Well, I'm glad you did, Paula - I'll check it out more often.

Yes, ma'am. All of the above. :)

I wasn't going to bother to defend or describe John Cole since E's reaction struck me as either stupid or perhaps a misfired attempt at a joke and I didn't want to hurt her delicate feelings if the latter.

Irregardless, now that Avenatti's accuser has come forward with her account of gang rapes and drunken-mean-Kavanaugh at parties I must congratulate myself. What Cole talks about in the post I referenced is a perfect backdrop to her allegations.

Still waiting for you to provide **ANY** facts to support your bullshit claim that people who supported Judge Kavanaugh have recanted and withdrew their support..

You CAN'T because it's totally made up bullshit yer spewing..

balloon juice dot com?

Seriously?

Why can't people just ignore what they don't want to read here by people they don't like without always making a big issue out of it.

If you (generic you) can't do that, then you are part of the problem (general disrespect) that plagues this site.

~ Elizabeth Miller

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/09/14/ftp500/#comment-127106

Nice post.

These people will go to ANY ridiculous outlet, if it will say what they want to hear.. ~ Michale

Hey, Paula: What does it say about the critical thinking skills of a commenter on a political blog who would refer to a political blog as a "ridiculous outlet"? *facepalm* *shakes head*

https://ordinary-times.com/2009/11/16/the-evolution-of-blogging-an-interview-with-john-cole/

Seriously?

I know, right!!!!

That's even more hilarious than getting political news from Sports Betting Dot Com

These people will go to ANY ridiculous outlet, if it will say what they want to hear..

Seriously?

John Cole writes about being just the kind of jerk Kavanaugh was, back in HS and college.

The most irritating thing about the whole Kavanaugh bullshit is that I know with every fiber of my being that he did everything he is being accused of, and the reason I know this is because I was one of those special kinds of asshole drunks that he palled around with for years. I never sexually assaulted anyone, and I didn’t whip my dick out at anyone, although I have a buddy who did the EXACT same thing at a party and I have another friend who stuck his dick on the bar on top of a ten dollar bill. I would never have done anything like that because I was a drunk even back then and would never do anything to risk being banned from the only bar on campus...

He’s lying. He was a fall down drunk with a bunch of rich prep school boys who were also fall down drunks. There were no rules, no consequences, and no boundaries, because they were a bunch of the untouchables. Little Geoffrey Baratheons in blue blazers having their way with the world and smirking through life as royalty...

memory encodes differently depending on the chemicals in your blood. When someone fears for their life and health they're a lot more likely to remember the event than someone who is just fooling around

I am in total agreement with you. But if Ford’s account is true, then I believe that Kavanaugh would remember it for one reason: he covered her mouth to prevent her from screaming. He wasn’t so drunk that he wasn’t aware of what would have happened if she had screamed and people had run to her aid.

That moment of thinking that he might get caught unless he was able to keep her quiet would be enough to make it stick in his memories. If he can do something that horrible and it not stick with him, then he definitely doesn’t belong on the Supreme Court.

"Sure, but we'd need paper and a pencil"

"What are those for, Bullwinkle?"

"It's a draw-bridge."

One step at a time.

Or

We'll throw him off that bridge when we get there.

Hmmm, that would make a pretty good Rocky & Bullwinkle episode title and subtitle...

Nicht zu rostig. :)

Diese Wiederholung funktioniert für die leichtgläubigen Idioten, und sie sind ignorant genug zu glauben, dass es für intelligente Menschen funktioniert. :)

Ein offensichtliches Zitat. Vertrauen Sie dem Idioten, was er-davon hat... Lol

;)

LL&P

Unless there is an unknown medical issue that Kavanaugh suffered from that made him physically incapable of doing the things he is accused of, there is no way for any of those 200 people to claim that they know that he could not have physically assaulted Ford. They didn’t “testify” as their name being on a letter doesn’t satisfy the penalty of perjury requirement.

Also, Kavanaugh played football around the time he was accused of the assault. How could he NOT be capable of doing those things he is accused of, but capable of playing football?

I said the same thing, but then I did what I always do, get the background info...I knew the Russkies were in play (with or without Trump's collusion, to be fair...that remains to be seen) and I knew the religious right-wing would flock to his cause when he announced his SCOTUS short-list...

Trump's usefulness for the religious right will evaporate once SCOTUS is secured, mark my words and mark them well. Living in a sham-democracy-theocracy sucks the big ball.

LL&P

Or he's being 'babysat' until this blows over... Again, I implore people to read some of this toe-rags written work. He's a slow motion plane crash... he's been touted as a 'source of denial' and marginalised simultaneously by the right-wing camp. He'd be a worse witness than if a murderer had their astrologer on the stand saying it's in the cards you won't be a recidivist...

LL&P

or suffer the obvious 'bwahahaha's'.

