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		<title>By: ChrisWeigant.com &#187; Friday Talking Points -- Democrats&#39; Closing Midterm Argument</title>
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		<title>By: ListenWhenYouHear</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2018 22:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nypoet22 

Did you read Dana Millbank’s article in WAPO about that?  I normally like his articles, but that was the dumbest thing I have ever read!  I kept thinking that it was just bad sarcasm on his part, but I think he was serious when he said that she is unfit for office because of some pie recipe!  

kick [12]

LOVED IT!   Loved every word of it!</description>
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<p>Did you read Dana Millbank’s article in WAPO about that?  I normally like his articles, but that was the dumbest thing I have ever read!  I kept thinking that it was just bad sarcasm on his part, but I think he was serious when he said that she is unfit for office because of some pie recipe!  </p>
<p>kick [12]</p>
<p>LOVED IT!   Loved every word of it!</p>
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		<title>By: Kick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL
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I heard that Senator Warren intentionally misrepresented her so-called family lemonade recipe. She said it was passed down from her six times removed grandmother, but in fact it was a powdered lemonade mix. I will only vote for genuine pro-lemonade candidates, and so should you. 

If you agree, send $200 or less -- and not a penny more or you&#039;re a Big Money Satan Hitler Worshipper -- to pro-lemonade candidates. Also, since there are none in existence, write in &quot;Don Lemon&quot; for every office on your ballot. 

CW: Why haven&#039;t you written about my lemonade venture yet? I can do this as long as you can. Ralph Tater said so. :)</description>
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<p>I heard that Senator Warren intentionally misrepresented her so-called family lemonade recipe. She said it was passed down from her six times removed grandmother, but in fact it was a powdered lemonade mix. I will only vote for genuine pro-lemonade candidates, and so should you. </p>
<p>If you agree, send $200 or less -- and not a penny more or you're a Big Money Satan Hitler Worshipper -- to pro-lemonade candidates. Also, since there are none in existence, write in "Don Lemon" for every office on your ballot. </p>
<p>CW: Why haven't you written about my lemonade venture yet? I can do this as long as you can. Ralph Tater said so. :)</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that senator warren intentionally misrepresented her so-called family pie recipe. she said it was passed down from her six times removed grandmother, but in fact it was a powdered pie mix. i will only vote for genuine pro-pie candidates, and so should you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that senator warren intentionally misrepresented her so-called family pie recipe. she said it was passed down from her six times removed grandmother, but in fact it was a powdered pie mix. i will only vote for genuine pro-pie candidates, and so should you.</p>
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		<title>By: ListenWhenYouHear</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2018 06:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I have read on other message boards, the Cherokee Tribe has long taken issue with Harvard promoting that Warren was their first Native American female on staff.  Warren disclosed this AFTER she was already on staff, so it isn’t like she was hired because of her heritage.  It does, however, sound like it was the school administration’s attempt to play up her heritage that got the tribe pissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I have read on other message boards, the Cherokee Tribe has long taken issue with Harvard promoting that Warren was their first Native American female on staff.  Warren disclosed this AFTER she was already on staff, so it isn’t like she was hired because of her heritage.  It does, however, sound like it was the school administration’s attempt to play up her heritage that got the tribe pissed.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWeigant.com &#187; Powers Of Two</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 23:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Balthasar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balthasar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 20:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to link to Nagle&#039;s Op-ed in [8]:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-elizabeth-warren-native-american-identity_us_5bb4e922e4b0876eda9a72e1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to link to Nagle's Op-ed in [8]:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-elizabeth-warren-native-american-identity_us_5bb4e922e4b0876eda9a72e1" rel="nofollow">https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-elizabeth-warren-native-american-identity_us_5bb4e922e4b0876eda9a72e1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Balthasar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balthasar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 20:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what I&#039;ve found most interesting about the debate about Warren&#039;s ancestry are the dissenting voices from the Native American community who have rushed to the cameras to find fault with Warren for proving the only assertion that she ever made - that an ancestor might have been Native American.

