Yes.. By all means..

ALL American Traitors need to self-identify so they can be purged and exposed for the gutless cowards that they are...

But this begs the question..

Don't those incompetent workers deserve a "living" wage??

What kind of heartless soulless employer would get rid of incompetent people who just wanted money but didn't want to actually WORK for it!!???

Ah yes.. An employer who runs a successful business... :D

Yeah, speaking of blather, I loved your story about how you discovered that you could increase productivity by hiring competent people to replace the incompetent people you had previously hired.

Did that win you 'Mgr of the Yr' award, or did it occur to your bosses that you were incompetent for hiring the incompetent people in the first place?

I am sure it's appreciated by all.. :D

Yea, but the way they killed of Tasha Yar negates ANY credit they may deserve... :^/

That deserves THE MOST POINTLESS DEATH IN THE HISTORY OF SCI-FI DEATHS award...

And it happened on Picard's watch...

I had read that.. Personally, I love Zachery Quinto's Spock.. He nails Leonard Nimoy as Spock perfectly..

And the Spock tribute that they did in STAR TREK BEYOND was perfection...

As much as despise STAR TREK 90210, they make some great movies.. It's just not Trek...

REAL Star Trek would never kill 6 billion Vulcans just for cheap voova...

Which simply shows the agenda of the writers of TNG vs the writers of TOS.. :D

TV GUIDE did a poll about PICARD vs KIRK..

Readers overwhelmingly chose KIRK if the mission required guts and nerves of steel and integrity.. They wanted PICARD if the mission was namby pamby talking things to death without really accomplishing anything.. :D

So, take the spin that helps you better sleep at night.

:D

*Don't let this confuse you. In TNG, the crew colors were reversed: security wore gold, officers wore red.

"Wait a minute.. Aren't you two wearing the wrong colors??"
"Don't you know ANYTHING about history!??"
"I'm a doctor, not a historian."
"In this time period, command officers wore gold and support services wore red."
"And women wore less.."
"I think I'm going to like history."
-STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE, Trials & Tribulations

:D

Tapes could be released with Trump whimpering to Putin promising to do whatever Russia wants, and Southern Trump supporters would have made excuses for him — but non-Southerners calling Southerners “dumb” because of the way we talk....

OH HELLLLLLLL NO!

I know, right?! Pity that! ;)

^ *thick Southern drawl* ^

I guess it is OK to call Southerners "dumb" now - as in "this dumb Southerner" since Treasonous Trump calls Beauregard the Third that and nobody in the South seems to object.

As someone from Georgia and LA (lower Alabama), I promise you that this is the most damaging thing that could come out of this new book on Trump’s presidency. Tapes could be released with Trump whimpering to Putin promising to do whatever Russia wants, and Southern Trump supporters would have made excuses for him — but non-Southerners calling Southerners “dumb” because of the way we talk....

OH HELLLLLLLL NO!

THAT will never be acceptable!!! Trump might have found the one way to snap awake those that have been under his spell!

Noted.

If you ever get to be a wealth producer you'll understand the realities of the marketplace rather than the Economics 101 class you took 50-60 years ago.

You are once again (as ever) confusing money with real wealth (goods and services). It's kinda axiomatic that we can only consume as much as we produce. When you say wages can go up without an increase in productivity, you're basically saying that we can somehow consume more without producing more.

So where is the "more" gonna come from? The tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, or Santa Claus?

He played the roles that circumstances required of him to safe guard his ship and his crew...

According to A History of Hazard Pay in Starfleet: Mortality rates in TOS vs. TNG, it is more risky to be a member of Kirk's crew than Picard's, particularly is one is a member of the ship's security detail (i.e., a Red shirt).

They write:

The total crew deaths among the two series are fairly even (though TNG ran over twice as long), but the relevant disparity comes in examining where the characters died.

One might conclude that Riker led much safer away missions than Kirk did. While this is certainly true from a fatality perspective, it's also worth pointing out that Riker rarely even brought goldshirt* officers with him; he invariably chose the senior staff. Needless to say, if you're a lower-decker, you're safer on a planet with Riker than you are on the Enterprise-D, but even then you're better off there than you'd be on a planet with Kirk.

*Don't let this confuse you. In TNG, the crew colors were reversed: security wore gold, officers wore red.

The inevitable conclusion is that Picard's diplomatic and even nature made life aboard the Enterprise D far safer than it was for the crew serving under J.T. "shoot first, ask questions later" Kirk. ;)

I'm already looking forward to this book.

"We're in Crazytown. I don't even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I've ever had." - John Kelly

When will the gullible wake up to this con man?

Dressing down generals, lamenting paranoidly "everybody's trying to get me", “Let’s fucking kill him! Let’s go in. Let’s kill the fucking lot of them,” and I have spent 40 years consuming hundreds of books on the Nazi's, and in particularly, Hitler, one quote shook me... Trump refered to his dealings with Jong Un as a contest of "wills"....“This is all about leader versus leader. Man versus man. Me versus Kim.”

All the bullshit aside, forget the partisan shit. If this book is even just built on innuendo, there's a massive problem we all might wish we didn't have.

Hitler wasn't eating the carpet like this until 1943m after the battle of Kursk, in 42, Hitler had himself a little break down, emerging in 43 yammering shit like Trump is now.

I'll concede trump has done great, yeah...all hail trump the great.

Now, how the fuck do get this guy out of the oval office?

LL(if we're lucky)&P

but they are without relevance at the level I'm talking about.

