Seconded.

Thoughts on the confirmation:

The FBI-referred letter was a really stupid move, almost Trump-level cringe worthy.

But some Dem senators can still hit, though. Hirono bounced it off the right field wall by reminding Murkowski who took her to the dance, and reminding Alaskan native interests of what this confirmation might mean to them. That seems to be providing a whole different level of concern than Collins is faking.

Just to be clear, I don't hope Blotus resigns - I'd much rather see him removed in handcuffs! I just think it's possible he'll get that choice.

There's also a term, bliss ninny, the one hears now and again. It refers to people who absorb or embrace enough simplified philosophy or blind belief that they can tune out or deflect reality. They often come from people having sub-cultural flashbacks to the 60's, but come around in politics, too. Some key Hillary messaging people were functional bliss ninnies.

Did you hear, michale, that the 120 hour track put out by GFS (on the 9th) had landfall two miles from where it actually came today? USA!!!

Kick - Credit where credit is due. You were right when you wrote that you thought Manfort was yet going to be a big deal. I began to wonder when ten days or so ago it was leaked that the FBI task force including Ohr had tried to co-opt Deripaska.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spOWFb7zfOo

Don't be ignorant..

THEN come talk to me...

Apparently, you have never seen THE MANHATTAN PROJECT...

Do yerself a favor.. Take care of your ignorance, then you can come back and speak intelligently...

"Exactly my point.. Ya'all live in the bliss of ignorance..."

Trust you to confuse your own quote..."Yes we do, professor.. We don't have the luxury of living in yours.."

In adopting that quote, you identified yourself as the "professor"
"you people" are identified, by extension, as everyone here except you.
"You people" were obviously being cynical.

Oh well.

LL&P

I think if Blotus' option is to resign with at least some plausible-deniablity vs. facing down Mueller in court, he'll take it. I think he'll be lucky if he gets that opportunity, and such an offer hopefully won't come without some penalties.

I think that the government (those that actually abide by their oath to our Constitution) recognizes that the nation needs people to be held responsible for their crimes. Ford pardoning Nixon to help “heal the country” was one of the worst mistakes ever committed by a president. I think it is a big reason why we have the corruption in the GOP that we have seen grow larger and more blatant ever since Watergate; in part because of the precedents it set for how we deal with corruption.

Robert Reich wrote an article last month suggesting that if Mueller’s findings are as bad as most people fear regarding Russia’s influence on the 2016 election’s outcome, we should seek to have the entire presidency annulled. Wipe it all from the books! I don’t see how we wouldn’t be forced to undo everything Trump did as it would all be “fruits of the poisonous tree”.

Exactly my point.. Ya'all live in the bliss of ignorance...

Thank you for confirming my point...

Look up Lanny Davis, Paula..

Cohen's been discredited..

He's a PROVEN liar who is only now saying what you want to hear...

Jesus H Christ, you would excitedly quote Rush Limbaugh if he said what you wanted to hear!! :D

Another word for luxury is bliss. Ignorance's ultimate destiny.

LL&P

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/michael-cohen-mueller

As one longtime friend of Cohen’s put it to me, “He doesn’t feel he needs to go out of his way to protect Trump anymore, particularly because Trump has gone out of his way to hurt Michael.” Earlier this week, Cohen and his attorney sat down with New York state tax-department officials, who subpoenaed him last month as part of their inquiry into the Trump Foundation.

According to people close to him, Cohen closely watched the White House’s reaction to his allocution in court last month. He listened as Trump railed against anyone who makes a plea deal, telling Fox News that cooperating with the government “almost ought to be outlawed.” And he has bristled at the feeling that he has taken the fall for a man who has refused to take any responsibility or face any consequence himself...

When it rains it pours!

OMG! Ep3 of COUNTERPART was a MAJOR mind frak...

Somethings you'll need to know to make it so things make more sense.. No spoilers...

The organization in question is a UN organization..

Everything takes place in Berlin with East and West being relevant.. Took me a few to get used to that...

One "side" is slightly more technologically advanced than the other..

The other "side" is slightly more totalitarian than the other...

The "diplomacy" involved is mind-blowing...

It's a kick ass show I look forward to discussing it with ya.. :D

I assure you, I've come to any opinion I have of The Middle East based solely on years of living among the people I interacted with on a daily basis.

Like I said.. A tourist.. Or worse.. An ignorant civilian...

