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]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125139 Kick Fri, 24 Aug 2018 05:02:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125139 CW: <i>Yeah, this is another bizarre bit of attempted spin I didn't address in the article. The whole "DOJ won't indict a sitting president" does not, in fact, mean that anyone's "above the law" forever. All it says is that DOJ will wait until either (a) the president is impeached, convicted, and removed from office, or (b) the president's term is up before actually indicting him of any crime. But some bizarrely see it as a get-out-of-jail-free card. It's not. All it says is that the political process (impeachment and trial in Senate) has to happen first, that's all. </i> Yes, exactly this! And although I know I sound like a broken record sometimes, the State of New York has no such rule on its "books," and...………….…… drumroll ……………………………………………………………...………………. <blockquote>FUN FACT: The sitting President of the United States could literally be indicted by the State of New York at any time. If he has done nothing wrong, then he's got nothing to worry about. </blockquote> Pardon me? Nope. Not in New York! Poor Donald and his spawn and his ilk: No pardon for you in New York! :) CW: Yeah, this is another bizarre bit of attempted spin I didn't address in the article. The whole "DOJ won't indict a sitting president" does not, in fact, mean that anyone's "above the law" forever. All it says is that DOJ will wait until either (a) the president is impeached, convicted, and removed from office, or (b) the president's term is up before actually indicting him of any crime. But some bizarrely see it as a get-out-of-jail-free card. It's not. All it says is that the political process (impeachment and trial in Senate) has to happen first, that's all.

Yes, exactly this! And although I know I sound like a broken record sometimes, the State of New York has no such rule on its "books," and...………….…… drumroll
……………………………………………………………...……………….

FUN FACT: The sitting President of the United States could literally be indicted by the State of New York at any time. If he has done nothing wrong, then he's got nothing to worry about.

Pardon me? Nope. Not in New York! Poor Donald and his spawn and his ilk: No pardon for you in New York! :)

]]> By: Balthasar http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125124 Balthasar Thu, 23 Aug 2018 23:57:41 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125124 JTC: <i>The trophy is a bronzed Pork Pie sat atop a Pinocchio styled nose. Quite handsome really.</i> Really? Because every mental image I can conjure of that looks like an Adult Film Award. Michale [30]: <i>I maneuvered you to use the word INNOCENT with regards to Manafort and those remaining 10 charges..</i> That's what Trumpers have been doing since the election: playing word games, biding their time while the wrecking crew they've installed does its work. I'm onto them. What they don't want us to discuss is the vandalism itself. Today it was the UN Human Rights Commission. Who does that benefit? Russia, for one, who'd really like to wrap up the Syrian war without pesky UN guys underfoot objecting everytime Assad tosses a barrel bomb at a population center. JTC: The trophy is a bronzed Pork Pie sat atop a Pinocchio styled nose. Quite handsome really.

Really? Because every mental image I can conjure of that looks like an Adult Film Award.

Michale [30]: I maneuvered you to use the word INNOCENT with regards to Manafort and those remaining 10 charges..

That's what Trumpers have been doing since the election: playing word games, biding their time while the wrecking crew they've installed does its work. I'm onto them.

What they don't want us to discuss is the vandalism itself. Today it was the UN Human Rights Commission. Who does that benefit? Russia, for one, who'd really like to wrap up the Syrian war without pesky UN guys underfoot objecting everytime Assad tosses a barrel bomb at a population center.

]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125123 Chris Weigant Thu, 23 Aug 2018 23:26:51 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125123 OK, new column is up, enjoy! -CW OK, new column is up, enjoy!

-CW

]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125122 Chris Weigant Thu, 23 Aug 2018 23:21:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125122 LeaningBlue [1,2] - Me either, so I just went ahead and fixed it for you... nypoet [22] - Nice Zaphod Beeblebrox quote... heh. Kick [5] - Yeah, that certainly argues for Mueller to refile the 10 charges. Maybe the next jury will confront the evidence that 11 of the first jury did... Michale [9] - Touché. Should've corrected that one, but didn't, which is on me. [10] - Hey, whatever helps you and Hannity sleep at night, bro. Jury: 12-0 on 8 counts 11-1 on 10 counts. If you think that's a wonderful legal victory, then so be it. It's like (to use a Trumpian example) arguing Al Capone wasn't guilty of anything but tax evasion.... [11] - Yep, you were wrong yesterday. But I was too nice to point it out. Heh. But at least we can both admit lapses when they happen, right? :-) Kick [12] - Yeah, this is another bizarre bit of attempted spin I didn't address in the article. The whole "DOJ won't indict a sitting president" does not, in fact, mean that anyone's "above the law" forever. All it says is that DOJ will wait until either (a) the president is impeached, convicted, and removed from office, or (b) the president's term is up before actually indicting him of any crime. But some bizarrely see it as a get-out-of-jail-free card. It's not. All it says is that the political process (impeachement and trial in Senate) has to happen first, that's all. Michale [14] - Technically, it would be: "Paul Manafort, at the present time, is legally innocent of the 10 charges, but he is still in legal jeopardy over them, because he was not acquitted or declared innocent by a jury." The key phrase? "at the present time." However, since we're talking about facts, here's one for you: Paul Manafort is GUILTY of 8 serious felonies. He is facing up to 80 years in prison because of this. Don't forget that part, in protesting his innocence too much... It's like crowing about Hannibal the Cannibal not being convicted of using proper table manners, in other words. [15] - Boy, you're really having fun beating this dead horse, aren't you? The fact you refuse to face: Manafort HAS NOT been found innocent of the 10 charges by a jury. That is a fact. You refuse to face it, in your continued efforts at spin. [17] - Now you're just getting silly. Look up the phrase "presumption of innocence" -- Kick didn't coin it on the fly, here. Don Harris [18] - "aboot"? Are you posting north of the border? Heh. Couldn't resist. Michale [19] - Let's see... has Michale ever pronounced guilt of a member of the opposing party before a jury has had its say? Hmmm... there must be an example or two here... (stands back as Fibber McGee's closet cascades endlessly and noisily...). Oh, that's right! You do it ALL THE TIME, pal! Nice try at taking the high road, though. Points for effort... James T Canuck [26] - It's all about the spin, and the Trumplestiltskins don't have much ammo in the current battle. But I do like your larger point, and applaud it wholeheartedly. Remember when the Republicans used to pretend they cared about personal responsibility? Ahh... those were the days.... Michale [28] - Since your google seems to be broken, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence Once again, this phrase was NOT coined here today... OK, enough of this. Heads-up: Today's column is almost up... -CW LeaningBlue [1,2] -

