What is going to hurt the Republicans more in the mid terms:

I'm going with #4 but they are really trying to make #2 as bad for themselves as possible.
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These are all excellent points, but I'm going with:

5. AOTA :)

Excellent assessment...

Sorry, son.. The FBI already investigated back in July.. And duly and properly round-filed this crock of shit...

Your Dumbocrat ploy is crashing and burning..

You lost...

Yep... Time to play hardball against this Dumbocrat bullshit...

Dr. Ford noticed that Ed Whelan was checking her LinkedIn profile a few hours before her name was made public.

On Sunday, Ford noticed that — even before her name became public — Whelan appeared to be seeking information about her.

A White House spokesman said Friday that neither Kavanaugh nor anyone in the White House gave Ford’s name to Whelan before it was disclosed by The Post. Whelan did not respond to a request for comment on how he first learned of Ford’s identity.

Applies to TOTAS and Kav.

Funny how the Dumbocrat Party has become the GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT Party...

Dumbocrats don't DESERVE to govern....

Pure unadulterated Party slavery..

The entire Kavanaugh Democrat debacle is about pushing an agenda, about Garland Payback, about derailing a good man's nomination, a man who even LIBERALS rave about...

It has NOTHING to do with truth or justice or facts..

Just a Party agenda. That's it..

And it WILL fail and it WILL cost Dumbocrats in November...

Independents may not be warm for President Trump but they hate this Dumbocrat kind of bullshit more...

This is fact...

"La-a-a-a-a-di-da"
-Maren Morris

:D

We don't need luck..

We have FIVE Democrats ready to say YES to Kavanaugh... :D

yea... Just like "people are saying" that Republicans are looking for a way to dump Kavanaugh.. :D

Once again.. LONG on hysterical bullshit..

Absolutely NO FACTS WHATSOEVER to support.. :D

If she can't make it Weds, that shows how much she wants her hearing..

This is all about delay... That's it

Repubs are doing everything they can to discourage Dr. Ford from appearing.

And, once again, you spew bullshit without ANY facts..

GOP'ers have bent over backwards to accomadate the so-called "victim". But every time the GOP agreed, this liar moved the goal posts..

Personally, I was for not giving an inch. The matter has ALREADY been postponed to accomadate the liar and they should hold fast to the Monday deadline..

However, if it takes moving it a couple days to PROVE what the liar's agenda is?? I guess I can get on board with that..

Once again.. Paula.. Long on hysterical bullshit and actually NO FACTS to speak of.. :D

Where Republicans have a two vote margin. Good Luck!

I'd tell these people: "No way, he is going down in 2020 and to prison in 2021."

WOW.. A Dumbocrat referred a matter for investigation..

EARTH SHATTERING!!!!

MY GODS, THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!!! :D

Face reality my friend.. Kavanaugh will make it out of committee by next week, fully approved and ready to face the full Senate..

GOPers are united behind Kavanaugh and this pathetic Garland Payback maneuver has placed red state Democrats in even MORE danger..

I'll be laughing all next week and the bonehead stunt Dumbocrats pulled.... :D

Blanket denials imply multiple infractions.

It's all academic, the Democrats are just sending the message that they won't forget the Garland treachery.
Both sides live in the loopholes and cracks.
"Past is prologue"
Trump will be cauterized in November and Trump will single-handedly decimate the GOP. By 2020, the old guard of the GOP will be put out to pasture, Trump will be begging Biden for pardons and the real work of government can get back to repairing the damage.

You heard it here first.

LL&P

1. The clown in the White House, or

2. The war on women, or

3. Trying or actually firing Mueller, or

4. Attacking Obamacare, Medicare and Medicaid?

I'm going with #4 but they are really trying to make #2 as bad for themselves as possible.

The answer is probably found in the thousands of pages of documents that were withheld from the committee by the the White House, now sought by Democrats.

