my premise is that it's disgust over Big Cake that explains why people don't vote, and they would flock to the polls if candidates favored pie.

as to donald's showdown with the special counsel investigation, i'm curious how far he'll have to go to get pelosi and co. to summon the guts to impeach. a hundred quatloos says donald will keep pushing the envelope until we find out.

JL

Balthasar[21] Historically, [Harris] might have picked the worst time since the Civil War to make [the preceding] argument to the contrary.

While I don't believe it to be true, Mr. Harris's whole premise is that it's disgust over Big Money that explains very generally why so many people don't vote. But I do believe that this is the worst time since the (last) civil war to even debate that premise.

Two realities obviate that debate, and falsify the assertion that this particular shift in power makes "little difference."

The first is the direct attack on the Special Counsel, which is now taking place in the DC Circuit, and in Trump's appointment to Acting Attorney General of a man on the record of seeking the disempowerment of the SC's investigation. This is only a problem if the office of the SC can survive until January. It is not at all certain that it can.

The second obviation is that Trump is no ordinary president, and the party of Trump is no ordinary gang of feckless, opportunistic, bought-and-paid-for politicians. Progressives believe that truth will prevail, and are befuddled by Trump and by his success. Giddiness over what, in fact, is a middling size midterm contra-presidential election, is distracting away from the real threat, and missing the real story.

The real story is that Trump is a cult leader, and fully 45% of voters voted with Trump. See Chris Hedges' essay for a description of the sense in which I assert that the president is a cult leader, here: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-cult-of-trump-2/

Unless there are enough Senators to counter this Attorney General offensive, and the other offensives certain to be launched in the next 60 days, there is a very good chance that Tomorrow Belongs to Trump.

i agree, donald has a very real chance at re-election, and it will take a candidate with real character and fortitude to defeat him in '20

JL

https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/4/0

Hope she can hold on and win that seat. :)

that one's not over yet. the republican hasn't conceded and there will probably be a recount.

Say what?! "Senator" Roy Moore hasn't conceded yet either. ;)

Well, okay, but it'll cost the candidate unless the recount reverses the results. The press sure called that one early... should have waited until all the 8,000+ absentee ballots were counted from Dona Ana.

John M, I'm not impressed or surprised. Acosta his flown close to the Sun a few times... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOowX1CKf-M

Acosta would never had been given the microphone yesterday unless Trump wanted an argument. I think it was a setup that Acosta fell into. One might say he was 'accosted'...

I wonder if Acosta will still be doing the Trump rallies?

LL&P

So 2018 is not in any way progress. It is more of the same.

So if I start dating Mila Kunis, become a celebrity myself thereby, and become moderately wealthy, that would probably begin to unravel as soon as we broke up.

So if I meet her today, it's not a big deal. Just another doe-eyed super-hot admirer to add to the list.

Or so goes the logic.

I even know how you arrived at that circular logic:

- Political parties that accept large donations are interchangeable - neither of the major parties curb donations, so a win for either is a win only for large donors.

- In recent years, one or the other major party has always held power in DC, so a shift in power to either is meaningless.

- Ergo, a win for either party is meaningless.

But here's the counter-argument:

- Corporate and big-ticket donors are not all cut from the same cloth. Generally, old industry favors Republicans, new industries favor Democrats. Big money donors come from all over the political spectrum - there are big-money independents, radicals, socialists, libertarians, and moderates, so assigning a single political philosophy to all of them is both inaccurate and misleading.

- Anyone with eyes and ears knows that the two major parties currently endorse very different political, economic and social, and even cultural policies. Historically, you might have picked the worst time since the Civil War to make an argument to the contrary.

- Knowing this, you can't apply the term 'meaningless' to the results of the election, regardless of your attitude toward the result. There are issues of life and death on the ballot, and yesterday's election changed millions of lives.

- Even removing all of the money from politics wouldn't guarantee that you'd end up with candidates of better character. Remember when Trump was pretending to 'self-finance' his campaign and take NO donations? He was lying, of course, but also illustrating the down-side of answering to no one.

The flaw in your logic is that it's based on an unsophisticated or myopic view of political reality: if money is the only part of the machine that concerns you, you're standing much too close to have an adequate and accurate view of the whole thing.

"pardon my general pessimism, i'm also curious what sorts of shenanigans will be rolled out by governor de santis to prevent the re-enfranchisement of floridians of color."

I guess will see. After Florida passed the constitutional amendments against gerrymandering, the Republican legislature still went ahead and did it anyway for the next two election cycles after that. It took the courts to step in to at least try to thwart and mitigate those shenanigans.

"And then...back in the Beltway, Trump railed against fake news, flabbergasted onlookers by insisting a black reporter's utterances were racist, fired his garden Gnome, Sessions and lied to the American people that the GOP had a great first Tuesday in November."