I can see any reluctance on the part of any 'intelligence apparatus' where you're concerned.

Yea.. Because we deal in REALITY.. In FACTS....

It's an occupational hazard....

"You people!! You live in your own little world, don't you!?"
"Yes we do, professor.. We don't have the luxury of living in yours.."
-The Manhattan Project

*laughs* :)

Or, because I didn't bother to expand on my point, I went to the Middle East in 1994, when tourism in the region wasn't common. I worked in both cities, and Dubai, Damascus and Jeddah...

I assure you, I've come to any opinion I have of The Middle East based solely on years of living among the people I interacted with on a daily basis.

I can see any reluctance on the part of any 'intelligence apparatus' where you're concerned. Simple mutual exclusivity explains the rift between you and intelligence.

LL&P

It's even more base than that the Saudi regime has been bribing foreign officials for decades...

You don't say! You had to leave Canada to encounter that? *wink* :)

It's even more base than thatthe Saudi regime has been bribing foreign officials for decades...

The middle eastern culture look upon bribery as a 'greasing of the wheels' and perfectly normal. I, myself, had to pay a grubby little airport official 300 Dirhams ($100 usd) in Abu Dhabi to let me in the country, and that was on a UK passport! Canadian, American and assorted Arab passengers had to cough up 450 Dirhams...

LL&P

Yep and it's been the "tip of the iceberg" for over 2 years now..

When are we going to see ANY more of those alleged "iceberg"???

Where are the "bombshells" that we have been promised for YEARS!???

I mangled comment 60 with some last minute editing (a dangerous task on my tablet's tiny keyboard and its eccentric white spacing).

You didn't mangle it at all; I understood exactly what you meant. Also, events were happening in real time as we posted. :)

From what I can determine, Mueller has beggared Manafort - financially and legally.

Yep, and it's the tip of the iceberg, TS. There's a reason I call him Benedict Donald. :)

Logic... Facts... Reality...

You should try them sometime..

I've been to both, Tel Aviv and Abu Dhabi...not in that order. I saw that Arabs and Israelis are pretty much the same, ideologically.

You were a tourist.. Of course you saw that.

I have worked extensively with the Israeli military and somewhat less so with it's intelligence apparatus..

You saw the facade.. I saw the reality...

Personally, I don't believe in the state of Israel,

Of course you don't.. That's much of your problem..

Inevitability is the only true constant in the universe.

LL&P

I mangled comment 60 with some last minute editing (a dangerous task on my tablet's tiny keyboard and its eccentric white spacing).

It should have read:

"Manafort is clearly hoping for a pardon, but Trump would probably be unwise to take that risk"

Anyhow, I've had a chance to look over the broad details of the plea agreement, and I agree with your assessment. From what I can determine, Mueller has beggared Manafort - financially and legally.

To understand Trump, you have to think like Trump. Dumb it down: Israel good, Muslims bad.

Something to keep in mind when you're dumbing it down in regards to Trump: He doesn't give two shits about anything not money/valuable or anyone not named Trump (and only a few of them).

Don't believe me? Ask yourself this then:

Question: What country did Trump visit on his first foreign trip as POTUS?

Hint: A theocratic monarchy in which Sunni Islam is the official state religion based on firm Sharia law?

There's a reason he went there first:

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000160-29df-d2ac-a1f2-b9ff83920001

Now, let's do that "think like Trump" exercise again:

Israel: Money
Muslims: Money

What brought you to this epiphany?

I've been to both, Tel Aviv and Abu Dhabi...not in that order. I saw that Arabs and Israelis are pretty much the same, ideologically.

Personally, I don't believe in the state of Israel, I see it as compensation for centuries of abuse at the hands of Christendom. Using biblical commentary as a basis of precedent should not a nation build. Just another example of what a colonial power can do to make a dog's breakfast in a region they can no longer control. The British were masters of mess in the decade following WW2, one ballsup after the other. India (Pakistan) - Palestine (Israel) - Northern Ireland (Eire)… etc, not to mention the African republics.

LL&P

Anyway, I hope and wish it's a reasonable possibility some variation of this will happen.

There.. Fixed it for you. :D Yer welcome..

I think that's the main lever Mueller and/or other "leaders" have. I think most of the folks who would actually have to deal with the ramifications of a genuinely criminal/traitorous POTUS would rather not have to confront all that publicly if they can avoid it. I don't think there's much thirst in the halls of power for a confrontation or stand-off, especially with deplorables out there stroking their guns and fantasizing about shooting liberals.

