Comments on: ...Nor Excessive Fines Imposed... http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/ Reality-based political commentary Wed, 17 Jun 2026 03:33:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130388 Kick Fri, 30 Nov 2018 23:45:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130388 JL 11 <i>http://www.pbcommercial.com/opinion/20181129/mckee-cartoon-witch-hunt </i> Lying to Santa Mueller will net little Donny "Two Scoops" of coal (props to TS), but no worries since The Don hires only "the best people" and is assured repeatedly by them that the "witch hunt" will be over by Christmas... 2017! ;) Stop me if you've heard this, but there are multiple sealed indictments, and these shits will either make deals with Mueller or die in prison for what they've done. Buckle up for Little Donny Two Scoops throwing Junior Little Donny and Eric the Stupid One under the train tracks. :) JL
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http://www.pbcommercial.com/opinion/20181129/mckee-cartoon-witch-hunt

Lying to Santa Mueller will net little Donny "Two Scoops" of coal (props to TS), but no worries since The Don hires only "the best people" and is assured repeatedly by them that the "witch hunt" will be over by Christmas...

2017! ;)

Stop me if you've heard this, but there are multiple sealed indictments, and these shits will either make deals with Mueller or die in prison for what they've done. Buckle up for Little Donny Two Scoops throwing Junior Little Donny and Eric the Stupid One under the train tracks. :)

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130377 nypoet22 Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:53:38 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130377 @kick, http://www.pbcommercial.com/opinion/20181129/mckee-cartoon-witch-hunt JL @kick,

http://www.pbcommercial.com/opinion/20181129/mckee-cartoon-witch-hunt

JL

]]> By: Balthasar http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130368 Balthasar Fri, 30 Nov 2018 03:38:44 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130368 CW: All that I could think about as I read your article was, "where was the judiciary? This is only <i>now</i> reaching the top rung?" There's a twilight zone quality to that, given that SNL did a skit about it, like twenty years ago? It's all about the judges on the way up. Conservatives, bless their dark little hearts, have understood this for years. But their plans go awry whenever, you know, logic comes into it, and they end up being ruled against in some of their schemes by their own Judges (Roberts on Obamacare, for instance). Gorsuch was one of the most skeptical justices in this case, it's worth noting, considering that they stole the seat to get that vote. How ironic it would be if it turns out that he's Merrick Garland deep in his heart? heh. Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell, now even less popular in his home state than Ted Cruz, is holding the wildly popular and bipartisan Prison Reform Bill "prisoner"(as Mother Jones put it), and might not let it reach the Senate floor during the Lame Duck session. So a lot of progress is on the cusp, but hasn't happened yet. Democrats should remember that starting their celebrations too early has ruined many an event at this time of year, and that gifts shouldn't be counted upon until they're received. When you consider all of the things, in fact, that Democrats expect to have go right in the near future - the Mueller investigation, the New Congress, especially - it's important to remember that these things <i>haven't happened yet</i>. So let's not uncork that bubbly just yet, eh? It's gonna be a long holiday season this year. CW: All that I could think about as I read your article was, "where was the judiciary? This is only now reaching the top rung?" There's a twilight zone quality to that, given that SNL did a skit about it, like twenty years ago?

It's all about the judges on the way up.

Conservatives, bless their dark little hearts, have understood this for years. But their plans go awry whenever, you know, logic comes into it, and they end up being ruled against in some of their schemes by their own Judges (Roberts on Obamacare, for instance). Gorsuch was one of the most skeptical justices in this case, it's worth noting, considering that they stole the seat to get that vote. How ironic it would be if it turns out that he's Merrick Garland deep in his heart? heh.

Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell, now even less popular in his home state than Ted Cruz, is holding the wildly popular and bipartisan Prison Reform Bill "prisoner"(as Mother Jones put it), and might not let it reach the Senate floor during the Lame Duck session.

So a lot of progress is on the cusp, but hasn't happened yet.

Democrats should remember that starting their celebrations too early has ruined many an event at this time of year, and that gifts shouldn't be counted upon until they're received.

When you consider all of the things, in fact, that Democrats expect to have go right in the near future - the Mueller investigation, the New Congress, especially - it's important to remember that these things haven't happened yet.

