And I am duty bound to point out, using your own comment..

Oh, I really do like this "duty bound" term that you have stolen from JTC. You make so much more sense when you appropriate the words of more intelligent posters rather than using the uneducated repetitive drivel and fabricated bullshit that you usually spew. Perhaps since you claim that you're "duty bound" to point out someone else's comment, you won't mind in the least when someone else does it right back at you. After all, if you're dishing it out ad nauseam to others, you ought to be able to take it... fair is fair.

Ain't it a bitch when your own comment comes around and bites you on the ass? :D

In answer to your question to JTC: It is lost on no one on this board... with the possible exception of yourself... that you sure whine incessantly like a little "bitch" when it happens to you.

LL&P ;)

Please never stop the daily demonstrations and posts proving exactly how ignorant you are... not that anyone need worry that you would. :) *laughs*

And I am duty bound to point out, using your own comment..

“My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line, and kiss my ass.”

Ain't it a bitch when your own comment comes around and bites you on the ass? :D

Which has nothing to do with President Trump, Russia or the election and is therefore not relevant to anything..

According to a court filing, Patten’s Ukrainian client wanted to attend the Trump inauguration in January 2017, but the Inauguration Committee couldn’t accept money from foreign nationals because of Federal Election Commission rules.

To get around that restriction, Patten enlisted a U.S. citizen to serve as a “straw” buyer, according to the filing. That individual, who wasn’t named, bought four tickets for $50,000, after receiving a check for $50,000 from the consulting firm run by Patten and Konstantin Kilimnik, Manafort’s longtime fixer in Ukraine suspected of having ties to Russian intelligence. That firm, in turn, was reimbursed by a $50,000 wire from the Ukrainian oligarch’s Cypriot bank account, the filing says.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-31/patten-caused-foreign-money-to-be-paid-to-inaugural-committee

Follow the money... all the money... and it's obvious why this isn't likely to be ending any time in the near future and why hundreds of the Trump campaign's Kremlin associated allies are involved in illegal activity... both before and after the election.

Multiple sources reporting that Trump is behaving like a man "cornered."

Hint: He is cornered.:)

The right-wing lunatic fringe are outraged... outraged, I tell you... and are calling for the boycott of a new movie about Neil Armstrong where it is rumored that the United States flag placement on the moon is omitted.

In other news, half of those exact same morons believe that the moon landing was faked on a movie set and that you can tell because of the shadow from the fake flag on a wire, and the other half cheer wildly with glee each and every time Comrade Trump hunches a real American flag as if it was his grown daughter.

'Merica!

Never underestimate Sessions' vociferous hatred of weed. I think he might have been chased once by a bunch of stoners who thought that he was a Keebler Elf and would lead them to munchies.

The National Security angle is worrisome though, because it reminds me of the rhetoric that despots use when trying to suppress nearly anything. Using the same logic, for instance, cellphones might be labeled a 'national security threat' because they, too, can be identified as a major cause of car accidents.

Anyone interested in reading Mr. Patten's plea/cooperation agreement? There you go:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4807017/Plea-Agreement.pdf

Sam Patten, ex-Manafort associate, had plead guilty today to one count of violating FARA -- Foreign Agents Registration Act and has agreed to cooperate with OSC/prosecutors.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-31/manafort-associate-sam-patten-is-charged-with-fara-violation?srnd=premium

I'm duty-bound to point out sophistry when I see it, it's slightly more rewarding when you can wrap it around a blunt object like hypocrisy or unwieldly double standard.

LL&P

Hmmmmmm I seem to recall someone around here saying that Mueller had an imposed deadline of 1 Sep...

Now, gee.. I wonder who that could have been...

Once again, people.. Maybe you should take something for your HHPTDS and realize that I *DO* know what I am talking about.. :D

Bill Clinton...

The quintessential Dumbocrat.. :D

So??? Is "monkey this up" a code phrase???

I notice, however, that you've become fond of the word "niggler" today. Making a point?

Yes I am.. And I think yer a niggler enough to get it.. :D

translation: I didn't even look at your link.

I notice, however, that you've become fond of the word "niggler" today. Making a point?

And yet, you have applied the 'troll' label to me on several occasions...