Nice attempt to dodge, but you were convinced that wages could only rise if productivity rose. I showed you clearly that the reverse can happen.

It is called "investment" and it is a fundamental part of economics. Since you live off the government it might be an alien concept to you, but it is a pretty handy one for wealth builders.

In that, he was much like President Trump... Who also plays roles to safe guard his country and Americans world-wide...

And with that nugget, you have let it be known (and it is not retractable) that you have really drunk the Kool-Aid. Man, are you gullible!

I've got really bad news for you, Michale: What you see is what you get with Benedict Donald. He sold out this country in a quid pro quo. He's not masterminding anything because you can't be a master if you don't have a mind. :)

"Ethan Peck has been cast as Spock -- the half-human, half-Vulcan Science Officer of the U.S.S. Enterprise, and foster brother of Michael Burnham -- in the upcoming second season of Star Trek: Discovery. Peck is the grandson of legendary actor Gregory Peck, who counted among his final projects the 1998 TV miniseries Moby Dick, which starred Patrick Stewart as Captain Ahab, the role Gregory Peck famously played in the 1956 movie of the same name."

LL&P

Great post.

We Texans certainly know how to drive a hard bargain, and our time is infinitely valuable.

"Sheldon" was to knock on the door of an apartment (it seems this is a meme in the show") and say our product name three times.

Was it perchance... Beetlejuice? ;)

If I punch Victoria in the face because she pisses me off, it's almost assured that I am going to jail...

Only after your fat ass got out of the hospital. :)

If President Trump punches Victoria in the face because she pissed him off, he is surely going back to the White House..

Only after Trump's fat ass got out of the hospital.

Later, I will testify against Trump in criminal court:

United States of America

v.

Benedict Donald Trump a.k.a. Cadet Bone Spurs
Five Deferments Got His Fat Orange Ass Kicked

because no one is above the law.

If the President commits a crime, there are committees and hearings and MAYBE, in a few years time, if at all, the President may go to jail..

So you are making his point that no one is above the law. Thank you for that concession. Case closed. :)

I love it! Great post.

McCoy would interject: "My god man, why would we even consider a candidate that has already lied to us in his previous confirmation?

Under penalty of perjury... under oath. Why not commit perjury if there is no penalty?

THAT clears up a lot of things..

Us line grunts had a name for those types..

Back office weenies..

No offense intended.. :D

And the Federation...

He played the roles that circumstances required of him to safe guard his ship and his crew...

In that, he was much like President Trump... Who also plays roles to safe guard his country and Americans world-wide...

I can whole-heartedly endorse that sentiment.. :D

As to the rest, :D It's funny.. :D

In the simplest, most basic analysis of economic principles, a persons wages (in the case of an employee) are his share of whatever the venture produces. And how large his share is is determined by the laws of supply and demand for the set of skills/talents he possesses. Or, in the case of an entrepreneur, his 'wages' (income) is the profit generated by the venture, after expenses are covered. You simply cannot argue with the principle that wages/income are a direct function of productivity without sounding foolish.

I understand where you are coming from and what your problem is. You are thinking/operating in the realm of managment and/or engineering of the details of the operation of the venture/business in question, and your analyses are not without merit, but they are without relevance at the level I'm talking about.

What you tend to understand and relate to is to the fundamentals of the laws and principles of economics as engineering is to the laws and principles of physics. The most basic and fundamental stuff passes over your head, because it only remotely relates to who you are and what you do.

But don't let that bug you, you are in the majority in that respect.

;)

LL&P

Yer missing out if you have never watch Big Bang Theory...

Highly recommended..

As to your anecdote.. Yea.. Seems as if Jim Parsons is quite the entrepreneur... More power to him..

On a MUCH SMALLER scale... I was hoping for a BAZINGA in HOME.... :D

I once tried to do a marketing deal with Walter Koenig.. Traded some emails, but the deal fell thru.. It was nice ta trade the emails, but would have been nicer to meet him in person... :D

Oops - left italics on - should have been stopped at "So"

Don'tcha just HATE when that happens.. :D

We started with a $250K offer, and gradually worked up to $800K (this is for about 5-10 seconds of screen time), but "Sheldon" refused and countered with about $1.5M so I pulled the plug.

When you're wrong, you are really wrong CRS. This, at best, is half the picture, and only applies in certain circumstances.

Many years ago I discovered that an "A" computer programmer was 2-3 times as productive as a "B" computer programmer, and at only a 10-20% premium for the most part.

As I was one of the top officers in the start up I changed the hiring philosophy - to increase productivity, I increased the budget for wages and slowed down increases in headcount. It was very effective - bug counts went down, customer support calls due to bugs went down, and revenues went up. The higher wages led to improved competitive differentiation and drove both productivity and profits (due to a slowdown in hiring in Engineering, QA and Customer Support).

This wasn't exactly a new discovery - just look at the link between wages and results for soccer teams - books on soccer economics (and I assume other sports) highlight the increased success of teams that pay for the best players.

You obviously have only a passing clue about economics. Also, watching "The Big Short" doesn't make you an expert on the mechanisms that led to the great recession (you got quite high up your ivory tower about that as well recently).

Unfortunately, the number of documents needed was approximately one million, one hundred thousand.

Was it??

Do you have ANY facts that says that Dumbocrats will be happy AFTER they have those 100,000 documents??

No you do not..

But *I* have FACTS that *PROVE* Dumbocrats will NEVER be satisfied with **ANY** documents..