Me either, so I just went ahead and fixed it for you...

nypoet [22] -

Nice Zaphod Beeblebrox quote... heh.

Kick [5] -

Yeah, that certainly argues for Mueller to refile the 10 charges. Maybe the next jury will confront the evidence that 11 of the first jury did...

Michale [9] -

Touché. Should've corrected that one, but didn't, which is on me.

[10] -

Hey, whatever helps you and Hannity sleep at night, bro.

Jury:
12-0 on 8 counts
11-1 on 10 counts.

If you think that's a wonderful legal victory, then so be it. It's like (to use a Trumpian example) arguing Al Capone wasn't guilty of anything but tax evasion....

[11] -

Yep, you were wrong yesterday. But I was too nice to point it out. Heh. But at least we can both admit lapses when they happen, right?

:-)

Kick [12] -

Yeah, this is another bizarre bit of attempted spin I didn't address in the article. The whole "DOJ won't indict a sitting president" does not, in fact, mean that anyone's "above the law" forever. All it says is that DOJ will wait until either (a) the president is impeached, convicted, and removed from office, or (b) the president's term is up before actually indicting him of any crime. But some bizarrely see it as a get-out-of-jail-free card. It's not. All it says is that the political process (impeachement and trial in Senate) has to happen first, that's all.

Michale [14] -

Technically, it would be: "Paul Manafort, at the present time, is legally innocent of the 10 charges, but he is still in legal jeopardy over them, because he was not acquitted or declared innocent by a jury." The key phrase? "at the present time."

However, since we're talking about facts, here's one for you: Paul Manafort is GUILTY of 8 serious felonies. He is facing up to 80 years in prison because of this.

Don't forget that part, in protesting his innocence too much...

It's like crowing about Hannibal the Cannibal not being convicted of using proper table manners, in other words.

[15] -

Boy, you're really having fun beating this dead horse, aren't you?

The fact you refuse to face: Manafort HAS NOT been found innocent of the 10 charges by a jury.

That is a fact. You refuse to face it, in your continued efforts at spin.

[17] -

Now you're just getting silly. Look up the phrase "presumption of innocence" -- Kick didn't coin it on the fly, here.

Don Harris [18] -

"aboot"? Are you posting north of the border?

Heh. Couldn't resist.

Michale [19] -

Let's see... has Michale ever pronounced guilt of a member of the opposing party before a jury has had its say? Hmmm... there must be an example or two here... (stands back as Fibber McGee's closet cascades endlessly and noisily...).

Oh, that's right! You do it ALL THE TIME, pal!

Nice try at taking the high road, though. Points for effort...

James T Canuck [26] -

It's all about the spin, and the Trumplestiltskins don't have much ammo in the current battle.

But I do like your larger point, and applaud it wholeheartedly. Remember when the Republicans used to pretend they cared about personal responsibility? Ahh... those were the days....

Michale [28] -

Since your google seems to be broken, here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

Once again, this phrase was NOT coined here today...

OK, enough of this. Heads-up: Today's column is almost up...

-CW

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125121 ListenWhenYouHear Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:59:37 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125121 Hey CW, Did my comment get snagged? Hey CW,

Did my comment get snagged?

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125118 James T Canuck Thu, 23 Aug 2018 21:20:03 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125118 Giuliani when asked about a Trump impeachment replied... "There's no reason. He didn't collude with the Russians, he didn't obstruct justice. Everything [Michael] Cohen says has been disproved. You'd only impeach him for political reasons. And the American people would revolt against that." Can you count the bald-faced lies in this one statement? I found six. Giuliani is nipping at Trump's heels for most lies told in a calendar year. The trophy is a bronzed Pork Pie sat atop a Pinocchio styled nose. Quite handsome really. Wouldn't look out of place on either mans mantle. LL&P Giuliani when asked about a Trump impeachment replied...

