Comments on: Friday Talking Points [490] -- Full Court Press http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/ Reality-based political commentary Tue, 05 May 2026 04:46:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122307 TheStig Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:53:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122307 DH - Enough! JUST FUCKING DO IT AND PROVE YOUR POINT. DH - Enough! JUST FUCKING DO IT AND PROVE YOUR POINT.

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122250 TheStig Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:25:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122250 DH-325 Well, I think been pretty specific about what bothers me about various aspects of OneDemand, but let summarize my unease about your underlying big idea. As others have probably noted, your theory is very similar to the Underpants Gnome Theory: 1)Collect underpants... 2)???????? 3)Profit! How does 3 follow from 1 with no 2? One Demand Theory: 1) Take big money, lose our votes 2) ?????????? 3) Big money politics is defeated! Why does end result 3 follow from action 1? ...with no 2. You set up a game theory, but you don't examine what the best strategies are for the key players: big money donors, politicians, voters:small money donors. This is in fact a complicated problem, part "Prisoners Dilemma" and part "rock, scissors paper". Psychology plus Maths. You assume the small money voters win and the big money politicians lose. You don't even consider the possibility that big money wins the game, because no viable small money candidates run, and voters who "take the pledge" simply stay home. If you are going to test your new, but unproven "political wonder weapon," do out in the sticks, not in populated areas where failure could maim millions of people. If works on a small scale, you will find plenty of converts to take your idea and literally run with it in 2020. DH-325

Well, I think been pretty specific about what bothers me about various aspects of OneDemand, but let summarize my unease about your underlying big idea.

As others have probably noted, your theory is very similar to the Underpants Gnome Theory:

1)Collect underpants...

2)????????

3)Profit!

How does 3 follow from 1 with no 2?

One Demand Theory:

1) Take big money, lose our votes

2) ??????????

3) Big money politics is defeated!

Why does end result 3 follow from action 1? ...with no 2. You set up a game theory, but you don't examine what the best strategies are for the key players: big money donors, politicians, voters:small money donors. This is in fact a complicated problem, part "Prisoners Dilemma" and part "rock, scissors paper". Psychology plus Maths. You assume the small money voters win and the big money politicians lose. You don't even consider the possibility that big money wins the game, because no viable small money candidates run, and voters who "take the pledge" simply stay home.

If you are going to test your new, but unproven "political wonder weapon," do out in the sticks, not in populated areas where failure could maim millions of people. If works on a small scale, you will find plenty of converts to take your idea and literally run with it in 2020.

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122166 TheStig Tue, 03 Jul 2018 17:12:35 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122166 DH-321 Fine, replace business plan with operational plan. No you don't have to impress me. Unless you want my endorsement, my electronic signature, or a donation. Then... you do. I make those rules, you don't have any say on my policy. You can excommunicate from OneDemand if you like. There is nothing funny, ironical, or unfair about me remaining anonymous on the web while asking you to identify yourself. I'm not asking you for any money, I'm not asking you to take a pledge or become part of a movement. I'm not demanding you publish my viewpoints on your website...which is a "funny" thing you demand from CW on almost a daily basis. I'm not forcing you do anything, but I will not endorse you until I'm convinced you are not a delusional crank, a bizarre prankster or a con artist. About that man/mouse remark. I've been addressing your comments pretty much from the first day you start spamming at CW.com. I'm much more selective in responding to you than I used to be, because I don't like repeating myself. DH-321

Fine, replace business plan with operational plan.

No you don't have to impress me. Unless you want my endorsement, my electronic signature, or a donation. Then... you do. I make those rules, you don't have any say on my policy. You can excommunicate from OneDemand if you like.

There is nothing funny, ironical, or unfair about me remaining anonymous on the web while asking you to identify yourself. I'm not asking you for any money, I'm not asking you to take a pledge or become part of a movement. I'm not demanding you publish my viewpoints on your website...which is a "funny" thing you demand from CW on almost a daily basis.

I'm not forcing you do anything, but I will not endorse you until I'm convinced you are not a delusional crank, a bizarre prankster or a con artist.

About that man/mouse remark. I've been addressing your comments pretty much from the first day you start spamming at CW.com. I'm much more selective in responding to you than I used to be, because I don't like repeating myself.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122156 Elizabeth Miller Tue, 03 Jul 2018 12:47:03 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122156 Michale[322], More half-truths (closer to quarter-truths) from you. Actually, your problem here, on any number of issues, is that you often provide only a scintilla of truth in your arguments and they way you use these "facts" turns them into outright lies. I'm sick of it and I'm done with you unless you cease and desist from this horrible practice. Michale[322],

More half-truths (closer to quarter-truths) from you.

Actually, your problem here, on any number of issues, is that you often provide only a scintilla of truth in your arguments and they way you use these "facts" turns them into outright lies.

I'm sick of it and I'm done with you unless you cease and desist from this horrible practice.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122145 Michale Tue, 03 Jul 2018 08:26:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122145 Russ, <I>That you are just as dishonest as the Orange Man-baby that you worship. I responded to this argument last week in full detail and you simply ignored the facts presented to you. </I> You had no facts.. All you had was some mewling about how Obama really didn't do it.. But it has already been established AND conceded by Weigantians that, YES.. Obama did separate children from their families.. THIS IS FACT.. And YES... Obama DID put children in cages.. THIS IS FACT... Get over it, Russ. You lost.. Russ,

That you are just as dishonest as the Orange Man-baby that you worship. I responded to this argument last week in full detail and you simply ignored the facts presented to you.

You had no facts..

All you had was some mewling about how Obama really didn't do it..

But it has already been established AND conceded by Weigantians that, YES.. Obama did separate children from their families.. THIS IS FACT..

And YES... Obama DID put children in cages.. THIS IS FACT...

Get over it, Russ. You lost..

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122121 ListenWhenYouHear Mon, 02 Jul 2018 22:55:48 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122121 Michale [231] <I> And the hypocrite part came in because your messiah Odumbo did the EXACT same thing and YOU SAID NOTHING... So, what is the ONLY logical conclusion??</I> That you are just as dishonest as the Orange Man-baby that you worship. I responded to this argument last week in full detail and you simply ignored the facts presented to you. Obama did not have the DOJ and ICE treat the civil misdemeanor charge of crossing the border without proper documentation as a criminal offense. Obama did not rip children away from those seeking asylum the way Trump has. Obama did not tell parents seeking asylum that the only way to get their children back was to return to their country of origin the way that Trump has. So, NO, Obama did not do the same exact thing that Trump is doing. Michale [231]

And the hypocrite part came in because your messiah Odumbo did the EXACT same thing and YOU SAID NOTHING...

So, what is the ONLY logical conclusion??

That you are just as dishonest as the Orange Man-baby that you worship. I responded to this argument last week in full detail and you simply ignored the facts presented to you. Obama did not have the DOJ and ICE treat the civil misdemeanor charge of crossing the border without proper documentation as a criminal offense. Obama did not rip children away from those seeking asylum the way Trump has. Obama did not tell parents seeking asylum that the only way to get their children back was to return to their country of origin the way that Trump has.

So, NO, Obama did not do the same exact thing that Trump is doing.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122120 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 22:19:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122120 Hey, Michale! What do you think of this Democratic slogan: REPEAL AND REPLACE ICE! Hey, Michale!

What do you think of this Democratic slogan:

REPEAL AND REPLACE ICE!

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122119 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 22:13:31 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122119 <I>As Elizabeth stated, you are cherry picking and going with only HALF a truth about what was actually said. Abolishing ICE goes hand in hand with REPLACING it with ANOTHER REFORMED organization.</I> I am only going by what the Left Wingers are saying.. ABOLISH ICE... I understand that's unpalatable for ya'all.. I agree it's moronic and stoopid.. But THAT is what they are advocating... But, at least we can agree that ABOLISHING ICE is a NONE STARTER for the American people and will cause Democrats to lose in November BIG TIME... As Elizabeth stated, you are cherry picking and going with only HALF a truth about what was actually said. Abolishing ICE goes hand in hand with REPLACING it with ANOTHER REFORMED organization.