I also don't think Pence would come out of any of this intact - especially since he was Manafort's choice for Veep. An offer for Blotus to resign doesn't automatically get anyone else off the hook and none of the collection of criminals and grifters surrounding Blotus have his magic with the pod people. Pence has the christianists, but there aren't enough of them and they aren't popular with anyone except themselves.

I think if Blotus' option is to resign with at least some plausible-deniablity vs. facing down Mueller in court, he'll take it. I think he'll be lucky if he gets that opportunity, and such an offer hopefully won't come without some penalties.

Anyway, I think it's a reasonable possibility some variation of this will happen.

You mean, like when Harry Reid tossed the first nuke, ending a Senate "tradition" so the Democrats could have THEIR way?? :D

Democrats drew first blood..

Trump had nothing to do with it, really.

Good of you to acknowledge that Trump is not responsible for EVERY bad thing.. :D

Yea, started it.. Season 1.. I am on episode 3.. Episode 1 was confusing.. By ep 2, it was somewhat clear and got real good...

If you do start it, give it at least 2 eps.. I think you'll like it...

I kinda like where the off-studios do their seasons all at once.. Binge watching is fun, but the let down at the end is a bummer.. :D

All because McConnell was willing to break 200 years of tradition, so that Republicans could have their way. Trump had nothing to do with it, really.

No, but I keep meaning to. Thanks for reminding me, I might dial it up tonight. Do you?

You watch COUNTERPART???

Israel *IS* good.. Muslims, by omission or commission ARE bad...

Once again, I am constrained to point out the FACT that Democrats (that's you, Balthy) *LOVED* Donald Trump when he had a -D after his name..

Further, you don't get to be President Of The United States or be as much of a business success as Trump is by being "dumb"...

Constantly underestimating their opponents is exactly WHY Democrats are in such a politically decimated position...

Thinking Trump is dumb is EXACTLY why Trump is winning so much...

The Judiciary is going to be GOP for GENERATIONS to come.. ALL because Democrats underestimated Trump...

[119] I see that as a possible outcome, more likely, he'll see how he's doing in a year, no way on earth he'll roll the dice on another general re-election unless he's a shoe-in. That leaves god's representative on earth, Pence, to pardon the sins of mortals, and Trump's, alike.

LL&P

J.T.[120]: To understand Trump, you have to think like Trump. Dumb it down: Israel good, Muslims bad.

It took a complete idiot to step into a paper plan and make it worse by enacting a time honoured platitude, one universally agreed upon as a handy 'go-to' submission.

LL&P

I think the odds of that happening have gone up now that Manafort is on board.

OK, I am going to tell you a VERY big secret.. I ask that you not tell anyone because I could get in BIG TROUBLE revealing classified intel like this..

Ready???

US Foreign Policy is NOT based on what will or will not piss of Muslims..

SHHHHHHHH Don't tell anyone I told..... Wait!! Listen!!! Do you smell something??

SHIT!!!!! They're breaking down my door!!!!

AAARRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH I'm toa..........

Sure, why not? It only pisses off every Muslim in the region.

LL&P

"“They said, ‘I think it is Russia.’ I have President Putin. He just said it is not Russia. I will say this: I do not see any reason why it would be.”

In any case of this sort, the perpetrator should be found and prosecuted. Period.

Yes, there are nuts on both sides..

A point I am constantly making..

But when many Weigantians rage at Right Wing nuts, they conveniently forget that there *ARE* Left Wing nuts as well...

Yup: let Russia run amok. That's been the plan so far, hasn't it?

Has it??

Trump has been tougher on Russia than Odumbo was..

"Listen Mendvedev.. Please ask Vlad to give me some space on things.. Once I win my election, I'll be able to be more flexible for him then.."
-Barack Odumbo

I am also sure that Russia did not want to see the US Embassy in Jerusalem and did not want to see Israel and the US working so closely in Syria...

Face reality, Blathy..

The old dead TRUMP IS A PAWN OF PUTIN horse is REALLY beginning to smell...

ON another note, put Avantii and Putin together in the same room..

I bet you can't do it.. :D

Yup: let Russia run amok. That's been the plan so far, hasn't it?

On the same day Arizona held memorial services for the late Sen. John McCain, a Twitter user posted a doctored image that appeared to threaten to shoot Meghan McCain as she wept over her father's casket.