The FACT that they opposed the nominee EVEN BEFORE THEY KNEW WHO IT WAS.....

SO, Democrats can go jump off a balcony...

Their political machinations are most transparent...

Or do you maintain your humanity and, as a result, see hundreds die...

For the record, the decision was not always an easy decision for me... NOW, I am MORE than willing to shoulder the guilt of torture if it saves ONE innocent life...

ONE time, I made the wrong decision and 20 innocent people paid for that with their lives......

That set me right for every decision I made after that...

I have faced my Kobyashi Maru more times than I want to count...

[96]Dumbocrats had access to almost a MILLION documents about Kavanaugh..

Unfortunately, the number of documents needed was approximately one million, one hundred thousand.

He most certainly is..

If I punch Victoria in the face because she pisses me off, it's almost assured that I am going to jail...

If President Trump punches Victoria in the face because she pissed him off, he is surely going back to the White House..

If you commit a crime, cops or a SWAT team will knock on your door and put you down and take you to jail..

If the President commits a crime, there are committees and hearings and MAYBE, in a few years time, if at all, the President may go to jail..

The hell the POTUS isn't above the law..

Not EVEN equivalent. Kobyashi Maru was certainly difficult and extremely uncomfortable, but it was a simulation with safeties and safeguards, an educational course on a test of character. It wasn't any more "torture" than the kind of training we subject our own elite military forces to. Unless you want to call that state sponsored torture also???

The Kobyashi Maru is a test of character.. How do you, as a leader of men, respond to a NO-WIN situation..

So it is with torturing a terrorist.. It's a no win situation.. Do you forgo your humanity and get information that will likely save hundreds???

Or do you maintain your humanity and, as a result, see hundreds die...

That's the Kobyashi Maru in a nutshell.. Do you follow regs, stay outside the neutral zone and allow hundreds of colonists to die??

Or do you frak regulations and concentrate solely on saving lives at the expense of the safety of your crew and committing a court martial offense???

The question of torture or not to torture is the KOBYASHI MARU in spades...

Oooo I love it when you talk Trek..

But how do we know that Starling wasn't simply part of the natural timeline?? I mean, change Starling to "Gates" or "Jobs" and it fits.. :D

Again, they've evolved with bigger budgets and changing make-up technology.

None of which has ANYTHING to do with the Trek universe..

You miss my point.. In the REAL world, I know why they made the changes.. Just like the made Klingons lobster heads in ST:TMP....

Because they could...

But we're talking CANON within the ST universe. And, according to Canon, the Klingons in STD should like more or less human....

DS9'S TRIBBLES AND TRIBULATIONS teased us with the paradox and ST:ENT explained the paradox...

For me, the Klingon As Human story arc was *THE* best story arc of ST:ENT.. Followed by a close second with the T'Pau/Surak/Vulcan story arc...

"It was NOT the Pike's Enterprise.." Again, to me, the look is less important than the FACT of when, where and HOW Warp Drive was established.

That was established in STAR TREK VII: FIRST CONTACT... Incidentially, THAT was when the regular universe and the Mirror Universe diverged, if you believe NON-CANON novels.. :D

It's still a saucer with two nacelles, that's what's important.

For the most part, I am a purist.. DS9's T&T could have changed the look of the Enterprise circa SPACE STATION K7 to exploit the newer television and special effects technology... But it was important to the STORY, to CANON, that it be left as it was...

So it is with Discovery...

The ONE thing that Roddenberry insisted on throughout ALL of Trek was consistency...

This newer generation of Trekker-wannabes have thrown out consistency for cheap voova...

"By the Constitution, the POTUS *IS* above the law..."

Sorry, that's the most asinine statement I have ever heard. He is most certainly NOT above the law. He's not above the constitution which is the law. To say otherwise is to throw democracy, freedom and the rule of law right out the window. We might as well be living in the old Soviet Union then if that's the case.

"As for state-sponsored torture???

Have you ever heard of the Kobyashi Maru??"

Not EVEN equivalent. Kobyashi Maru was certainly difficult and extremely uncomfortable, but it was a simulation with safeties and safeguards, an educational course on a test of character. It wasn't any more "torture" than the kind of training we subject our own elite military forces to. Unless you want to call that state sponsored torture also???

"3 major ones...

The technology for Discovery is a hundred or more years ahead of Kirk & Spock's Enterprise..."

I was never really concerned with the "look" that much. What you can portray on the screen is very much going to change with our contemporary changing technology. Plus you can still make all kinds of excuses if you want to, like Henry Starling speeding up Earth's technological advancement in late 20th century Earth on Voyager.

"Klingons. Klingons should be more or less human, as established in TOS and ST:Ent..."

Again, they've evolved with bigger budgets and changing make-up technology. TOS Klingons looked so Human because of constraints on those very TWO things at the time. Though I agree you shouldn't mess with a good thing that's become so EXPECTED.

"It was NOT the Pike's Enterprise.." Again, to me, the look is less important than the FACT of when, where and HOW Warp Drive was established. Not so much the changing look of the engine design, etc. It's still a saucer with two nacelles, that's what's important.

By the Constitution, the POTUS *IS* above the law...

As for state-sponsored torture???

Have you ever heard of the Kobyashi Maru??

Spock would add that it is illogical to hold a hearing before all of the predicate facts are known.

Oh pullleeese.. This was a planned Democrat obstruction.. Facts have NOTHING to do what what the Dumbocrats did..