I am only going by what the Left Wingers are saying..

ABOLISH ICE...

I understand that's unpalatable for ya'all.. I agree it's moronic and stoopid..

But THAT is what they are advocating...

But, at least we can agree that ABOLISHING ICE is a NONE STARTER for the American people and will cause Democrats to lose in November BIG TIME...

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122118 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 22:08:54 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122118 <I>I am quoting what virtually all CONSERVATIVES claim is SUPPOSED to be BEDROCK WESTERN PHILOSOPHY.</I> I know.. It's HILARIOUS that you think I listen to the bible.. :D Have you MET me?? :D <I>YES He's called my BROTHER-IN-LAW. Now that's HUMOR! :-D</I> Touche'... :D Now THAT was funny :D I am quoting what virtually all CONSERVATIVES claim is SUPPOSED to be BEDROCK WESTERN PHILOSOPHY.

I know.. It's HILARIOUS that you think I listen to the bible.. :D

Have you MET me?? :D

YES

He's called my BROTHER-IN-LAW. Now that's HUMOR! :-D

Touche'... :D

Now THAT was funny :D

]]> By: John M http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122117 John M Mon, 02 Jul 2018 22:01:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122117 [314] Michale "yer quoting the BIBLE to me?? hehehehehehehehehehe Funny... I always knew you had a great sense of humor.. :D" I am quoting what virtually all CONSERVATIVES claim is SUPPOSED to be BEDROCK WESTERN PHILOSOPHY. "Would you keep a deadbeat hobo in your house and support him for years and years??" YES He's called my BROTHER-IN-LAW. Now that's HUMOR! :-D [314] Michale

"yer quoting the BIBLE to me??

hehehehehehehehehehe Funny... I always knew you had a great sense of humor.. :D"

I am quoting what virtually all CONSERVATIVES claim is SUPPOSED to be BEDROCK WESTERN PHILOSOPHY.

"Would you keep a deadbeat hobo in your house and support him for years and years??"

YES

He's called my BROTHER-IN-LAW. Now that's HUMOR! :-D

]]> By: John M http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122115 John M Mon, 02 Jul 2018 21:54:05 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122115 [268] Michale "Yea.. There is no movement to Abolish ICE.. :D" As Elizabeth stated, you are cherry picking and going with only HALF a truth about what was actually said. Abolishing ICE goes hand in hand with REPLACING it with ANOTHER REFORMED organization. [268] Michale

"Yea.. There is no movement to Abolish ICE.. :D"

As Elizabeth stated, you are cherry picking and going with only HALF a truth about what was actually said. Abolishing ICE goes hand in hand with REPLACING it with ANOTHER REFORMED organization.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122114 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 21:51:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122114 <I>I, the Lord, command you to do what is just and right. Protect the person who is being cheated from the one who is cheating him. Do not ill-treat or oppress foreigners, orphans, or widows; and do not kill innocent people in this holy place. (Jeremiah 22:3) Rich people who see a brother or sister in need, yet close their hearts against them, cannot claim that they love God. (1 John 3:17) Suppose there are brothers or sisters who need clothes and don’t have enough to eat. What good is there in your saying to them, “God bless you! Keep warm and eat well!” – if you don’t give them the necessities of life? (James 2:15-16)</I> yer quoting the BIBLE to me?? hehehehehehehehehehe Funny... I always knew you had a great sense of humor.. :D <I>The point being that "idleness" is NOT indicative of something's or someone's intrinsic worth or value.</I> More often than not, it IS indicative of someone's worth or value.. Would you keep a deadbeat hobo in your house and support him for years and years?? That's what yer advocating for Americans... I, the Lord, command you to do what is just and right. Protect the person who is being cheated from the one who is cheating him. Do not ill-treat or oppress foreigners, orphans, or widows; and do not kill innocent people in this holy place. (Jeremiah 22:3)

Rich people who see a brother or sister in need, yet close their hearts against them, cannot claim that they love God. (1 John 3:17)

Suppose there are brothers or sisters who need clothes and don’t have enough to eat. What good is there in your saying to them, “God bless you! Keep warm and eat well!” – if you don’t give them the necessities of life? (James 2:15-16)

yer quoting the BIBLE to me??

hehehehehehehehehehe Funny... I always knew you had a great sense of humor.. :D

The point being that "idleness" is NOT indicative of something's or someone's intrinsic worth or value.

More often than not, it IS indicative of someone's worth or value..

Would you keep a deadbeat hobo in your house and support him for years and years??

That's what yer advocating for Americans...

]]> By: John M http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122113 John M Mon, 02 Jul 2018 21:50:37 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122113 [257] Michale . "Factually not accurate.. Her thinking is, if we have open borders, we don't NEED ICE..." Michale, do you EVER READ what YOU CITE? From YOUR article: "The concern that some citizens might lose jobs to immigrants is not supported by research. One study found migrant and native workers are employed in different sectors of the economy, another showed that migrants create 1.2 additional jobs beyond the job they do because they rent an apartment, buy a car, and frequent local businesses." "The claim that immigrants commit more crime is also false. One study found that 3% of migrants without a college degree are in jail, compared to 11% of the native population. The Cato Institute calculated that the odds of being killed in a terrorist attack carried out by an immigrant are extremely low, 1 in 723 million." [257] Michale .

"Factually not accurate.. Her thinking is, if we have open borders, we don't NEED ICE..."

Michale, do you EVER READ what YOU CITE?

From YOUR article:

"The concern that some citizens might lose jobs to immigrants is not supported by research. One study found migrant and native workers are employed in different sectors of the economy, another showed that migrants create 1.2 additional jobs beyond the job they do because they rent an apartment, buy a car, and frequent local businesses."

"The claim that immigrants commit more crime is also false. One study found that 3% of migrants without a college degree are in jail, compared to 11% of the native population. The Cato Institute calculated that the odds of being killed in a terrorist attack carried out by an immigrant are extremely low, 1 in 723 million."

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122111 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 21:47:36 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122111 <I>Mueller is on his first time round and he is definitely not a bozo.</I> Yea, right... Check out the Anthrax Investigation.. Mueller's BOZO status is well established... Mueller is on his first time round and he is definitely not a bozo.

Yea, right...

Check out the Anthrax Investigation..

Mueller's BOZO status is well established...

]]> By: John M http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122110 John M Mon, 02 Jul 2018 21:44:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122110 [252] Michale "Why should those who DO work and DO prosper have to fund those who refuse to work and refuse to prosper??" I, the Lord, command you to do what is just and right. Protect the person who is being cheated from the one who is cheating him. Do not ill-treat or oppress foreigners, orphans, or widows; and do not kill innocent people in this holy place. (Jeremiah 22:3) Rich people who see a brother or sister in need, yet close their hearts against them, cannot claim that they love God. (1 John 3:17) Suppose there are brothers or sisters who need clothes and don’t have enough to eat. What good is there in your saying to them, “God bless you! Keep warm and eat well!” – if you don’t give them the necessities of life? (James 2:15-16) Share your belongings with your needy fellow Christians, and open your homes to strangers. (Romans 12:13) OR, if you PREFER: SPOCK, Star Trek, TOS, quoting from the Sermon On The Mount, in the EPISODE The Trouble With Tribbles "They remind me of the lilies of the field. They toil not, neither do they spin. But they seem to eat a great deal. I see no practical use for them." However "Its trilling seems to have a tranquilizing effect on the Human nervous system. Fortunately, of course … I am immune … to its effect." The point being that "idleness" is NOT indicative of something's or someone's intrinsic worth or value. Are those reasons enough, or is more required? [252] Michale

"Why should those who DO work and DO prosper have to fund those who refuse to work and refuse to prosper??"