OR...

It will be like 2016 when I said over and over and over again that Trump was going to be elected POTUS..

Then it was MY 'bwahahaha's' that were heard far and wide...

You'll see... She's gonna make some flimsy excuse as to a ridiculous detail and she is going to bail..

I'll (try) and refrain from the 'bwahahaha's'... But you WILL hear a lot of I TOLD YA SOs.. :D

But hay, if I am wrong?? Your 'bwahahaha's' will be well deserved.. :D

"If I'm wrong, nothing happens!! We go to jail.. Peaceful... Quietly... We'll enjoy it!"
-Dr Peter Venkmen, GHOSTBUSTERS

More thin ice, my "truth Padawan".

You can recant that idiotic belief anytime between now and her clearing her throat in committee.

or suffer the obvious 'bwahahaha's'.

:)

LL&P

"Lieutenant, I am half Vulcan. Vulcans do not speculate. I speak from pure logic. If I let go of a hammer on a planet that has a positive gravity, I need not see it fall to know that it has in fact fallen. Human beings have characteristics just as inanimate objects do. It is impossible for Captain Kirk to act out of panic or malice. It is not his nature."
-Commander Spock, STAR TREK, Court Martial

Over 200 people, who KNEW Kavanaugh back then have "testified" under penalty of law, that Kavanaugh was and is simply NOT capable of doing the things he is accused of... "It is not his nature"...

# of people who have supported the so-called victim under penalty of law??

ZERO....

Mark Judge hiding out. Not inclined to rush to Kavanaugh's defense. One of the interesting things about this whole debacle is that there appears to be a whole bunch of witnesses/near-witnesses, unlike the classic he-said/she-said. The behaviors he's accused of all appear to have taken place in group settings where people told each other about events. Kavanaugh apparently hung out with people and in places that were "notorious". Dr. Ford appears to be one of many victims and they are starting to find each other. Which means they may start pointing to other attackers who were part of this gang and culture.

No, I am saying that there are no FACTS to support her allegation..

Surely you are not saying that ALLEGATION = FACT...

Are you???

The FACT is, the ALLEGATION AND THE DENIAL, are the only facts in operation.

Not at all.. There are TONS of other facts..

For example, it's a FACT that over 200 people who have KNOWN Kavanaugh for over 40 years have said that this action is simply not possible for Kavanaugh to have done..

Like it or not, without even a half-arsed investigation of the allegation,

Democrats had THREE MONTHS to do that investigation.. If it's soo important as you claim, WHY WASN'T IT DONE!!???

I'll believe any corroborative testimony, under oath, of any people willing to talk for either side...

Actually, there has been people talking and writing under penalty of law and THEY all support Kavanaugh...

# of people who have talked or wrote under penalty of law in support of the so-called "victim"?? ZERO

There are TONS of facts to support Kavanaugh's denial and there are ZERO facts to support the so-called "victim"'s accusation.

This is fact...

So, are you saying that ABC et al DIDN'T say those things??

Do you want to see it on THEIR web sites???

What they hear is another accusation that needs to be aired, assessed, and investigated. Skepticism is premature.

Yea, that's not what Democrats said when Juanita Brodderick, Kathleen Wiley and Paula Jones came forward.

That is NOT what Democrats are saying now about Keith Ellison's accuser..

Funny, eh? :D

The FACT is, the ALLEGATION AND THE DENIAL, are the only facts in operation. Why is that so hard to comprehend? it's the only thing everyone can agree on.

Like it or not, without even a half-arsed investigation of the allegation, that's where the facts stop... I don't believe her, I don't believe him, but I'll believe any corroborative testimony, under oath, of any people willing to talk for either side... let's see who volunteers to tell actual truth, under oath, on pain of conviction and jail in an open or closed setting.

That's as fair an equal as it gets. To think otherwise is UN-AMERICAN!!!!!

LL&P

..or so says another right wing hack. Don't take your sycophantic press' word for it, Democrats are perfectly capable of deciding when they're skeptical.

What they hear is another accusation that needs to be aired, assessed, and investigated. Skepticism is premature.

.

Even LIBERALS are skeptical of this new accusation..

THAT says something...

AND everything associated with that event..

The date, the time, where exactly it was, how she got there, how she got home, what clothes she was wearing...

All of these details are non-existent in this so-called "victim"'s case....

Interesting.. "After talking with my attorney, I became sure it was Kavanaugh..."

Reminds me of an old MAD MAGAZINE cartoon where a women was asked how long she had to wear her neck brace from a car accident..