So let's not uncork that bubbly just yet, eh? It's gonna be a long holiday season this year.

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130366 Kick Thu, 29 Nov 2018 22:37:38 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130366 Russ 8 <i>Big news today: Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about Trump’s desire to build a Trump Tower in Moscow! </i> Yes, sir. Looks like our so-called "witch hunt" just bagged yet another guilty plea. Who knew? <i>Trump claims he could do anything he wanted regarding Trump Co. and Russia while he was candidate, and it was all legal. So why lie about it? </i> Because "Benedict Donald." Russ
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Big news today: Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about Trump’s desire to build a Trump Tower in Moscow!

Yes, sir. Looks like our so-called "witch hunt" just bagged yet another guilty plea. Who knew?

Trump claims he could do anything he wanted regarding Trump Co. and Russia while he was candidate, and it was all legal. So why lie about it?

Because "Benedict Donald."

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130365 ListenWhenYouHear Thu, 29 Nov 2018 22:04:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130365 Big news today: Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about Trump’s desire to build a Trump Tower in Moscow! Trump claims he could do anything he wanted regarding Trump Co. and Russia while he was candidate, and it was all legal. So why lie about it? Big news today: Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about Trump’s desire to build a Trump Tower in Moscow!

Trump claims he could do anything he wanted regarding Trump Co. and Russia while he was candidate, and it was all legal. So why lie about it?

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130364 ListenWhenYouHear Thu, 29 Nov 2018 22:01:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130364 I thought Cotton was one who has to kiss the Koch ring to keep his job, so how can he be opposed to this? Is this simply a staged dramatic response for his public’s benefit? I thought Cotton was one who has to kiss the Koch ring to keep his job, so how can he be opposed to this? Is this simply a staged dramatic response for his public’s benefit?

]]> By: John M http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130362 John M Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:31:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130362 The real trick will be trying to overcome Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas's opposition to the criminal justice reform bill. He apparently is now pulling out all the stops to try to sink the bill, just like he did once before. The real trick will be trying to overcome Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas's opposition to the criminal justice reform bill. He apparently is now pulling out all the stops to try to sink the bill, just like he did once before.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130361 nypoet22 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:43:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130361 @cw, if you're going to address something off-topic, please comment on pie first. pie is much more interesting than anything don might demand, and is also tasty. JL @cw,

if you're going to address something off-topic, please comment on pie first. pie is much more interesting than anything don might demand, and is also tasty.

JL

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130360 nypoet22 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:39:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130360 @don, i agreed that your suggestion of a condorcet-borda hybrid could potentially be okay; whether or not it would be better than maine's system is something that i think needs to be researched and pilot-tested first. here is a discussion of condorcet and borda: http://theconversation.com/beyond-instant-runoff-a-better-way-to-conduct-multi-candidate-elections-74973 however, i disagree with your implication that maine's system is not an improvement over the plurality system. in my view, it's a step in the right direction, and should be commended. JL @don,

i agreed that your suggestion of a condorcet-borda hybrid could potentially be okay; whether or not it would be better than maine's system is something that i think needs to be researched and pilot-tested first. here is a discussion of condorcet and borda:

http://theconversation.com/beyond-instant-runoff-a-better-way-to-conduct-multi-candidate-elections-74973

however, i disagree with your implication that maine's system is not an improvement over the plurality system. in my view, it's a step in the right direction, and should be commended.

JL

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130357 TheStig Thu, 29 Nov 2018 12:59:31 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130357 I'm glad you bring asset forfeiture up now and again. It is an inherently corrupting practice that police forces become addicted to....which is ironic given that A.F. Is largely associated with drug trafficking. I'm glad you bring asset forfeiture up now and again. It is an inherently corrupting practice that police forces become addicted to....which is ironic given that A.F. Is largely associated with drug trafficking.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/11/28/nor-excessive-fines-imposed/#comment-130355 nypoet22 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 01:52:30 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=16153#comment-130355 in the original 1689 british version, the text was "nor excessive pies imposed," which of course meant meat pies. nonetheless, it is over 300 years of precedent for preventing excessive pie. in the original 1689 british version, the text was "nor excessive pies imposed," which of course meant meat pies. nonetheless, it is over 300 years of precedent for preventing excessive pie.

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