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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/10/24/the-10-middle-class-tax-cut-five-year-plan/#comment-129698</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balthazar [7] -

Dang, that would make perfect sense, because it would -- yet again -- be a &quot;middle class tax cut&quot; that largely benefited the wealthiest.  Par for the GOP course, in other words.

I hadn&#039;t heard this yet, but again, it certainly wouldn&#039;t surprise me.  Thanks for pointing it out.

Mezzomamma [8] -

I&#039;ve written about this before, can dig the link out if necessary.  Interesting tidbit: when polled, something like 95% of Americans say they are middle class.  The upper-mc and above don&#039;t like to think of themselves as &quot;rich.&quot; The lower middle class and below don&#039;t like to think of themselves as &quot;poor.&quot;  So just about everybody thinks they&#039;re in the middle class.

What set me off were Democrats who were proposing adjusting the cap on Social Security so that those making below roughly $120K/yr would pay full price, those making above $250K/yr would pay almost the full price, but those in the $120-250K donut hole would still get a big tax break and pay a far lower percentage than everyone else.  Funnily enough, these are the people who regularly make political donations to the parties.  Maybe it&#039;s just me, but making a quarter-million a year is above where I&#039;d define &quot;middle-class&quot; personally.

Like I said if you&#039;re interested, I can dig out the link.

And as for [12] -

Didn&#039;t I hear that &quot;Game of Thrones&quot; was based loosely on the War Of The Roses?  There is indeed nothing new under the sun.  Heh.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balthazar [7] -</p>
<p>Dang, that would make perfect sense, because it would -- yet again -- be a "middle class tax cut" that largely benefited the wealthiest.  Par for the GOP course, in other words.</p>
<p>I hadn't heard this yet, but again, it certainly wouldn't surprise me.  Thanks for pointing it out.</p>
<p>Mezzomamma [8] -</p>
<p>I've written about this before, can dig the link out if necessary.  Interesting tidbit: when polled, something like 95% of Americans say they are middle class.  The upper-mc and above don't like to think of themselves as "rich." The lower middle class and below don't like to think of themselves as "poor."  So just about everybody thinks they're in the middle class.</p>
<p>What set me off were Democrats who were proposing adjusting the cap on Social Security so that those making below roughly $120K/yr would pay full price, those making above $250K/yr would pay almost the full price, but those in the $120-250K donut hole would still get a big tax break and pay a far lower percentage than everyone else.  Funnily enough, these are the people who regularly make political donations to the parties.  Maybe it's just me, but making a quarter-million a year is above where I'd define "middle-class" personally.</p>
<p>Like I said if you're interested, I can dig out the link.</p>
<p>And as for [12] -</p>
<p>Didn't I hear that "Game of Thrones" was based loosely on the War Of The Roses?  There is indeed nothing new under the sun.  Heh.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Mezzomamma</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/10/24/the-10-middle-class-tax-cut-five-year-plan/#comment-129696</link>
		<dc:creator>Mezzomamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 19:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just finished reading the latest Shardlake book, &lt;i&gt;Tombland&lt;/i&gt;, by C. J. Sansom. Like all her books, it was anything but a cozy look at Tudor England (Edward VI in this case). It is all too relevant to the present day, especially the pursuit of wealth, position and power at the expense of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've just finished reading the latest Shardlake book, <i>Tombland</i>, by C. J. Sansom. Like all her books, it was anything but a cozy look at Tudor England (Edward VI in this case). It is all too relevant to the present day, especially the pursuit of wealth, position and power at the expense of others.</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/10/24/the-10-middle-class-tax-cut-five-year-plan/#comment-129692</link>
		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Domestic pipe bomb terrorism fanned by Kaptain Khaos seems to stealing airtime and headlines from his back-of-the-Denny&#039;s-Menu Five Year Tax Plan.  So it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domestic pipe bomb terrorism fanned by Kaptain Khaos seems to stealing airtime and headlines from his back-of-the-Denny's-Menu Five Year Tax Plan.  So it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mezzo, NYP

The Small Business Admin. defintion includes businesses up to 1500 employees with up to $57M in revenue averaged over 3 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mezzo, NYP</p>
<p>The Small Business Admin. defintion includes businesses up to 1500 employees with up to $57M in revenue averaged over 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 09:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mezzo,

good point. &quot;middle&quot; class is kind-of like &quot;small&quot; business. once you get into the nitty gritty, there are a lot of people the legislators include that most of us would not.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mezzo,</p>
<p>good point. "middle" class is kind-of like "small" business. once you get into the nitty gritty, there are a lot of people the legislators include that most of us would not.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Mezzomamma</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/10/24/the-10-middle-class-tax-cut-five-year-plan/#comment-129686</link>
		<dc:creator>Mezzomamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 05:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how the current administration and legislative flunkies define &#039;middle class&#039; in the first place. It&#039;s a poorly defined concept anyhow: white collar workers? average income band? median income band? education level? home ownership? 