In an op-ed written Oct. 3 (before Warren released her DNA test), activist Rebecca Nagle describes some of the many ways in which the Trump administration has managed to include Native Americans in its general attack on American minorities:

&quot;The politics of who is and who is not Indian has real consequences. Last month in Warren’s home state of Massachusetts, the Mashpee Wampanoag — the tribe that welcomed the Pilgrims — had their land taken out of trust because, according to the Department of the Interior, they no longer fit the legal definition of “Indian.” While the Mashpee Wampanoag are fighting for their treaty rights, a white man is suing the state of Washington to grant him status as a minority business owner based on the results of his DNA test. He tested as only 6 percent Indigenous.

The Trump administration’s action against the Wampanoag is the first time tribal land has been taken out of trust since Harry Truman’s presidency. Since taking office, Donald Trump has also moved to limit Medicaid access to Native Americans, diminished the Bears Ears National Monument, greenlighted the controversial Dakota Access pipeline, petitioned the Supreme Court to overturn the treaty rights of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation and suggested privatizing all remaining tribal land. Natives need an ally in the White House.&quot;

Keep that last sentence in mind as you read the rest of this.

Also part of that Op-ed was this paragraph:

&quot;The issue with Warren is not that she isn’t on any rolls, that her nonexistent blood quantum is too low, that she can’t pass a DNA test or that we lack information about her family. The issue is that she claims to have a Native ancestor when there are none.&quot;

So what does Nagle have to say now that Warren has proven that her family story was correct? Well, she&#039;s been tweeting:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Since when did the Left become champions of pseudo science about the inherent biology of race? #ElizabethWarren relying on DNA test results is extremely problematic given our current political climate.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

But Nagle &lt;i&gt;specifically cited&lt;/i&gt; Warren&#039;s supposed &#039;failure&#039; to &#039;pass&#039; a DNA test.

Then she tweets:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;While #ElizabethWarren no longer identifies herself as Native, she still publicly claims her family is “part Native American”. There is nothing innocent about a White woman claiming her family experienced genocide and ethnic cleansing--when they did not.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This is when you know that someone has lost an argument, when they start knocking down straw men to make their case. Warren hasn&#039;t to my knowledge made those claims, and even if she had, what proof would Nagle have that Warren&#039;s ancestor &lt;i&gt;hadn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; had a brush with genocide? If europeans were around, so were weapons and smallpox.

Sad to say, the actual motivation behind Nagle&#039;s rejection of Warren may not actually be anything that Warren has said at all:

&lt;i&gt;
Rebecca Nagle @rebeccanagle
2h2 hours ago

This is why this debate NEEDS TO STOP. The racist vitriol isn&#039;t targeted at #ElizabethWarren and it CANNOT be because she is WHITE. Its targeted at actual Native people. #NativeTwitter &lt;/i&gt;