The fact that there may be as many as 100,000 pertinent documents being withheld from the hearing ought to be reason enough to delay it until such documents can be examined.

Dumbocrats had access to almost a MILLION documents about Kavanaugh..

Do you HONESTLY believe that Dumbshitcrats will see those 100,000 documents and say, "Oh yea.. Our bust.. Kavanaugh is qualified..."

You and I both know that yer full of shit on that claim..

Dumbocrats were against Kavanaugh before they even KNEW he was the nominee..

So, please.. Don't give me the bullshit that Dumbocrats want more time to look at papers..

Now, can we PLEASE leave Trek out of your hysterical Party slavery...

PS.... Balthazar, I still like ya... :D Just wish ya weren't played by that creep Sebastion Roche'

Spock would add that it is illogical to hold a hearing before all of the predicate facts are known. The fact that there may be as many as 100,000 pertinent documents being withheld from the hearing ought to be reason enough to delay it until such documents can be examined.

McCoy would interject: "My god man, why would we even consider a candidate that has already lied to us in his previous confirmation? Have we lost all of our marbles, or just the ones essential to critical thinking?"

Picard would add: "This ambitious fellow may look like a pasty-faced would-be televangelist, or distant relative of Data, but he certainly deserves a fair hearing. It is equally true, however, that on our world, a 'fair hearing' requires a degree of transparency that the organizers of this tribunal have not lived up to. I would withdraw my participation until this situation is rectified."

It'll be very interesting to see how STD S02 treats Kirk..

DS9's TRIALS & TRIBULATIONS got in one or two not so subtle digs at Kirk, much like LaForge laid into Captain Scott in TNG's RELICS...

And there is TPTB's attempt to separate "STAR TREK" from ENTERPRISE....

So, yea... It will be interesting to see how STD S02 treats Kirk...

Oh wow!! :D

I was a bit concerned about the extended Mirror Universe stay as well.. But it was handled pretty well and was crucial to the story line, so I ended up enjoying it...

Interesting to note. If you extend CANON to the novels, then the entire ST:ENTERPRISE was actually part of the Mirror Universe.. :D

. Past iterations have saved that story line for when ratings slide. DS9-Trials and Tribulations etc...

Actually, DS9-T&T was not due to a ratings slide.. It was to celebrate the 40th Anniversary of Trek..

Interesting story behind that.. Originally the story was to have the Defiant visit ICONIA from A PIECE OF THE ACTION and discover that the entire planet has embraced "Star Trek" complete with conventions and such.. Think the Thermians from GALAXY QUEST...

The uppity ups from DS9 were dining in a local eatery when in walks Charlie Brill the original Arne Darvin from ST TOS Trouble With Tribbles... The uppity ups got ta thinking... And TRIALS & TRIBULATIONS was borne..

Another interesting thing to note.. When Bashir and O'Brien exit the transporter room after being chewed out by Kirk, the peek around the corner and see a lone red shirt petting a tribble. That red shirt is none other than David Gerrold, the author of the original Trouble With Tribbles episode.. :D

I'm guessing a young Spock will make an appearance, among others...I'm looking forward also.

Word is both Spock and Kirk will put in an appearance in Season 2 of STD...

Paul Stamets, the real mushroom hunter, for which the Discovery Stamets is named, has some good video's on youtube, being a mycologist (part time) I recommend his stuff...

Live long and carefully around the toxic fungi. ;)

Paul Stamets, the real mushroom hunter, for which the Discovery Stamets is named, has some good video's on youtube, being a mycologist (part time) I recommend his stuff...

LL&P

And once more, Crack Whore Welfare Girl ruins a perfectly good commentary, even after an olive branch is extended...

But enough about your wife and family situation already; your lives that you continue to project are well documented by your own posts scattered throughout Weigantia and now archived. The fact that you would confuse an insult toward the board as an "olive branch" tells everyone on the board everything they need to know.

Yes... Discussions about Trek are much more pleasant than some crack whore blog terrorist who has proven she is a waste of skin...

Speaking of a waste of skin, you projection is again duly noted. I would wager there is enough extra skin on your carcass to cover another entire human skeleton. If this fact actually bothers you, why don't you push your chair from the table and lose some of that girth attached to your body habitus? After your adipose tissue recedes, all that wasted skin you abhor could be donated and utilized for a higher purpose. It's a solution you could probably learn to live with and might stave off another trip to the hospital. You're welcome.

The best course of action for Welfare Girl is to eat a bullet... Victoria, please do so at your earliest convenience...

Translation: Michale wishes to dish it out regularly and repetitively, but he's a whiny little bitch victim when it comes to getting it back in his general direction.

If you're asking someone to kill themselves because you can't handle some itty bitty words, you're losing. :)

There is this one where Q & Picard go traipsing around the entire Trek universe/timeline involving characters such as the spinning globe that feeds on hate, Gary Mitchell (That was Q that possessed Mitchell after he failed to possess Kirk), Gorgon, Trelane (who is a Q), Quinn, Corbin Bernsen's Q and all sorts of Trek characters...

It's a mega mind-treat for Trekkers..... I highly recommend...

I would give my right nut to see Q in Discovery...

Q was decent in DS9, but proved he still had it in VOYAGER...

Q in Discovery could be all sorts of Mind F**ks.... :D

3 major ones...