Yep. Among the many reasons this nomination process is tainted is the fact that Repubs have suppressed the majority of documents relating to Kavanaugh's professional history. When Elena Kagan was nominated virtually everything she'd ever written was demanded by Repubs, and provided.

Repubs put an arbitrary timeline on the process and suppressed materials and are now complaining about Christine Blasey Ford's timing, thus adding yet another layer of hypocrisy to the mountain they'd already built.

An assertion that the emails appear to contradict. Senator Patrick Leahy has referred the matter to the DOJ for investigation.

The answer is probably found in the thousands of pages of documents that were withheld from the committee by the the White House, now sought by Democrats.

If you are an American before you are a Republican, and you work in the White House and are disgusted by what you see, what better than to gin up some lies about Rosenstein, put Mueller's possible firing into play, and then sit back and wait for Fox News to get suckered in and get the clown all riled up.

Just about any way you look at this, it is a disaster for TOTUS.

Republicans doing everything they can to cover for him debases everything about this process. If they succeed in shoe-horning him onto SCOTUS they will taint the court as well as themselves.

They had other nominees to choose from who would have been reliable "conservative" judges. They would have been bad, but not bad like this.

The first question every single Senator should ask his nominated replacement is "Are you going to fire Mueller?"

Nice lead up to the election.

Last week, Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein accused Judge Brett Kavanaugh of repeatedly misleading the Senate Judiciary Committee during his confirmation hearings. “Brett Kavanaugh used materials stolen from Democratic senators to advance President Bush’s judicial nominees,” the committee’s ranking member tweeted. “He was asked about this in 2004, 2006 and this week. His answers were not true.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-lies-senate-testimony-supreme-court.html

You mean the one that keeps catching witches.

Do you honestly think that firing Rosenstein or Mueller will cause all of the prosecutors, investigators, State's Attorney Generals, US District Attorney's and others to simply abandon their work and go away? Will Manafort's depositions disappear?

Don't set yourself up for disappointment...

She's referring to the fact that Kavanaugh stated under oath that he had no part in framing Bush's torture policy. Emails released later have proved that to be a lie.

We've been through this before, we all need to stop confusing Michale with reality. It is a form of torture to him as it puts his head into a spin cycle where the possibility that he has been conned for three years messes up his carefully collected set of fantasies.

Factually not accurate..

Kavanaugh was asked if he had any primary part in framing Bush's torture policy..

Kavanaugh answered factually that he had no primary part in framing Bush's torture policy...

Once again.. FACTS.... vs ya'all's political hatred...

But let's hope this takes a few excruciating weeks and is the main point of discussion up to the election.

Rosenstein is already claiming that this is a hit job inside the WH against him, let's hope he is right and the WH spends the next couple of months twisting in the wind over this.

Also, once Rosenstein is out, he is a potential witness for Mueller or the replacement to Mueller you just know is coming.

Remember, TOTUS nominated Rosenstein to his current role in Feb 2017 and he was confirmed in Apr 2017.

This is a clear demonstration that TOTUS has no control over his policy, his staff, and, very likely, getting his mushroom polished by his wife.

Dozens of women stand in support of Judge Kavanaugh..

So much for the bullshit claim that women are abandoning him...

Where is the support for this so-called "victim"'s story???

NO FACTS whatsoever.....

She's referring to the fact that Kavanaugh stated under oath that he had no part in framing Bush's torture policy. Emails released later have proved that to be a lie.

The Thomas hearings had been completed when Nina Totenberg leaked news that Anita Hill's allegations had been raised and reported in a preliminary FBI report. The hearings were re-opened to address the allegations, and the FBI then did a follow-up investigation.

The fact set here is nearly the same, save that Feinstein rather than NPR leaked the accusation. Democrats are only asking for the same follow-up investigation that was done for Hill.

But, yes, the extra time that it would take to do such an investigation would be..inconvenient.. for Republicans. In 1991, the follow-up investigation took three whole days. Sucks, eh?

YOU brought up Wisenstein and Cosby as if it has some relevance here..