"There's no reason. He didn't collude with the Russians, he didn't obstruct justice. Everything [Michael] Cohen says has been disproved. You'd only impeach him for political reasons. And the American people would revolt against that."

Can you count the bald-faced lies in this one statement?

I found six. Giuliani is nipping at Trump's heels for most lies told in a calendar year. The trophy is a bronzed Pork Pie sat atop a Pinocchio styled nose. Quite handsome really. Wouldn't look out of place on either mans mantle.

LL&P

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125117 James T Canuck Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:59:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125117 [32] Without a doubt Manafort lost (bigly) and will again. Also, as far as I can tell, there is no provision that ensures 'a right to a speedy re-trial'...Manafort has to realize, Trump's blatant carrot/pardon dangling notwithstanding, that his benefactor is easily outmaneuvered where his pardon power is concerned. Say what you want about Cohen, but he knows how Trump's mind works, hell, he spent ten years keeping the hamster wheel in his head turning. Cohen took the best deal he could rely on to stick, like a true to form henchman, he understood that Trump was throwing him to the slag-pile pretty early on. Also, when you think about it, Cohen has been taking out Trump's trash for years, to be shunned just when some of your loyalty should be coming home to roost, has to leave a bitter taste. Trump isn't doing himself any favours by moaning in public about loyalty, when he himself has shown none to his former operatives. It's very short sighted to think others 'in the know' about Trump's slippery dealings haven't taken serious note of how the Cohen/Manafort scenario has played out...it could be, Manafort will spend two years behind bars before Trump even dare show clemency. That can't be comforting for him, given his age and what must now be dawning on him as to Trump's uni-directional loyalty beliefs. LL&P [32] Without a doubt Manafort lost (bigly) and will again. Also, as far as I can tell, there is no provision that ensures 'a right to a speedy re-trial'...Manafort has to realize, Trump's blatant carrot/pardon dangling notwithstanding, that his benefactor is easily outmaneuvered where his pardon power is concerned. Say what you want about Cohen, but he knows how Trump's mind works, hell, he spent ten years keeping the hamster wheel in his head turning. Cohen took the best deal he could rely on to stick, like a true to form henchman, he understood that Trump was throwing him to the slag-pile pretty early on. Also, when you think about it, Cohen has been taking out Trump's trash for years, to be shunned just when some of your loyalty should be coming home to roost, has to leave a bitter taste. Trump isn't doing himself any favours by moaning in public about loyalty, when he himself has shown none to his former operatives. It's very short sighted to think others 'in the know' about Trump's slippery dealings haven't taken serious note of how the Cohen/Manafort scenario has played out...it could be, Manafort will spend two years behind bars before Trump even dare show clemency. That can't be comforting for him, given his age and what must now be dawning on him as to Trump's uni-directional loyalty beliefs.

LL&P

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125116 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 15:30:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125116 <i>But hay... I'll play your ignorant little semantic game.. </i> You needn't "play" at being ignorant if you keep insisting that a basic concept of law is a "semantic game." Presumption of innocence in a court of law and claiming that someone is in fact innocent are two wholly different things. I would think that a "law enforcement officer" would understand the concept, but here we are... again. <i>Manafort is presumed INNOCENT of all of those 10 charges.. </i> In a court of law. Manafort knows the facts regarding his guilt or innocence notwithstanding the presumption of innocence he enjoys in the courtroom. Nothing that goes on in the courtroom changes the "facts." <i>You STILL lose.. :D </i> I'd say Manafort lost... just to state the obvious. :) But hay... I'll play your ignorant little semantic game..

You needn't "play" at being ignorant if you keep insisting that a basic concept of law is a "semantic game." Presumption of innocence in a court of law and claiming that someone is in fact innocent are two wholly different things. I would think that a "law enforcement officer" would understand the concept, but here we are... again.

Manafort is presumed INNOCENT of all of those 10 charges..

In a court of law. Manafort knows the facts regarding his guilt or innocence notwithstanding the presumption of innocence he enjoys in the courtroom. Nothing that goes on in the courtroom changes the "facts."

You STILL lose.. :D

I'd say Manafort lost... just to state the obvious. :)

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125115 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:43:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125115 James T Canuck 26 <i>It's now considered laudable to not co-operate with law enforcement, and somehow reprehensible to own your (or at least a portion of) wrong-doings and throw yourself at the mercy of the court. In Trump's seedy little mind it might be, but not anywhere else. </i> Exactly right, JTC. The Moron-In-Chief and his bullshit is NOT normal. It takes a special kind of stupid to keep changing your story and moving the goalposts and then whine about "flipping" and how "it almost ought to be illegal." The so-called "law and order" candidate wouldn't recognize the rule of law if it lived on his face. Poor Donald. He simply can't get over the fact that Jeff Sessions recused himself... like he had a choice. Moron. <i>It's disgusting and immoral to peddle a mafia-like mentality as virtuous, and my only hope is Trump is ignored as some kind of moral beacon. </i> It's comical to watch Trump reveal himself for exactly who he is... Mafia Don. That is, it would be comical if it wasn't so pathetic. Trump too shall pass. :) James T Canuck
26

It's now considered laudable to not co-operate with law enforcement, and somehow reprehensible to own your (or at least a portion of) wrong-doings and throw yourself at the mercy of the court. In Trump's seedy little mind it might be, but not anywhere else.