I get it. This is what tribal politics really is. Native Americans have gotten a raw deal, one of the worst, but even that sad history doesn&#039;t mean that only certified Native Americans get to acknowledge their Native American ancestry. Nagle and others who would assert that Warren has failed their purity test have to answer to their fellow tribe members whey they aren&#039;t rather using this as an opportunity to make Warren an ally, something that I&#039;m sure she&#039;s willing to do. The only real skill in politics is finding commonalities among people that aren&#039;t at all alike, and making common cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what I've found most interesting about the debate about Warren's ancestry are the dissenting voices from the Native American community who have rushed to the cameras to find fault with Warren for proving the only assertion that she ever made - that an ancestor might have been Native American.</p>
<p>In an op-ed written Oct. 3 (before Warren released her DNA test), activist Rebecca Nagle describes some of the many ways in which the Trump administration has managed to include Native Americans in its general attack on American minorities:</p>
<p>"The politics of who is and who is not Indian has real consequences. Last month in Warren’s home state of Massachusetts, the Mashpee Wampanoag — the tribe that welcomed the Pilgrims — had their land taken out of trust because, according to the Department of the Interior, they no longer fit the legal definition of “Indian.” While the Mashpee Wampanoag are fighting for their treaty rights, a white man is suing the state of Washington to grant him status as a minority business owner based on the results of his DNA test. He tested as only 6 percent Indigenous.</p>
<p>The Trump administration’s action against the Wampanoag is the first time tribal land has been taken out of trust since Harry Truman’s presidency. Since taking office, Donald Trump has also moved to limit Medicaid access to Native Americans, diminished the Bears Ears National Monument, greenlighted the controversial Dakota Access pipeline, petitioned the Supreme Court to overturn the treaty rights of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation and suggested privatizing all remaining tribal land. Natives need an ally in the White House."</p>
<p>Keep that last sentence in mind as you read the rest of this.</p>
<p>Also part of that Op-ed was this paragraph:</p>
<p>"The issue with Warren is not that she isn’t on any rolls, that her nonexistent blood quantum is too low, that she can’t pass a DNA test or that we lack information about her family. The issue is that she claims to have a Native ancestor when there are none."</p>
<p>So what does Nagle have to say now that Warren has proven that her family story was correct? Well, she's been tweeting:</p>
<p><i>"Since when did the Left become champions of pseudo science about the inherent biology of race? #ElizabethWarren relying on DNA test results is extremely problematic given our current political climate."</i></p>
<p>But Nagle <i>specifically cited</i> Warren's supposed 'failure' to 'pass' a DNA test.</p>
<p>Then she tweets:</p>
<p><i>"While #ElizabethWarren no longer identifies herself as Native, she still publicly claims her family is “part Native American”. There is nothing innocent about a White woman claiming her family experienced genocide and ethnic cleansing--when they did not."</i></p>
<p>This is when you know that someone has lost an argument, when they start knocking down straw men to make their case. Warren hasn't to my knowledge made those claims, and even if she had, what proof would Nagle have that Warren's ancestor <i>hadn't</i> had a brush with genocide? If europeans were around, so were weapons and smallpox.</p>
<p>Sad to say, the actual motivation behind Nagle's rejection of Warren may not actually be anything that Warren has said at all:</p>
<p><i><br />
Rebecca Nagle @rebeccanagle<br />
2h2 hours ago</p>
<p>This is why this debate NEEDS TO STOP. The racist vitriol isn't targeted at #ElizabethWarren and it CANNOT be because she is WHITE. Its targeted at actual Native people. #NativeTwitter </i></p>
<p>I get it. This is what tribal politics really is. Native Americans have gotten a raw deal, one of the worst, but even that sad history doesn't mean that only certified Native Americans get to acknowledge their Native American ancestry. Nagle and others who would assert that Warren has failed their purity test have to answer to their fellow tribe members whey they aren't rather using this as an opportunity to make Warren an ally, something that I'm sure she's willing to do. The only real skill in politics is finding commonalities among people that aren't at all alike, and making common cause.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my quatloos are on cory booker. while i would love for warren to be president, i agree with JTC that if she were the nominee the US would probably choose a second term of trump, which i would not love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my quatloos are on cory booker. while i would love for warren to be president, i agree with JTC that if she were the nominee the US would probably choose a second term of trump, which i would not love.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANNOUNCEMENT: 

In honor of Stormy Daniels, I will now cease referring to DJT as &quot;Blotus&quot; and begin calling him &quot;Tiny&quot;. 

h/t TheStig: &quot;Blotus&quot; had a good run! One of your best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANNOUNCEMENT: </p>
<p>In honor of Stormy Daniels, I will now cease referring to DJT as "Blotus" and begin calling him "Tiny". </p>
<p>h/t TheStig: "Blotus" had a good run! One of your best!</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 13:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE-4

Trump will never reveal his own DNA data.  Too chicken. Cuck-cuck-cuck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE-4</p>
<p>Trump will never reveal his own DNA data.  Too chicken. Cuck-cuck-cuck!</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 12:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hunch Trump is carrying more than an average American&#039;s amount of Neanderthal DNA. God loves a good joke.  Replace God with Fate if you are an atheist. 

