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]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122272 Michale Fri, 06 Jul 2018 12:18:16 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122272 <I>When the EC aligns with the popular vote numbers, why would there be any complaint? It’s when the will of the people to name their President is suppressed by the EC that people complain — and rightfully so! Trump was vocal about his displeasure with the EC, prior to it handing him the presidency.</I> So, that makes ya'all no better then Trump.. Funny.. I had THOUGHT that the Democrat Party was better than Trump... I mean, that's ya'all's claim, right?? Apparently, it's a claim that is not factually accurate.. When the EC aligns with the popular vote numbers, why would there be any complaint? It’s when the will of the people to name their President is suppressed by the EC that people complain — and rightfully so! Trump was vocal about his displeasure with the EC, prior to it handing him the presidency.

So, that makes ya'all no better then Trump..

Funny.. I had THOUGHT that the Democrat Party was better than Trump... I mean, that's ya'all's claim, right??

Apparently, it's a claim that is not factually accurate..

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122260 ListenWhenYouHear Fri, 06 Jul 2018 01:12:44 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122260 Michale, When the EC aligns with the popular vote numbers, why would there be any complaint? It’s when the will of the people to name their President is suppressed by the EC that people complain — and rightfully so! Trump was vocal about his displeasure with the EC, prior to it handing him the presidency. Michale,

When the EC aligns with the popular vote numbers, why would there be any complaint? It’s when the will of the people to name their President is suppressed by the EC that people complain — and rightfully so! Trump was vocal about his displeasure with the EC, prior to it handing him the presidency.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122241 Michale Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:14:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122241 <B>Facebook flags Declaration of Independence as hate speech</B> https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/4/facebook-flags-declaration-independence-hate-speec/ This is the Democrat Party's problem in a nutshell... Facebook flags Declaration of Independence as hate speech
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/4/facebook-flags-declaration-independence-hate-speec/

This is the Democrat Party's problem in a nutshell...

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122230 Michale Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:32:49 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122230 <I> remember when Trump took a vegetable identification test, managed to pass, and Michale went ape shit about how smart Trump was?</I> Nope.. Don't remember that at all.. I DO remember when ya'all hysterically accused Trump of being mentally ill and I posted the results of a test that PROVED ya'all were full of shit.. I don't expect you to remember that though.. You don't even remember when ya'all claimed, by omission or commission, that Trump would ignite a 2nd Korean War... Funny you have such a selective memory, eh?? :D remember when Trump took a vegetable identification test, managed to pass, and Michale went ape shit about how smart Trump was?

Nope.. Don't remember that at all..

I DO remember when ya'all hysterically accused Trump of being mentally ill and I posted the results of a test that PROVED ya'all were full of shit..

I don't expect you to remember that though..

You don't even remember when ya'all claimed, by omission or commission, that Trump would ignite a 2nd Korean War...

Funny you have such a selective memory, eh?? :D

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122229 neilm Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:13:14 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122229 <i>Do you think Hillary would have passed?? :D</i> Talking of tests, remember when Trump took a vegetable identification test, managed to pass, and Michale went ape shit about how smart Trump was? (Word is that they avoided difficult vegetables like broccoli or artichokes.) Do you think Hillary would have passed?? :D

Talking of tests, remember when Trump took a vegetable identification test, managed to pass, and Michale went ape shit about how smart Trump was? (Word is that they avoided difficult vegetables like broccoli or artichokes.)

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122228 neilm Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:12:47 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122228 <i>Do you think Hillary would have passed?? :D</i> Talking of tests, remember when Trump took a vegetable identification test, managed to pass, and Michale went ape shit about how smart Trump was? (Word is that they avoided difficult vegetables like broccoli or artichokes.) Do you think Hillary would have passed?? :D

Talking of tests, remember when Trump took a vegetable identification test, managed to pass, and Michale went ape shit about how smart Trump was? (Word is that they avoided difficult vegetables like broccoli or artichokes.)

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122221 Michale Thu, 05 Jul 2018 09:35:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122221 <I>Sure.. Why not throw in a religious test and ideological litmus test as well?? And we can add an 'ethics' test too.. Do you think Hillary would have passed?? :D</i> 10,000 Quatloos says you do.. :D Sure.. Why not throw in a religious test and ideological litmus test as well??

And we can add an 'ethics' test too..