Exactly right, JTC. The Moron-In-Chief and his bullshit is NOT normal. It takes a special kind of stupid to keep changing your story and moving the goalposts and then whine about "flipping" and how "it almost ought to be illegal." The so-called "law and order" candidate wouldn't recognize the rule of law if it lived on his face. Poor Donald. He simply can't get over the fact that Jeff Sessions recused himself... like he had a choice. Moron.

It's disgusting and immoral to peddle a mafia-like mentality as virtuous, and my only hope is Trump is ignored as some kind of moral beacon.

It's comical to watch Trump reveal himself for exactly who he is... Mafia Don. That is, it would be comical if it wasn't so pathetic. Trump too shall pass. :)

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125114 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:39:07 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125114 See how you just got played, Vicky???> I maneuvered you to use the word INNOCENT with regards to Manafort and those remaining 10 charges.. BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Like shootin' fish in a barrel.. :D See how you just got played, Vicky???>

I maneuvered you to use the word INNOCENT with regards to Manafort and those remaining 10 charges..

BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Like shootin' fish in a barrel.. :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125113 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:36:48 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125113 But hay... I'll play your ignorant little semantic game.. Manafort is presumed INNOCENT of all of those 10 charges.. You STILL lose.. :D But hay... I'll play your ignorant little semantic game..

Manafort is presumed INNOCENT of all of those 10 charges..

You STILL lose.. :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125112 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:27:53 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125112 <I>A so-called "law enforcement officer" who whines incessantly that someone is adding words to the basic legal concept of "presumption of innocence." Tells you everything you need to know.</I> Says the ignorant Party slave who ADDS words to make a lame argument.. :D <I>lying and just making shit up never stops.</I> Yea.. That's yer claim.. And, as usual, you NEVER have any facts to back it up.. :D A so-called "law enforcement officer" who whines incessantly that someone is adding words to the basic legal concept of "presumption of innocence." Tells you everything you need to know.

Says the ignorant Party slave who ADDS words to make a lame argument.. :D

lying and just making shit up never stops.

Yea.. That's yer claim..

And, as usual, you NEVER have any facts to back it up.. :D

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125111 James T Canuck Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:16:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125111 [26] Kick...you have to remember, Michale, like his 'Whiskey priest' president, isn't concerned whatsoever about the rule of law. So long as they can preen under the sun of decent economy, decency be damned. That's all history will say about Trump...'they plugged their noses and held hands with the devil, then it all tanked and they awoke from their dream to a society in ruins" LL&P [26] Kick...you have to remember, Michale, like his 'Whiskey priest' president, isn't concerned whatsoever about the rule of law. So long as they can preen under the sun of decent economy, decency be damned. That's all history will say about Trump...'they plugged their noses and held hands with the devil, then it all tanked and they awoke from their dream to a society in ruins"

LL&P

]]> By: James T Canuck http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125110 James T Canuck Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:06:15 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125110 Manafort was convicted on 8 of 18 charges, the ten remaining charges were undecided as the jury failed to reach a unanimous decision. End of. I fail to see the argument here, other than the usual one, which is always about the saying and not the said. That's all America seems to have left in its political discourse these days, sniping and fratching over wording or phrasing...if I didn't know better (or have some experience in) it sounds like the kind of thing you hear in divorce court when deciding the disposition of the family dog. I'd be more concerned about the sewage flowing from Trump this day. It's now considered laudable to not co-operate with law enforcement, and somehow reprehensible to own your (or at least a portion of) wrong-doings and throw yourself at the mercy of the court. In Trump's seedy little mind it might be, but not anywhere else. I happen to take great pride in the fact that I have successfully handed down my moral compass to my kids, as my dad did to me. What generation of vipers is Trump suggesting people create by insisting you're a better person if you never admit your mistakes? It's disgusting and immoral to peddle a mafia-like mentality as virtuous, and my only hope is Trump is ignored as some kind of moral beacon. LL&P Manafort was convicted on 8 of 18 charges, the ten remaining charges were undecided as the jury failed to reach a unanimous decision. End of. I fail to see the argument here, other than the usual one, which is always about the saying and not the said. That's all America seems to have left in its political discourse these days, sniping and fratching over wording or phrasing...if I didn't know better (or have some experience in) it sounds like the kind of thing you hear in divorce court when deciding the disposition of the family dog. I'd be more concerned about the sewage flowing from Trump this day. It's now considered laudable to not co-operate with law enforcement, and somehow reprehensible to own your (or at least a portion of) wrong-doings and throw yourself at the mercy of the court. In Trump's seedy little mind it might be, but not anywhere else. I happen to take great pride in the fact that I have successfully handed down my moral compass to my kids, as my dad did to me. What generation of vipers is Trump suggesting people create by insisting you're a better person if you never admit your mistakes?

It's disgusting and immoral to peddle a mafia-like mentality as virtuous, and my only hope is Trump is ignored as some kind of moral beacon.