So, obviously, you don't have a HUGE problem with applying a label to a man that wouldn't apply it to himself. :D

I get it. You want to apply the term "socialist" to every idea that comes from Democrats.

Only the ideas that are socialist ideas..

But, as I said.... It's VERY heartening that you realize the negative connotations of being a socialist..

That indicates to me that there IS hope for you.. :D

Just don't want to apply a label that the man wouldn't apply to himself. As for my opinion, see:

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/28/is-manafort-about-to-flip/#comment-125561

He's for single-payer, $15 p/h min wage and all the other socialist goodies..

I get it. You want to apply the term "socialist" to every idea that comes from Democrats. That tactic is so old that my great-grandmother slept with it.

GOOGLE??

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You have never heard that term before??

"Just a fly in the ointment, Hans. The monkey in the wrench. The pain in the ass."
John McClane, DIE HARD

"OH MY GODS!!!! JOHN MCLANE IS A FUCKING RACIST!!!!"

:D

Like I said, if you want to be a niggler about it, you can fine ALL SORTS of things to be offended by...

OR you can follow Sarek of Vulcan's wisdom..

"There can be no offense where none is taken"

:D I'm just sayin'....

SHocked???

Of course not..

It doesn't surprise me ONE BIT that a Dem candidate got dark money laundered thru a Democrat organization..

What DOES continue to shock me is that ya'all DON'T have any problem with it...

And Gillum isn't a socialist (doesn't call himself one - see CW's column from yesterday). He gets that moniker because he supports the ACA, and would consider a well-crafted Universal Health Care plan.

He's for single-payer, $15 p/h min wage and all the other socialist goodies..

He's a socialist..

But it IS telling how you would try to deny he is a socialist.. You recognize how bad a socialist is for this country...

Barely out of the gate, and the GOP is already playing word games.

Yea.. Dumbocrats would NEVER stoop to (Let's call Global Warming 'Climate Change' because we look like IDIOTS saying 'GLOBAL WARMING' when there is record snow and cold) playing 'word games' eh?? :D

Google the term "monkey this up" and see if it appears anywhere else. (music plays) No? That's because someone fed DeSantis the line, knowing that it would be heard by the base as the dog whistle it is.

Then they always give that wide-eyed look of innocence, "Moi?"

GOP hypocrisy knows no limit.

And Gillum isn't a socialist (doesn't call himself one - see CW's column from yesterday). He gets that moniker because he supports the ACA, and would consider a well-crafted Universal Health Care plan.

Barely out of the gate, and the GOP is already playing word games. Better than trying to run on Trump's reputation, I guess.

The contrast between the Left and the Right could NOT be clearer.....

This morning, Florida GOP Congressman Carlos Curbelo said DeSantis should apologize for his ‘monkey’ remark, which Curbelo called “offensive to a lot of people.” Governor Rick Scott refused to defend DeSantis’ remarks, and wouldn’t say if he voted for the Congressman to replace him.

Curbelo can go frak himself...

DeSantis' remark is only "racist" and "offensive" to racists and those who LOOK for things to be offended by...

If you want to be a niggler and strike the word "monkey" from the dictionary because you find it racist, have at it...

Otherwise, you COULD lighten up and not seek offense where none is intended...

This morning, Florida GOP Congressman Carlos Curbelo said DeSantis should apologize for his ‘monkey’ remark, which Curbelo called “offensive to a lot of people.” Governor Rick Scott refused to defend DeSantis’ remarks, and wouldn’t say if he voted for the Congressman to replace him.

This is not the first time Gillum's PAC has accepted money from a dark money group. Earlier this year, Forward Florida accepted at least $266,000 from nonprofit Collective Future, the 501(c)(4) arm of the group that served as Gillum's largest contributor in 2018. The Washington, D.C.-based group does have an associated PAC and super PAC that are required to disclose its donors, but Collective Future is not required to do so.

More Dark Money....

Once again, you cherry pick the article that you think serves your agenda and ignore the FACTS..

Gollum is on record as saying he will refuse dark money..

NOW he is awash in Dark Money...

I thought Democrats didn't lie??

Well, maybe SOCIALIST Democrats lie, eh? :D

The DGA has raised millions of dollars in dark and corporate money over the years, money that is now being injected into Gillum's PAC. Dark money refers to funds given to nonprofit organizations or PACs that can receive unlimited donations from corporations, individuals and unions, and the donor is not disclose

Dark money is dark money...

