I don't believe I ever said that BS could win the nomination.. If I did, I misspoke.

Duly noted, thank you. Even if you (or anyone else) had actually said it, things happen all the time that cause people to change their minds about things. Donald Trump is definitely on record regarding his belief that the Democratic nominee will be one of the two "old white guys."

What I **HAVE** said is that Democrat elites are PETRIFIED that BS can win the nomination..

Elites!? Funny word. The only problem Benedict Donald has with the "elites" is that they don't accept him in their circles. While the Drumpf's were always welcome in the circles of those in the underbelly, Donald's only problem with what he refers to as the "elites" is that he was only ever "allowed in" on the fringes, and now he's gone and blown his chance of ever being recognized as what he so desperately wished to achieve... in quite similar fashion as Benedict Arnold.

Thanx for that huge and awesome synopsis of GOT.. I know that took a while and your efforts are greatly appreciated..

Not all that long, just had to check a few spellings of fictional people's names. My voice recognition software has more epic fails when I discuss GOT.

Yea, I was surprised Arya stripped down.. I had thought the GOT PTB would try to keep one girl "pure"...

Pure!? I believe Arya has more kills than any other character in GOT that's not a dragon. Well, at least Arya was "pure" in that one regard... "was."

During my binge watching, I had thought it would be Sansa.. Then Ramsey got ahold of her.. :(

Poor Ramsay... a real bastard... GOT what he deserved in the end. As it should be. :)

And, my gods, what happened to Gilly!!!

She looks as big as Samwell now!!

I don't believe I ever said that BS could win the nomination.. If I did, I misspoke.

What I **HAVE** said is that Democrat elites are PETRIFIED that BS can win the nomination..

Thanx for that huge and awesome synopsis of GOT.. I know that took a while and your efforts are greatly appreciated..

Yea, I was surprised Arya stripped down.. I had thought the GOT PTB would try to keep one girl "pure"... During my binge watching, I had thought it would be Sansa.. Then Ramsey got ahold of her.. :(

And what do you estimate the chances of Biden (old white guy) winning the Democrat primary???

Your argument falls completely apart when juxtaposed with your prior argument that Bernie Sanders could win the nomination.

You're contradicting yourself again. Try harder. :)

Getting the US out of wars...

But with President Trump all bets are off..

I will not type what I am thinking. You're welcome. :)

It now appears that Trump is unable to distinguish the difference between oversight, and the financial forms that his properties use to establish good tenants.

Surprised? No one is surprised.

If I want to rent from Trump, they would ask to see my financial history. So why isn't that a prerequisite to being President again?

It is; it's just not a written law, and regardless if it were a law, people like Donald Trump believe rules/laws are for everybody else. Trump learned this bullshit from Roy Cohn. Unfortunately for Roy Cohn, lawyer to the mob and Donald Trump, the law did eventually catch up to him. Alas, Poor Roy, his demise was a fitting end to exactly what he deserved; he lost his law license and the majority of his friends, including Trump, who turned their back on him when he was diagnosed with AIDS. Roy referred to Donald as "Mr. Ingratitude."

Unless Trump outlives the law catching up to him, and it eventually will, he'll learn in his old age that he isn't above the law either. No one ever is. :)

In the PREVIOUSLY ON GAME OF THRONES part, it shows Bran saying that exact thing..

Do you recall what episode that was in?? I don't recall the scene...

As you know, the final episode of Season 6, Bran sees a series of flashbacks where Ned finds Lyanna dying, and she says "Promise me, Ned" and then whispers his name to Ned, cut to Jon Snow closeup.

Remember also that during Season 7, Gilly shows Samwell in a book kept by the High Septon of the Citadel that he had given Rhaegar an annulment.

Fast forward to the final episode of Season 7, where Samwell and Bran are having a discussion at Winterfell about Jon needing to know he was "Jon Sand" since he was a bastard born in Dorne so he wouldn't be called "Snow" (remember, Bran still thought his aunt was raped). Samwell then informs Bran what he learned at the Citadel about Rhaegar's annulment. Sam then tells Bran to see if he can "see" the truth. Bran uses the Three-Eyed Raven to discover Rhaegar and Lyanna being wed, thus "Jon Sand" born in Dorne wasn't a bastard at all, he was the legal heir of Rhaegar Targaryen with a claim to the Iron Throne of Westeros... forged by dragons.