Do you think Hillary would have passed?? :D

10,000 Quatloos says you do.. :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122218 Michale Thu, 05 Jul 2018 09:03:02 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122218 <I>Republicans are only concerned about the deficit when a Dem is in the White House.</I> And if we were talking about generic hypocrisy (such as Democrats are ALSO only concerned about the deficit when a GOP'er is in the White House) you would have a point. But we're not, so you don't.. <I> As for the EC, that is an archaic relic that prevents citizens from truly having a say as to who should be President. </I> The point is, NO ONE on your side of the aisle said BOO about the EC in 2008 and 2012... How come?? In 2008 and 2012, ya'all were PERFECTLY OK with the EC.. How come?? <I>I also think that every elected official must be able to pass the same civil servants exam that the lowliest federal employee must pass to be a candidate.</I> Sure.. Why not throw in a religious test and ideological litmus test as well?? And we can add an 'ethics' test too.. Do you think Hillary would have passed?? :D <I>In Trump’s case, I think a lot of what we realized is broken is due to the fact that we always trusted candidates to do the correct and ethical thing</I> Correct and ethical by WHOSE definition?? <I>Trump showed us that we cannot trust anyone to do the right thing on their own; there have to be set rules in place to force compliance.</I> <B>IF YOU LIKE YOUR DOCTOR YOU CAN KEEP YOUR DOCTOR</B> Funny how you weren't worried about "the right thing" then, eh? :D Republicans are only concerned about the deficit when a Dem is in the White House.

And if we were talking about generic hypocrisy (such as Democrats are ALSO only concerned about the deficit when a GOP'er is in the White House) you would have a point.

But we're not, so you don't..

As for the EC, that is an archaic relic that prevents citizens from truly having a say as to who should be President.

The point is, NO ONE on your side of the aisle said BOO about the EC in 2008 and 2012...

How come??

In 2008 and 2012, ya'all were PERFECTLY OK with the EC..

How come??

I also think that every elected official must be able to pass the same civil servants exam that the lowliest federal employee must pass to be a candidate.

Sure.. Why not throw in a religious test and ideological litmus test as well??

And we can add an 'ethics' test too..

Do you think Hillary would have passed?? :D

In Trump’s case, I think a lot of what we realized is broken is due to the fact that we always trusted candidates to do the correct and ethical thing

Correct and ethical by WHOSE definition??

Trump showed us that we cannot trust anyone to do the right thing on their own; there have to be set rules in place to force compliance.

IF YOU LIKE YOUR DOCTOR YOU CAN KEEP YOUR DOCTOR

Funny how you weren't worried about "the right thing" then, eh? :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122217 Michale Thu, 05 Jul 2018 08:57:49 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122217 <I>It was eight immigrants who signed the Declaration of Independence.</I> <B>***** STRAWMAN ALERT ******* ***** STRAWMAN ALERT ******* ***** STRAWMAN ALERT ******* ***** STRAWMAN ALERT ******* ***** STRAWMAN ALERT *******</B> It was eight immigrants who signed the Declaration of Independence.

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]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122216 Michale Thu, 05 Jul 2018 08:57:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122216 <I>Yeah, we'all said nothing of the sort - nice try at a deflection, but fail.</I> Yea, right.. :^/ Yeah, we'all said nothing of the sort - nice try at a deflection, but fail.

Yea, right.. :^/

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122211 ListenWhenYouHear Wed, 04 Jul 2018 23:35:14 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122211 Michale [6] I don’t think there is anything wrong with looking at our system of government and wanting to correct the problem areas. But don’t think it is just a Democrat habit — Republicans are only concerned about the deficit when a Dem is in the White House. As for the EC, that is an archaic relic that prevents citizens from truly having a say as to who should be President. I have no doubt that we’d see an increase in voting numbers in every state if we used the popular vote to elect the president. I didn’t like it when I was a Republican and I still don’t see the point of it today. I also think that every elected official must be able to pass the same civil servants exam that the lowliest federal employee must pass to be a candidate. We have plenty of high level officials that could not get hired by your local police department because of their past, yet we grant them unfettered access to government funds with very little oversight. One of the only bright spots that I can see coming from this corrupt presidency is how it will result in the creation of lots of laws and rules being put in place to make sure this doesn’t continue. In Trump’s case, I think a lot of what we realized is broken is due to the fact that we always trusted candidates to do the correct and ethical thing. Trump showed us that we cannot trust anyone to do the right thing on their own; there have to be set rules in place to force compliance. Michale [6]

I don’t think there is anything wrong with looking at our system of government and wanting to correct the problem areas. But don’t think it is just a Democrat habit — Republicans are only concerned about the deficit when a Dem is in the White House. As for the EC, that is an archaic relic that prevents citizens from truly having a say as to who should be President. I have no doubt that we’d see an increase in voting numbers in every state if we used the popular vote to elect the president. I didn’t like it when I was a Republican and I still don’t see the point of it today.