I, the Lord, command you to do what is just and right. Protect the person who is being cheated from the one who is cheating him. Do not ill-treat or oppress foreigners, orphans, or widows; and do not kill innocent people in this holy place. (Jeremiah 22:3)

Rich people who see a brother or sister in need, yet close their hearts against them, cannot claim that they love God. (1 John 3:17)

Suppose there are brothers or sisters who need clothes and don’t have enough to eat. What good is there in your saying to them, “God bless you! Keep warm and eat well!” – if you don’t give them the necessities of life? (James 2:15-16)

Share your belongings with your needy fellow Christians, and open your homes to strangers. (Romans 12:13)

OR, if you PREFER:

SPOCK, Star Trek, TOS, quoting from the Sermon On The Mount, in the EPISODE The Trouble With Tribbles "They remind me of the lilies of the field. They toil not, neither do they spin. But they seem to eat a great deal. I see no practical use for them." However "Its trilling seems to have a tranquilizing effect on the Human nervous system. Fortunately, of course … I am immune … to its effect."

The point being that "idleness" is NOT indicative of something's or someone's intrinsic worth or value.

Are those reasons enough, or is more required?

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122109 neilm Mon, 02 Jul 2018 21:36:10 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122109 <i>Remember when some numbskull's testimony in Congress was going to be a "bombshell" and it fizzled like yesterday's quiche???</i> Yes - we had 19 separate Benghazi!!! investigations with nothing new because they were run by a bunch of bozos. Mueller is on his first time round and he is definitely not a bozo. Pass the popcorn. World Cup. Tour de France. Wimbledon. Trump investigation. July 2018 - what a month! Remember when some numbskull's testimony in Congress was going to be a "bombshell" and it fizzled like yesterday's quiche???

Yes - we had 19 separate Benghazi!!! investigations with nothing new because they were run by a bunch of bozos.

Mueller is on his first time round and he is definitely not a bozo.

Pass the popcorn. World Cup. Tour de France. Wimbledon. Trump investigation. July 2018 - what a month!

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122108 TheStig Mon, 02 Jul 2018 21:27:14 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122108 neilm -305 ".... Not sure I'd be happy to see this if I were in the White House." Probably no happier about it in Bedminster. neilm -305

".... Not sure I'd be happy to see this if I were in the White House."

Probably no happier about it in Bedminster.

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122106 TheStig Mon, 02 Jul 2018 20:57:30 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122106 DH-303 "The bio is available" Something other than the one on your site? Real name, date and place of birth, contact info, education, work history, publications, references, point of contact, the usual stuff that can be verfied by searching public records. The info you would be expected to put in a job application.....or a business plan.....which you haven't produced either. If you want to be treated as professional, act like one. DH-303

"The bio is available"

Something other than the one on your site? Real name, date and place of birth, contact info, education, work history, publications, references, point of contact, the usual stuff that can be verfied by searching public records. The info you would be expected to put in a job application.....or a business plan.....which you haven't produced either.

If you want to be treated as professional, act like one.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122105 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 20:49:02 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122105 Remember when some numbskull's testimony in Congress was going to be a "bombshell" and it fizzled like yesterday's quiche??? That's what ya'all remind me of... All spark, no fire.... It's pathetic how the Left hangs on every leak, only to be disappointed time and time again... #sad Remember when some numbskull's testimony in Congress was going to be a "bombshell" and it fizzled like yesterday's quiche???

That's what ya'all remind me of...

All spark, no fire....

It's pathetic how the Left hangs on every leak, only to be disappointed time and time again...

#sad

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122103 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 20:40:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122103 <I>[Michael Cohen] speaking to George Stephanopoulos in the ABC interview, conducted on Saturday at a hotel in New York City, he said: “My wife, my daughter and my son have my first loyalty and always will. I put family and country first.” In answer to the question of whether he expected Trump to turn on him, Cohen said: “I will not be a punching bag as part of anyone’s defense strategy. I am not a villain of this story, and I will not allow others to try to depict me that way.” More and more interesting - I'm not sure I'd be happy to see this if I were in the White House.</I> YYYYAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNN More <B>"Oh now XXX is turning on Trump... *NOW* the shit is gonna hit the fan..."</B> Dood, ya'all have played this record OVER and OVER and OVER again.... But *NOW* it's gonna be different, right!!!??? Wake me up when ya actually GOT something, eh?? :^/ [Michael Cohen] speaking to George Stephanopoulos in the ABC interview, conducted on Saturday at a hotel in New York City, he said: “My wife, my daughter and my son have my first loyalty and always will. I put family and country first.”

In answer to the question of whether he expected Trump to turn on him, Cohen said: “I will not be a punching bag as part of anyone’s defense strategy. I am not a villain of this story, and I will not allow others to try to depict me that way.”

More and more interesting - I'm not sure I'd be happy to see this if I were in the White House.

YYYYAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNN

More "Oh now XXX is turning on Trump... *NOW* the shit is gonna hit the fan..."

Dood, ya'all have played this record OVER and OVER and OVER again....

But *NOW* it's gonna be different, right!!!???

Wake me up when ya actually GOT something, eh?? :^/

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122102 neilm Mon, 02 Jul 2018 20:36:23 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122102 [Michael Cohen] speaking to George Stephanopoulos in the ABC interview, conducted on Saturday at a hotel in New York City, he said: “My wife, my daughter and my son have my first loyalty and always will. I put family and country first.” In answer to the question of whether he expected Trump to turn on him, Cohen said: “I will not be a punching bag as part of anyone’s defense strategy. I am not a villain of this story, and I will not allow others to try to depict me that way.” More and more interesting - I'm not sure I'd be happy to see this if I were in the White House. [Michael Cohen] speaking to George Stephanopoulos in the ABC interview, conducted on Saturday at a hotel in New York City, he said: “My wife, my daughter and my son have my first loyalty and always will. I put family and country first.”

In answer to the question of whether he expected Trump to turn on him, Cohen said: “I will not be a punching bag as part of anyone’s defense strategy. I am not a villain of this story, and I will not allow others to try to depict me that way.”

More and more interesting - I'm not sure I'd be happy to see this if I were in the White House.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122101 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:33:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122101 <I>But what may be good for your country won't work in ours..</I> Precisely. But what may be good for your country won't work in ours..

Precisely.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122099 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:26:53 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122099 <I>Oh, well, that scale was just to show where we both were coming from in terms of what immigration and refugee policy we support. Good God, I wasn't taking about world government!</I> I stand corrected... <I>And, by 'we' I mean ALL of us, regardless of our home country or where on the planet we reside.</I> But what may be good for your country won't work in ours.. That's the reality that many people on your side of the aisle don't understand... Oh, well, that scale was just to show where we both were coming from in terms of what immigration and refugee policy we support. Good God, I wasn't taking about world government!

I stand corrected...

And, by 'we' I mean ALL of us, regardless of our home country or where on the planet we reside.

But what may be good for your country won't work in ours..

That's the reality that many people on your side of the aisle don't understand...

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122098 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:21:33 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122098 In other words, Michale, my general view and starting point on any issue is that we are all in this together. And, by 'we' I mean ALL of us, regardless of our home country or where on the planet we reside. In other words, Michale, my general view and starting point on any issue is that we are all in this together.

And, by 'we' I mean ALL of us, regardless of our home country or where on the planet we reside.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122097 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:15:36 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122097 Michale, <I>yet, your scale is based on a citizen of a nation vs a citizen of the world...</I> Oh, well, that scale was just to show where we both were coming from in terms of what immigration and refugee policy we support. Good God, I wasn't taking about world government! Michale,

yet, your scale is based on a citizen of a nation vs a citizen of the world...

Oh, well, that scale was just to show where we both were coming from in terms of what immigration and refugee policy we support. Good God, I wasn't taking about world government!

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122096 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:14:37 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122096 <I>yet, your scale is based on a citizen of a nation vs a citizen of the world...,/I. Oh, well, that scale was just to show where we both were coming from in terms of what immigration and refugee policy we support. Good God, I wasn't taking about world government! yet, your scale is based on a citizen of a nation vs a citizen of the world...,/I.

Oh, well, that scale was just to show where we both were coming from in terms of what immigration and refugee policy we support. Good God, I wasn't taking about world government!