LL&P

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125109 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 13:53:31 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125109 A so-called "law enforcement officer" who whines incessantly that someone is adding words to the basic legal concept of "presumption of innocence." Tells you everything you need to know. <i>Unlike your state which is #50 in the country for personal and economic freedom.. </i> Liar :) lying and just making shit up never stops. A so-called "law enforcement officer" who whines incessantly that someone is adding words to the basic legal concept of "presumption of innocence." Tells you everything you need to know.

Unlike your state which is #50 in the country for personal and economic freedom..

Liar :)

lying and just making shit up never stops.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125108 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 13:32:31 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125108 <I>INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW Funny.. I don't see the word "presumption" in there at all... Now you're just embarrassing yourself. "Please proceed, Governor." :)</I> Says the person who is adding words to make a bullshit argument that only a Left Wing moron would find valid.. :D <B>"INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW"</B> No "presumption" mentioned in there whatsoever... You lose.. AGAIN.. :D <I>Obviously... since you live in Shithole. :)</I> That would be the "shithole" that is the NUMBER ONE STATE in the country to live in for personal and economic freedom.. Unlike your state which is #50 in the country for personal and economic freedom.. Howz life in yer shithole, Vicky?? :D INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW
Funny.. I don't see the word "presumption" in there at all...

Now you're just embarrassing yourself. "Please proceed, Governor." :)

Says the person who is adding words to make a bullshit argument that only a Left Wing moron would find valid.. :D

"INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW"

No "presumption" mentioned in there whatsoever...

You lose.. AGAIN.. :D
Obviously... since you live in Shithole. :)

That would be the "shithole" that is the NUMBER ONE STATE in the country to live in for personal and economic freedom..

Unlike your state which is #50 in the country for personal and economic freedom..

Howz life in yer shithole, Vicky?? :D

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125107 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 13:14:39 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125107 Michale 19 <i>In your world, ACCUSATION = GUILTY </i> Your made up bullshit proves only that you will lie. <i>But *ONLY* when that person has a -R after their name or otherwise further your Democrat Party agenda... </i> This tired shit of yours proves your dearth of ideas and that you will lie. <i>We don't live in your world, Vickie... :D </i> Obviously... since you live in Shithole. :) Michale
19

In your world, ACCUSATION = GUILTY

Your made up bullshit proves only that you will lie.

But *ONLY* when that person has a -R after their name or otherwise further your Democrat Party agenda...

This tired shit of yours proves your dearth of ideas and that you will lie.

We don't live in your world, Vickie... :D

Obviously... since you live in Shithole. :)

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125106 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 13:06:18 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125106 Michale 17 <i>Really?? </i> Yes, <b>really</b>. That is the definition of "presumption of innocence." I have never met a so-called "law enforcement officer" who didn't understand the basics of law. <i>INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW Funny.. I don't see the word "presumption" in there at all... </i> Now you're just embarrassing yourself. "Please proceed, Governor." :) Michale
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Really??

Yes, really. That is the definition of "presumption of innocence." I have never met a so-called "law enforcement officer" who didn't understand the basics of law.

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW
Funny.. I don't see the word "presumption" in there at all...

Now you're just embarrassing yourself. "Please proceed, Governor." :)

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125105 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 13:01:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125105 <I>Why are you letting both of the artificially created sides continue to get away with these lies election after election? </I> OH!!!! OH!!! I KNOW!!!! PICK ME!!! PICK ME!!!! Because it's easier to just be a Party slave rather than buck the trend and actually DO SOME GOOD for this country... That's why I am a Trump supporter... President Trump is the first President since Saint Reagan who sticks it to BOTH Partys and simply does what is best for the country... Why are you letting both of the artificially created sides continue to get away with these lies election after election?

OH!!!! OH!!! I KNOW!!!! PICK ME!!! PICK ME!!!!

Because it's easier to just be a Party slave rather than buck the trend and actually DO SOME GOOD for this country...

That's why I am a Trump supporter...

President Trump is the first President since Saint Reagan who sticks it to BOTH Partys and simply does what is best for the country...

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125103 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:43:36 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125103 Victoria, See, here is your problem.. In your world, ACCUSATION = GUILTY But *ONLY* when that person has a -R after their name or otherwise further your Democrat Party agenda... We don't live in your world, Vickie... :D Victoria,

See, here is your problem..

In your world, ACCUSATION = GUILTY

But *ONLY* when that person has a -R after their name or otherwise further your Democrat Party agenda...

We don't live in your world, Vickie... :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125101 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:34:07 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125101 <I>Yes. That's called "presumption of innocence."</I> Really?? <B>INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW</B> Funny.. I don't see the word "presumption" in there at all... Ahhhh I get it.. You got silly-slapped on the FACTS so you are adding words to attempt a lame argument.. I guess if you can ADD words, you can make up any lame argument you want.. :D But when all yer silly Party Slave BS is said and done, the facts remain... 1. An American is INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty in a court of law... 2. Paul Manafort was NOT proven guilty in a court of law over those 10 charges.. 3. Paul Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges.. These are the facts and only a Party slave dullard would argue them.. And I honestly wouldn't have taken you for a dullard.. :D Yes. That's called "presumption of innocence."

Really??

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW

Funny.. I don't see the word "presumption" in there at all...

Ahhhh I get it.. You got silly-slapped on the FACTS so you are adding words to attempt a lame argument..

