Comments on: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Should Strike While The Iron Is Hot And Re-Introduce The "No Budget, No Pay Act" http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/ Reality-based political commentary Sat, 16 May 2026 07:55:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130681 TheStig Fri, 28 Dec 2018 23:22:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130681 I checked out the pie website....not bad at all. Just one thing...why is the pie magazine published quarterly? They should publish every 3.14.... months. I checked out the pie website....not bad at all. Just one thing...why is the pie magazine published quarterly? They should publish every 3.14.... months.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130680 nypoet22 Fri, 28 Dec 2018 19:04:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130680 @don, no pie, no pay. that's a much better strategy than either yours or CW's, because pie is more popular and has its own frequently updated website, complete with tasty recipes. you can find out more by clicking the link in my name. JL @don,
no pie, no pay. that's a much better strategy than either yours or CW's, because pie is more popular and has its own frequently updated website, complete with tasty recipes. you can find out more by clicking the link in my name.
JL

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130679 nypoet22 Fri, 28 Dec 2018 18:45:58 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130679 @ts, ah, now i see what you mean. i think any reasonable reading of the text of the 27th means that the law can't start working until the next congress, not that the pay change can't occur immediately when the shutdown takes effect. JL @ts,
ah, now i see what you mean. i think any reasonable reading of the text of the 27th means that the law can't start working until the next congress, not that the pay change can't occur immediately when the shutdown takes effect.
JL

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130678 TheStig Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:50:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130678 I just don't see the Courts allowing a simple legislative end run. "No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened." - 27th Amendment Maybe the California Constitution has no equivalent to the 27th, but the US Constitution plainly says it takes 2 years before a pay change can take effect. The same time lag it takes to throw a member or the House out of office at the polling place. I'm not even sure throwing them out of office actually cuts a members pay...it probably actually enhances it...lobbying generally pays better than elected office. I just don't see the Courts allowing a simple legislative end run.

"No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened." - 27th Amendment

Maybe the California Constitution has no equivalent to the 27th, but the US Constitution plainly says it takes 2 years before a pay change can take effect. The same time lag it takes to throw a member or the House out of office at the polling place.

I'm not even sure throwing them out of office actually cuts a members pay...it probably actually enhances it...lobbying generally pays better than elected office.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130676 nypoet22 Fri, 28 Dec 2018 15:53:08 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130676 personally, i think it makes more sense to tie the top government salaries to shutdowns rather than budgets, but it's in effect the same principle - no congress or president should be able to neglect their responsibility to pay other public servants while continuing to pay themselves. personally, i think it makes more sense to tie the top government salaries to shutdowns rather than budgets, but it's in effect the same principle - no congress or president should be able to neglect their responsibility to pay other public servants while continuing to pay themselves.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130675 nypoet22 Fri, 28 Dec 2018 15:30:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130675 @ts, it would not be punitive, it would be preventative. JL @ts,
it would not be punitive, it would be preventative.
JL

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130672 TheStig Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:31:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130672 Nypoet I framed that badly. The 27th says pay changes can only become effective after an intervening election - which results in at least a 2 yr lag between the infraction and the proposed collective punishment. Freshman Reps would be punished for the sins of their predecessors. There is already too much gamemanship in Congress and between Congress and President. Nypoet

I framed that badly. The 27th says pay changes can only become effective after an intervening election - which results in at least a 2 yr lag between the infraction and the proposed collective punishment. Freshman Reps would be punished for the sins of their predecessors. There is already too much gamemanship in Congress and between Congress and President.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130671 nypoet22 Fri, 28 Dec 2018 03:58:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130671 @ts, as i understand the text, it would work just fine with the 27th, it just couldn't take effect until the next congress. @ts,
as i understand the text, it would work just fine with the 27th, it just couldn't take effect until the next congress.

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130670 TheStig Fri, 28 Dec 2018 03:45:53 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130670 As much as I like the rationale of No Budget No Pay I think it would violate the 27th amendment. As much as I like the rationale of No Budget No Pay I think it would violate the 27th amendment.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/12/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-should-strike-while-the-iron-is-hot-and-re-introduce-the-no-budget-no-pay-act/#comment-130669 nypoet22 Fri, 28 Dec 2018 01:09:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16279#comment-130669 i'm not sure if passing a budget is required to fund the government. but one thing is certain, the coast guard protecting our maritime borders shouldn't have their pay withheld while the members of congress who did the damage keep drawing their own paychecks as if nothing had happened. i'm not sure if passing a budget is required to fund the government. but one thing is certain, the coast guard protecting our maritime borders shouldn't have their pay withheld while the members of congress who did the damage keep drawing their own paychecks as if nothing had happened.

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