"America," the tweet accompanying the photo read, "this ones for you."

There are nuts on both sides. I assume that Collins is more used to this, and less concerned, than Fox's outrage machine would have us believe.

In any case of this sort, the perpetrator should be found and prosecuted. Period.

Also, the observatory closure IS a prelude to First Contact..

I can't reveal my sources, but that's a fact...

Can't reveal my sources, but that's a fact. :)

So, Collins is "lashing out" against harassment and rape threats to her office..

And you think THAT means she is going to vote NO on Kavanaugh??

On what PLANET???

Please ignore 103, 105 and 106.. I got my wires crossed..

My apologies.. It wasn't you who was touting Collins' "lashing out", it was JM..

My sincerest and most humblest apologies..

THIS is what you are supporting, Balthy???

Disappointment is creeping up again.. :^/

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/09/14/kavanaugh-confirmation-craziness-just-when-think-left-cant-sink-any-lower-this-happens.html

IS that what you were talking about vis a vis Collins???

Democrats and their bribery and extortion scheme??

So, let me get this straight.. These people are donating to a candidate that they don't even know who it is???

And you think THAT is a good thing???

Once again, I have to ask.. How low can Dumbocrats POSSIBLY sink???

Yes, ma'am, and if you read those documents, you'll understand why I said Paulie's fingerprints were all over the events in the Ukraine that were in that documentary Active Measures that we were discussing. :)

Dream on, sunshine.. :D

You just HAVE to know that *THAT* is never going to happen..

You say NO she shouldn't be forced to testify but then you say it's perfectly acceptable to force her to testify..

I think you are playing both sides because you know how heinous what you are proposing is..

That tells me there is hope for you..

I am a little less disappointed now. :D

OK... SO you would advocate forcing this victim to do something she doesn't want to do. Very similar to rape..

OK.. So, basically you are saying..

"That the individual's rights will be protected ONLY SO LONG AS THEY DO NOT CONFLICT WITH THE STATE"
-QUINN, STAR TREK VOYAGER

Or, in this case, the "DEEP STATE"...

Congrats.. You are officially part of the dark side.. Sacrificing the rights of the individual, the right to NOT be compelled to testify, on the altar of a Party agenda..

I have to say, Balthy.. I am disappointed.. :^/

It really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.. Kavanaugh will be confirmed and this perverse and desperate ploy will be tossed on the trash heap of history, returned to the sewer from whence it sprung....

No, but if the information that she has isn't self-incriminating, she can be legally compelled to testify.

The FBI is required by law to investigate this (being their responsibility to vette nominees to the court). Let's see what they come up with.

We should give them 6 months to thoroughly investigate. If it then turns out to be bogus, we could proceed as usual.

What accuser??

Where is this accuser??

All you have is 4th level hearsay.. She said that she said that she said that she said that something happened 35 years ago..

You HAVE no "accuser"....

At the time, it was a factually accurate statement..

Wrong. Facts exist that you know nothing about, but that does not mean they don't exist. :)

Want to see some very interesting information/exhibits from the Manafort DC case? Have at it! :)

https://www.scribd.com/document/388597889/Manafort-DC-Superseding-Criminal-Information

Pleads guilty to TWO... and ONLY TWO charges..

NOTHING about the previous charges, NOTHING bout ANYTHING except those TWO charges...

Nothing about those charges being "rewritten" to make Manafort responsible for the crucifixion of christ and the black plague..

TWO charges..

TWO CHARGES ONLY....

In the interests of preventing a rapist from being appointed to the SCOTUS, do you think that this alleged victim should be FORCED to testify???

It's a simple question..

What say you??

All in the name of keeping a horrible lifetime appointment off the court. Call me complicit.

- justified torture

- lied repeatedly to congress

if that makes me a slave, this is my spirtual.

At the time, it was a factually accurate statement..

Actually, it's a "Judge Kavanaugh is and was a man of the highest impeccable honor and integrity. Both now AND when he was in high school." defense..

But why let FACTS intrude on yer hysterical BS...

Now what FACTS do you have to support YOUR claim??

Oh, an alleged victim who DOESN'T want to pursue it and who Democrats are willing to "rape" (for lack of a better term) in order to push their Party agenda...

Sad...

Of course, there are no facts that prove this is factually accurate...

Untrue statement.

Kavanaugh will be confirmed by the committee on 20 Sep and will sail thru the Senate confirmation shortly there after...