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122095 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:13:19 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122095 <B>American man converted to Islam and radicalized planning a 4th of July bombing in Cleveland. "An undercover FBI employee met with Pitts and began recording their conversations, in which he fantasized about beheading President Donald Trump, attacking U.S. soldiers, and sowing terror in Cleveland on Independence Day."</B> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/demetrius-pitts-charged-cleveland-bomb-plot-after-fbi-sting-n888336 Democrats :^/ American man converted to Islam and radicalized planning a 4th of July bombing in Cleveland.

"An undercover FBI employee met with Pitts and began recording their conversations, in which he fantasized about beheading President Donald Trump, attacking U.S. soldiers, and sowing terror in Cleveland on Independence Day."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/demetrius-pitts-charged-cleveland-bomb-plot-after-fbi-sting-n888336

Democrats :^/

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122094 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:11:33 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122094 <I>I'm in the internationalist camp and support cooperative engagement but, I'm not looking for a "world government"!</I> yet, your scale is based on a citizen of a nation vs a citizen of the world... That usually bespeaks to a world government.. I'm in the internationalist camp and support cooperative engagement but, I'm not looking for a "world government"!

yet, your scale is based on a citizen of a nation vs a citizen of the world...

That usually bespeaks to a world government..

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122093 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:10:09 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122093 <I>Don't you usually take that kind of statement as a challenge? Or is that only when it comes from the left? :D</I> Not from someone like CRS... :D He and I are like Neil and I used to be before Neil drunk the koolaid... Don't you usually take that kind of statement as a challenge? Or is that only when it comes from the left? :D

Not from someone like CRS... :D

He and I are like Neil and I used to be before Neil drunk the koolaid...

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122092 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:06:34 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122092 <B>Trump just keeps on confounding his hapless detractors The left, much of the media and countless other opponents of President Trump have led a relentless, vicious, multi-pronged and often dishonest assault on him and his agenda since he first emerged as a presidential candidate in 2015. This assault, ramped up significantly during his presidency, has taken many forms: an apparently endless special counsel investigation, constant protests, bureaucratic stonewalling, “Deep State” leaking, continuous lawsuits, manufactured crises and outrage, daily media pounding and often false reporting, smears, personal attacks and abusive, even violent acts targeting his staff and supporters — all designed to cripple his ability to govern effectively. While Trump’s adversaries have been busy trying to execute their rolling putsch, however, the American people have been busy doing something else: supporting him and his policies. Instead of denting Trump, the perpetual outrage machine is creating the exact opposite dynamic. The proof is in a stunning new Harvard CAPS/Harris poll just released and conducted after the family-separation issue exploded along the U.S.-Mexico border. Trump now enjoys 47 percent job approval, up 2 points from May. This is remarkable given the constant drumbeat of negative coverage, and it demonstrates yet again his uncanny ability to defy the laws of political gravity. When President Reagan and his policies remained popular in the face of never-ending criticism, he became known as the “Teflon president.” Trump is Teflon on steroids.</B> http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/394934-trump-just-keeps-on-confounding-his-hapless-detractors Face reality, people... President Trump is winning and winning and winning and winning... And the Left is just sittin' there with their wee-wees in their hand going, <B>"W... T... F...????"</B> :D Trump just keeps on confounding his hapless detractors

The left, much of the media and countless other opponents of President Trump have led a relentless, vicious, multi-pronged and often dishonest assault on him and his agenda since he first emerged as a presidential candidate in 2015. This assault, ramped up significantly during his presidency, has taken many forms: an apparently endless special counsel investigation, constant protests, bureaucratic stonewalling, “Deep State” leaking, continuous lawsuits, manufactured crises and outrage, daily media pounding and often false reporting, smears, personal attacks and abusive, even violent acts targeting his staff and supporters — all designed to cripple his ability to govern effectively.

While Trump’s adversaries have been busy trying to execute their rolling putsch, however, the American people have been busy doing something else: supporting him and his policies. Instead of denting Trump, the perpetual outrage machine is creating the exact opposite dynamic.

The proof is in a stunning new Harvard CAPS/Harris poll just released and conducted after the family-separation issue exploded along the U.S.-Mexico border. Trump now enjoys 47 percent job approval, up 2 points from May. This is remarkable given the constant drumbeat of negative coverage, and it demonstrates yet again his uncanny ability to defy the laws of political gravity. When President Reagan and his policies remained popular in the face of never-ending criticism, he became known as the “Teflon president.” Trump is Teflon on steroids.
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/394934-trump-just-keeps-on-confounding-his-hapless-detractors

Face reality, people... President Trump is winning and winning and winning and winning...

And the Left is just sittin' there with their wee-wees in their hand going, "W... T... F...????"

:D

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122091 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:02:32 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122091 Heh. Heh.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122089 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:01:35 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122089 <I>Yes, because the kind of world government you want is not the same as the kind of world government I want..</I> World government?? Who said anything about that? I'm in the internationalist camp and support cooperative engagement but, I'm not looking for a "world government"! Yes, because the kind of world government you want is not the same as the kind of world government I want..

World government?? Who said anything about that?

I'm in the internationalist camp and support cooperative engagement but, I'm not looking for a "world government"!

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122087 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:47:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122087 <I>Michale Ya don't gotta worry about offending me. I'm damn near impossible to offend at the blog level.</I> I'll keep that in mind.. :D Michale

Ya don't gotta worry about offending me. I'm damn near impossible to offend at the blog level.

I'll keep that in mind.. :D

]]> By: C. R. Stucki http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122086 C. R. Stucki Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:41:52 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122086 Michale Ya don't gotta worry about offending me. I'm damn near impossible to offend at the blog level. Michale

Ya don't gotta worry about offending me. I'm damn near impossible to offend at the blog level.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122085 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:23:26 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122085 <B>Man allegedly threatens to chop up Rand Paul and his family with an ax</B> https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/02/man-threatens-kill-sen-rand-paul-ax/751211002/ Peaceful, tolerant Democrats... :^/ Man allegedly threatens to chop up Rand Paul and his family with an ax
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/02/man-threatens-kill-sen-rand-paul-ax/751211002/

Peaceful, tolerant Democrats... :^/

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122084 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:09:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122084 CRS, No offense.. Just seemed apropos :D CRS,

No offense.. Just seemed apropos :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122083 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:03:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122083 <I>Trump is too dumb to understand that.</I> <B>"Yea!?? Well.... Double dumb ass on you!!!"</B> -Admiral James T Kirk :D heh Trump is too dumb to understand that.

"Yea!?? Well.... Double dumb ass on you!!!"
-Admiral James T Kirk

:D heh

]]> By: C. R. Stucki http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122082 C. R. Stucki Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:53:52 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122082 neilm [222] [223] There ARE no "winners" of trade wars, only losers. Trades only take place when both parties benefit. Trump is too dumb to understand that. neilm [222] [223]

There ARE no "winners" of trade wars, only losers. Trades only take place when both parties benefit.

Trump is too dumb to understand that.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122081 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:46:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122081 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5c97ed1cfa47e50ad1d0faa67652a9d7b00cd2b7bfa148ceb77676e06b85b21f.jpg?w=800&h=601 Yep.. yep.. dead on ballz accurate.. :D https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5c97ed1cfa47e50ad1d0faa67652a9d7b00cd2b7bfa148ceb77676e06b85b21f.jpg?w=800&h=601

Yep.. yep.. dead on ballz accurate.. :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122080 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:36:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122080 http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/01/03/4DCCFF7800000578-5905247-image-m-11_1530411486378.jpg Typical Progressive phony... Lived in the lap of luxury while claiming hard fought scramble for life... http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/01/03/4DCCFF7800000578-5905247-image-m-11_1530411486378.jpg

Typical Progressive phony...

Lived in the lap of luxury while claiming hard fought scramble for life...

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122079 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:26:32 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122079 <I>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/opinion/trump-immigration-nativism-voters.html</I> NY Grime?? BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/opinion/trump-immigration-nativism-voters.html

NY Grime??

BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122078 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:25:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122078 <I>BTW, do our Trump loving Weigentians agree that immigrants are "animals" that are "infesting" our country like vermin?</I> Of course not.. And Trump didn't even say that.. This is exactly why it's impossible to take you people seriously.. You NEVER have any facts... <I>Trump, May 2018: "These aren't people. These are animals." Trump, June 2018: "They [Democrats] don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country"</I> Both time, President Trump was referring to MS-13.. If Trump... excuse me.. PRESIDENT Trump is so bad, why do you have to make shit up??? BTW, do our Trump loving Weigentians agree that immigrants are "animals" that are "infesting" our country like vermin?

Of course not.. And Trump didn't even say that..

This is exactly why it's impossible to take you people seriously..

You NEVER have any facts...

Trump, May 2018: "These aren't people. These are animals."

Trump, June 2018: "They [Democrats] don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country"

Both time, President Trump was referring to MS-13..

If Trump... excuse me.. PRESIDENT Trump is so bad, why do you have to make shit up???

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122077 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:23:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122077 Liz Girl from the Bronx??? Not exactly.. <B>Girl from the Bronx' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who beat high-ranking Democrat Joe Crowley, faces questions over her 'working class' background after it's revealed she grew up in a wealthy suburb north of New York City Ocasio-Cortez, 28, won shock upset over 10-term Dem incumbent this month Primary win makes her a shoo-in for Congress in New York's liberal 14th District Avowed socialist describes her 'working class' upbringing in campaign bio Claims she made a 40-minute commute from the Bronx for better school as kid But her architect father bought house in wealthy Westchester County in 1991 Ocasio-Cortez went on to attend Boston University and interned for Ted Kennedy</B> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5905247/Girl-Bronx-Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-actually-grew-wealthy-Westchester-County.html She is as phony as a 3 dollar bill... Liz

Girl from the Bronx???

Not exactly..

Girl from the Bronx' Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who beat high-ranking Democrat Joe Crowley, faces questions over her 'working class' background after it's revealed she grew up in a wealthy suburb north of New York City

Ocasio-Cortez, 28, won shock upset over 10-term Dem incumbent this month

Primary win makes her a shoo-in for Congress in New York's liberal 14th District

Avowed socialist describes her 'working class' upbringing in campaign bio

Claims she made a 40-minute commute from the Bronx for better school as kid

But her architect father bought house in wealthy Westchester County in 1991

Ocasio-Cortez went on to attend Boston University and interned for Ted Kennedy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5905247/Girl-Bronx-Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-actually-grew-wealthy-Westchester-County.html

She is as phony as a 3 dollar bill...

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122076 neilm Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:23:32 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122076 BTW, do our Trump loving Weigentians agree that immigrants are "animals" that are "infesting" our country like vermin? Trump, May 2018: "These aren't people. These are animals." Trump, June 2018: "They [Democrats] don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country" BTW, do our Trump loving Weigentians agree that immigrants are "animals" that are "infesting" our country like vermin?

Trump, May 2018: "These aren't people. These are animals."

Trump, June 2018: "They [Democrats] don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country"

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122075 neilm Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:23:10 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122075 An interesting analysis of the impact of Trump's virulent anti-immigrant ranting on the 2016 election. Net net, keep it up Trump, you are making the Democrats' job easier! https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/opinion/trump-immigration-nativism-voters.html An interesting analysis of the impact of Trump's virulent anti-immigrant ranting on the 2016 election.

Net net, keep it up Trump, you are making the Democrats' job easier!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/opinion/trump-immigration-nativism-voters.html

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122074 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:18:46 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122074 <I>RH, if you can't put on big boy pants, I can't support you. No amount of circular reasoning/screaming/badmouthing on your part is going to change my mind. Get real, or be gone....actually I expect neither of those to happen. </I> Who is RH, Stig??? RH, if you can't put on big boy pants, I can't support you. No amount of circular reasoning/screaming/badmouthing on your part is going to change my mind. Get real, or be gone....actually I expect neither of those to happen.

Who is RH, Stig???

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122073 TheStig Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:14:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122073 neilm - 128,129 I think you offer DH some sound marketing advice and even some generous E-media support. Still, marketing is only part of a whole, working package. What is the product/service being marketed, and who are the intended clients? Is OD a matchmaker between low donation candidates and low donation voters? Or is OD a poison pill aimed at taking down politicians who accept more than $200 donations? That last point has a big influence on who the client base is likely to be. At what political levels will OD operate? National, State, County, Municipality? Does the limit change at lower levels? OD is supposed to register voters. How does it insure the voter data obtained is accurate and not padded with ghost voters? How does OD maintain data base security of personal info needed to keep the system honest? How does OD even know if its security is breached? Will OD sell data to defray costs? Who in the hell is "Ron Harris." I have no problems with nom de guerres on public blogs, if fact I think only fool goes for full public disclosure. However, when it comes to joining a political movement asking for money, I want to see the resumes of the movement leadership, I want to see the proposed leadership structure, and all the other things you would normally expect to see in a well crafted business plan. ********************************************** RH, if you can't put on big boy pants, I can't support you. No amount of circular reasoning/screaming/badmouthing on your part is going to change my mind. Get real, or be gone....actually I expect neither of those to happen. neilm - 128,129

I think you offer DH some sound marketing advice and even some generous E-media support. Still, marketing is only part of a whole, working package.

What is the product/service being marketed, and who are the intended clients? Is OD a matchmaker between low donation candidates and low donation voters? Or is OD a poison pill aimed at taking down politicians who accept more than $200 donations? That last point has a big influence on who the client base is likely to be.

At what political levels will OD operate? National, State, County, Municipality? Does the limit change at lower levels?

OD is supposed to register voters. How does it insure the voter data obtained is accurate and not padded with ghost voters? How does OD maintain data base security of personal info needed to keep the system honest? How does OD even know if its security is breached? Will OD sell data to defray costs?

Who in the hell is "Ron Harris." I have no problems with nom de guerres on public blogs, if fact I think only fool goes for full public disclosure. However, when it comes to joining a political movement asking for money, I want to see the resumes of the movement leadership, I want to see the proposed leadership structure, and all the other things you would normally expect to see in a well crafted business plan.

**********************************************

RH, if you can't put on big boy pants, I can't support you. No amount of circular reasoning/screaming/badmouthing on your part is going to change my mind. Get real, or be gone....actually I expect neither of those to happen.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122072 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:11:14 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122072 <B>WIGS OFF! Maxine Waters tears into Chuck Schumer: ‘Will do anything’ to protect power</B> http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wigs-off-maxine-waters-tears-into-chuck-schumer-will-do-anything-to-protect-power/ Ha! Blue on Blue!!! I love it!!! :D WIGS OFF! Maxine Waters tears into Chuck Schumer: ‘Will do anything’ to protect power
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wigs-off-maxine-waters-tears-into-chuck-schumer-will-do-anything-to-protect-power/

Ha!

Blue on Blue!!! I love it!!! :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122071 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:07:52 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122071 <I>your definition, as liz pointed out, is extremely narrow compared to hers.</I> Of course it is.. Because her definition is a utopian definition, not attached to reality.. your definition, as liz pointed out, is extremely narrow compared to hers.

Of course it is.. Because her definition is a utopian definition, not attached to reality..

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122070 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:07:19 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122070 <I>my point is that nationhood is determined by shared identity,</I> In the metaphysical sense, but not in the legal sense.. my point is that nationhood is determined by shared identity,

In the metaphysical sense, but not in the legal sense..

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122069 nypoet22 Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:56:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122069 my point is that nationhood is determined by shared identity, not land or borders. your definition, as liz pointed out, is extremely narrow compared to hers. my point is that nationhood is determined by shared identity, not land or borders. your definition, as liz pointed out, is extremely narrow compared to hers.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122068 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:53:15 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122068 <I>false. israel has been a nation a LOT longer than it's been a country. For almost two thousand years it had no land at all, much less controlled borders.</I> Not a "nation" in the sense we mean today... Israel has only been a "nation" since 1947, I believe?? And if you want to advocate an Israeli form of border security (walls and such) I whole heartedly agree.. :D false. israel has been a nation a LOT longer than it's been a country. For almost two thousand years it had no land at all, much less controlled borders.

Not a "nation" in the sense we mean today...

Israel has only been a "nation" since 1947, I believe??