The technology for Discovery is a hundred or more years ahead of Kirk & Spock's Enterprise... Holographic Communications was NEW technology in Deep Space Nine's time.. The viewscreen in TOS's Enterprise was not a "window" but rather a display panel that displayed anything.. So, the technological level of Discovery is a HUGE Canon violation..

Klingons. Klingons should be more or less human, as established in TOS and ST:Ent... These Klingons.... I don't know WHAT the hell they are!!?? Although the titty shots were.... uh... er... firmly appreciated.... :D

The Enterprise... The Enterprise pictured at the end of Season 1 was the Enterprise of Star Trek The Motion Picture..

It was NOT the Pike's Enterprise..

Canon was VERY important to Roddenberry and to Trek Fans...

Discovery threw Canon right out the window.. It's not surprising.. Discovery is helmed by the same guy who tried to distant Enterprise from Star Trek...

But despite that, I like the show.. The action is very Trek'ian...

Oh, and the acronym??? STD???

SOMETHING has to be done about that... :D

The Spore Drive? Transwarp was a failure too in the Kirk movie the Search For Spock, until it later appeared in a modified form with the Borg Transwarp conduits.

Democrats got so rambunctious and violent that Judge Kavanaugh's young daughters had to be rushed from the room for their safety...

Democrats seriously have absolutely no shame.. That's been proven here and in DC... :^/

"What's yer thoughts on Discovery???

Despite the Canon violations, I like it..

But it was really tough to overcome the violations..."

I love Discovery. Can't wait for the new season.

I thought there were really nice plot twists and references to previous Trek.

I'd be interested to know what canon violations you exactly are having such problems with? If they jibe with mine etc. The new look for the Klingons? A never before mentioned adopted human sister for Spock? Something else? As we know, there's always a lot of room for changes, including new timelines. Nothing is ever canon until it appears, and even then can be modified later.

Yes... Discussions about Trek are much more pleasant than some crack whore blog terrorist who has proven she is a waste of skin...

The best course of action for Welfare Girl is to eat a bullet... Victoria, please do so at your earliest convenience...

This forum would definitely be better off...

What's yer thoughts on Discovery???

Despite the Canon violations, I like it..

But it was really tough to overcome the violations...

And the problem with that is you are the type of person who hurls homophobic slurs and who thinks that attacking a man's wife and children is appropriate in this kind of forum..

You are sadly mistaken if you believe that the majority on this board believes the asinine idea that you give two shits about what you're continually mischaracterizing as "homophobic slurs" when you keep requesting the posters who disagree with your regular repertoire to "suck your dick" and "kiss your ass" and regularly make excuses for the verbal diarrhea that spews forth from the Orange Blowhole of the orange man-baby of which you are the Trump cock holster. The attacks on you and your family are nothing more than the ad hominem attacks emanating from your keyboard and me pointing out how those insults are indeed your admitted situation. If you take issue with someone calling attention to your projection, then I suggest you stop hurling the descriptors which you resemble.

So, as YOU see them is, thank the gods, vastly in the minority in this forum..

If that were a factual statement, there would be no need for you to assume the role of the "ever aggrieved victim" who claims to never "instigate anything" but attacks the entire board routinely with your near-daily cries of "Party slaves," "bigots," "hysterical," "Dumbocrats," and your near-daily spew that everyone except you is suffering from a disease you invented. You should really clue in to your repetitive routine.

That you need to "win" at something... anything... is painfully obvious. That you seemingly believe that you "win" something by claiming somebody "lost" and by tearing everyone else down and assuming the role of board victim, posting fake quotes, fabricating and false equivalency, and putting words in everyone else's mouths is just pathetic.

It's your near-daily handiwork; own it. :)

"75 MONTHS of CONSTANT job creation during his presidency is a funny way to measure failure.

Yea, a few here and there.. That's pretty OK..."

OMG! I actually got faint praise from you for Obama!

"Victory is mine!" - Stewie Griffin

ROFL!

Sheldon turned down a 50 million dollar contract...

More power to 'im, but Bang will be missed...

"I love Brent Spiner and Michael Dorn!!! And Burton!! Did you catch Spiner & Burton in that Big Bang Theory episode!!?? OMG it was hilarious... :D

Thanx for sharing that.. Sincerely..."

I love Big Bang. I never miss it. And you're welcome :-D

Regardless of all other bullshit..

We always have Trek... :D

And THAT was a nice touch by a ST fan.. :D

https://trekmovie.com/2018/09/03/photo-of-the-day-star-trek-the-next-generation-cast-reunified/

Oh my gods, that is sooo awesome!!!

I love Brent Spiner and Michael Dorn!!! And Burton!! Did you catch Spiner & Burton in that Big Bang Theory episode!!?? OMG it was hilarious... :D

Thanx for sharing that.. Sincerely...

Because I was...$17,000 per person for Canada

That's our relative debt, I know, I know, socialism takes everyone money. lets look at the facts.

$75,697...after tax take home on $100,000 in the US.

$73,876...after tax take home on $100,000 in Canada.

So, it seems not only is it patently incorrect that socialism takes everyone's, we actually see that it doesn't run up massive national debt either.

Oh well...seems universal healthcare, dental and free prescriptions until you're 18 does cost a huge amount...$1,830 per year on a 100k per year, while at the same time not accruing $38,000 of debt.

I concede, I wanna live in Murica.

lol, In other words, my 'socialistic democratic state' does not steal all my money to pay for my social net, it also doesn't hide it's budgetary over-reach from me in the form of a national debt.