Now, make your prediction and then we can compare.. :D

Actually I am quite sure on the generalities... The unimportant specifics that are irrelevant??

Yea, don't really care..

Tell ya what, let's just table this nomination and get back to it next January, shall we?

And THERE is the entire agenda.... :D

ANYTHING to derail the Kavanaugh nomination, no matter how utterly desperate and despicable it is.. Let Democrats turn into rapists and thugs, forcing a woman to do things she doesn't want to do, all in the name of Party slavery..

Look at what Democrats have become.. You CAN'T think that's a good thing...

Mr. Manafort had resisted any notion of cooperating with Mr. Mueller, and his lawyer said at the outset of the Virginia trial that there was no chance of such cooperation. Mr. Manafort, 69 years old, has been in jail since June, after he was accused of trying to influence the testimony of a potential witness against him.

Yes... Old news. Note the word "had" in sentence one (1) and the fact: That was then; this is now.

No link? That was from the Wall Street Journal, I believe.

Now, your facts to support that Manafort is cooperating with Mueller in his Trump witch hunt??

I can't post it until it goes public on the Internet.

Still has fact-less as it was the first time I read it. :D

So, do you any facts that prove Manafort's deal is ANYTHING other than pleading guilty to just the 2 Virginia charges??

None that I can post yet. :)

46 Million to a guy like Manafort is nothing..

Sure. That's why he was borrowing multiple millions of dollars with the promise of a job in the administration... McFly!

Manafort is only pleading guilty to TWO Virginia charges..

Yes, but those charges were rewritten to include the other charges which were dropped, and Manafort was required to verbally admit his guilt of all charges. It's not complicated. Manafort was required to admit his guilt in both DC and Virginia to all charges.

It's total cooperation... everything he knows. He's remaining in prison for now. He may be allowed to bond out at a later date. :)

Once again.. FACTS (me) vs WISHFUL THINKING (ya'all) :D

WYHTTYTMITYD :)

Once again, NO FACTS to prove this.. Just nothing but wishful thinking..

So, when a woman says NO!! does she really mean YES!!!...

Should this woman be FORCED to pursue this alleged incident even though EVERYONE explicitly agrees that she does NOT want to??

Wow?? What a supporter of women ya'all are... :^/

Basically Manafort has to give Mueller something in return for the plea deal - it is most likely to do with Russian interference in the election, but, in my opinion, isn't likely to be problematic to the White House as I don't think that the Russians included them in any activities (because the key players are obviously so stupid). This could be bad news for Roger Stone in particular, and it could also put paid to the nonsense from the White House that Putin wasn't be involved because he said he wasn't in Helsinki.

Either way, I think this is a big win for Republicans, as long as there really was "NO COLLUSION!!!" as it gets a public trial off the front pages in the run up to the election.

The idiot in the White House will probably take a few days to figure this out on his own.

No, I just needed SOMEONE to confirm it..

At the time the claims were made, it was NOT a factual statement..

Now it is..

Thank you..

Was that so hard to provide FACTS instead of "Well I heard" blaa blaaa blaa blaa

Yeah, I can see you're not sure on that point.

Tell ya what, let's just table this nomination and get back to it next January, shall we?

Do you need Fox News to confirm it for ya?

Here ya go...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/14/paul-manafort-to-plead-guilty-as-part-plea-deal-with-special-counsel.html

GOP sheeple. geeez.

The state representative (or whoever) wrote it to DiFi...

So, basically, ya'all are operating under 4th or 5th level hearsay..

But hay.. NOTHING is too obscure or desperate or ridiculous to push a Party Agenda, eh?? :^/

I would really be interested in your answer, Balthy..

Do you believe that, when a woman says NO, she really means YES??

Then where'd the letter come from?

Of course, there are no facts that prove this is factually accurate...

Where's the witness??

Oh.. She doesn't want to pursue it.

Obviously it's not a big deal with her..

Democrats are MAKING it a big deal for political reasons..

It's DEMOCRATS who are mentally and socially raping this alleged victim just to further their own agenda...

Sad

No.. She told a counselor at school in confidence, who told a minor state representative who told DiFi...

No indication she wanted to pursue it and EVERY indication she DOESN'T want to pursue it..

Or, are you of the opinion that when a woman says NO she really means YES??

:^/

They weren't in the room. But there was, allegedly, another guy who was...