And if you want to advocate an Israeli form of border security (walls and such) I whole heartedly agree.. :D

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122067 nypoet22 Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:41:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122067 <i>My view isn't narrow.. A nation that doesn't control it's borders ceases to be a nation....</i> false. israel has been a nation a LOT longer than it's been a country. For almost two thousand years it had no land at all, much less controlled borders. JL My view isn't narrow..

A nation that doesn't control it's borders ceases to be a nation....

false. israel has been a nation a LOT longer than it's been a country. For almost two thousand years it had no land at all, much less controlled borders.

JL

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122066 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:36:19 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122066 <I>Michale, do you think that secure borders and an open immigration and refugee policy are mutually exclusive?</I> For a country such as the US, absolutely... <I>By my narrow/broad assumption, I meant that on a scale of one to ten, on the question of how we see ourselves in this world, with 1 being a citizen of the planet and 10 being a citizen of a nation, I would be a one and you would be a 10!</I> Yes, because the kind of world government you want is not the same as the kind of world government I want.. I want a United Federation Of Planets world government.. Left Wingers want a V IS FOR VENDETTA type world government... Michale, do you think that secure borders and an open immigration and refugee policy are mutually exclusive?

For a country such as the US, absolutely...

By my narrow/broad assumption, I meant that on a scale of one to ten, on the question of how we see ourselves in this world, with 1 being a citizen of the planet and 10 being a citizen of a nation, I would be a one and you would be a 10!

Yes, because the kind of world government you want is not the same as the kind of world government I want..

I want a United Federation Of Planets world government..

Left Wingers want a V IS FOR VENDETTA type world government...

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122065 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:36:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122065 Resolved: A nation that espouses an open immigration and refugee policy while responsibly maintaining secure borders is a nation that is prosperous and always marching forward, on the cutting edge, so to speak. Resolved: A nation that espouses an open immigration and refugee policy while responsibly maintaining secure borders is a nation that is prosperous and always marching forward, on the cutting edge, so to speak.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122064 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:34:32 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122064 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0696717396031f669661a1bf35d86074fe703d6fd4f484a6a8ba9d38c20e7502.jpg?w=800&h=448 Yea.. There is no movement to Abolish ICE.. :D https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0696717396031f669661a1bf35d86074fe703d6fd4f484a6a8ba9d38c20e7502.jpg?w=800&h=448

Yea.. There is no movement to Abolish ICE.. :D

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122063 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:18:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122063 Michale, do you think that secure borders and an open immigration and refugee policy are mutually exclusive? Michale, do you think that secure borders and an open immigration and refugee policy are mutually exclusive?

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122062 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:16:41 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122062 By my narrow/broad assumption, I meant that on a scale of one to ten, on the question of how we see ourselves in this world, with 1 being a citizen of the planet and 10 being a citizen of a nation, I would be a one and you would be a 10! By my narrow/broad assumption, I meant that on a scale of one to ten, on the question of how we see ourselves in this world, with 1 being a citizen of the planet and 10 being a citizen of a nation, I would be a one and you would be a 10!

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122061 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:11:07 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122061 My view isn't narrow.. A nation that doesn't control it's borders ceases to be a nation.... My view isn't narrow..

A nation that doesn't control it's borders ceases to be a nation....

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122060 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:59:38 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122060 There are some very interesting points in that Guardian article but, nowhere in the piece did I read that any Democrat was in favour of "open boders". I think an interesting discussion to have (Hello, CW!) would be about what is meant by "open borders" and what an "open border" immigration and refugee policy would look like and whether it would tend toward eliminating illegal border crossings while maintaining effective border security. This is a complicated issue, Michale, and does not lend itself well to simplistic solutions that rely on only half truths. With respect to this issue, I might assume that you have an extremely narrow worldview while I have an extremely broad worldview. That will necessarily lead to a lot of disagreement on immigration and refugee policy but, it could also lead to an exchange of ideas that would enlighten both of us. There are some very interesting points in that Guardian article but, nowhere in the piece did I read that any Democrat was in favour of "open boders".

I think an interesting discussion to have (Hello, CW!) would be about what is meant by "open borders" and what an "open border" immigration and refugee policy would look like and whether it would tend toward eliminating illegal border crossings while maintaining effective border security.

This is a complicated issue, Michale, and does not lend itself well to simplistic solutions that rely on only half truths.

With respect to this issue, I might assume that you have an extremely narrow worldview while I have an extremely broad worldview. That will necessarily lead to a lot of disagreement on immigration and refugee policy but, it could also lead to an exchange of ideas that would enlighten both of us.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122059 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:57:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122059 <I>But, you're right ... greed has been the domain of the Republican party.</I> Yea, and Democrats aren't greedy at all?? :D Tell me another bedtime story.. :D But, you're right ... greed has been the domain of the Republican party.

Yea, and Democrats aren't greedy at all?? :D

Tell me another bedtime story.. :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122058 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:57:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122058 <B>But Democrats aren't helping make the distinction between outlandish political rhetoric and their actual positions when their left wing calls for abolishing the federal agency best known for deporting illegal immigrants. That's what new liberal darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did in her remarkable upset of 10-term Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.) this week. A few days later, one of Democrats' most prominent and influential voices, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), joined in.</B> You can deny it all you want, which indicates that you agree with me, that advocating the abolishment of ICE is a BAD move for Democrats.. But it's undeniable that Democrats *ARE* advocating to abolish ICE... But Democrats aren't helping make the distinction between outlandish political rhetoric and their actual positions when their left wing calls for abolishing the federal agency best known for deporting illegal immigrants. That's what new liberal darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did in her remarkable upset of 10-term Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.) this week. A few days later, one of Democrats' most prominent and influential voices, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), joined in.

You can deny it all you want, which indicates that you agree with me, that advocating the abolishment of ICE is a BAD move for Democrats..

But it's undeniable that Democrats *ARE* advocating to abolish ICE...

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122057 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:46:48 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122057 Michale, why do you ALWAYS comment about half the truth? Gillibrand is not calling for the abolition of ICE, full stop. She is calling for replacement or reform, just like AOC. Half the truth is just a good as a lie. Michale, why do you ALWAYS comment about half the truth?

Gillibrand is not calling for the abolition of ICE, full stop. She is calling for replacement or reform, just like AOC.

Half the truth is just a good as a lie.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122056 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:45:26 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122056 But, you're right ... greed has been the domain of the Republican party. But, you're right ... greed has been the domain of the Republican party.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122055 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:44:17 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122055 <I>What you describe is called UTOPIA and it's a fantasy...</I> No, it's called Canada, and it works pretty well for most. As I've said before, we have a very long way to go with respect to recognizing Aboriginal rights but, that's another comment thread, hopefully. <I>If people want a better life, let them earn it.. Society doesn't give anyone a free ride.. At least not for long..</I> I'm not talking about a "free ride" which is not what's happening, anyway. No one is asking anyone to sacrifice anything with respect to AOC's main message. You just need to find a little compassion for your fellow human being. What you describe is called UTOPIA and it's a fantasy...

No, it's called Canada, and it works pretty well for most. As I've said before, we have a very long way to go with respect to recognizing Aboriginal rights but, that's another comment thread, hopefully.

If people want a better life, let them earn it.. Society doesn't give anyone a free ride.. At least not for long..

I'm not talking about a "free ride" which is not what's happening, anyway.

No one is asking anyone to sacrifice anything with respect to AOC's main message.