I would wager before this whole thing is over that dragons are going to "unforge" that Iron Throne. In other words, it's going to go out in the same manner it came in... dragon fire. The whole thing has to end with no one sitting on the Iron Throne because it doesn't exist in their universe any longer. Multiple characters have discovered many times over that "power" doesn't necessary lie with the one who occupies the darn throne.

Didn't you just know Arya and Gendry would end up together? I did. As you know, I also think that Gendry isn't the bastard son of Robert and Cersei. Remember Cersei talking about seeing his little black head of hair yet never visiting his crypt? I would wager Gendry is as legit as Jon Snow... excuse me... Aegon Targaryen. I will be surprised if Gendry is not a Baratheon with a claim to the Iron Throne. If he isn't... missed opportunity by the author.

Remember Season 8, first episode, when Jon/Aegon reunited with Arya (finally), and he said he was "part of the family too," and she said to "remember" that. I would wager the (original) Stark family is going to be ripped apart before this whole thing is over. They're going to have to work it out and discover that Westeros is stronger when they work together and have absolutely no need of "absolute rule" by King/Queen who unilaterally makes binding decisions.

If you study history, which for a multitude of reasons I do not believe you do, there are many similarities of Game of Thrones to the War of the Roses in Britain... fast forward where Britain has dispatched absolute rule by Monarchy in favor of rule by the people. It's history repeated time and time again; the same story of Britain and their little spin-off colonies that became the United States. It the story and England and America all over again.

Or not... I could be totally wrong. :)

Dearest Don,

For future reference, using two comment boxes to respond to a post is not exactly the way to prove to another poster that they're "not worth bothering with." On the other hand, CW's non-responses to your myriad of posts over multiple years and his just plain ignoring your repetitive and incessant whining and moaning are exactly the way it's done.

Have a nice day. :)

In this case, absence of evidence *IS* evidence of absence...

Wrong! If you'd like to be taken seriously as a law enforcement officer, this is not the way to go about it.

Also, somebody didn't read the Mueller Report! Evidence was admittedly destroyed by multiple people.

The GOP and their minions were all over television defending the actions of the Trump campaign for getting help from Russia; they're basically admitting it now and making excuses for it. I would wager they've pivoted from denying it happened to claiming there's nothing wrong with what they did because it's now totally front and center on their radars that they haven't remotely been cleared for "conspiring" and "coordinating" the release of stolen property from WikiLeaks, a cutout of the "Russian government."

Buckle up. As I said long ago: When it looks like it's almost over, it'll just be getting started. :)

And what do you estimate the chances of Biden (old white guy) winning the Democrat primary???

If the Democrat's name is Biden, then yes, I literally do.

Yes! Removing him from office at the ballot box could totally happen, and Joe Biden could definitely do it. :)

i did mean the russian government, but i don't think anyone has accused the trump campaign of conspiracy with the russian tea room.

True... The Russian pee room was the incident where Michael Cohen was informed just before the election in late October 2016 that a Russian had helped the Trump campaign in order to stop the "flow" of "compromising" tapes but could not attest there weren't others. Seriously. It's in the footnotes (a lot of the best stuff is), Mueller Report, Volume II, footnote 112, pp. 27-28. :)

my judgment is that if mueller and his team couldn't find evidence of conspiracy with russia, then it probably wasn't there to be found. that's not exoneration (proof of the negative), but it's acknowledgment that there's currently no proof of the positive. absence of evidence vs evidence of absence and all that.