Weinstein and Cosby are relevant, like it or not. Most of the accusations against both of them relate to sexual assault, not rape.

Kavanaugh is accused of sexual assault, with the belief of the victim that she escaped an attempted rape.

And the accusation is certainly more serious than those that were leveled at Franken, who was drummed out of the Senate.

He is sooo fired...

There goes the Mueller Witch Hunt as well.. :D

Facts that Kavanaugh is lying??

NONE whatsoever...

1. There are *NO FACTS* to support this so-called "victim"'s claim..

2. There are TONS of facts to support Kavanaugh's innocence...

Yep.. That's what needs to be done..

Show the Dumbocrats that they are not going to get away with their Garland Revenge pathetic bullshit...

Dumbocrats rolled the dice and they failed...

Listen to LeaningBlue...

Next to me, he is the most level-heading one here on this issue.. Interested in FACTS and nothing else...

Lack of investigation is NOT an issue..

For those who know the FACTS and don't have a political agenda..

DiFi reported the issue to the FBI in July. The FBI investigated and determined it's a nothing burger and simply added it to Kavanaugh's packet...

By comparison, the FBI did an investigation prior to the Anita Hill - Clarence Thomas hearings

THAT's because the issue came to light MONTHS before the hearings..

If the Democrats wanted a full force investigation, why did they wait MONTHS and spring it on the committee AFTER the hearings were over???

Grassley and his fellow Republicants must fear that an investigation might result in even more dirt on their already-flawed nominee. No FBI, no siree...

No, Grassley and his fellow Republicans don't want to derail the confirmation over NOTHING but a lame addled-brained accusation that has NO SUPPORTING FACTS...

If the Dumbocrats wanted an investigation, they should have demanded one back in Jul...

NOT after the hearings were concluded..

So one-time rapists get a pass? I don't remember a 'one and out' clause in the law.

NO FACTS to support the claim that Kavanaugh is a one time rapist or ANY rapist for that matter.

YOU brought up Wisenstein and Cosby as if it has some relevance here..

I simply used FACTS to prove you wrong.. :D

So one-time rapists get a pass? I don't remember a 'one and out' clause in the law.

they don't merit investigation as there are no FACTS to support an investigation.

So which is it - did they investigate or not? I'm guessing no, otherwise the lack of investigation wouldn't be an issue.

By comparison, the FBI did an investigation prior to the Anita Hill - Clarence Thomas hearings with fewer 'facts' in evidence than there are here.

Grassley and his fellow Republicants must fear that an investigation might result in even more dirt on their already-flawed nominee. No FBI, no siree...

It's called FACTS and ya'all and this so-called "victim" have NONE...

Not a SINGLE iota of a fact to support this so-called "victim"'s claims..

One difference is that authorities usually do some sort of investigation.

Which the FBI did when DiFi reported it to them back in Jul..

Their conclusion?? Insufficient facts to warrant further investigation..

In this case, Kavanaugh's allies are for some reason reluctant to investigate these charges. Why is that?

Because it's clear these "charges" are nothing but partisan payback for Garland...

As such, they don't merit investigation as there are no FACTS to support an investigation..

Kavanaugh is simply learning something that Harvey Weinstien and Bill Cosby have learned before him - that there is no statute of limitations on attempted rape, and that victim testimony matters, even in a he said/she said scenario.

Wienstien and Cosby both showed a PATTERN...

Is there such a pattern with Kavanaugh?? No, there is not...

However, there ARE facts to support that Kavanaugh is not capable of these acts.. Over 200 witnesses who have KNOWN Kavanaugh for over 40 years...

And you have ONE muddle-brained drunk who says otherwise...

A distinct possibility..

That's your biased opinion based on Trump hatred...

A distinct possibility. Let's just say that it's a fair bet that Trump didn't discuss that move with his lawyers first (if they recommended it, he should fire them immediately).

It's called testimony, Mike, and it happens in every court in this country, daily. Victims accuse their attackers, often long after the crime occurred (for a variety of reasons). Prosecutors assess the victim's credibility - this one is a College professor - and sometimes prosecute, and sometimes get convictions based on that testimony.