Does it matter that it's laundered thru the DGA???

Once again.. You have fake news..

I have facts.. :D

But I still respect you in the morning.. :D

That right there will prevent him from winning the election...

For anyone who ignored the link, the "Dark Money Group" referred to is the Democratic Governors' Association.

It's election season! Let the Fake News onslaught begin.

Unless of course, he actually GETS CU money.. Then he'll be bought and paid for..

Grrrr...

WOULDN'T be held accountable to Citizens United money...

Gollum says he would be held accountable to Citizens United money..

Unless of course, he actually GETS CU money.. Then he'll be bought and paid for..

Another perfectly example of Democrats SAYING one thing, but DOING the exact opposite..

:^/

Pretty shabby for the self confessed most popular President since Lincoln's amazing polling averages (har har).

And yet, Odumbo's poll numbers were not much higher and often LOWER than President Trump's poll numbers..

THAT is the fact that TOTALLY demolishes ANY claims you make...

538 Average???

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No, seriously.. Stop it..

538 Average???

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Yer killing me!!!! Stop!!!

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Exactly, one poll isn't significant.

538 Average:
Approve: 40.7%
Disapprove: 54.3%

Real Clear Average:
Approve: 42.8%
Disapprove: 53.9%

Pretty shabby for the self confessed most popular President since Lincoln's amazing polling averages (har har).

2009 (Obama): 26.46%
2013 (Obama): 32.39%
2017 (Idiot): 21.83%

Even with the passing of a tax cut specifically for corporations (Idiot) couldn't surpass two of the last annual returns in the last 10 years.

Right.. ONE poll isn't significant..

Yet, then you go on and spew how "significant" that ONE POLL is.. :D

I am guessing the irony is lost on you, eh?

Face the facts neal....

ALL Polls are significant to you..

As long as they say what you want to hear...

Right.. ONE poll isn't significant..

Yet, then you go on and spew how "significant" that ONE POLL is.. :D

I am guessing the irony is lost on you, eh?

Face the facts neal....

ALL Polls are significant to you..

As long as they say what you want to hear...

American was never that great
-Democrat Party

Just ask all the America Haters in the world..

But I guess if a foreigner can play an AMERICAN hero, then there shouldn't be any reason why Scar-Jo can't play a transgender, eh?? :^/

Hypocrites...

Treasonous Trump:
- Approve: 36%
- Disapprove: 60%
- Difference: -24% (read it and weep)

Mueller's Investigation:
- Approve: 63%
- Disapprove: 29%

Impeachment:
- For: 49%
- Against: 46%

For the record, I'm against impeachment - I want the American people to throw this bum out on his ass in 2020. Impeachment will make him a martyr for 25% of the country, and he has divided us enough already. Only a humiliation at the polls will clear the country of the stink of this horse's ass.

Source:

https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1200a1TrumpandtheMuellerInvestigation.pdf

Bummer...

But, since you went there.. :D

The damage being done to the markets by the idiot at 1600 Penn is due to his asinine trade war,

On Election Day 2016, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 18,332.43. On August 29, it closed at 26,124.57. That is an increase of some 40 percent. Other indices show similar gains. Growth in GDP went from 1.5 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in 2017 and, helped by the excellent 4.2 percent number in the second quarter, is forecast for around 3 percent in 2018.

Yer like the loony mutjob on the street corner soapbox, hair all askew and buck-ass nekkid, holding a sign, REPENT!!! REPENT!!!! The End Is Near!!! and people just walk by you, laugh and hurry on, not making eye contact...

"Yes, yes.. Thank you for that information... We will ponder that... Thank you.."
-Philoctetes, HERCULES

:D

Of course, reality doesn't bear that out:

Pearl Harbor: Market dropped 7.6% over a couple of days then bounced back within six months.

JFK Assassination: Market dropped 2.8% on the following day, then bounced back within days.

Nixon/Watergate: Markets were already in a multi-year decline due to economic circumstances, little impact from political situation observed.