You just need to find a little compassion for your fellow human being.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122054 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:43:54 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122054 <I>And, there is no Democrat or Democrat-Socialist that I know of who advocates "open borders"</I> <B>Why Kirsten Gillibrand and other Democrats’ calls to abolish ICE are politically risky</B> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/29/why-kirsten-gillibrand-and-other-democrats-calls-to-abolish-ice-are-politically-risky/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fe5ea4ed9c28 And, there is no Democrat or Democrat-Socialist that I know of who advocates "open borders"

Why Kirsten Gillibrand and other Democrats’ calls to abolish ICE are politically risky
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/29/why-kirsten-gillibrand-and-other-democrats-calls-to-abolish-ice-are-politically-risky/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fe5ea4ed9c28

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122053 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:24:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122053 <I>She doesn't believe in abolishing ICE without replacing it or reforming it. </I> Factually not accurate.. Her thinking is, if we have open borders, we don't NEED ICE... <I>And, there is no Democrat or Democrat-Socialist that I know of who advocates "open borders" or who is in favour of crime. Anyone who insists otherwise is wrong.</I> Factually not accurate.. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/16/democrats-immigration-policy-open-borders-dreamers <I>But, to answer your question, if those who do work and prosper wish to continue living in a modern, moral, compassionate and advancing country, then they should want everyone in the country to be able to live and be assisted in moving forward.</I> What you describe is called UTOPIA and it's a fantasy... Like many (if not all) of the Democrat Party platforms, it fails to take into account human nature.. For the one person who would be willing to sacrifice their lifestyle to raise another's lifestyle there are 4 more who will gut the one like a fish to take what they have.. That is the reality that Democrat Party theories ignore.. If people want a better life, let them earn it.. Society doesn't give anyone a free ride.. At least not for long.. It's really that simple.. She doesn't believe in abolishing ICE without replacing it or reforming it.

Factually not accurate.. Her thinking is, if we have open borders, we don't NEED ICE...

And, there is no Democrat or Democrat-Socialist that I know of who advocates "open borders" or who is in favour of crime. Anyone who insists otherwise is wrong.

Factually not accurate..

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/16/democrats-immigration-policy-open-borders-dreamers

But, to answer your question, if those who do work and prosper wish to continue living in a modern, moral, compassionate and advancing country, then they should want everyone in the country to be able to live and be assisted in moving forward.

What you describe is called UTOPIA and it's a fantasy...

Like many (if not all) of the Democrat Party platforms, it fails to take into account human nature..

For the one person who would be willing to sacrifice their lifestyle to raise another's lifestyle there are 4 more who will gut the one like a fish to take what they have..

That is the reality that Democrat Party theories ignore..

If people want a better life, let them earn it.. Society doesn't give anyone a free ride.. At least not for long..

It's really that simple..

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122050 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:41:30 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122050 <I>Why should those who DO work and DO prosper have to fund those who refuse to work and refuse to prosper??</I> First off, I think your premise is a gross overgeneralization. But, to answer your question, if those who do work and prosper wish to continue living in a modern, moral, compassionate and advancing country, then they should want everyone in the country to be able to live and be assisted in moving forward. Why should those who DO work and DO prosper have to fund those who refuse to work and refuse to prosper??

First off, I think your premise is a gross overgeneralization.

But, to answer your question, if those who do work and prosper wish to continue living in a modern, moral, compassionate and advancing country, then they should want everyone in the country to be able to live and be assisted in moving forward.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122049 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:35:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122049 Michale, She doesn't believe in abolishing ICE without replacing it or reforming it. But, ICE isn't really the problem - it's the Trump <b>immigration policies</b> that ICE is implementing. And, there is no Democrat or Democrat-Socialist that I know of who advocates "open borders" or who is in favour of crime. Anyone who insists otherwise is wrong. Michale,

She doesn't believe in abolishing ICE without replacing it or reforming it. But, ICE isn't really the problem - it's the Trump immigration policies that ICE is implementing.

And, there is no Democrat or Democrat-Socialist that I know of who advocates "open borders" or who is in favour of crime. Anyone who insists otherwise is wrong.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122048 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:35:19 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122048 <I>Well, I think that a Trump presidency, truncated or not, changes that calculus.</I> I would agree with that if the Trump presidency had been the blatant and obvious catastrophe ya'all predicted it would be.. But considering how well he has done (based on poll numbers oft times better than Obama's) it's very likely that a far Left approach is the absolute WORST thing the opposition can do.. Well, I think that a Trump presidency, truncated or not, changes that calculus.

I would agree with that if the Trump presidency had been the blatant and obvious catastrophe ya'all predicted it would be..

But considering how well he has done (based on poll numbers oft times better than Obama's) it's very likely that a far Left approach is the absolute WORST thing the opposition can do..

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122047 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:30:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122047 <I>Her ideas won't speak to the majority of the Democrat Party..If they would, then we would have President Bernie Sanders..</I> Well, I think that a Trump presidency, truncated or not, changes that calculus. Her ideas won't speak to the majority of the Democrat Party..If they would, then we would have President Bernie Sanders..

Well, I think that a Trump presidency, truncated or not, changes that calculus.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122046 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:29:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122046 <I>In a moral America and a modern and prosperous America no person should be too poor to live.</I> The problem is, there are those who CHOOSE to be "too poor to live" by their actions or there inactions.. Why should those who DO work and DO prosper have to fund those who refuse to work and refuse to prosper?? <I>You know what, Michale ... I think once you get to know AOC, you'd like her!</I> As long as she is advocating abolishing ICE and open borders, I can't see how I COULD like her.. Because both of those planks are immature, irresponsible and grossly unacceptable. Anyone who advocates such proves beyond any doubt that they are living in a fantasy world that has NO connection to reality.. In a moral America and a modern and prosperous America no person should be too poor to live.

The problem is, there are those who CHOOSE to be "too poor to live" by their actions or there inactions..

Why should those who DO work and DO prosper have to fund those who refuse to work and refuse to prosper??

You know what, Michale ... I think once you get to know AOC, you'd like her!

As long as she is advocating abolishing ICE and open borders, I can't see how I COULD like her..

Because both of those planks are immature, irresponsible and grossly unacceptable. Anyone who advocates such proves beyond any doubt that they are living in a fantasy world that has NO connection to reality..

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122045 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:22:07 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122045 <I>Did you hear what she said about Donald Trump? Do tell.. :D</I> Well, actually, she didn't really say anything about Donald Trump during the campaign. After her victory, she said, and I'm paraphrasing, Donald Trump is from Queens and I don't think he's ever run into a girl from the Bronx. :) You know what, Michale ... I think once you get to know AOC, you'd like her! Did you hear what she said about Donald Trump? Do tell.. :D

Well, actually, she didn't really say anything about Donald Trump during the campaign.

After her victory, she said, and I'm paraphrasing, Donald Trump is from Queens and I don't think he's ever run into a girl from the Bronx. :)

You know what, Michale ... I think once you get to know AOC, you'd like her!

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122044 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:19:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122044 Michale, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's message is brilliant in its resonance and its simplicity: In a moral America and a modern and prosperous America no person should be too poor to live. Everything flows from that. Michale,

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's message is brilliant in its resonance and its simplicity:

In a moral America and a modern and prosperous America no person should be too poor to live.

Everything flows from that.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122043 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:12:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122043 <I>While I think AOC put forward a great model for a Democratic campaign..</I> For the far Left/Progressive part, I agree.. But far Left/Progressive candidates rarely effect any real change.. <I>Did you hear what she said about Donald Trump?</I> Do tell.. :D While I think AOC put forward a great model for a Democratic campaign..

For the far Left/Progressive part, I agree..

But far Left/Progressive candidates rarely effect any real change..

Did you hear what she said about Donald Trump?