"All the doctors agree. I can take it off as soon as my case is settled in court"

:^/

memory encodes differently depending on the chemicals in your blood. When someone fears for their life and health they're a lot more likely to remember the event than someone who is just fooling around. if ford's account is accurate (and as yet there's no definitive proof either for or against), it's highly likely that she remembers it a whole lot more vividly than he does. alcohol in the bloodstream can interfere with memory encoding in both cases depending on the levels of intoxication, but neurotransmitters and adrenaline can override most of the effects of intoxication to burn an event in an individual's long term memory.

JL

Yer just being pissy because you didn't get the optics you wanted to beat the GOP over the head with..

Waaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaa :D hehehe

Do they really expect that the public can't see through this ploy?

Will they then allow Ford's lawyer to question Kavanaugh? I doubt it.

Chickenshits.

Trump is apparently oblivious to the desperation that has caused millions refugees to flee conflict, slavery, oppression and genocide in the first place.

Trump's mental deficiency is a perfect match for Putin's cynicism - he being perfectly comfortable with bombing the shit out of Syria while simultaneously supporting anti-immigrant right wing regimes in Eastern Europe.

Which I predict she won't.. She's going to bail and Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed...

GOP hires female attorney to question Kavanaugh accuser
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/25/white-house-lashes-out-feinstein-838942

Too bad, sooo sad, you don't get the optics you wanted.. :D

There was never an FBI investigation which is what you are demanding for the DEM operative..

But if it's a GOP'er accusing a Democrat??

Oh we don't need an FBI Investigation....

Thank you for proving my point..

Whataboutism won't get the GOP out of the swamp mud they've gotten themselves into with Kavanaugh.

It's not designed to..

It's simply here to prove the hypocrisy and the fact that ya'all's motivations are strictly and utterly Party agenda...

Yea??? And Democrats are???

Either take the time to investigate,

Dumbocrats had THREE MONTHS to investigate...

If investigation was so all fired important, why didn't the do it then!??

Because investigation is NOT that important..

Obfuscation and delay is the priority here..

You won't get your investigation, Balthy.. The so-called "victim" is going to bail and Avantti's "new witness" is going to spew a yarn that makes the Pizza/Porno story look downright reasonable by comparison... :D

You'll just have to accept that reality, just as you were forced to accept the reality of President Donald J Trump.. :D

Don't worry.. I'll be here to help ya thru it.. :D

There were several investigations of that claim, all of which came up with bupkis.

Whataboutism won't get the GOP out of the swamp mud they've gotten themselves into with Kavanaugh.

As opposed to simply calling all of the friends and associates of Kavanaugh who have stepped forward to talk about his heavy drinking escapades liars?

Republicans aren't doing themselves any favors by relying on character assassination while more and more Yale alumni step forward to testify against him.

Either take the time to investigate, or continue to be buried under a pile of uncomplimentary news stories. That's their choice.

And has NO FACTS to support the claim..

Fact 2: Kavanaugh says it didn't.

And has TONS OF FACTS to support the claim..

Conclusions drawn from fact: None

POLITICAL Conclusions drawn from fact: None

There, fixed it for you. :D

It's really simple.. If it was a GOP operative accuser and a DEM nominee and POTUS..

You would be saying the EXACT same thing I am.. The only difference is that we would agree.. :D

Do you support an FBI investigation Juanita Brodderick's accusation of rape against President Clinton???

So you're saying the world is laughing at US? Literally!?

?In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country ... So true,” the president said, eliciting several muffled laughs.

“Didn’t expect that reaction but that’s OK,” Trump responded..

Cosby's accuser(s) took years to come forward long after the fact, why is this any different?

Also... we do have facts in the Kavanaugh scenario, Fact 1: Ford claims this happened. Fact 2: Kavanaugh says it didn't.

Conclusions drawn from fact: None

Remedy: Investigation to establish the veracity of either fact 1 or 2.

See, logic always wins.

LL&P

Ahhhhh So, yer up for the FBI to investigate a "mean drunk" accusation...

As long as the alleged mean drunk is a Republican. :^/

Tell me, do you advocate removing the statute of limitations on all rape and attempted rape accusations???

Wanna bet??? :D

Once the so-called "victim" bails on the hearing, Senator Murko... Murkkwo... Senator Lisa and Senantor Collins will join the rest of the GOP and vote for Kavanaugh...

20,000 quatloos says it's so... :D

That's what investigations are for. Until then, it's witness testimony.

Republicants are learning: refusing to hear from witnesses is not the same as making the witnesses disappear from view.

Justice Anthony Kennedy, the "HERO" of the Left Wingery, was a "mob lawyer"???

SERIOUSLY!!?????

So, now it's a MOB thing???? That the Mob controlled Justice Kennedy and now is in control of the SCOTUS!!????

Well, I am sure glad this didn't de-volve into wild conspiracy theories!! THAT would have been bad... :^/

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) suggested on Tuesday she would support an FBI investigation into the sexual assault allegations that have surfaced against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

GOP Sen. Susan Collins (Maine), a critical swing vote in the Supreme Court fight, said on Monday that she believed a woman accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct should speak with Senate staff under oath.