I guess if you can ADD words, you can make up any lame argument you want.. :D

But when all yer silly Party Slave BS is said and done, the facts remain...

1. An American is INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty in a court of law...

2. Paul Manafort was NOT proven guilty in a court of law over those 10 charges..

3. Paul Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges..

These are the facts and only a Party slave dullard would argue them..

And I honestly wouldn't have taken you for a dullard.. :D

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125100 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:19:55 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125100 Michale 14 <i>INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW... </i> Yes. That's called "<b>presumption</b> of innocence." Do you need it explained to you that that a presumption and a "fact" are two different things? Michale
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INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW...

Yes. That's called "presumption of innocence."

Do you need it explained to you that that a presumption and a "fact" are two different things?

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125099 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 11:56:09 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125099 <I>No, sir. <I> Aww, how sweet.. You call me 'sir'... Good for you.. :D <I>The fact that 11 jurors chose to find him guilty while 1 juror chose to acquit him of those 10 charges is NOT the equivalent of whether or not Paul Manafort committed the crimes.</I> It doesn't say <B>INNOCENT UNTIL *ALMOST* PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW</B> It says: <B>INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW</B> Has Paul Manafort been PROVEN guilty in a court of law on those 10 charges?? No, he has not.. Ergo... Paul Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges.. You just can't handle that FACT... Just like you can't handle the FACT that you are wrong and I am factually accurate... No, sir.

Aww, how sweet.. You call me 'sir'... Good for you.. :D

The fact that 11 jurors chose to find him guilty while 1 juror chose to acquit him of those 10 charges is NOT the equivalent of whether or not Paul Manafort committed the crimes.

It doesn't say

INNOCENT UNTIL *ALMOST* PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW

It says:

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW

Has Paul Manafort been PROVEN guilty in a court of law on those 10 charges??

No, he has not..

Ergo... Paul Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges..

You just can't handle that FACT... Just like you can't handle the FACT that you are wrong and I am factually accurate...

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125098 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 11:48:51 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125098 INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW... Paul Manafort has NOT been convicted in a court of law of those 10 charges... Ergo, Paul Manafort is INNOCENT of those charges.. You can dance around the FACTS all you want, employ whataboutism until yer blue in the face... It's irrelevant that ONE jury was a holdout or that they ALL were hold outs.. The SIMPLE FACT remains.. Paul Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges.. This is FACT..... INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW...

Paul Manafort has NOT been convicted in a court of law of those 10 charges...

Ergo, Paul Manafort is INNOCENT of those charges..

You can dance around the FACTS all you want, employ whataboutism until yer blue in the face... It's irrelevant that ONE jury was a holdout or that they ALL were hold outs..

The SIMPLE FACT remains..

Paul Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges..

This is FACT.....

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125097 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 11:22:22 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125097 Michale 10 <i>An American is INNOCENT until proven guilty in a court of law.. </i> If that were a fact, then James Hodkinson is INNOCENT, Adolph "He Who Must Not Be Named" is INNOCENT, and Bubba Clinton is INNOCENT of the rapes you incessantly whine about. <i>At this point in time, Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges against him. </i> No, sir. The fact that 11 jurors chose to find him guilty while 1 juror chose to acquit him of those 10 charges is NOT the equivalent of whether or not Paul Manafort committed the crimes. You are confusing legal terms of art with opinion and/or colloquial terms. The fact is, guilty people walk free every day, and innocent people are found guilty every day. It's not all that complicated. The facts of a case do not change regardless of the jury verdict. :) Michale
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An American is INNOCENT until proven guilty in a court of law..

If that were a fact, then James Hodkinson is INNOCENT, Adolph "He Who Must Not Be Named" is INNOCENT, and Bubba Clinton is INNOCENT of the rapes you incessantly whine about.

At this point in time, Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges against him.

No, sir. The fact that 11 jurors chose to find him guilty while 1 juror chose to acquit him of those 10 charges is NOT the equivalent of whether or not Paul Manafort committed the crimes.

You are confusing legal terms of art with opinion and/or colloquial terms. The fact is, guilty people walk free every day, and innocent people are found guilty every day. It's not all that complicated. The facts of a case do not change regardless of the jury verdict. :)

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125096 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:48:41 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125096 Michale 8 <i>Meanwhile, the same morons insist that President Donald Trump is guilty of "something"... without ever being charged with anything... </i> If I was talking about "President Donald Trump," you would have a point, but I wasn't... so you don't. I was discussing Manafort being called innocent when he wasn't acquitted and Hillary being called guilty when she wasn't charged. But let's do talk about "President Donald Trump" since you deflected... as per your usual. It is DOJ policy not to indict the sitting President of the United States, but that absolutely in no way precludes a grand jury from handing down an indictment against the President of the United States that is then placed under seal. Those sealed indictments are more likely than not to remain under seal until the BLOTUS is no longer under the cloak of the office of president. In the meantime, the Special Counsel will follow his order to bring charges against the other co-conspirators. Anyone who thinks the Special Counsel is going to play his hand early is a special kind of stupid. The Trump minions should absolutely pay no attention to the fact that indictments, guilty pleas, and guilty verdicts are being entered into courtrooms all over America. We wouldn't want to upset the snowflakes. :) Michale
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Meanwhile, the same morons insist that President Donald Trump is guilty of "something"... without ever being charged with anything...