Very well stated. Far from the "total exoneration" and "no collusion" Trump and his minions are claiming, they could still be charged with any number of crimes by another prosecutor who might decide to indict them for what Mueller chose not to prosecute... except the POTUS until he no longer holds the office. As far as everyone else not POTUS and not indicted yet, see Appendix D and all those redactions. There are a whole boatload of charges for which the Trump minions can be indicted. Just as a small "for instance," it is a felony to lie on your SF-86, and Jared Kushner did that in spades multiple times over; of course, it was outside Mueller's mandate. Who else? I would wager there are a dozen of them that lied either under oath or lied to federal investigators. Donald Trump, Jr. definitely lied to prosecutors; if they choose not to prosecute him for it, he is not "totally exonerated" by any stretch of the imagination.

you're absolutely right about pecan pie, of course

We make a wicked pecan pie with dark chocolate. CW is shirking his responsibility to inform the public about all the wonderfulness of pie; I can't believe they haven't taken away his man card over it. :)

The facts say different

It is Iran’s war in Yemen and America’s problem
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/422361-it-is-irans-war-in-yemen-and-americas-problem

American elements wanted to punish SA for the Kashoggi debacle.. They thought that handing Yemen over to Iran was the best way to do that.

They thought wrong...

As bad as SA is, Iran is 100 times worse...

If we're gonna have to deal with thugs and scumbags in the region, better to deal with thugs and scumbags that are on OUR side..

As opposed to thugs and scumbags that work AGAINST us and our interests...

Give me a freakin' break, Michale. We're done here.

Well, Iranian influence in Yemen was minimal before Saudi Arabia took its decidedly unenlightened action there.

I don't recall any comments from you condemning or questioning Obama's move into Syria..

I could be wrong in that.. But you'll have to show me..

Because HE has all the facts, unlike you or I...

So, I'll trust his judgement..

What I mean is that SA is trying to minimize/eliminate a problem (Iranian influence) that was essentially non-existent.

Considering how many people have died in the region due to Iran's material support of terrorism, I am at a loss to understand how you can say that...

You didn't seem to mind when Obama sent troops into Syria...

Now, however, after 4 years of war, Iranian influence has sky-rocketed.

The US should have no part of this particular fiasco … chickens eventually coming home to roost and all that.

Most wars usually are.. I mean, it's kinda a defining quality..

… a disaster that can lead to nowhere good.

Hopefully, in future, Chris will write more about these foreign policy issues. He'll have to when Biden announces.

Yea, I misread your post.. My bust..

Would it have anything to do with his relationship or the US relationship with the House of Saud?

Possibly..

You don't feel that's important, give the Saudis influence in the region and their check on the terrorist state Iran???

No, Michale … Trump wants the US to REMAIN supporting the Yemen conflict. Which is why he vetoed the bill.

Would it have anything to do with his relationship or the US relationship with the House of Saud?

Seriously shocking!!!

You mean, like you misrepresented that bullshit fact check org link that had NOTHING to do with what was being discussed???

Except for Judges. McConnell, is hot for judges, and has been sticking them in at every opportunity. I have to honestly wonder whether that's Trump's reason for being there.

That's the prez out by himself.

That was easy.

But thank you for proving how fact check org is nothing but a Left Wing propaganda site... :D

Your link proves nothing..

Now explain how you got #243 hopelessly backward.

Explain how you think it's backwards???

https://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

That was easy.

Now explain how you got #243 hopelessly backward.

Facts to support???

No???

Of course not..

Regardless, Rachel MadCow released Trump's tax returns.. Didn't you hear her breathless news report??

Apparently, you didn't like them, eh? :D

“Little birds,” be on the lookout for a former deputy director of ours wandering through #Westeros in tonight’s episode of #GameOfThrones.
https://twitter.com/CIA/status/1120123885771476992/photo/1

heh

:D

They were released. You just didn't like 'em.

Getting the US out of wars...

Time was, Democrats WANTED things like that..

But with President Trump all bets are off..

You don't see me whining and complaining that Odumbo wasn't the "true" POTUS because he refused...

You people really have a problem with losing, don'tcha?? :^/

Fine.. Then do it for the next election..

Tell me.. How have Democrats progressed on that legislation??

Not at all.. They would rather just whine and stamp their feet..