Getting tougher to keep these Republican wimmen in line. And I'm guessing that Republicants can kiss those four potential Democratic votes sayonara too, at this point. Flake and Corker will likely peel off by the end of the week.
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Any facts to support this guy's claim??

ANY FACTS at all??

Nope... Not a single solitary fact...

I too was curious about Kennedy's departure, considering there's older Justice's. I dug up the same info you just cited, though I'm no fan of connecting dots where the mafia are concerned. I dealt and worked for them (unbeknownst to me at the time) in Toronto in the late eighties, I never ascribed intelligence or long-term interest, with that clique. Perhaps, back in the Tammany times or Hoffa era, these kinds of backroom understandings took place, where greasing palms and owning judges was an understood norm...but in today's world, I need the dots to link on their own.

Glad someone else takes the time to have a tangential interest in the goings-on.

LL&P

Duh.. It's not my job to substantiate your claims..

You made the claim.. Now back it up...

That was HER standard, you bet'cha.

Yes.. That's yer claim.. Just like Paula's, it's unsubstantiated bullshit... :D

Thank you..

I accept your concession that claims against Kavanaugh over this fact-less accusation is as ridiculous as the claims against Odumbo his not being an American...

I am glad we can share that common ground.. :D

Michale, you know in your core that repetitive denials don't make you guiltless, in the same way multiple accusations don't make you guilty..

Really???

And yet, in this VERY commentary, CW says, or at the very least IMPLIES that multiple accusations MAKE KAVANAUGH guilty...

And no one disagreed with that so.. SILENCE GIVES ASSENT... :D

the deciding factor has to be an investigation into specific allegations.

And even BEFORE the investigation, there have to be SOME FACTS to support the accusation...

Here, there are none...

Kavanaugh can wait a week to clear things up, surely?

If the time factor was so critical to the co-called "victim", why wait 3 months??? Democrats had THREE MONTHS, which last time I checked was considerably longer than 1 week, to launch an investigation...

Surely if such an investigation was SOOOOOO necessary, it could have been launched back then, eh??

“I cannot imagine her making this up,” he told ABC-7 News in California. “Based on my time with Brett, I believe that he and his social circle were capable of the actions that Debbie described.”

That's what we need on the Supreme Court: a mean drunk.

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OHMIGODS!!!! KAVANAUGH REFERRED TO SOMEONE DEROGATORILY 35 YEARS AGO!!! HE CAN'T BE A JUSTICE!!!!

OHMIGODS!!!! OBAMAS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS NOT REAL FROM 57 YEARS AGO!!! HE CAN'T BE PRESIDENT!!!!

There...I fixed it for you.

But he didn't. Wonder why.

Let's look at a little background. Arthur Samish was a mob boss at the top of the mob hierarchy and like all big-time mob bosses, he had his own attorney, one whose entire law firm revolved around him. Samish's attorney was Justice Anthony Kennedy's father.

Eventually the FBI took Samish down on tax evasion and a few years later, Samish croaked as did his faithful consigliere, Kennedy. And all those Samish attorney-client privileged files, all those business relationships - the other mobsters, the corporations of the mob and all the individuals compromised by the mob - fell into the hands of... Kennedy's son, Anthony.

Yep. This was the law practice that young Tony Kennedy took over. He was a mob lawyer.

Everyone knows that one of the mob's foremost objectives is to get their own people in charge of the courts, particularly SCOTUS. Mob M.O. is to choose their targets early, bind them to the mob and groom them for the role.

This is where Gorsuch and Kavanaugh come into the picture - both clerked for mob lawyer, Anthony Kennedy.

The first of them had his SCOTUS position saved for him by Mitch McConnell who was following orders by keeping the vacancy open until republicans took over congress and the executive.

Now the second of them has been nominated for SCOTUS (when his former mob boss stepped aside for him). It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots and realize that both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh have been groomed for SCOTUS.

So who paid off Kavanaugh's $200,000 debt right before his nomination? Yeah, that had to be the mob so that their boy looked clean on paper.

Who spent an unprecedented $52 million (so far) to get Gorsuch and Kavanaugh confirmed? Again, that would be the mob. They'll spend whatever seems necessary to get what they want.

Who hired PR firm CRC to support Kavanaugh and provide him with excuses and props (like a blank calendar - and you can buy those on eBay by the way) in case his past came back to confront him? Again, that would be the mob - they were hoping to get confirmation jammed through before any nasty history surfaced.

So who is preventing Kavanaugh from withdrawing or being withdrawn? Yep, the mob. They wanted him seated by October 1st, the beginning of the next SCOTUS session. So like it or not, Kavanaugh is having to stick it out, to do exactly what he is told.