Clinton Impeachment: Look for yourself

http://ritholtz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/news.png

The damage being done to the markets by the idiot at 1600 Penn is due to his asinine trade war, the impact of the dumb deal he did with Mexico (particularly on the auto supply chain), the instability he brings by being a general clown, and the hangover that we'll get from the sugar rush of the tax cuts.

Talking of the tax cuts, we say large cap revenues grow only 0.2%, but after tax profits surge 6.2% - great for anybody with at least $250K in the markets, but the amount being fed into the typical middle class American is minimal at best.

Kurt Vonnegut once called cigarette smoking the only socially acceptable form of suicide.

But I would wager you know better than that... being a bartender and all. :)

“Slaughterhouse-5 Vonnegut or Cat's Cradle Vonnegut?”
-Dean Winchester

:D

People have DIED due to legalization...

I haven't heard about that. Do you have a cite?

Nobody died from "legalization." They may have died from smoking or taking any number of different types of drugs... legal or illegal... but nobody died from "legalization."

Lots of people abuse lots of drugs as well as alcohol, but no one forces them to abuse it, and people will die from that abuse... even people who don't smoke or use themselves. Cannabis is no different than any other drug, including tobacco; time to stop treating it that way. :)

WHO SAID IT?

Every year tobacco kills more Americans than did World War II — more than AIDS, cocaine, heroin, alcohol, vehicular accidents, homicide and suicide combined.

By my math, that's three birds with one stone(r).

"Three Little Birds" ~ Bob Marley

The way things are trending in Trumpland, he's better off taking a few Aspirin and going for a lie down under a tree, while his brain trust flail away at a useless cause.

Lie up, "lie down"... he really is quite the liar.

Oh well, back to my Tincture, leave it alone on the stove for a minute unattended, you can kiss a kilo of Kush cookies goodbye.

Wi run tings, tings nuh run wi! ;)

Why, yes.. Yes I do... :D

Which one?? There have been so many... :D

Increased homelessness..
snopes.com/uploads/2018/02/2007-2017-PIT-Counts-by-State.xlsx

The number of drivers involved in fatal crashes in Colorado who tested positive for marijuana has risen sharply each year since 2013, more than doubling in that time, federal and state data show. A Denver Post analysis of the data and coroner reports provides the most comprehensive look yet into whether roads in the state have become more dangerous since the drug’s legalization.

The trends coincide with the legalization of recreational marijuana in Colorado that began with adult use in late 2012, followed by sales in 2014. Colorado transportation and public safety officials, however, say the rising number of pot-related traffic fatalities cannot be definitively linked to legalized marijuana.
denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

Now, ya'all can argue that there is NO DOWN SIDE to legalization, that EVERYTHING about legal pot is rainbows and unicorns..

But, then ya'all are doing EXACTLY what you accuse the Trump administration of doing..

IGNORING the facts in pursuit of propaganda...

Ya'all are supposed to be BETTER than that, eh??

I haven't heard about that. Do you have a cite?

Obviously, Trump will make dog's breakfast out of the whole proceeding, where an obvious walk-off win is thrown at his feet. In one deft move, Trump could stymy the left and adopt a national policy for weed, walking away with a popular policy in one hand, and a bag of wall cash in the form of a federal grass-tax in the other. Not only that, but knowing how Sessions has championed the anti-reefer right-wing rhetoric for the last 1000 years, his head would pause to announce his resignation then promptly explode.

By my math, that three birds with one stone(r).

But what are the odds Trump will spot an obvious coup, it's clear he's oblivious to the entire debate over pot decriminalization. The way things are trending in Trumpland, he's better off taking a few Aspirin and going for a lie down under a tree, while his brain trust flail away at a useless cause.

Oh well, back to my Tincture, leave it alone on the stove for a minute unattended, you can kiss a kilo of Kush cookies goodbye.

LL&P

Are you trying to claim that there ARE no negative consequences of marijuana legalization and usage??

Because, if you are, then it seems to me that it is YOU who is waging a propaganda war..

People have DIED due to legalization...

Is that sufficient to criminalize it again?? I don't know.

But to pretend it's not happening puts you in the same basket as what you accuse President Trump of doing..

Think about it...

Pathological lying and just making things up is the specialty of this White House and the BLOTUS.

If you knew the news wasn't good news and the walls were closing in, what would be left except to go full Orwell and Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda?

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