After all, presidential candidates have been handing out copies of their tax returns for the last 50 years.

VOLUNTARILY....

As our own esteemed NY Poet has stated.. You can't fault a person for using the rules to their own benefit...

Yet that is EXACTLY what you are doing..

But my point was: he has NO problem asking for financial forms from his renters. None.

Is that or is that not good business sense??

Once again, if you don't like it, CHANGE IT...

Whining and crying that President Trump plays by the rules and NOT by YOUR demands..

Well, that's just childish..

I do. After all, presidential candidates have been handing out copies of their tax returns for the last 50 years. Will Trump? No. We may have to pry it from his dead fingers.

This is where the solemn intonations of the GOP fall apart. Good men are aghast at such impunity. Eventually, yes, a law has to be passed.

Because it NEVER has been a pre-requisite..

You just want to change the rules because yer candidate was shitty and lost..

If you want to make it a pre-requisite for the next election go for it..

But whining about it now is nothing but sour grapes and sore-luser'dom..

Let's see what Chris focuses on tonight.

I think this thread is done.

Trump sues to block Congressional inquiry into his financial affairs

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-sues-house-oversight-committee_n_5cbdc757e4b06605e3f14154

It now appears that Trump is unable to distinguish the difference between oversight, and the financial forms that his properties use to establish good tenants.

If I want to rent from Trump, they would ask to see my financial history. So why isn't that a prerequisite to being President again?

Sorry sweety, that wont cut it. I ask for specifics and you tell me we have ideological differences, but that doesn't qualify as "unenlightened".

I maybe think your contributions aren't adding much to the CW blog either, but I don't claim that disqualifies you from posting.

:D

Maximum effect with minimum effort.. :D

Your comments generally add nothing to the conversation.

This place isn't some run-of-the-mill chat room.

It is an excellent reality-based blog that commands an enlightened discussion in the comments sections.

But, you're in luck. There will be another column up soon and you'll have a chance for redemption.

@Kick...

You (very accurately, I might add) predicted that Jon Snow was the son of Aerys Targaryen & Lyanna Stark...

In the PREVIOUSLY ON GAME OF THRONES part, it shows Bran saying that exact thing..

Do you recall what episode that was in?? I don't recall the scene...

Re: My [210] being "Not fit for this blog".

Please explain - is it "unfit" on account of being inaccurate/untruthful, because of the word "shit", because you disagree, or what?

Take care.

Not my intent, I assure you... :D

I vehemently disagree.

Any logical and rational person will always be able to discern the difference ...

Take care.

It doesn't hurt.

One person's enlightened discussion is another person's mocking troll.. And versie vicie...

I have learned not to take it all TOO seriously... I had a stroke back in January.. Admitted to the hospital with a BP 260 over 180...

Last appt my BP was 120 over 80...

I have learned not to sweat the small shit.. :D

A lesson I keep having to relearn over and over and over every day... :D

He made some good points..

With a few exceptions, the Anti-Trump hysteria has reached a fever'ed pitch around here...

I have always expected more from you, Michale - chalk it up to nostalgia for what this place used to be.

There is absolutely NO DAYLIGHT between you and I in that assessment..

One thing is for sure, Michale. Trump's behavior since entering the political sphere has been despicable and decidedly not presidential.

I wouldn't go as far as to say "despicable" but I can see where someone who is logical and rational and would see that...

As far as 'Presidential'???

Acting "presidential" is no guarantee of being a good president...

I continue to believe that he is wholly unfit for the office he holds, criminal or no criminal.

I respect that opinion. Gods know Trump has given ample reason to support that opinion..

But I still maintain that Trump's good far outweighs his bad...

Not fit for this blog.

Don't forget how Republicans "stole" the SCOTUS seat.. :D

We KNOW he 'colluded', we KNOW he 'conspired', and as fast as anybody tries to explain otherwise, we'll keep inventing new charges to perpetuate our pain into eternity!

That about sums things up perfectly..

Yunno what scares me the most???