Now you have the facts...not my facts, the facts, all taken from the respective government sites and are not open to any debate, unless you don't trust your present government not to lie to you, and if you think they do, they would reduce numbers, not inflate them.

Thanks for coming out.

LL& BOOOYAA

Not a big fan of reality TV.. But my lovely wife watches it occasionally..

But I may have misspoke.. My apologies.

What I was saying is that, on the one hand, you can fund another employee because your business is growing and you can justify that..

On the OTHER hand, you can fund a car for an employee who is too lazy to get another job to pay for a car...

Doing the latter makes you feel all warm and squishy inside but does nothing for your business...

So, you opt to make a good PERSONAL decision but a shitty BUSINESS decision..

Hay, don't get me wrong.. I been there...

75 MONTHS of CONSTANT job creation during his presidency is a funny way to measure failure.

Yea, a few here and there.. That's pretty OK...

But TENS OF MILLIONS of jobs are a LOT better.. :D

I get it.. You want to cheer on yer guy and hate on the guy you hate...

But facts are facts..

You claimed Trump would destroy the economy..

Now that he has made it awesome, yer trying to peddle the BS that it was all because of Odumbo..

You were wrong before and now yer just trying to save face...

But even if I won't let you do that, I still like ya :D

Hey Michale, have you seen this???

https://trekmovie.com/2018/09/03/photo-of-the-day-star-trek-the-next-generation-cast-reunified/

"If Odumbo was responsible, why couldn't he do it BEFORE Trump was elected???"

UH. HE DID. HE pulled us OUT of the BUSH depression.

Answer: Odumbo couldn't.. Odumbo FAILED

75 MONTHS of CONSTANT job creation during his presidency is a funny way to measure failure.

"So, we need to face the reality that your opinions are solely based on Party slavery and do no stand up to my FACTS..."

Yet again you are so cute! You actually think you have FACTS. :-)

"No, Of course I won't fund them a Tesla, but I might fund them a 20 year old Ford, or a bicycle. J

You would???

So, let's see.. You can fund another employee??"

UH NO. YOU know very well I was speaking as an employer, NOT as a FELLOW employee. I guess you never watched UNDERCOVER BOSS???

JOBS, JOBS, JOBS....

The fact is the economy IS roaring...

If Odumbo was responsible, why couldn't he do it BEFORE Trump was elected???

Answer: Odumbo couldn't.. Odumbo FAILED

*THAT* is why we have President Trump...

Once again, it's my position that the economy is doing well in spite of ANYTHING Trump has tried, not BECAUSE OF.

ANd yet, you are on record as saying, by commission or omission, that Trump would DESTROY the economy...

So, we need to face the reality that your opinions are solely based on Party slavery and do no stand up to my FACTS...

You would???

So, let's see.. You can fund another employee?? Or you can buy another employee who doesn't want to work for it, a car..

While the latter may make you feel all warm and squishy, it's a bad business decision...

UH NO. Obama increased funding for NASA every year, as did Democrats like Bill Nelson.

That is factually inaccurate..

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/322918-how-barack-obama-ruined-nasa-space-exploration

And I voted for Bill Nelson.. Never again...

Ooooooohhhhhh SNAP....

Yep, Kapernutz proves once again..

It's all about the money....

Secret to Japan couple's 80 years of marriage: wife's patience
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-ageing-oldest-couple/secret-to-japan-couples-80-years-of-marriage-wifes-patience-idUSKCN1LK0XH

A frakin' MEN to that!!! :D

"Would you ever make a business decision based SOLELY on the welfare of your employees?? Pay an employee more because he wants a Tesla???"

And that's the problem in a nutshell right there. Wrong equivalence or analogy. No, Of course I won't fund them a Tesla, but I might fund them a 20 year old Ford, or a bicycle. Just like I would not fund them a 60 inch plasma TV, but I would try to pay them enough so that they don't go hungry at the end of the month. Get or see the difference???

"We only spend 0.5 % of the Federal budget on NASA TODAY.

And who do we have to thank for that??

Odumbo and the Dumbocrats..."

UH NO. Obama increased funding for NASA every year, as did Democrats like Bill Nelson. It was REPUBLICAN NIXON who originally GUTTED the Apollo program.

"Boom Boom Boom.. Another one bites the dust..
And another one down and another one down...
Another one bites the dust..."
-Queen

:D

Obviously the latter is eminently more qualified than the former to address the question of which system works for the average democratically aware individual,

Yea.. Let's ask Venezuelans how the like Socialism.. :D

Once again..

Opinion... Noted... Irrelevant... :D

"Gods, I really hate it when it's YOU I back into a corner like this, JM.. Because I really do like you..."

Again I see your mistake. Oh it's so cute you think you backed me into a corner! :-D

What did Trump A, B, C do that made the economy roar? Cut taxes? The economy was already roaring before that. Raise tariffs and start a trade war? Yeah, I'm sure that has a positive impact. Deregulation? Marginal impact at best.

Once again, it's my position that the economy is doing well in spite of ANYTHING Trump has tried, not BECAUSE OF. Back me into a corner, you really are so CUTE. :-)

It did BEFORE they became CEOs.

And in the few cases it didn't?? Yea, I agree.. It's too bad..

But would you prefer the government dictating to businesses who their CEO should and should not be??

Regardless, I am not talking about those kinds of businesses..

I am talking about the Mom and Pop businesses who are the back bone of this one remaining great superpower...

Have you ever owned a business??