Fortunately for the sake of democracy and justice, he's not likely to be confirmed now (looks like there'll be four accusers come forward by the end of this week) and he'll probably lose his current judgeship - at least two criminal complaints have already been filed against him.

All in all, Kavanaugh's fall will be a loss for the mob and a massive win for America.

Facts that support she is no longer a Kavanaugh supporter?

Duh. Read the news. I assume that you have a computer in front of you. This is hardly a secret.

As to derogatorily referred to?? Is THAT the standard for Democrats when considering a Republican nominee??

That was HER standard, you bet'cha.

Last time I checked, that's called due process. You have to see why this rush to confirm isn't sitting well with a lot of people... the right thing to do is to at least look into the allegation. It's no longer about if he was or wasn't a pervy little shirt-lifter while in school, he's made it about TELLING THE TRUTH, even if it takes a week, wouldn't you prefer to know if a member of SCOTUS was credible or not...……..Regardless of political bent? you champion rules applied evenly, prove you have the courage of that conviction, or forever be dismissed. It's literally that simple. Kavanaugh can wait a week to clear things up, surely? So what if he misses the Oct 1 calendar deadline of SCOTUS, he'll still be confirmed?

LL&P

"I welcome the debate on domestic surveillance"
-Barack Obama

WEIGANTIA'S 2013 WORST LIE OF THE YEAR

The issue is whether he is or was an alcoholic/sexaholic. Has that impeded his judgment in the past, causing him to take actions that might make him vulnerable to being blackmailed/bought off while on the the bench?

If he is proven to be a liar when the next 2 accusers come out how should this affect his present position on the bench with the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. Can he be blackmailed/bought off there?

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."

Guess who said these lovely words in a democratic state?

Hint: Wenn Sie eine Lüge erzählen, die groß genug ist und es häufig genug erzählt, wird es geglaubt. ~ HWMNBN

Guess who said these lovely words in a democratic state?

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan."
-Barack Obama

" That, to me, is precisely why it should be a big deal — if someone is going to lie to you when there is nothing to gain by the lie, why would think they will be honest when they have something to lose by telling the truth?"

...and

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."

Guess who said these lovely words in a democratic state?

LL&P

It's too late for him to try the "yes I did some bad things but I learned from them..." defense.

Much too late now since they've portrayed him as pure as a driven snowflake and a virgin. Too bad the Brett Kavanaugh from his yearbook bragged about "FFFFFFF" and drinking... in his own words.

The guy is a liar - almost as compulsive as Blotus. He lies about things that can be checked, like the legal drinking age in Maryland at the time.

I know, right?! Take this "FFFFFFF" reference from his yearbook and ask him about it under oath. He would likely claim that his yearbook entry was referring to stuttering at an Independence Day party and point his questioner to his calendar where he wrote about it. He's going to lie regardless the question, and the GOP doesn't care.

I think his FOX move was a mistake.

It's what the White House wanted... which brings us back to Russ's great point about him being owned by the GOP and not an impartial jurist. So there's that.

Yea??

Facts that support she was a Kavanaugh supporter??

Facts that support she is no longer a Kavanaugh supporter??

As to derogatorily referred to??

Is THAT the standard for Democrats when considering a Republican nominee??

OHMIGODS!!!! KAVANAUGH REFERRED TO SOMEONE DEROGATORILY 35 YEARS AGO!!! HE CAN'T BE A JUSTICE!!!!

BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

:D

Once again, I wish ya'all could take a step back from yerselves and see how utterly ridiculous ya'all sound.. :D

Society is more akin to 'whiskey priest' No?
;)

LL&P

Yea, that's the second time you have made that bullshit claim..

I can name one off the top of my head:

Renate Schroeder Dolphin, who discovered just the other day that she was derogatorily referenced in Brett Kavanaugh's yearbook ("Renate Alumnus"), much to her surprise and embarrassment.

Is this the best we can do?

-----> *shakes head* <-----

Yea, that's the second time you have made that bullshit claim..

And it is STILL as much bullshit now as it was back then...

Consumer confidence hits 138.4 in September, vs. 132 estimate

"These historically high confidence levels should continue to support healthy consumer spending, and should be welcome news for retailers as they begin gearing up for the holiday season," says Lynn Franco, director of economic indicators at the Conference Board.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/25/consumer-confidence-september.html

Making America GREAT Again....

It's too late for him to try the "yes I did some bad things but I learned from them..." defense.

The guy is a liar - almost as compulsive as Blotus. He lies about things that can be checked, like the legal drinking age in Maryland at the time.

He claims he had nothing to do with various unsavory activities but can't deny he hung out with others who were very involved in same. Defenders are removing their names from lists of support.

I think his FOX move was a mistake.

