Good points all. Just had to say that.

nypoet22 [6] -

I think you're both wrong. I think the woman who would be livid with rage would be Dianne Feinstein. SHE has always seen herself as the first woman president, and it would tick her off no end to see a fellow San Franciscan make that leap, I betcha.

C. R. Stucki [9] -

I hear what you're saying, but wasn't it the NE that broke the John Edwards story? They have played a major role at times in American politics already.

I may be remembering it wrong, but I think no other publication would touch the story at the time...

TheStig [17] -

I'm of two minds. Yeah, I've seen how term limits can cause bad unintended consequences out here in CA, but on the other hand Willie Brown is no longer in the news. Heh.

Term limits are a reaction to a perceieved problem. In the Democrats' case (in the House) the problem seems to be real to some extent or another (calicification of leadership due to seniority ruling the day). So I expect we'll go through bouts of it, followed by lengthening of the limits themselves gradually over time, until the cycle begins anew.

I hilariously remember all the freshmen of the Newt Gingrich era conveniently finding reasons to abandon their term limit campaign pledges, after a few elections...

Good times. Heh.

-CW

y'think einstein walked around thinking everyone was a bunch of dumb shits? now you know why he built that bomb.
~idiocracy

"For better or worse"....

Term limits sound good but when implemented don't seem to improve the quality of representatives or make voters happier. If anything, the era of term limits hss made everbody crankier and more crooked. The possibility of snap recall elections might work out better, but killing the gerrymander seems to me the reform most likely revitalize American politics. Ohio has dipped it's toes into this reform, but the implentation is clunky and will be slow to take effect.

There will be appeals, etc. so all is not lost yet.

The popular vote got it right, the Electoral College got it wrong...the very agent that was supposed to protect us from the ignorant masses fell flat on its ass. Same with your rhetorical flourish. Who died and made you an aristocrat?

We now have details as to how the indicted former campaign manager worked with the president to undermine federal law enforcement.

Manfort advised Blotus to: attack the FBI, attack the DNC, attack HRC & the Steele Dossier.

You seem to have misunderstood. I'm not in favor of any kind of censorship. I couldn't care less what morons publish.

My point is that believing what they publish should constitute de-facto evidence of mental impairment, and disquality the person from having the right to vote.

Wow, here's a story I'd missed -

In fact, the Michael Lewis book The Fifth Risk recounts some of Christie's transition efforts in 2016 before Trump won the election—and then literally and figuratively trashed every shred of work Christie had done. Keep in mind that party nominees are legally required to form transition teams. Trump didn't want one but Christie explained he must have one and he could either pay for it himself or pull from campaign funds. Trump refused to do either, so Christie was forced to fundraise for the committee in order to pay its hundred-plus staffers. Trump almost entirely ignored the transition work until he read an article reporting that Christie had raised several million dollars toward the effort. That's when Steven Bannon walked into Trump's Trump Tower residence to find Christie getting an earful from Trump. Lewis writes:

Trump was apoplectic, actually yelling, You're stealing my money! You're stealing my fucking money! What the fuck is this?? Seeing Bannon, Trump turned on him and screamed, Why are you letting him steal my fucking money? Bannon and Christie together set out to explain to Trump federal law. [...] To which Trump replied, Fuck the law. I don't give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money. Bannon and Christie tried to explain that Trump couldn't have both his money and a transition.

Shut it down, said Trump. Shut down the transition.
Christie didn't shut it down.

They temporarily convinced Trump that cable shows like Morning Joe would have a field day with Trump if he didn’t have a transition team in place—it would signal that he was already conceding defeat. But once Trump won the election he effectively fired Christie (actually, he made Bannon do it), fired the entire transition staff, and installed Mike Pence, who started over from scratch—or at least from a list of people for whom the Trumps wanted to do personal favors.

From: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/12/14/1819189/-Christie-snubs-Trump-on-chief-of-staff-post-payback-for-Trump-s-transition-greed

Sucks, doesn't it?

Only AMI and prosecutors know what that might entail, but it’s clear that Pecker’s assistance to Trump did not end with the catch-and-kill, or even with the outlandish Cruz story. As Quartz’s Heather Timmons documented a few months ago, the National Enquirer and its sister publication the Globe ran 35 covers with anti–Hillary Clinton stories. It’s worth considering whether these stories helped decide the outcome of the election.

The anti-Clinton stories ran the gamut from the false but vaguely plausible (“Hillary Failed Secret FBI Lie Detector!”) to workaday, equally bogus conspiracy theories (“Hillary: Six Months to Live!”) to the completely batty (“Hillary Gains 103 Lbs!” as though the public wouldn’t notice if that had happened, and “Hillary Hitman Tells All.”)

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/12/national-inquirer-helped-trump-attacking-clinton/578116/

LL&P

it wouldn't surprise me if that were hillary's reaction. but it also wouldn't surprise me if she got really bitter about one of her political contemporaries getting there when she didn't. or possibly both at the same time.

JL

@russ,
i wonder how hillary clinton would feel about nancy pelosi becoming the first female president of the united states.

You know, I think HRC would laugh and laugh and laugh. I think she'd be pleased - the irony would be so profound as, next to Hillary herself, Nancy Pelosi is the most-hysterically-demonized-by-the-GOP Democrat out there (although AOC is the new runner-up).

@don,
you'd do better if you demanded pie.

@paula,
yep.

@cw,
i agree that it's a good deal for the time being. also agree that limiting terms on committee chairs may be a bridge too far this time around, but is a good thing to keep in mind for the future. by the way, shame on you for not supporting pie.

JL

Hey.... let a guy dream, won’t ‘cha?!?!