That Democrats shrug their shoulders, get over their hate and intolerance and bitterness and get down to actually doing their jobs, working WITH President Trump...

Democrats do that and they actually might have a chance to win back the government in 2024...

Although I know I have a better chance of winning the lottery than I do of Democrats actually doing that..

But the slim chance it COULD happen really scares the peepee out of me..

One thing is for sure, Michale. Trump's behavior since entering the political sphere has been despicable and decidedly not presidential. I continue to believe that he is wholly unfit for the office he holds, criminal or no criminal.

Could population growth propel Phoenix and Tucson to merge?
https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/real-estate/catherine-reagor/2019/04/21/could-phoenix-and-tucson-merge-2040-population-growth/3509155002/

Tusciex??? Phoescon???

:D

We KNOW he 'colluded', we KNOW he 'conspired', and as fast as anybody tries to explain otherwise, we'll keep inventing new charges to perpetuate our pain into eternity!

Oil prices spiked to nearly six-month highs on the surprise news.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/22/trump-expected-to-end-iran-oil-waivers-try-to-drive-exports-to-zero.html

Nice....

Quite obviously, not.

Well, it's quite obvious that YOU don't believe it's possible..

But I would be willing to wager that, amongst the rest of the Weigantians, there will be at LEAST 8 who DO believe it's possible to remove President Trump by impeachment..

Such is the strength of the delusions that they cling to.

Bless their hearts.. :D

Quite obviously, not.

Juvenile.

CW, Wordpress doesn't seem to like 'oregonlive' when it's part of a URL...

Another cop hating racist gets a pay-out... :^/

Fifth: It’s the Democrats....
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/feehery-trump-reelection

Unless President Trump does something MONUMENTALLY stoopid (a possibility, I grant you) Donald Trump will be POTUS until 20 Jan 2024....

The facts are in...

There was no collusion...

The President of the United States did not conspire with the Russians. Neither did his family. Neither did his friends. Neither did his campaign. At the end of the Robert Mueller investigation – now clearly staffed and advanced by partisans who loathe this president – not one single American, after all that, has been indicted or charged with any crime for conspiring with the Russians in any way, shape, or form to steal the 2016 election. That is now an indisputable fact. The uncomfortable reality is that we spent two years being fed the most irresponsible allegations advanced by an ignorant punditocracy gone savage for this idea, which should raise all sorts of questions about our political, intelligence, and media elites who sold us this crazy story and promised the American people the proof that never came.https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/19/collusion-dream-dead-conspiracy-lives/

This bears repeating..

At the end of the Robert Mueller investigation – now clearly staffed and advanced by partisans who loathe this president – not one single American, after all that, has been indicted or charged with any crime for conspiring with the Russians in any way, shape, or form to steal the 2016 election. That is now an indisputable fact.

Ya'all should recite that in the mirror every morning when you wake up and every evening before you go to sleep...

It will do wonders for ya'all's mental health.. :D

The question was not an honest attempt to seek information or clarity. It was a character smear. It was itself spin.
https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2019/04/21/William-Barr-attorney-general-Mueller-report-class-transparency/stories/201904210059

From Pennsylvania... Interesting...

It’s about reality. And the journalist Glenn Greenwald is not a conservative by any measure.

No crime means that dog won’t hunt.

Glenn Greenwald is no Trump sycophant..

But he DOES have the integrity to acknowledge the facts when they stare him in the face..

Would that we could have more Glenn Greenwalds in the world..

For years now, Blanche has been insisting that Shep Huntleigh (Robert Mueller) would be coming any day, to save her from the barbarian Stanley Kowalski (Trump).

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-mueller-report-kass-20190419-story.html

I get it, people.. I really do..

Ya'all have lived and breathed Russia Collusion since Nov of 2016...

It must be completely devastating to learn that it was all just an illusion.. A lie..

"A fantasy we create about people
And places as we'd like them to be.."
-I'VE NEVER BEEN TO ME, Charlene

I wish I could tell ya'all it's going to get better.. That Trump is going to be resoundingly defeated in 2020 and Democrats will have their revenge..

