it looks like this week's contestant is roger stone.

Well, well... that was a short-lived sealed indictment, unlike the others which remain thusly sealed... to date. Roger Stone, you say?

Could you possibly mean the Roger Stone who was living with Roy Cohn at the time Roy introduced him to a young protégé of his by the name of Trump, whom Cohn adored and spent copious amounts of time mentoring yet was nevertheless abandoned by the Donald as Roy lay dying in a hospital bed from Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome in the mid 1980s, which for that and many other reasons rightly earned the nickname "Mr. Ingratitude" from their mutual friend Roger? That Roger Stone?

Never heard of him. ;)

it looks like this week's contestant is roger stone.

Well, well... that was a short-lived sealed indictment, unlike the others which remain thusly sealed... to date. Roger Stone, you say?

Could you possibly mean the Roger Stone who was living with Roy Cohn at the time Roy introduced him to a young protégé of his by the name of Trump, whom Cohn adored and spent copious amounts of time mentoring yet was nevertheless abandoned by the Donald as Roy lay dying in a hospital bed from Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome in the mid 1980s, which for that and many other reasons rightly earned the nickname "Mr. Ingratitude" from their mutual friend Roger? That Roger Stone?

Never heard of him. ;)

excellent suggestion.

don is just bitter that my idea is more popular after a few weeks of casual posting than his is after ten years of intense investment. the initial point was just to demonstrate that there are different relevant dimensions of public opinion, but after that the pie strategy just sort-of took on a life of its own.

JL

Thanks for illuminating me, but turns out that's a loop I'm perfectly happy to BE out of.

Stucki, we listen to ourselves apparently far more often than you ever listen to yourself.

It certainly fits with his pattern of distraction...

Separately airplanes are starting to be grounded. Nancy/Dems are staying strong. Gonna be one of those Fridays.

McConnell has the same weakness, but for him, the fragmentation is already starting.

It seems the most likely outcome is for the Democrat's $5.7B proposal to be accepted and the government to reopen, coupled with Trump declaring a National Emergency to redirect funds to his Wall.

Everybody wins - Trump can gloat over getting $5.7B and the Wall, Pelosi can say she never gave in to the Wall and fight the emergency in courts.

P.S. Sorry John M, if that comes across as a "fright bomb", I just had to say it!

Overheard at the WH.

"Better get a dozen buckets of KFC....It's gonna be a long night."

Wodger Stone Awwested in Fowt Laudewdale!

it looks like this week's contestant is roger stone.

JL

It's Friday. :)

you are misrepresenting the pie movement as somehow similar to the big cake, and throwing out ice cream as an unrelated distraction. pie is a voter centered movement, while big cake is instituted from the top down. big cake candidates have no reason to feed anyone but the people who bake for them, while pie can be made by voters directly. yet, you are arguing against what pie is not instead of addressing the issue afoot, and making moosepoop excuses not to vote for pie. until you address what the opportunity of pie is instead of making excuses based on what it is not, you will continue to be part of the problem.

JL

Is it really all about the big cake? we all know that "two scoops" is in the bag for big ice cream.

Isn't it really time for the electorate to reject both big cake and big pie? wouldn't that make it better?

Until the electorate stands up to big pastry nothing can happen that is positive...

Yep.

This shows why she was a bad choice for speaker, because she lets them eat cake just like trump does.

It is just cake as usual. If polls show the public blames the RepubliCakes it plays into the Cakeocrat strategy of cutting out the pie.

poll after poll shows that 90% of citizens like pie, yet it isn't a reason to play hardball with the Big cake BCP candidates by withholding our votes and keeping them out of our refrigerators.

Maybe pie-lovers should start trolling journalists that spew out the cake-loving cow pies for both BCPs until they start playing hardball against the Big Cake interests and their Cakeys Cakers like Pelosi.

The people want pie. Give them pie instead of this big cake, lesser of two devils food nonsense.

JL