I also think that every elected official must be able to pass the same civil servants exam that the lowliest federal employee must pass to be a candidate. We have plenty of high level officials that could not get hired by your local police department because of their past, yet we grant them unfettered access to government funds with very little oversight.

One of the only bright spots that I can see coming from this corrupt presidency is how it will result in the creation of lots of laws and rules being put in place to make sure this doesn’t continue. In Trump’s case, I think a lot of what we realized is broken is due to the fact that we always trusted candidates to do the correct and ethical thing. Trump showed us that we cannot trust anyone to do the right thing on their own; there have to be set rules in place to force compliance.

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122210 neilm Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:42:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122210 Reminder for the 4th of July: It was eight immigrants who signed the Declaration of Independence. Happy 4th! Reminder for the 4th of July:

It was eight immigrants who signed the Declaration of Independence.

Happy 4th!

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122209 neilm Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:40:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122209 ICE maintains that their focus on finding and splitting up harmless families has led to a drop in "their ability to pursue national security threats, child pornography and transnational crime." 19 ICE agents believe that disbanding ICE and creating an investigations force would be far more effective in protecting America. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4562896-FILE-3286.html This is not an isolated view in ICE - a senior ICEofficial backed the concerned ICE agents up saying that “operational challenges raised in that letter that merit some discussion.” ICE maintains that their focus on finding and splitting up harmless families has led to a drop in "their ability to pursue national security threats, child pornography and transnational crime."

19 ICE agents believe that disbanding ICE and creating an investigations force would be far more effective in protecting America.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4562896-FILE-3286.html

This is not an isolated view in ICE - a senior ICEofficial backed the concerned ICE agents up saying that “operational challenges raised in that letter that merit some discussion.”

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122208 neilm Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:14:17 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122208 <i>Ya'all said we would be at war with the NORKS in xx months because of Trump if Trump got elected..</i> Yeah, we'all said nothing of the sort - nice try at a deflection, but fail. Have a great 4th buddy. Ya'all said we would be at war with the NORKS in xx months because of Trump if Trump got elected..

Yeah, we'all said nothing of the sort - nice try at a deflection, but fail.

Have a great 4th buddy.

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122207 nypoet22 Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:11:38 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122207 @m, in the most technical sense, i agree. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/korean-war-ends-kim-jong-un-moon-jae-in-north-south-summit-latest-news-a8324976.html @m,

in the most technical sense, i agree.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/korean-war-ends-kim-jong-un-moon-jae-in-north-south-summit-latest-news-a8324976.html

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122205 Michale Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:52:09 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122205 <I>Michale: do you think we would be at war with North Korea today is not for Trump?</I> It's what you Democrats were saying about BEING at war with the Norks.. Ya'all said we would be at war with the NORKS in <I>xx</I> months because of Trump if Trump got elected.. Since we're not at war with the Norks and President Trump DID get elected.... Yea, that's a reasonable possibility that we're not at war because of Trump.... Michale: do you think we would be at war with North Korea today is not for Trump?

It's what you Democrats were saying about BEING at war with the Norks..

Ya'all said we would be at war with the NORKS in xx months because of Trump if Trump got elected..

Since we're not at war with the Norks and President Trump DID get elected....

Yea, that's a reasonable possibility that we're not at war because of Trump....

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122204 neilm Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:41:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122204 "If not for me, we would now be at War with North Korea!" Trump 7/4/18 The man is beyond stupid, and into a whole new level of political crazy. Michale: do you think we would be at war with North Korea today is not for Trump? "If not for me, we would now be at War with North Korea!"

Trump 7/4/18

The man is beyond stupid, and into a whole new level of political crazy.

Michale: do you think we would be at war with North Korea today is not for Trump?

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122202 Michale Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:09:15 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122202 <I>The "superdelegate problem" is a Dem/Lib civil war. Let 'em fight it out till they're all extinct.</i. <B>"Don't tease me..."</B> -Slider, TOP GUN The "superdelegate problem" is a Dem/Lib civil war. Let 'em fight it out till they're all extinct.</i.