One difference is that authorities usually do some sort of investigation. In this case, Kavanaugh's allies are for some reason reluctant to investigate these charges. Why is that?

Kavanaugh is simply learning something that Harvey Weinstien and Bill Cosby have learned before him - that there is no statute of limitations on attempted rape, and that victim testimony matters, even in a he said/she said scenario.

BBBWWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"It's HORRID and DESPICABLE that this Whelan asshole would post tweets accusing an INNOCENT MAN of rape!! Here's a copy of his tweets for ya'all to read!!!!"
-Paula

Do you comprehend thru all yer hatred what utter lunacy that is???

DOH!!!!

He is sooo fired...

He has screenshots of the Whelan tweets that have been deleted and does a nice breakdown of the debacle.

That's one possibility..

Another possibility is that President Trump did the responsible thing, listen to people who have relevance to the issue and made a wise decision..

When yer a Trump hater, everything looks like a Trump mistake...

:^/

There is no difference..

Ya'all accuse a man without ANY facts to support the accusation...

So?? The guy is likely a Republican and... GASP!!! A MAN!!!!

So, what do you care about what he is accused of??

You never cared about the innocence of GOP'ers before..

Why start now..

Once again, Trump is stopped from doing something incredibly stupid by the folks around him.

And he's so self-unaware that he felt compelled to tell the world about it.

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Is that a defensive post, or do you seriously not know the difference?

Facts that prove this??

No???

Of course not.. :^/

How is that any different than what ya'all are doing to Judge Kavanaugh???

The story was then spread through the rightwing media machine. Meanwhile people-with-brains on Twitter, and real-journalist begin responding to the unbelievable stupidity and cupidity of this move. FOX & Friends did a big segment on it. The tweets have been deleted (though lots of outlets have the screenshots) and Whelan has issued an abject apology.

It's now looking like Orrin Hatche's office may have helped cook this thing up and it's possible Kavanaugh himself knew about it.

I hope the man they fingered sues Whelan for defamation and, via discovery, finds out just who was involved.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/21/17886430/brett-kavanaugh-news-ed-whelan-trump

"Ed Whelan’s tweets have created a second Kavanaugh scandal.

Did Brett Kavanaugh know a friend of his was planning to smear a private citizen?"

Among other things, this kind of boneheaded stunt makes clear the Repubs have accepted an assault did take place, now they're trying to shift the blame.

THAT is what amounts to "logic" for the Dumbocrat Party...

Offeringh this so-called "victim" a forum to substantiate her accusations is "silencing" her.. :^/

Dumbocrat "logic"... :eyeroll:

Well, sure.. If you WANT to remain ignorant, that is of course, your choice...

But facts are facts and care not for the Party loyalist who chooses to remain clueless.. :D

Once the GOP retains control of the HOUSE and SENATE as I predict, you'll learn.. :D

You think I comment alot NOW!??? :D Wait until then.. :D

Dream on, my friend.

Past experience has taught me that cut/paste content from RWNJ web sites is a good idea to ignore ;)

:D

There's just so many facts ya'all continue to ignore..

I would be doing a grave disservice to ya'all and to CW if I didn't do my utmost to make ya'all aware of them..

:D

I know, right.

Michale:

If the scroll dial on my mouse breaks I'm sending you the bill ;)

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen..

American jurisprudence, Dumbocrat style..

"We already know he's guilty so let's just take him outside and hang 'im!!"

That's ya'all's Dumbocrat Party..

Aren't ya'all soooooo proud.. :^/

Put another way..

If you honestly believe that the Dumbocrats actually have a chance of taking the Senate...

Then you are as delusional as you were back when you thought Hillary Clinton actually had a chance of being POTUS... :D

Yea.. *THAT* will play well in Texas!! :D

Dumbocrats take the Senate..