How about the Trump administration revoking CNN's Jim Acosta's press credentials?

C.W. do you think the press corp or FOX will push back?

In that regard in 2020, we might do better with a Beto O'Rourke rather than a Bernie Sanders or an Elizabeth Warren.

"Trump also had a good night.

I hope no one will be surprised when he's reelected n 2020."

Elizabeth, I think a lot of that depends on if Americans, particularly white Americans, can be prevailed upon and convinced to cast a vote based on their hopes instead of on their fears.

That's what happened here in Florida, where DeSantis, despite speaking at conferences hosted by white nationalists, still manged to win anyway by painting Gillum with the "scary socialist" brush and appealing to, not the hard core racist, but the casually racist and oblivious among us.

Like C.W. I hope that the restoration of voting rights to 1.4 million Floridians will help change this dynamic in two more years.

Also, as much as Don Harris might dislike this line of reasoning, I think Democrats are going to have to work on getting the support of at least some of the white investor class back, that Trump now has in his pocket along with his hardcore supporters. People may not vote entirely based on how the stock market is doing, but they do vote based on their own personal economics and how their 401K plans are doing, sometimes regardless of anything else. A lot of people still choose personal economic well being over larger issues of social justice. They hold their nose and ignore the rest.

What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?
Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?
He went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun
In case of accidents he always took his mom
He's the all-American bullet-headed Saxon mother's son
All the children sing
Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?
Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill, Bungalow Bill?
Deep in the jungle, where the mighty tiger lies
Bill and his elephants were taken by surprise
So Captain Marvel zapped him right between the eyes
All the children sing

Shameful.

LL&P

that one's not over yet. the republican hasn't conceded and there will probably be a recount.

Multiple media outlets had already called the race for the Republican earlier Tuesday, but there were over 8,000 provisional ballots. After those were counted, the Democrat won the seat.

http://nmpoliticalreport.com/2018/11/07/breaking-xochitl-torres-small-wins-2nd-congressional-district-race/

I meant that I don't see anyone else other than Biden whose name is already in the mix beating Trump in 2020 or, more importantly, beginning the important work again of forming a more perfect union.

If I was an eligible US voter in 2018/2020 I would vote Democrat straight down the line. But, that doesn't change my thinking that only an extremely capable and well-equipped Democratic presidential nominee will beat Trump, if he's still around.

Democrats are defending 12, Republicans 21 + Arizona to replace McCain.

The scenario faced in the Senate was near impossible at the outset and is largely the complete opposite in 2020 when Democrats will be defending 11 seats and Republicans will be defending a whopping 22.

Competitive Senate Races 2020

Alabama
Arizona
Colorado
Georgia
Iowa
Kansas ---> Not a typo; the new Governor is a Democrat.
Kentucky
Maine
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Montana
Texas ----> Beto 2.0?

Only two of the competitive seats are held by Democrats, and believe it or not, one of them is actually Alabama!

The election is November 3, 2020... less than 2 years away. Get your popcorn ready. ;)

Wait, what... y'all got summer all the time!? I want this!

I'm not sure this is what you intended, however it reads as though you would not vote for a Democrat in 2020 unless Biden wins the nomination (a moot point, I understand, but a pretty demoralizing one at this point in the proceedings before we've even seen who else is on the ballot).

This has a great rundown: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/11/07/50-things-that-went-very-well-on-election-day/

In the early part of the evening things were looking somewhat grim, but then things shifted and we started getting good news from several places. Scott Walker going down after he thought he'd won was especially sweet. Kris Kobach's loss was wonderful. Dana Rohrbacher and David Brat, etc.

All in all I woke up today feeling like we have weapons now we didn't have before last night - and we need them, as Tiny melted down in his presser today and then fired Jeff Sessions. The inevitable showdown is looming - it would have happened whether we took the House or not but since we have the House we are much better positioned to respond.

Also, a bunch of GOP Senators face re-election in 2020, so their opponents will begin running against them in the next several months and how these Senators deal with Tiny and Mueller will become fodder for those Dem opponents. Mueller is viewed positively by a majority of Americans and I suspect that will mute support for Tiny's worst excesses. And Tiny will lash out at them in response if they don't slavishly back him. I think what GOP Senators were willing to back changed after last night. A lot of DT-syncophantic candidates LOST.

Tiny's actions today are those of a frightened man. As one person put it on twitter: "we now enter the cornered rat phase." Again, this has been in the cards all along. Let's get it over with.

So glad we're back to the old familiar outrages...

Well done my furry friends...you came through in the clinch. I'm proud to be in your company, balsy, motivated and ready to get stuck into the issues.

Well done.

LL&P

I hope no one will be surprised when he's reelected n 2020.

Because, I'm pretty sure voters won't choose Biden to be the Democratic nominee. Call me surprised and relieved not to mention bouncing off the walls if he is.

Meanwhile, this is serious.