And despite SIX FBI Investigations and Dumbocrat operatives fanning out across America in search of dirt on Kavanaugh, not a SINGLE credible accusation of impropriety has been leveled against Kavanaugh..

Unless you consider a 35 year old **FACT LESS** allegation to be credible??

You do, but ONLY if it's leveled against a Republican... :^/

To be clear here: I don't believe drinking illegally in Maryland as an underage teen should be a disqualification to become a justice on the SCOTUS, but why lie/obfuscate about it now under the circumstances wherein your credibility regarding "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" is being questioned? Or is Kavanaugh simply "confused" and "mixed up"? Perhaps he forgot about that... among other things.

Spot on! I take issue with people who dismiss his lying about “the little things” the same way I did when Paul Ryan got caught lying when he claimed to have run and finished a marathon in what would have been record time! Countless articles I read at the time said that it wasn’t that big of a deal because he wasn’t lying “about anything of real importance”. That, to me, is precisely why it should be a big deal — if someone is going to lie to you when there is nothing to gain by the lie, why would think they will be honest when they have something to lose by telling the truth?

The issue here is Kavanaugh's credibility now.

Bingo! The issue is we have an entire party that no longer believes that honesty is important. Truth matters!

The primary issue isn't if he drank underage. The issue is whether he is or was an alcoholic/sexaholic. Has that impeded his judgment in the past, causing him to take actions that might make him vulnerable to being blackmailed/bought off while on the the bench?

Think of the hearings as allowing the public to be on the priest side of the confession booth. Truth and the Possibility of Reconciliation with him being on The High Court. Is this the best we can do? If it is, it's time to fold up the Constitutional tent and go our separate ways.

And despite Republicant operatives fanning out across America in search of dirt on Obama (as there naturally would be), not a single credible accusation of impropriety was ever leveled against him.

And actually, the same could be said for most of our current sitting Senators and Reps, most of whom never had the kind of hush money reserves (and friends at the National Enquirer) that The Donald had at his disposal.

The problem for Kavanaugh is that he will ultimately be judged by politicians who have successfully dodged the oppo research bullet, and are unlikely to feel sorry to someone who can't.

They also know that, far from being 'ruined' by having his name yanked from consideration, Kavanaugh will still have his lifetime appointment to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals to fall back on - a 'golden parachute' that they could only dream about.

And yes, there were parties. And the drinking age was 18, and yes, the seniors were legal and had beer there. ~ Brett Kavanaugh

That's some neat word parsing there. Kavanaugh seems to be saying he drank legally as a senior... or is he saying he drank illegally while the seniors drank legally?

Fun Fact: The drinking age wasn't 18 in Maryland when Kavanaugh was a senior. On Thursday, July 1, 1982, the drinking age in Maryland was raised from 18 to 21. Ergo, Brett Kavanaugh couldn't legally drink in Maryland until 2-1/2 years after he graduated from high school there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1982/01/29/md-unit-votes-drinking-age-increase-to-21/7e0e1a40-6319-4117-a869-1dd500abd4b8/?utm_term=.65c4dff7ce44

To be clear here: I don't believe drinking illegally in Maryland as an underage teen should be a disqualification to become a justice on the SCOTUS, but why lie/obfuscate about it now under the circumstances wherein your credibility regarding "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" is being questioned? Or is Kavanaugh simply "confused" and "mixed up"? Perhaps he forgot about that... among other things.

Kavanaugh could legally drink in Maryland 2-1/2 years after he graduated high school there and could legally drink at Yale when he turned 21 in 1986.

The issue here is Kavanaugh's credibility now.

OK I see the point of confusion.. Thanx for clearing that up...

I'm lock-step with you on that one, if this person comes out with that shit, then it'll fall on my deaf ears.

Good ta know.. :D

Hopefully others feel the same.. :D

It would be "un-murican" to penalize the Republican one doesn't like based on nothing but rumor and innuendo with no facts..

Again, a simple analogy by way of explanation..

Would it be un-murican to force Obama to drop out of his re-election race simply because someone made an accusation?? An accusation that had absolutely NO FACTS to support it??

Even though I voted Obama in 2008, I would have voted for anyone else in 2012... But even I would not have suggested that Obama be forced out of the 2012 election simply because someone made an accusation..

LL&P

One of these guys is lying, would it be un-murican to find out which? In any event, it's stretches credulity that Judge is believed in one denial, but wafted away in another.

[You might wonder what skin I have in the game... simple, a reversal of Roe v Wade would see an influx of women pouring into my country looking to exercise their basic human right to have an abortion. And before it's asked or implied, I'm not a fan of abortion, never have been, my dislike of it isn't tethered to some obnoxious, arcane, faith driven drivel... that's the weakest argument. My belief is, abortion shouldn't be a form of birth control (or annulment, for the godheads). It's a fine line, I know... At the end of the day, the state can't be allowed to dictate to women how they go about their reproductive imperative. As with most things in life, the devil is in the details, the 'small print' is where the discussion should be addressed.]

just wanted to clarify

LL&P

I am simply going by the rule established by the Left during Chancellorsville...