Take the test Trump!...and pay your 1M$ gambling debt.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hunch Trump is carrying more than an average American's amount of Neanderthal DNA. God loves a good joke.  Replace God with Fate if you are an atheist. </p>
<p>Take the test Trump!...and pay your 1M$ gambling debt.</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: James T Canuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>James T Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 04:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addendum.

Warren isn&#039;t a good choice to throw at Trump in 2020, we already know that a complete arsehole like Trump is preferable to any eminently qualified in the eyes of the American electorate. 

The notion that Trump mentions her (and therefore is worried about her) is part of his &#039;tell&#039;. Trump doesn&#039;t draw too much attention to the things foremost on his mind. He likes to distract, prevaricate and delude...Notice how Cohen, Manafort and especially the SDNY has fallen from Trump&#039;s national agenda? 


Plus, we all know Trump will shrink back from this latest Saudi act of heinousness, because we all know the Saudi&#039;s business model... overwhelm with bribery, then negotiate on their terms. I wasn&#039;t surprised Trump made a B-line for the kingdom as president, if anyone is up for easy cash in exchange for a few &#039;pork pies&#039;, it&#039;s Trump, to be sure.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum.</p>
<p>Warren isn't a good choice to throw at Trump in 2020, we already know that a complete arsehole like Trump is preferable to any eminently qualified in the eyes of the American electorate. </p>
<p>The notion that Trump mentions her (and therefore is worried about her) is part of his 'tell'. Trump doesn't draw too much attention to the things foremost on his mind. He likes to distract, prevaricate and delude...Notice how Cohen, Manafort and especially the SDNY has fallen from Trump's national agenda? </p>
<p>Plus, we all know Trump will shrink back from this latest Saudi act of heinousness, because we all know the Saudi's business model... overwhelm with bribery, then negotiate on their terms. I wasn't surprised Trump made a B-line for the kingdom as president, if anyone is up for easy cash in exchange for a few 'pork pies', it's Trump, to be sure.</p>
<p>LL&amp;P</p>
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		<title>By: James T Canuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>James T Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2018 03:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C.W … Nice... &quot; What is it with Democrats having to now not only prove where they were born but also their family&#039;s DNA structure back six generations? Has any Republican endured such scrutiny, ever?&quot; 


It&#039;s as simple as you say(ish), the GOP seem to be tethered to the one (two, if you include a lust for power, god and cash), thing... Bigotry. 



Tbh, I&#039;m flabbergasted at the mere mention of &#039;a woman of substance&#039; acquiring both academic and professional acclaim based on anything other than ability and hard work. Coming from a family of women academics, I just don&#039;t have exposure to women I don&#039;t consider my equals. One only has to understand the original premise of &#039;Coronation Street&#039; to get why, in my culture, women are up to any challenge of a man, while still raising a brood of kids. 

We have two world wars to thank for that.


Hillary Clinton may have had a &#039;glass ceiling&#039;. Trump has a glass house. One only has to flip back two generations to find a sleazy draft dodging whorehouse owner and a war profiteer and tax evader...


It can never be said that Trump doesn&#039;t, at least, come by his repellent character honestly.    


LL&amp;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C.W … Nice... " What is it with Democrats having to now not only prove where they were born but also their family's DNA structure back six generations? Has any Republican endured such scrutiny, ever?" </p>
<p>It's as simple as you say(ish), the GOP seem to be tethered to the one (two, if you include a lust for power, god and cash), thing... Bigotry. </p>
<p>Tbh, I'm flabbergasted at the mere mention of 'a woman of substance' acquiring both academic and professional acclaim based on anything other than ability and hard work. Coming from a family of women academics, I just don't have exposure to women I don't consider my equals. One only has to understand the original premise of 'Coronation Street' to get why, in my culture, women are up to any challenge of a man, while still raising a brood of kids. </p>
<p>We have two world wars to thank for that.</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton may have had a 'glass ceiling'. Trump has a glass house. One only has to flip back two generations to find a sleazy draft dodging whorehouse owner and a war profiteer and tax evader...</p>
<p>It can never be said that Trump doesn't, at least, come by his repellent character honestly.    </p>
<p>LL&amp;P</p>
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