And, considering the huge spanking Dumbocrats are getting after this sad and pathetic Garland Payback gambit, the chances of the Dumbos getting the Senate are even MORE remote...

:D

But hay.. Thanx for playing.. :D

Now let me ask you..

Why derail this nomination based on NOTHING but the spotty, ambiguous and outright deceitful claims of this so-called "victim"??

Let Judge Kavanaugh get to work...

Then Democrats can investigate to their hearts content and, if it turns out that I am wrong, that this IS something other than a huge NOTHING BURGER then, armed with actual FACTS, Democrats can push to impeach Judge Kavanaugh....

If "truth" and "justice" are TRULY the goals here, then THAT is the best process going forward...

But "truth" and "justice" are NOT the goals here and you and I both know it...

:D

No other women have come forward to say that the young Kavanaugh assaulted them. There is no pattern of bad behavior. Quite the contrary, by all accounts other than Ford’s, he treats women with respect in his personal and professional life. (Full disclosure: I worked with Kavanaugh in the George W. Bush White House.) The gathering included just Ford and four others, according to her confidential letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). One man named by Ford as a witness has come forward and not only denied knowledge of the assault but also denied knowledge of the gathering in question. Another, who said he was the “PJ” mentioned in the letter, Patrick J. Smyth, has also denied being at a gathering like the one Ford described.

Once again..

There are **NO FACTS** to support this so-called "victim"'s version of events..

There are TONS OF FACTS to support Judge Kavanaugh's complete and utter innocence of this accusation...

When Democrats have ANY facts to support this so-called "victim"'s claim, ANY facts to support a pattern of such behavior... THEN we can talk...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/09/20/sexy-handmaids-tale-halloween-costume-sparks-outrage/1375851002/

Jeezus, people!! Get a life!!!

:^/

A man was standing in a line with a friend at a liquor store in Moscow. After waiting for hours, the guy said to his friend, "Hold my place in line. I am going to go shoot Gorbachev."
The man left and came back an hour later to reclaim his place in line.
"Did you get him?" the friend asked?
"No", the man said. "The line there was even longer than the line here.." Baa daa da
-Declassified Soviet-Era Joke

:D

Because it will set a precedent that any old FACT-LESS accusation can be used to derail proper confirmation process..

As in my previous analogy..

"Give me $10 million dollars and I'll testify"

If one gives into that then it sets a very dark precedent that leads to a very slippery slope..

And argument I am confident that ya'all would be making if the Party roles were reversed in this situation.. :D

If Democrats *REALLY* wanted justice and truth, they would have started this process back in July when they were first made aware of this issue....

If Democrats *REALLY* wanted justice and truth, they would not have sprung this on the committee in the 11th hour AFTER the confirmation hearings had been completed...

Any claims of this being rushed is SOLELY and UNEQUIVOCALLY the fault of Democrats...

Which cannot be allowed to happen..

why not, exactly? it's a lifetime appointment, so it's not as if the clock's ticking and he's going anywhere.

Well, they CAN....

But everyone else knows what's what....

Easy answer, Mr. Graham. She never "refused to testify." Her lawyer said she would testify and has been negotiating the terms by which she would do so ever since she agreed. She... in fact... never once refused to testify.

"refusing" is not the point..

The so-called "victim" has claimed she never wanted to go public, never wanted to deal with any of this, never wanted to testify..

And yet, the *FACTS* clearly show that the so-called "victim" took steps to be well-prepared for doing exactly that..

She hired a lawyer a month before there was even an iota of a whiff of this and took a bogus lie-detector test in preparation of going public...

Her actions are ALL according to the plan hatched out back in July....

Has NOTHING to do with truth or justice..

As Blathy conceded, this is all a grand plan as payback for Garland...

Which is fine.. Turnabout is fair play... It's pathetically sad that Democrats have gone about it this way, but that's par for the course for Democrats..

But Democrats can't pretend this is all about truth and justice...

Amend that to read

It's just royally disappointing that ya'all would be so blatantly and unequivocally hypocritical due to Party loyalty...