"Don't tease me..."
-Slider, TOP GUN

]]> By: C. R. Stucki http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122201 C. R. Stucki Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:23:34 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122201 The "superdelegate problem" is a Dem/Lib civil war. Let 'em fight it out till they're all extinct. The "superdelegate problem" is a Dem/Lib civil war. Let 'em fight it out till they're all extinct.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122199 Michale Wed, 04 Jul 2018 14:04:46 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122199 <I>the main problem for democrats is that their legislative actions don't match their rhetoric. the main problem for republicans is that their legislative actions DO match their rhetoric.</I> heh the main problem for democrats is that their legislative actions don't match their rhetoric. the main problem for republicans is that their legislative actions DO match their rhetoric.

heh

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122198 nypoet22 Wed, 04 Jul 2018 13:37:55 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122198 the main problem for democrats is that their legislative actions don't match their rhetoric. the main problem for republicans is that their legislative actions DO match their rhetoric. the main problem for democrats is that their legislative actions don't match their rhetoric. the main problem for republicans is that their legislative actions DO match their rhetoric.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122197 Michale Wed, 04 Jul 2018 11:49:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122197 <I>It's not a very motivating campaign slogan to say "Everything's fine." or "I wouldn't change a thing."</I> True.. But it would be HONEST and factual.. How many times do Democrats have to lose because of their message for them to realize that maybe the problem IS the message?? It's not a very motivating campaign slogan to say "Everything's fine." or "I wouldn't change a thing."

True.. But it would be HONEST and factual..

How many times do Democrats have to lose because of their message for them to realize that maybe the problem IS the message??

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122195 Michale Wed, 04 Jul 2018 10:29:30 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122195 Here's a general on topic question that I would really like a serious answer?? Why do Democrats feel they need to "fix" something just because they lose?? Isn't it possible that the political process (ANY political process, for that matter) is fine, that it's their own failings in their message or their actions that's the problem?? Isn't that possible?? <B>Hey, Democrats, The System Doesn’t Need To Be ’Fixed’ Every Time You Lose An Election</B> http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/03/hey-democrats-system-doesnt-need-fixed-every-time-lose-election/ That article is more geared towards the EC, but it certainly can apply to the primary process.. Here's a general on topic question that I would really like a serious answer??

Why do Democrats feel they need to "fix" something just because they lose??

Isn't it possible that the political process (ANY political process, for that matter) is fine, that it's their own failings in their message or their actions that's the problem??

Isn't that possible??

Hey, Democrats, The System Doesn’t Need To Be ’Fixed’ Every Time You Lose An Election
http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/03/hey-democrats-system-doesnt-need-fixed-every-time-lose-election/

That article is more geared towards the EC, but it certainly can apply to the primary process..

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122194 Michale Wed, 04 Jul 2018 10:18:06 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122194 <I>Happy Fourth of July, everyone!</I> Thank you, Liz.. :D Happy Fourth of July, everyone!

Thank you, Liz.. :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122193 Michale Wed, 04 Jul 2018 10:05:33 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122193 <I>Here's how the new system will work. Rather than superdelegates being automatically allowed to vote in the first round of voting (the way it previously worked), they will only be allowed to vote in the first round if one candidate has already secured the nomination by winning a majority of the pledged delegates. So the primaries and caucuses will be more important than before, and any endorsements of superdelegates before the primaries are over will be much less important, since their vote will only count if someone has already won the nomination through the primary process. This will level the playing field in the exact manner that Sanders wanted, putting the focus back on the primary voters themselves rather than party bigwigs.</I> Except on Tuesdays, at night with a quarter moon.. :D Here's how the new system will work. Rather than superdelegates being automatically allowed to vote in the first round of voting (the way it previously worked), they will only be allowed to vote in the first round if one candidate has already secured the nomination by winning a majority of the pledged delegates. So the primaries and caucuses will be more important than before, and any endorsements of superdelegates before the primaries are over will be much less important, since their vote will only count if someone has already won the nomination through the primary process. This will level the playing field in the exact manner that Sanders wanted, putting the focus back on the primary voters themselves rather than party bigwigs.

Except on Tuesdays, at night with a quarter moon.. :D

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122192 neilm Wed, 04 Jul 2018 03:43:49 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122192 To make this really fair we should get rid of caucuses and just go with primaries - these caucuses are a joke in my opinion. Also the Democrats should create 4 large groups of states and have each vote one month apart, but Iowa and New Hampshire placed randomly so other states get a chance to go first. To make this really fair we should get rid of caucuses and just go with primaries - these caucuses are a joke in my opinion.

Also the Democrats should create 4 large groups of states and have each vote one month apart, but Iowa and New Hampshire placed randomly so other states get a chance to go first.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/07/03/an-elegant-solution-to-the-superdelegate-problem/#comment-122191 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 04 Jul 2018 03:23:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15646#comment-122191 Happy Fourth of July, everyone! Happy Fourth of July, everyone!

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