"Silence Gives Assent"

when many republicans still believe Obama an Clinton were running a child porn/slavery ring out of a pizza parlour.

I know that many Democrats believe that many Republicans believe that..

Just as there are many Republicans who believe that many Democrats believe Bush had a hand in 9/11...

There are many crazies on the Right & Left...

I am sure you would agree with me that those crazies do not represent the Party... No??

Avenatti has his own agenda, which seems to include political adventurism, ergo, I'm disinclined to take him at face value.

As am I...

That being said, I wouldn't dismiss him out of hand when he claims to have a client who is above reproach, a former vetted government employee who has her own salacious Kavanaugh account to share.

I would have to disagree with you here...

I cannot see how it's possible that an employee would be "above reproach" yet still claim to have proof of the completely unbelievable story of satanic cults and gang rapes in a DC torture chamber...

The two positions seem to be diametrically opposed.

To put it into a different context by way of explanation, it would be as if you had a former employee of Clinton who is "above reproach" yet claims to have proof that the pizza/child porn story is factually accurate...

The latter would seem to disqualify the former..

I have no doubt, if all this comes to pass, that his client's accusations are for an audience of three or four GOP senators first, et al, second.

I have no doubt that, if the claims are as ludicrous as Avanetti claims they are, said 3 or 4 Senators cannot throw Avanetti et al out of their office fast enough..

Avenatti has his own agenda, which seems to include political adventurism, ergo, I'm disinclined to take him at face value. That being said, I wouldn't dismiss him out of hand when he claims to have a client who is above reproach, a former vetted government employee who has her own salacious Kavanaugh account to share. I have no doubt, if all this comes to pass, that his client's accusations are for an audience of three or four GOP senators first, et al, second.

LL&P

Barack Obama
25 Sep 2011
Approval Rating 43.3%

President Donald Trump
25 Sep 2018
Approval Rating 44.0%

Oh, JL??

Your claim that Obama left off with an approval rating of 57%????

It took Obama 8 years to do that..

Who knows how high President Trump's rating will be in 6 years?? No one..

But, considering how wrong ya'all have been about President Trump to date....

It's a safe bet it's going to be a LOT higher than ya'all think it will be... :D

I'm just sayin... :D

Using the court system to stymie a president has backfired before.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/24/democrats-weaponize-judiciary-220530

A long, but very interesting read...

It NEVER looked good to you..

So, you hated Kavanaugh yesterday, you hate Kavanaugh today...

In other shocking news, water is wet and the sky is blue.. :^/

Democrats worry that Trump and his allies are teeing up a series of document releases meant to gin up GOP voters before the midterms.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/20/russia-midterms-trump-declassified-docs-830631

Squirm, Democrats.. SQUIRM.... :D

THIS is the kind of man we need on the High Court...

I am back up to 100% certain that Kavanaugh will be confirmed...

Judge appears likely to toss Stormy Daniels' defamation suit
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-lawyers-seek-toss-stormy-daniels-lawsuit-181622779.html

Media whore Avantii is looking for a new cash cow, since Stormy is all used up..

'Rode hard and put away wet' is the accepted terminology.... :^/

Ya'all believe that Kavanaugh was part of (leader??) a satanic cult that operated a Washington DC torture chamber where they regularly gang-raped women....

This is what ya'all believe...

And yet, throughout his **ENTIRE** career, spanning decades, NOT a single whiff of a scintilla of an iota of ANY OF THIS became known.. It was kept secret from SIX DIFFERENT FBI INVESTIGATIONS!!

THAT is ya'all's claim???

"Is it me or did IQs just drop suddenly while I was away??"
-Sigourney Weaver, ALIENS

I mean, seriously people... You people SERIOUSLY buy into this total tabloid garbage???

#sad

Today he pitched major new details coming, and quickly scored interviews on CNN and MSNBC.
https://news.grabien.com/story-avenatti-plays-msnbc-cnn-promises-new-kavanaugh-dirt-brings

BBBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OHMIGODS!!! You guys are buying into that!!!????

Torture chambers!!!??

Satanic rites!!!???

GANG RAPE GANGS!!!???

OhMyGods, ys'sll will believe ANYTHING!!!! As long as it's against a GOP'er.....

This is just SAD...

I guess I should be grateful for the scum-sucking lawyer..

"I brought you people here to defend me against him and the only one on my side is the scum-sucking lawyer!!"
-John Hammond, JURASSIC PARK

:D

Like I said, I guess I should be grateful for the scumbag that is Avantii...

He has totally demolished **ANY** scintilla of credibility any of the accusers might have had...