My fingers mis-typed...

That SHOULD read Kapernutz going to the Patriots???

http://www.tmz.com/2018/09/20/mark-geragos-colin-kaepernick-patriots-raiders-nfl-nike/

It's a perfect fit.. Everyone already hates the Patriots.. :D

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Without resorting to GOOGLE.....

Identify Kavanaugh...

Of the 3 people that were "there", 2 people (Smyth & Judge) claim that they NEVER SAW Kavanaugh act in such a manner anywhere at any time..

NOTE TO SELF Follow up on why Smyth or Judge haven't been able to pinpoint the date and place of the get-together.. Maybe they have and the committee is holding the facts in reserve...

Anyways, my point is...

Why hasn't this un-named female come forward to support the so-called "victim"'s story??? It's reasonable to assume that the so-called "victim" knows who she is..

So, either the "victim" doesn't want to name her because the "victim" knows this un-named female won't support the story being told..

Which, again, goes to the credibility of the so-called "victim"...

Which ALSO plays into the wisdom of the so-called "victim" changing her story from there being 4 boys in the room to there only being 2 boys in the room...

4 boys saying none of it happened is a LOT more credible than only 2 boys saying none of it happened..

It's also funny to note that the so-called "victim" is hazy on EVERY detail...

EXCEPT about Kavanaugh....

She is SURE it's Kavanaugh..

Yea... No ulterior motive whatsoever... :^/

NOW you want the Democrats to do the exact same thing???

So, either ya'all were full of shit back then when ya'all were claiming that this goes against the Constitution???

Or ya'all are claiming NOW that Constitutional violations are perfectly acceptable to ya'all if they further YA'ALL'S agenda and YA'ALL'S agenda only.....

which is it???

https://twitter.com/EdWhelanEPPC/status/1042893987747713024

Yer thoughts???

So...

For all ya'all's hysterical screaming about how it was against the Constitution and the Constitution doesn't allow it and it's a gross violation of the Constitution...

NOW you want the Democrats to do the exact same thing???

Who could have predicted that the Democrats would be as low down and as Constitutionally illegal as they accuse the GOP of being???

Oh... wait....

Don't get me wrong.. I don't give a royal rat's ass if the Democrats actually do that.. As you say, turnabout is always fair play...

It's just royally disappointing that ya'all would be so blatantly and unequivocally hypocritical due to Party slavery...

Predictable..

But still very disappointing..

michale, if you insist that this is just partisan hardball, don't pretend it wasn't forshadowed in the testimony. Kamala Harris, after descibing a following line of questioning as perfunctory, "Me, Too" checking-off of a box, asked Kav a series of questions about disqualifying conduct towards girls and women over his lifetime, all of which he denied chapter and verse.

Oh, I have absolutely NO DOUBT in my mind that this was all pre-ordained..

That's why it's so despicably hypocritical for Democrats to try and take the moral high ground..

This whole sorry and pathetic exercise is about one thing and one thing only.. Delaying the Kavanaugh nomination..

Which cannot be allowed to happen..

It damned well better not be possible to even place him at any party she was at, even if -no, especially, he was drunk and cannot remember it. Not sayin', not hopin'. That's just a fact.

Which is exactly why this so-called "victim"'s recollection is so spotty..

I am sure she knows the exact place and date and time all of this allegedly took place..

But knowing that Kavanaugh wasn't even there, if she were to give a specific date and place, Kavanaugh would likely be able to PROVE that he wasn't there..

Hence the lying about her no remembering the time and place...

This is all contrived bullshit, planned and agreed upon long ago..

Seems to the casual observer, SCOTUS is rendered ineffective by partisan renderings. Why bother having them if they aren't so much, final arbiters of the constitution, so much as political ramrods for whom ever happens to appoint them.

Either bring a semblance of balance to the joint, or abolish it in favour of an elected body, chosen by the people over whose lives they preside. Too much power lies in the hands of a bunch of doorknobs answerable to no one.

LL&P