Manafort is clearly hoping for a pardon, but he would probably be unwise to take the risk, as it can be viewed as conspiracy to obstruct justice.

He's not hoping for a pardon anymore, TS; he just agreed to cooperate with Mueller's investigation in exchange for leniency.

In his case in DC, the multiple counts were rewritten as two (2) counts, but Manafort was required to admit he was guilty of all the charges. He was additionally required to admit he was guilty of the 10 charges that resulted in a mistrial in Virginia in exchange for dropping the charges pending his cooperation. Sentencing will therefore be pushed on everything pending Manafort's cooperation. :)

..but brought to the attention of lawmakers. So she wants to pursue it a little bit, wouldn't you say?

Hello!!! McFly!!!

The alleged victim DOESN'T WANT a full investigation..

And the likely reason is because it never happened.. She doesn't want to perjure herself...

We have affidavits from over 35 women who knew Judge Kavanaugh in high school and who say that this alleged victim's claims are bullshit..

This is NOTHING but a grossly and perversely obvious maneuver on the part of the Dumbocrats..

And it will fail...

Mr. Manafort had resisted any notion of cooperating with Mr. Mueller, and his lawyer said at the outset of the Virginia trial that there was no chance of such cooperation. Mr. Manafort, 69 years old, has been in jail since June, after he was accused of trying to influence the testimony of a potential witness against him.

Now, your facts to support that Manafort is cooperating with Mueller in his Trump witch hunt??

Read my post again so I don't have to 'splain it.

Still has fact-less as it was the first time I read it. :D

So, do you any facts that prove Manafort's deal is ANYTHING other than pleading guilty to just the 2 Virginia charges??

No?? OK then..

Forty-six million dollars and admitting you're guilty to the remaining Virginia charges means you're guilty of all 18 counts and isn't getting off easy at all. :)

46 Million to a guy like Manafort is nothing..

"46 million?? Sheet, I think I got that on me.."

Manafort is only pleading guilty to TWO Virginia charges..

That's it..

Once again.. FACTS (me) vs WISHFUL THINKING (ya'all) :D

The woman, who has asked not to be identified, first approached Democratic lawmakers in July, shortly after Trump nominated Kavanaugh. The allegation dates back to the early nineteen-eighties, when Kavanaugh was a high-school student at Georgetown Preparatory School, in Bethesda, Maryland, and the woman attended a nearby high school. In the letter, the woman alleged that, during an encounter at a party, Kavanaugh held her down, and that he attempted to force himself on her. She claimed in the letter that Kavanaugh and a classmate of his, both of whom had been drinking, turned up music that was playing in the room to conceal the sound of her protests, and that Kavanaugh covered her mouth with his hand. She was able to free herself. Although the alleged incident took place decades ago and the three individuals involved were minors, the woman said that the memory had been a source of ongoing distress for her, and that she had sought psychological treatment as a result.

He denies it.

He's lying or she's lying. I think the public deserves a full investigation. He's lied about other things so "taking him at his word" is impossible.

As career ending news goes, "It's always sunny in Pedophilia"

And if we were talking about pedophilia, you would have a point..

But we're not, so you don't...

Like I said above regarding FACTS and "wishful thinking"..

The FACTS are that this is a 35 yr old accusation that the alleged victim doesn't want to pursue..

Of course, Democrats ignore the wishes of the alleged victim because their Party agenda is more important than common decency...

Over 35 women who actually KNEW Kavanaugh in high school attested to Kavanaugh's integrity and good character while in high school..

Against ALL these facts, we have a completely and utterly BASELESS accusation that the alleged victim doesn't want to pursue...

Once again...

FACTS (me)

vs

WISHFUL THINKING (you)

:D

Manafort is clearly hoping for a pardon, but he would probably be unwise to take the risk, as it can be viewed as conspiracy to obstruct justice. It's not clear how long Trump will remain in office, and there are state laws that Trump should worry about* while he remains in office.

It's a classic Prisoners Dilemma. If the prosecution has done their job correctly, both Trump and Manafort are incentivized to rat each other out.

*Of course, Trump is Mad. What Me Worry?

I dunno. Ask Roy Moore or Kevin Spacey what the Statute of Limitations is for career-ending pedophilia.

Hey! That's "Senator Roy Moore" to you, buddy! ;p *laughs*

I dunno. Ask Roy Moore or Kevin Spacey what the Statute of Limitations is for career-ending pedophilia.