I mean, if Democrats believe that Kavanaugh was in a satanic cult that gang raped women in a DC torture chamber???

They prove they are too gullible to be taken seriously about anything..

It's interesting.. It's not only in Weigantia is this in play...

That presupposes that your scenarios are accurate...

Here's a scenario for you..

A genuine honest and decent man. A man of integrity with a wife and children who has NEVER even HINTED of any impropriety...

Such a man denies such a heinous accusation forthwith because it simply is not in his nature..

The difference between your scenarios and mine is that my scenario has TONS and TONS of facts to back it up..

Yours??

Not a single solitary fact to back up yours...

"These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

I think we should focus more on why Kavanaugh has been spending the last few days at the White House prepping for his testimony before the hearings? Why is the White House taking such an active role in his defense? If he telling the truth, what is he needing help with as far as how he answers the questions he will be asked?

I know, right!? Great point, Russ. Add to this that the supposed "impartial" judge has now appeared on Fox News Entertainment TV to proclaim his innocence and... not kidding here --> defend himself by claiming he was a virgin in high school and "many years thereafter." It doesn't appear that the GOP and "impartial" judge stopped to think this one through, but what does it say about the GOP and a SCOTUS nominee who would favor a partisan Fox News interview over an FBI investigation? If you were innocent of the charges being levelled against you, why would you choose answering softball questions from Fox News propaganda versus an investigation by the FBI? Seriously.

If confirmed by the Senate, how could Kavanaugh not be expected to recuse himself from any case related to this presidency?

Exactly right. Setting aside everything else, Kavanaugh's multiple days of coaching by the White House and the appearance of a nominee for the SCOTUS on Fox News -- American Pravda -- isn't exactly the look of "impartiality," now is it?

Mitch McConnell too says they'll "plow through" and also goes onto the floor of the Senate to blame Democrats for a "smear campaign" against the poor victim... not Blasey Ford -- Kavanaugh... and I'm sure that whenever Mitch and his GOP buddies figure out how to successfully blame the Democrats for the yearbook entry written by Brett Kavanaugh about himself, they'll be able to ramrod the "poor victim" onto the SCOTUS.

… Keg City Club (Treasurer) -- 100 Kegs or Bust; Anne Daugherty's -- I Survived the FFFFFFFourth of July; Renate Alumnius; Malibu Fan Club; Ow, Neatness 2, 3; Devil's Triangle...

Just an excerpt written by Kavanaugh about himself, and I'll not be posting the meaning of the 7 F's Kavanaugh has chosen to memorialize in his yearbook or the "Devil's Triangle"... leave the sleaze to somebody else or look it up.

Sure, they'll argue, he was a dumb high school jock, so what? I'm just saying his own account at the time in question helps paint a picture of a very different person than the poor victim of a smear campaign that they're portraying now and there's more than enough there in his own chosen words to make him an unreliable witness decades later... or perhaps he's just "mixed up" and "confused" now.

God? Lonely. But funny. He's got a great sense of humor. Take sex for example. There's nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus.

The way I understand it, it's mostly a joke down here, too.

If I recall correctly, that movie (and hence that line) came out in the Clinton years.. :D

All of which assumes that Kavanaugh was even AT this "party"..

Are there **ANY** facts to support that assumption??

ANY FACTS AT ALL???

Nope.. None...

That's a given..

His client wanted to get PAID to screw Kavanaugh before she had to do it for free in a hearing.. There's a word for women like that..

The learned author, Ernest Hemingway was at a dinner party being hounded by an incessant fan. Finally, Mr Hemingway turned to the lady and said, "Madam, would you have sex with me for a million dollars??".. The woman, all a flutter said, "Why yes!! Yes Mr Hemingway!!! Yes I would!!!"....

Mr Hemingway enjoyed the rest of the dinner party in peace.

So, it's obvious where ambulance chaser Avantii and his client are coming from..

We can also recall the "dramatic" CD in a safe photo that Avantii pushed.. Nothing ever came of that..

The guy is just a scum-sucking lawyer and it's indicative of how far Democrats have sunk, that they are putting their faith in such a scumbag...

But the idea that the country should convict him and destroy his life with no evidence other than recovered and uncorroborated memories and creepy porn lawyer Michael Avenatti’s say-so is quite insane.
http://thefederalist.com/2018/09/24/the-smear-campaign-against-brett-kavanaugh-is-truly-evil/

The Democrat Party

Purveyors of insanity... :^/

Where are the cries from the Left to "believe" Karen Monahan??

"Oh, well.. Believing THAT woman is politically inconvenient and does not support our Party agenda, so THAT woman can just go to hell.."
-Democrats

:^/

So, the Democrats' Mantra is

Believe ALL women but **ONLY** when they accuse a GOP'er and/or their accusations support our Party Agenda...

#sad