But I&#039;ll bet a whole pecan pie that their &#039;middle class&#039; is richer than anyone else&#039;s middle class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how the current administration and legislative flunkies define 'middle class' in the first place. It's a poorly defined concept anyhow: white collar workers? average income band? median income band? education level? home ownership? </p>
<p>But I'll bet a whole pecan pie that their 'middle class' is richer than anyone else's middle class.</p>
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		<title>By: Balthasar</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/10/24/the-10-middle-class-tax-cut-five-year-plan/#comment-129683</link>
		<dc:creator>Balthasar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 03:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I heard a guest on NPR&#039;s &#039;marketplace&#039; discuss a plan that has been floating around conservative circles. It appears that some rich Republican doners don&#039;t actually care as much about income taxes as they do about Capital Gains taxes.

The proposal was to cut the Capital Gains tax by 10%, and sell it as a middle-class tax cut, reasoning that millions of middle class Americans own &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; stocks at least, and they numerically outnumber rich investors, so it&#039;s a middle class tax cut, right?

This is the sort of thing that would perk Trump&#039;s ears up, since it would benefit him directly. He&#039;s jumped the gun on policy proposals before, after all.

Then again, he&#039;s also not above spewing pure bullshit in order to get votes, so there&#039;s that...

In other words, don&#039;t assume that Trump&#039;s congressional allies will even &lt;i&gt;consider&lt;/i&gt; an actual middle class tax cut anytime soon, no matter what shit Trump tells his faithful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I heard a guest on NPR's 'marketplace' discuss a plan that has been floating around conservative circles. It appears that some rich Republican doners don't actually care as much about income taxes as they do about Capital Gains taxes.</p>
<p>The proposal was to cut the Capital Gains tax by 10%, and sell it as a middle-class tax cut, reasoning that millions of middle class Americans own <i>some</i> stocks at least, and they numerically outnumber rich investors, so it's a middle class tax cut, right?</p>
<p>This is the sort of thing that would perk Trump's ears up, since it would benefit him directly. He's jumped the gun on policy proposals before, after all.</p>
<p>Then again, he's also not above spewing pure bullshit in order to get votes, so there's that...</p>
<p>In other words, don't assume that Trump's congressional allies will even <i>consider</i> an actual middle class tax cut anytime soon, no matter what shit Trump tells his faithful.</p>
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		<title>By: Balthasar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balthasar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 03:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You probably missed this post:

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/10/23/two-weeks-to-go/#comment-129681</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You probably missed this post:</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 02:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paula
3&#124;4

&lt;i&gt;Hey Gang: this clip is PRICELESS! 

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/105526539317287321

Watch Mayor Andrew Gillum neatly disembowel DeSantis. &lt;/i&gt;

Ooooh… burn. He really did disembowel DeSantis. How will he eat pie now?

&lt;i&gt;I&#039;d buy a lot of pie from Mayor Gillum! &lt;/i&gt;

Not me, nope... *shakes head*… but I will buy a whole bakery of pies from &lt;b&gt;Governor Gillum&lt;/b&gt;. DeSantis is so done. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paula<br />
3|4</p>
<p><i>Hey Gang: this clip is PRICELESS! </p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/105526539317287321" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/105526539317287321</a></p>
<p>Watch Mayor Andrew Gillum neatly disembowel DeSantis. </i></p>
<p>Ooooh… burn. He really did disembowel DeSantis. How will he eat pie now?</p>
<p><i>I'd buy a lot of pie from Mayor Gillum! </i></p>
<p>Not me, nope... *shakes head*… but I will buy a whole bakery of pies from <b>Governor Gillum</b>. DeSantis is so done. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 01:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d buy a lot of pie from Mayor Gillum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd buy a lot of pie from Mayor Gillum!</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 01:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gang: this clip is PRICELESS! 

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1055265393172873216

Watch Mayor Andrew Gillum neatly disembowel DeSantis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gang: this clip is PRICELESS! </p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1055265393172873216" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1055265393172873216</a></p>
<p>Watch Mayor Andrew Gillum neatly disembowel DeSantis.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 00:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you think maybe someone trump listens to could convince him to pass a targeted tax cut on pie? i mean yeah, it might technically qualify as a power reserved to the states, but come on, it&#039;s PIE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you think maybe someone trump listens to could convince him to pass a targeted tax cut on pie? i mean yeah, it might technically qualify as a power reserved to the states, but come on, it's PIE!</p>
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