I honestly wish I could make ya'all feel better with that..

But ya'all know and I know that it's just not gonna happen..

Channeling my inner Dr Strange, I predict several scenarios that will play out in the coming 18 months..

Unlike Dr Strange, I can't find even a single scenario that is likely... even possible.... that will allow a Democrat victory in Nov of 2020...

If Democrats actually move on from this hysterical Trump killing agenda and actually works towards the betterment of the country, great things will happen and Trump will win re-election in a landslide...

If Democrats continue to hammer hysterically with their WE MUST TAKE DOWN TRUMP mentality, more and more of the American people will become more and more disgusted with the actions of the Democrat Party and Trump will win re-election in a landslide..

The best move.. The VERY best strategy for the Democrat Party is to swallow their pride, admit they were wrong and start planning for 2024..

That would be the SMART thing to do...

But NO ONE actually believes that Democrats are capable of doing the SMART thing...

Congressional Dems can’t help themselves and are committed to keeping the impeachment flames burning, and the 2020 candidates are acting as if Trump is actually as guilty as they said he was the day before the report cleared him. Either way, the party is not ready to move on.
https://nypost.com/2019/04/20/trumps-best-move-forward-ignore-the-dems-focus-on-policy/

Just as I predicted...

The Mueller Report is 1 part Russia Collusion Exoneration and 1000 parts Whataboutisms...

Yea.. THAT will endear Buttagig to a large portion of the Democrat Party.. :D

Is he TRYING to convince Bernie supporters to stay home?? Or even worse (for Democrat Party), VOTE for President Trump??

Democrats 'may' pursue impeachment against Donald Trump as Giuliani defends president
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/21/democrats-may-pursue-impeachment-against-president-trump/3533315002/

Apparently, Democrats are not all that confident they can beat him at the ballot box.. :D

President Trump obstructed on nearly every page of Volume II of the Mueller report, even though Robert Mueller was too lost in legalese to throw the book at him. The report counts as the Worst Exoneration Ever, replete with incrimination.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/maureen-dowd-how-the-ego-maniac-in-the-oval-was-exonerated-1.3867555

"WORST EXONERATION EVER"...

Maybe...

But it STILL is an exoneration..

And THAT is what is driving everyone (NEN) batshit crazy.. :D

heh

my judgment is that if mueller and his team couldn't find evidence of conspiracy with russia, then it probably wasn't there to be found. that's not exoneration (proof of the negative), but it's acknowledgment that there's currently no proof of the positive. absence of evidence vs evidence of absence and all that.

Exactly...

Given the amount of resources give to Mueller in time, money and VERY motivated personnel, if there was even a SCINTILLA of evidence out there that proved collusion, it would have been found...

In this case, absence of evidence *IS* evidence of absence...

Anyone who clings to the notion that Mueller didn't exonerate President Trump with regards to Russia Collusion is simply deluding themselves because they can't handle the fact that they have been completely and utterly WRONG since Nov of 2016...

Sorry about dragging you into this..

There are so few times that someone here actually steps up and has the courage of their convictions..

I wanted to recognize you for that courage.. :D

If the Democrat's name is Biden, then yes, I literally do.

I was referring to removing from office via any means other than the ballot box...

Does ANYONE here honestly and truly believe that President Trump will be removed from office by impeachment???

But, since you bring it up, let's look at that.

You know I like and respect Biden..

But, given the state of the push to the Left that Democrats are seeing and the explosion of identity politics.....

Do you HONESTLY believe that an old white guy is going to win the Dem primary???

And, if one did, can you imagine the demoralizing effect that would have on the massive dingbat/Occasional Cortex Wing of the Democrat Party???

If anyone but a woman/minority wins the nomination, 2/3rds of the Democrat Party will stay home on 3 Nov 2020...

So, I don't think Biden will be able to remove President Trump from office... Not because of Biden but because the Democrat Party won't give him the chance..

Do ya'all SERIOUSLY think that the Democrats are going to be able to remove President Trump from office???