If I was talking about "President Donald Trump," you would have a point, but I wasn't... so you don't. I was discussing Manafort being called innocent when he wasn't acquitted and Hillary being called guilty when she wasn't charged.

But let's do talk about "President Donald Trump" since you deflected... as per your usual. It is DOJ policy not to indict the sitting President of the United States, but that absolutely in no way precludes a grand jury from handing down an indictment against the President of the United States that is then placed under seal. Those sealed indictments are more likely than not to remain under seal until the BLOTUS is no longer under the cloak of the office of president. In the meantime, the Special Counsel will follow his order to bring charges against the other co-conspirators. Anyone who thinks the Special Counsel is going to play his hand early is a special kind of stupid.

The Trump minions should absolutely pay no attention to the fact that indictments, guilty pleas, and guilty verdicts are being entered into courtrooms all over America. We wouldn't want to upset the snowflakes. :)

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125095 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:02:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125095 CW, <I>To be really pedantic would have been to list all sixteen counts of guilty which appeared in courtrooms today, but: "Guilty. Guilty. Guilty... (etc.)... Guilty." Uh.... Once again, REALITY and FACTS are no where to be found here in Weigantia. :^(</I> As an aside, I owe you an apology for this one.. Had I read more carefully, I would have realized you were conflating two completely different and separate cases linked ONLY by the desire to nullify a free, fair and legal Presidential election.. As such, I withdraw that particular comment about lack of facts and reality here in Weigantia.. In that particular case, I was wrong.. My bust... :D CW,

To be really pedantic would have been to list all sixteen counts of guilty which appeared in courtrooms today, but: "Guilty. Guilty. Guilty... (etc.)... Guilty."

Uh.... Once again, REALITY and FACTS are no where to be found here in Weigantia. :^(

As an aside, I owe you an apology for this one..

Had I read more carefully, I would have realized you were conflating two completely different and separate cases linked ONLY by the desire to nullify a free, fair and legal Presidential election..

As such, I withdraw that particular comment about lack of facts and reality here in Weigantia.. In that particular case, I was wrong..

My bust... :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125094 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:24:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125094 <I>No, a mistrial is not the same thing as an acquittal. A hung jury is not the equivalent of being found innocent.</I> An American is INNOCENT until proven guilty in a court of law.. At this point in time, Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges against him. This is FACT whether you recognize it or not.. No, a mistrial is not the same thing as an acquittal. A hung jury is not the equivalent of being found innocent.

An American is INNOCENT until proven guilty in a court of law..

At this point in time, Manafort is INNOCENT of those 10 charges against him.

This is FACT whether you recognize it or not..

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125093 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:21:58 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125093 <I> I even heard the laughable: "Paul Manafort's going to walk away on 10 out of 18 charges!"</I> Says the guy who claimed the case went to the jury a full 3-4 days before it actually did.. :D I even heard the laughable: "Paul Manafort's going to walk away on 10 out of 18 charges!"

Says the guy who claimed the case went to the jury a full 3-4 days before it actually did.. :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125092 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:20:08 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125092 <I>Meanwhile, the same morons insist that Hillary Clinton is guilty of "something"... without ever being charged with anything... </I> Meanwhile, the same morons insist that President Donald Trump is guilty of "something"... without ever being charged with anything... Yep... It STILL works.. :D Funny how that is, eh? :D Meanwhile, the same morons insist that Hillary Clinton is guilty of "something"... without ever being charged with anything...

Meanwhile, the same morons insist that President Donald Trump is guilty of "something"... without ever being charged with anything...

Yep... It STILL works.. :D

Funny how that is, eh? :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125091 Michale Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:18:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125091 LB, Per our agreement in the last commentary.. Show me what ya got... :D LB,

Per our agreement in the last commentary..

Show me what ya got... :D

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125088 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 08:53:32 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125088 CW: <i>Bob Mueller can always (if he chooses) retry Manafort on the 10 charges, but he may not even have to since Manafort still faces his second trial in a few weeks, on multiple other felony charges. </i> Shhhhhhhh, CW. The gullible Trump minions are genuinely convinced that a mistrial in a court of law is the <b>exact same thing</b> as an acquittal by a jury. Pay no attention to the fact that the jury could have chosen to acquit Mr. Manafort and did not do that on any of the 10 remaining charges... which fact should surprise exactly zero people since Manafort's attorneys chose NOT to present a single witness in his defense. <blockquote>Dear misinformed ignorant people: No, a mistrial is <b>not</b> the same thing as an acquittal. A hung jury is not the equivalent of being found innocent. </blockquote> Meanwhile, the same morons insist that Hillary Clinton is guilty of "something"... without ever being charged with anything... because Hannity said so. It's mind bogglingly ignorant and would be comical if it wasn't so pathetic. :) CW: Bob Mueller can always (if he chooses) retry Manafort on the 10 charges, but he may not even have to since Manafort still faces his second trial in a few weeks, on multiple other felony charges.

