credibility in the core argument being put forth is lost.

And that in a nutshell is Don's entire problem and always has been... the repetitive and ridiculous assertion that money itself is inherently evil and that any candidate who would take money over a paltry amount set by Don Harris isn't worthy to receive a citizen's vote. It's laughable on its face and absolute nonsense. :)

If those things did not matter, then there would be no desire to get rid of Trump!!! Your support of Trump demonstrates that those things mean nothing to you!

Whoomp there it is. Russ obviously wins the point here.

Michale started out asking what the number one priority was, and then he moved the goalposts in the usual fashion to the asinine statement that it was the "ONLY priority and NOTHING else matters."

Michale is obviously desperate to paint Democrats as people who would vote for somebody who would "stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody."

Misery loves company. :)

Putting lipstick on a pig is just a pig with lipstick.

I can't speak for everyone else, but I am inclined to take the pig's word for it; however, my advice for you would be to try a different shade, little piggy. :)

Asshole.

Yes, you are, Don. Sounds like you got around to reading your bio and realizing that anybody with your credentials who'd troll the author of this blog in the repetitive fashion you do certainly qualifies as one, although I would have prefaced that with "inveterate."

Congratulations on your breakthrough, Don. It's never too late to get an education. With your bio, the skills you've demonstrated on this forum and your own pathetic attempt at a website, you've got nothing to lose with the exception of your obvious ignorance. :)

That goes without saying. Or, what are you trying to say … ?

So, you and Mezzo agree with Russ..

It's better to keep a GOP Trump in office rather than compromising your principles and voting for a DEM Trump...

WOW..

Principles are breaking out all over!! :D

What would be the point of trading in one incompetent idiot for a newer version of the same thing?

So, what you are saying is that, given the choice between keeping a GOP Trump in office or voting for a Democrat Trump, you won't vote for the Democrat Trump. You would prefer to keep the GOP Trump in office..

Kudos, Russ... Principles before Party.. I knew you had it in you! :D

No.

What would be the point of trading in one incompetent idiot for a newer version of the same thing?

And ANOTHER Sherman!! :D Very good..

Plus, the likelihood of finding a candidate that is a copy of Trump that is not running as a Republican is minimal.

Heh... Of course.. Democrats are pure as the driven snow..

It's only a REPUBLICAN who have nothing but bad candidates.. :D

That goes without saying. Or, what are you trying to say … ?

When you donate money to a candidate, what is the candidate expected to do for you?

Obviously you expect that they will do something for you, since you believe those that give larger donations expect something for their donation.

When I ran a non-profit that was fully funded by local donors, the vast majority of my donors gave between $10 to $25 a month. I did have one donor that gave $5,000 a month. I met him one time — he ran a national restaurant chain and chose to give because he believed in me and liked what I was doing. What did he expect to get in return for his money? Nothing. I literally spoke to him, personally, only two times in 4 years.

Now I had one or two of $10/month donors who seemed to think they were getting a direct line into the decision making of our group with their donation, but they quickly discovered that giving came with no strings or not all — it was an investment in their community.

My point is that you maintain that large donors are corrupt. But how do you know the motivations of anyone who donates more than you think they should?

Yes or No???

No.

What would be the point of trading in one incompetent idiot for a newer version of the same thing?

Plus, the likelihood of finding a candidate that is a copy of Trump that is not running as a Republican is minimal.

Now, I can hear you lament that there never seems to be a good time to get big money out of politics and political decisions and that, in reality, there is no time better than the present to do it.

E would tend to agree with you. But, in this unprecedented and dangerous time of Trump, this president must be stopped or your hopes of getting big money out of politics may, quite conceivably, never happen.

You see, Don, here is the problem. While all the Democratic candidates may take big money, they are most decidedly not similar to Trump - in any way, shape or form.

When statements like the above are made, credibility in the core argument being put forth is lost.

Of course that's your claim..

But it's YOUR desire to get rid of Trump by any means necessary..

We're not talking what matters to me..

We're talking what matters to YOU..

Which you dodge...

So, answer the question..

How far will you go to defeat Trump??

Will you support a Trump-like candidate to beat Trump??

Yes or No???

NOTHING else matters to you but beating Trump.. Not honor, not integrity nothing..

If those things did not matter, then there would be no desire to get rid of Trump!!! Your support of Trump demonstrates that those things mean nothing to you!

Obviously.

I know, I know..

Ya'all were hoping for the pain and suffering of an economy imploded and in free-fall..

Doesn't it SUCK that things are so good!!?? :D

But I am proving a point.

NOTHING else matters to you but beating Trump.. Not honor, not integrity nothing..

The **ONLY** goal is to beat Trump and that end justifies any means...

Is that an accurate assessment??

You see, it's much harder than voting for the most right-wing President of our lifetime, as you will.

You are going to vote for Biden in the Primary...

Of course not.. Democrats are as pure as the driven snow.. :D

Gods yer easy.. :D

Full Stop.

OK, so does that mean you would vote for a Trump-Like Democrat if said Trump-Like Democrat had a chance of beating President Trump..

It's a fair question...

If beating President Trump is the ONLY priority to the exclusion of all else, would you vote for ANYONE who could beat Trump, regardless of any baggage??

Silly.

All I said was nothing else matters but beating Trump.

Full Stop.

Yes. Yes it is.

OK, great...

Nothing else matters but beating President Trump..

Even if you have to nominate a Trump-like Democrat to do it..

Right??

Or has anyone else noticed what HORRIBLE shots every species on ORVILLE is??

I mean, my gods... They couldn't hit the broad side of an earth type moon!!

Yes. Yes it is.

Biden may or may not be the one to do it. Don't yet know. I say: there's time. Let's do some information collecting first.