If the Democrat's name is Biden, then yes, I literally do.

i did mean the russian government, but i don't think anyone has accused the trump campaign of conspiracy with the russian tea room. my judgment is that if mueller and his team couldn't find evidence of conspiracy with russia, then it probably wasn't there to be found. that's not exoneration (proof of the negative), but it's acknowledgment that there's currently no proof of the positive. absence of evidence vs evidence of absence and all that.

you're absolutely right about pecan pie, of course.

THIS is why I love you so much! Well, one of the reasons, anyway! ;D

Love you more! ;)

Yes you do....

Nice of you to agree that I have the list of GOP talking points... since I indeed have today's list. Actually, to be factual, I get a list of GOP talking points delivered to me every day.

But you have no facts...

Exactly right! The GOP talking points are chock full of long lists of "no facts."

ATTENTION... ATTENTION... ATTENTION... ATTENTION

I think Michale has had a breakthrough here. I'm so proud. :)

so in response to michale's question, yes, i think the report absolutely exonerates donald of conspiracy with russia.

Okay, first off, I'm quite certain you meant "Russian government" versus "Russia."

that doesn't make him innocent of anything else, but i think we can safely put the conspiracy question to bed.

Here's why we actually can't put "conspiracy" to bed yet:

Mueller's report actually does not exonerate the president (or anyone else who can be indicted) even with respect to "conspiracy" and "coordination." Although the report does state that there was "no evidence" of "conspiracy" or "coordination," it undeniably leaves open the possibility that there actually may be evidence out there that the president or the president's associates may have suppressed some evidence that proves otherwise, and this is far from the "total exoneration" that is being claimed.

As the report clearly states, many individuals invoked their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Also, there was some information that was screened even from the Robert Mueller and his investigative team. It is a fact that several people affiliated with the Trump campaign -- including but not limited to Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, and current prisoner Paul Manafort -- admittedly lied or provided incomplete information to Robert Mueller and his team of investigators about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals. Also, many others deleted communications and/or used encryption that did not provide for the long-term retention of data.

Indeed, the most surprising parts of Mueller's report that he repeats in multiple sections are:

* Special counsel Mueller went out of his way multiple times to dispel the nonsensical notion that Trump's babbling concept of "collusion" wasn't a consideration. Mueller's report makes clear repeatedly that what he investigated was instead "conspiracy" and "coordination."

* Mueller's report did not exonerate the president even with respect to conspiracy and coordination. In fact, the report makes clear:

"While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges."

So to recap: The term "exoneration" and "evidence not sufficient to support criminal charges" are two totally separate and wholly different things.

And in conclusion: Pecan pie! Because you simply cannot argue with nutty pie; there's simply not enough nuts in pies. ;)

Argue with NYPoet....

Okay, will do.

If you dare..

I do dare... for I am daring that way. :)

Ah! There you go. The social construct. That's important. I knew that you'd get it.

Nobody wants Nationalism. We fought a war against it. Only nazis, bigots, and folks with power want nationalism.

We want a world that doesn't lock kids in cages, and in which people are healthy and educated. If that's not your world, we don't want it.

Capice?

I bet you fantasize about that, don'tcha?? :D

THIS is why I love you so much! Well, one of the reasons, anyway! ;D

Because you always have NOTHING but talking points.. That are totally and completely divested from reality... :D

Nothing but a social construct...

THIS is why I love you so much! Well, one of the reasons, anyway! ;D

I think sealed indictments could have been filed that only Mueller and Rosenstein would be aware of. It would make sense, you don’t want to alert the person of the charges ahead of time or they could just try to pardon themselves or anyone involved before it could be served.

Trump better pray that he never has to have surgery while still president. If that happens, before they would put him under with anesthesia, Pence would assume the presidency temporarily. In that moment as the doctor is counting backwards and Trump starts to drift off...”3...2...and,” a nurse serves him with the indictments!

If you dare..

so in response to michale's question, yes, i think the report absolutely exonerates donald of conspiracy with russia. that doesn't make him innocent of anything else, but i think we can safely put the conspiracy question to bed.
-NYPoet