Shhhhhhhh, CW. The gullible Trump minions are genuinely convinced that a mistrial in a court of law is the exact same thing as an acquittal by a jury. Pay no attention to the fact that the jury could have chosen to acquit Mr. Manafort and did not do that on any of the 10 remaining charges... which fact should surprise exactly zero people since Manafort's attorneys chose NOT to present a single witness in his defense.

Dear misinformed ignorant people:

No, a mistrial is not the same thing as an acquittal. A hung jury is not the equivalent of being found innocent.

Meanwhile, the same morons insist that Hillary Clinton is guilty of "something"... without ever being charged with anything... because Hannity said so. It's mind bogglingly ignorant and would be comical if it wasn't so pathetic. :)

]]> By: Kick http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125087 Kick Thu, 23 Aug 2018 07:48:53 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125087 <blockquote> <b>Lone holdout on Manafort jury blocked conviction on all counts, juror says </b> A juror in the trial of Paul Manafort said Wednesday all but one of the jurors wanted to convict President Trump’s former campaign chairman on every charge he faced — though she criticized special counsel prosecutors as seeming “bored” throughout the trial and said she believed their true motive was to “get the dirt on Trump.” The juror, who spoke on the record to Fox News and gave her name as Paula Duncan, said jurors “again and again” laid out for the lone holdout the evidence that persuaded them Manafort was guilty. But the holdout, a female, said she harbored reasonable doubt, Duncan said. “The evidence was overwhelming,” Duncan said, pointing to prosecutors’ extensive paper trail. “I did not want Paul Manafort to be guilty, but he was, and no one’s above the law.” https://tinyurl.com/yad82r87 </blockquote> So there you have it: But for <b>one</b> juror, Manafort would have been found guilty on all 18 counts due to the overwhelming evidence prosecutors presented with paper. There was a lone holdout on 10 counts, and the judge in the case can take this into consideration when sentencing. Prosecutors would be nuts not to preserve their right to seat a new jury to reach a verdict on the 10 charges with the lone holdout... unless, of course, they can otherwise reach some kind of other agreement with Manafort.

Lone holdout on Manafort jury blocked conviction on all counts, juror says

A juror in the trial of Paul Manafort said Wednesday all but one of the jurors wanted to convict President Trump’s former campaign chairman on every charge he faced — though she criticized special counsel prosecutors as seeming “bored” throughout the trial and said she believed their true motive was to “get the dirt on Trump.”

The juror, who spoke on the record to Fox News and gave her name as Paula Duncan, said jurors “again and again” laid out for the lone holdout the evidence that persuaded them Manafort was guilty. But the holdout, a female, said she harbored reasonable doubt, Duncan said.

“The evidence was overwhelming,” Duncan said, pointing to prosecutors’ extensive paper trail. “I did not want Paul Manafort to be guilty, but he was, and no one’s above the law.”

https://tinyurl.com/yad82r87

So there you have it: But for one juror, Manafort would have been found guilty on all 18 counts due to the overwhelming evidence prosecutors presented with paper. There was a lone holdout on 10 counts, and the judge in the case can take this into consideration when sentencing.

Prosecutors would be nuts not to preserve their right to seat a new jury to reach a verdict on the 10 charges with the lone holdout... unless, of course, they can otherwise reach some kind of other agreement with Manafort.

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125086 neilm Thu, 23 Aug 2018 03:28:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125086 https://www.buildquizzes.com/QFVIMY Bloody brilliant! Thanks for sharing. I got 19/20. I know my HHGTTG https://www.buildquizzes.com/QFVIMY

Bloody brilliant! Thanks for sharing.

I got 19/20.

I know my HHGTTG

]]> By: dustchute http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125085 dustchute Thu, 23 Aug 2018 02:17:51 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125085 Thank you! Well researched, thought-out & presented... dust Thank you!

Well researched, thought-out & presented...

dust

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125084 nypoet22 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 02:05:24 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125084 everyone knows donald only became president to steal air force one. <b>“That really is truly amazing. It’s so amazingly amazing, I think I’d like to steal it.”</b> oh wait, that was zaphod beeblebrox. i get the two confused... https://www.buildquizzes.com/QFVIMY JL everyone knows donald only became president to steal air force one.

“That really is truly amazing. It’s so amazingly amazing, I think I’d like to steal it.”

oh wait, that was zaphod beeblebrox. i get the two confused...

https://www.buildquizzes.com/QFVIMY

JL

]]> By: LeaningBlue http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125083 LeaningBlue Thu, 23 Aug 2018 01:39:28 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125083 I have no f*ing idea why there is a line feed in the middle of comment [1]. I have no f*ing idea why there is a line feed in the middle of comment [1].

]]> By: LeaningBlue http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/08/22/the-unindicted-co-conspirator/#comment-125082 LeaningBlue Thu, 23 Aug 2018 01:38:02 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15816#comment-125082 I'll be darned. Tonight, Maddow connected the "hacking" dot in Cohen's court transcript with Steele's redacted-sourced claim that Cohen discussed deniable payments to hackers in Prague. Yep, Cohen's a problem. I'll be darned. Tonight, Maddow connected the "hacking" dot in Cohen's court transcript with Steele's redacted-sourced claim that Cohen discussed deniable payments to hackers in Prague.

Yep, Cohen's a problem.

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