Would you ever make a business decision based SOLELY on the welfare of your employees?? Pay an employee more because he wants a Tesla???

We only spend 0.5 % of the Federal budget on NASA TODAY.<

And who do we have to thank for that??

Odumbo and the Dumbocrats...

Thank you.. You prove my point for me..

Some people, having never lived in a socialist leaning democracy, are utterly clueless as to what it means to do so, but that's cool for them, being wrong isn't crime, nor is ignorance, they're just choices. Whereas other people might have lived in under both systems, weighed them, and may or may not have decided which is better. Obviously the latter is eminently more qualified than the former to address the question of which system works for the average democratically aware individual, I would imagine such a person would remain in the system best suited to his or her imagining of what a well oiled democratic system can be.

LL&P

My mistake then...

Oh.. do you have ANY facts to support that taxes were raised on the poor??

Because, how can you raise taxes on a group that PAYS no taxes???

"Lemme ask you something, JM...

How can you "cut taxes" for the poor and lower middle class when they PAY no taxes??"

IF we WERE talking about cutting taxes for the poor or the middle class, you would have a point, but we WEREN'T, so YOU DON'T. In fact, I believe I WAS talking about RAISING taxes on the poor and middle class, no???

"That is the ONLY consideration that should figure into pay.. The complexity or physical nature of the work and/or the education required to successfully accomplish the work.."

Too bad that DOESN'T apply to CEO's at the top. As their compensation is totally divorced from how well either they or their company are doing. How many times have you heard of a CEO being let go because of poor performance but yet still being let go with a generous package of millions of dollars? Can you imagine the same thing happening with a grocery store cashier??? Sorry, we are going to fire you for being totally incompetent at your job, but we are GIVING you 20,000 dollars for firing you.

"The US didn't put a man on the moon by NASA being a social welfare agency..."

DIDN'T WE??? We spent 4.5 % of the Federal budget on the Apollo program ONLY because it was a MILITARY race to the moon against the Russians. We only spend 0.5 % of the Federal budget on NASA TODAY. Sure sounds like MILITARY WELFARE to me!!!

Yea, the NorthEast side of a cyclone is usually the worst part and yer gonna see some of that.. Stay safe...

Oh, I see your mistake. It's not that I refuse to see Trump's hand in it. I would in fact give him credit if he did indeed were responsible for it. It is my contention however that the economy is performing well in spite of Trump, not because of anything Trump has actually done.

OK.. Let me see if I understand what you are saying..

TRUMP said he is going to do A, B and C if elected...

Odumbo, Clinton and the rest of the Dumbocrats (and ya'all incidentally) say that if Trump is elected and does A, B and C, it will DESTROY the country and DESTROY the economy...

Trump is elected..

Trump does A, B and C and miracle of miracles, it works awesomely and this country has an economy that is EXPLODING in good things..

But NOW... NOW, Odumbo and the Dumbocrats (and ya'all incidentally) are saying that ALL the good that is happening is NOT because of President Trump doing A, B and C.....

??????

So, how does that work exactly???

Trump says he is going to do A, B and C...

Odumbo and the Dumbocrats say THAT will destroy the country and economy...

Trump DOES A, B and C....

Economy explodes in a very VERY good way...

Trump is not the one who should get the credit.. The one who should get the credit are the ones who BULLSHITTED thru their teeth and said those very action would DESTROY the economy...

?????????

Explain that to me...

Gods, I really hate it when it's YOU I back into a corner like this, JM.. Because I really do like you...

It's how I felt when Mopshell got backed into a corner over Harry Reid's illegal immigration comments..

It's a win, but it makes me feel shitty...

Just sose you know.. :D

"First off, you battened down??"

Thank you for your concern. All we are getting is some rain here. So far the forecast takes Gordon toward the Mississippi and Alabama coasts, but will definitely keep an eye on it.

"You refuse to acknowledge the reality of the awesome economy and President Trump's hand in it.."

Oh, I see your mistake. It's not that I refuse to see Trump's hand in it. I would in fact give him credit if he did indeed were responsible for it. It is my contention however that the economy is performing well in spite of Trump, not because of anything Trump has actually done.

1) CUT TAXES for the wealthy!

Lemme ask you something, JM...

How can you "cut taxes" for the poor and lower middle class when they PAY no taxes??

Secondly, there are well documented reports of poor and middle class seeing MORE in their pay checks BECAUSE of those "tax cuts to the wealthy"....

You see, that's the problem with RIGHT WING GOODIES. It ALWAYS RUNS on people's money OTHER than the WEALTHY.

Since it's well documented that the people you CLAIM to represent don't pay much, if any, in taxes, you are obviously operating in a delusional echo chamber...

"And THEN who is going to pay for all these goodies???

You see, THAT is the exact problem with socialism...

It ALWAYS runs out of other people's money..."

AND just HOW is that ANY different from:

1) CUT TAXES for the wealthy! We'll let the POOR pay for the remaining government services instead by taxing them MORE or CUTTING their benefits or BOTH.

2) SPEND MORE on the military, and fighting wars on CREDIT. We can't find 100 BILLION dollars for Medicare for ALL, it will break the bank and run up the deficit. But HEY, want to spend 10 times that! or ONE TRILLION dollars for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. NO PROBLEM! Why worry about the fiscal consequences???

You see, that's the problem with RIGHT WING GOODIES. It ALWAYS RUNS on people's money OTHER than the WEALTHY.

First off, you battened down??

Don't you think YOU are the one who should revise their thinking to reflect actual REALITY in the world?

Secondly, do you REALLY think you are in a position to discuss the REALITY in the world??

You refuse to acknowledge the reality of the awesome economy and President Trump's hand in it..

So, while I still like ya, you have to agree that you and reality are not very well acquainted..

:D

"In the real world (the one where Dems/Libs never live), it's 'Being more productive makes better wages'.

Wages are A DIRECT FUNCTION OF PRODUCTIVITY, not the other way about, for gawdsake!"

You do know that this is utter B.S. right????

As Balthasar correctly pointed out to you: Productivity has soared while wages have stagnated since the 1980's.

This is the reason for discontent, for people feeling like the system is rigged against them, for all the wealth created going to the 1% at the top, for growing inequality AND for the election of TRUMP.

Don't you think YOU are the one who should revise their thinking to reflect actual REALITY in the world?

Once again, America hating morons and scumbags underestimate the power of PATRIOTIC Americans.. :D

Why on earth would these total fraking morons think that hating on America = good business??

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Thank you.. Yer opinion is noted, but irrelevant...

American manufacturers growing at fastest pace in 14 years, ISM finds
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/american-manufacturers-growing-at-fastest-pace-in-14-years-ism-finds-2018-09-04

Making America great again... :D

Yes you do.. The way YOU see them..

And the problem with that is you are the type of person who hurls homophobic slurs and who thinks that attacking a man's wife and children is appropriate in this kind of forum..

So, as YOU see them is, thank the gods, vastly in the minority in this forum..

Liz,
Once again, I tried... :^/

Yes, Liz, he tried... to con me. The problem arose when my gullibility failed to equal his own. :)

Americans, in general, realise that by hiding a portion of this guys professional life, from people who have clearance to spare, looks....looks like they have something to hide. If anyone who enjoys the benefits of a democracy thinks that is 'transparency' is a fucking idiot.

ya, I know...somewhere down line the dems did too, blah blah...my kids say the same thing all the time.

LL&P

I try to have a civil conversation and actually compliment you and you turn it into a personal attack...

You are actually proving my point. While I do recognize your attempt at a "compliment," I also easily recognize your basic modus operandi on this board. So let's review what you said, shall we?

But, sadly, the ability of Weigantians to demonize and attack people for the SOLE reason of political disagreement is well documented... ~ Michale

So correct me if I'm wrong here, but I missed the part where paying me what you perceived as a "compliment" followed by a pronouncement wherein you assumed the role of victim and merely repeated your near-daily exercise of attacking the entire board in regular fashion claiming they "demonize and attack" people is anything that remotely resembles a "civil conversation." A "compliment" followed by an attack on the group doesn't exactly qualify as such in my assessment.

While I recognize you would have preferred that I agree with what you have -- in my opinion -- mischaracterized as "civil conversation," a fabrication on my part for the sake of agreement with you wouldn't exactly be factual. So... I gave you an honest answer: You are the poster on the board who most aptly matches what you're referring to as "civil conversation."

I calls them the way I sees them.

No need to ponder anything.. You have made it all perfectly clear..

If it was your wish to instigate an attack on the group and expect acquiescence without recrimination, then you are correct that you needn't ponder a thing; your mind was already decided.

If it takes agreeing with your insults toward the group in order to be considered "civilized," then I now and forever respectfully decline. :)

Jeezus, why are Democrats so hysterically afraid of going forward with the hearing???

They are going to lose one way or the other, but THIS way, they are simply turning off the patriotic American voter...

This comes after years of being told by Washington elites and the media that their way of life was obsolete, that the people J.D. Vance wrote so eloquently about in "Hillbilly Elegy" had no future. Then Trump shows up, tells them they have reason to hope, and jobs—their kind of jobs—follow. Is it any surprise those workers and their families are sticking with Trump?

This is why President Trump is kicking ass and taking names..

He has given REAL patriotic Americans REAL hope.. Not the haughty taughty elitist "hope" that Odumbo bragged about but never actually did it...

President Trump gives REAL tangible hope that people can SEE in their paychecks and FEEL in their gut and hearts..

THAT is the appeal of President Trump and no elitist snobbish Dumbocrat can EVER understand...

In part because Trump's job growth is different. President Trump campaigned in the Rust Belt and told men—in particular, blue-collar, non-college-degree-holding men—that their economic future could be brighter, too.

After years of talk about the benefits of globalism and new technology for white-collar Americans, Trump told the "forgotten Americans" they would be forgotten no more, and to a degree, he's kept that promise.

Making America Great again...

Nothing succeeds like success.. :D

Look at Trump's disapproval numbers, which haven't risen since his inauguration.

Once again, we have you biased opinion.....

On Labor Day 2017, the polls were dismal for President Trump -- according to Real Clear Politics, his average approval rating was 38.5 percent, and his disapproval rating on average was 56.5 —18 points under water. But after a year of Robert Mueller investigation headlines, porn-star payoffs and strange Twitter rants, Trump's numbers are…up: 42 percent approve, 54 percent disapprove. Not great numbers, but an improvement.

A year of virtually non-stop negative media attacks and self-inflicted political wounds, and the president is more popular? How does that happen? To quote Joe Biden from the 2008 campaign trail, "It all comes down to one three-letter word: 'Jobs.'"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-heres-one-reason-trumps-average-approval-rating-is-going-up/

And then we have THE FACTS....

:D

Don't worry, guy... If only for your chosen moniker, I still love ya.. :D