Do tell.. :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122042 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:06:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122042 <B>The Left Is Slipping into Terminal Irrelevance Well, last week was quite a week. For one side, a week of winning. For the other, a week of wailing. It will be no secret to regular readers that I am in the former camp. I think it is a good thing that so-called “public-sector unions” can no longer force non-union workers to pay dues. Indeed, like Franklin Delano Roosevelt, I think public-sector unions are an abomination that have no place in a free republic. They all-but-guarantee systematic corruption. As Daniel DiSalvo notes in Government Unions and the Bankrupting of America, such unions “extract dues from their members and funnel them into politicians’ campaign war chests, then those same politicians agree to generous contracts for public workers—which in turn leads to more union dues, more campaign spending, and so on. It is a cycle that has dominated the politics of some of America’s states with dire consequences.” Last week, the U.S. Supreme Court took an important step in breaking that vicious cycle. First Amendment Wins Last week was also a win for religious liberty and free speech. Henceforth, religious pregnancy counseling operations will no longer be required to post advisories informing clients that an abortion is just a quick trip to the local abattoir, a.k.a. Planned Parenthood. Then there was the decision upholding President Trump’s moratorium on travel to the United States from certain countries known to be hotbeds of terrorism. I am wholeheartedly with the majority on that one, too, partly because I think our government has a duty to be circumspect about whom it allows into the country, and partly because I dislike grandstanding district court judges who presume to usurp the president’s legitimate constitutional powers by issuing injunctions on a “nationwide basis” against properly formed executive orders. All of these decisions are important and, in my view, beneficent. But they were overshadowed by Justice Anthony Kennedy’s announcement that he was retiring. Although Kennedy sided with the majority on these three decisions, historically he has been a wild card, siding with the Left on Roe v. Wade and many other cases involving “social issues.” His retirement, in the context of the president’s promise to “appoint justices who, like Justice Scalia, will protect our liberty with the highest regard for the Constitution” sent the Left into a histrionic orgy of vituperation, paranoia, and rage.</B> https://amgreatness.com/2018/07/01/the-left-is-slipping-into-terminal-irrelevance/ Once again.. The Left's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week... A couple more like that and Dems won't bother showing up at the polls.. :D The Left Is Slipping into Terminal Irrelevance

Well, last week was quite a week. For one side, a week of winning. For the other, a week of wailing.

It will be no secret to regular readers that I am in the former camp. I think it is a good thing that so-called “public-sector unions” can no longer force non-union workers to pay dues. Indeed, like Franklin Delano Roosevelt, I think public-sector unions are an abomination that have no place in a free republic. They all-but-guarantee systematic corruption.

As Daniel DiSalvo notes in Government Unions and the Bankrupting of America, such unions “extract dues from their members and funnel them into politicians’ campaign war chests, then those same politicians agree to generous contracts for public workers—which in turn leads to more union dues, more campaign spending, and so on. It is a cycle that has dominated the politics of some of America’s states with dire consequences.” Last week, the U.S. Supreme Court took an important step in breaking that vicious cycle.

First Amendment Wins
Last week was also a win for religious liberty and free speech. Henceforth, religious pregnancy counseling operations will no longer be required to post advisories informing clients that an abortion is just a quick trip to the local abattoir, a.k.a. Planned Parenthood.

Then there was the decision upholding President Trump’s moratorium on travel to the United States from certain countries known to be hotbeds of terrorism. I am wholeheartedly with the majority on that one, too, partly because I think our government has a duty to be circumspect about whom it allows into the country, and partly because I dislike grandstanding district court judges who presume to usurp the president’s legitimate constitutional powers by issuing injunctions on a “nationwide basis” against properly formed executive orders.

All of these decisions are important and, in my view, beneficent. But they were overshadowed by Justice Anthony Kennedy’s announcement that he was retiring. Although Kennedy sided with the majority on these three decisions, historically he has been a wild card, siding with the Left on Roe v. Wade and many other cases involving “social issues.” His retirement, in the context of the president’s promise to “appoint justices who, like Justice Scalia, will protect our liberty with the highest regard for the Constitution” sent the Left into a histrionic orgy of vituperation, paranoia, and rage.
https://amgreatness.com/2018/07/01/the-left-is-slipping-into-terminal-irrelevance/

Once again.. The Left's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week...

A couple more like that and Dems won't bother showing up at the polls.. :D

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122041 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 14:01:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122041 Michale, While I think AOC put forward a great model for a Democratic campaign - even Don would agree, I believe - I would really like to see her visit FOX News as she makes her media stops. Mostly because I would really, really LOVE to see that interview. Did you hear what she said about Donald Trump? Michale,

While I think AOC put forward a great model for a Democratic campaign - even Don would agree, I believe - I would really like to see her visit FOX News as she makes her media stops.

Mostly because I would really, really LOVE to see that interview.

Did you hear what she said about Donald Trump?

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122040 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:59:58 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122040 <I>You don't know why she won, Michale.</I> She won because she spoke to the Far Left, which had an overwhelming majority in her district.. Her ideas won't speak to the majority of the Democrat Party.. If they would, then we would have President Bernie Sanders.. <I>Do you know what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's main message was?</I> Abolish ICE, Free College For All, etc etc etc... You don't know why she won, Michale.

She won because she spoke to the Far Left, which had an overwhelming majority in her district..

Her ideas won't speak to the majority of the Democrat Party..

If they would, then we would have President Bernie Sanders..

Do you know what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's main message was?

Abolish ICE, Free College For All, etc etc etc...

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122039 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:53:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122039 Michale, Do you know what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's main message was? Michale,

Do you know what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's main message was?

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122038 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:51:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122038 You don't know why she won, Michale. It's important to get out of our boxes from time to time and seek new reliable sources of information to challenge our predisposed understandings. Who knows ... you might actually change your opinion. And, wouldn't that be refreshing ... You don't know why she won, Michale.

It's important to get out of our boxes from time to time and seek new reliable sources of information to challenge our predisposed understandings.

Who knows ... you might actually change your opinion. And, wouldn't that be refreshing ...

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122037 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:49:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122037 <i>Or, alternativ4ely, 'If the sun begins to rise in the west.' We're talking about Mexico after all, are we not?</i> Word.... Or, alternativ4ely, 'If the sun begins to rise in the west.'

We're talking about Mexico after all, are we not?

Word....

]]> By: C. R. Stucki http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122036 C. R. Stucki Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:46:07 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122036 "If he figures out how to break the corrupt link . . ." Or, alternativ4ely, 'If the sun begins to rise in the west.' We're talking about Mexico after all, are we not? "If he figures out how to break the corrupt link . . ."

Or, alternativ4ely, 'If the sun begins to rise in the west.'

We're talking about Mexico after all, are we not?

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122035 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:18:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122035 <I> The libertarian sites I follow have lit up in excited horror, which is often a good sign because they tend to get everything wrong, especially when they go all doom and gloom.</I> Boy that sure sounds familiar.. :D The libertarian sites I follow have lit up in excited horror, which is often a good sign because they tend to get everything wrong, especially when they go all doom and gloom.

Boy that sure sounds familiar.. :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122034 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:15:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122034 <I>Be careful what you wish for, Michale. At ;east until you understand why she won. :)</I> She won for the exact same reason that Eric Cantor's primary opponent won.. Ideological purity over political reality.. Like I said.. I encourage all Democrats to follow Cortez.. :D Be careful what you wish for, Michale. At ;east until you understand why she won. :)

She won for the exact same reason that Eric Cantor's primary opponent won..

Ideological purity over political reality..

Like I said.. I encourage all Democrats to follow Cortez.. :D

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122033 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 13:04:55 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122033 <I>I honestly and truly, with all my heart, hope that Democrats follow your advice and emulate Cortez's ideology and campaign style..</I> Be careful what you wish for, Michale. At ;east until you understand why she won. :) I honestly and truly, with all my heart, hope that Democrats follow your advice and emulate Cortez's ideology and campaign style..

Be careful what you wish for, Michale. At ;east until you understand why she won. :)

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122031 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 11:27:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122031 <I>However if he figures out how to break the corrupt link between the authorities and the drug cartels,</I> And stays alive doing it... Good luck... However if he figures out how to break the corrupt link between the authorities and the drug cartels,

And stays alive doing it...

Good luck...

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122030 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 11:22:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122030 <B>A Lesson for Democrats From a Republican Dethroned by the Tea Party I was on Eric Cantor’s staff when he lost in 2014. The parallels to Joe Crowley’s loss aren’t exact. But they are there.</B> https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-lesson-for-democrats-from-a-republican-dethroned-by-the-tea-party?ref=wrap A cautionary tale for those who are giddy over the socialist's win over the #4 Democrat in Congress.. A Lesson for Democrats From a Republican Dethroned by the Tea Party
I was on Eric Cantor’s staff when he lost in 2014. The parallels to Joe Crowley’s loss aren’t exact. But they are there.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-lesson-for-democrats-from-a-republican-dethroned-by-the-tea-party?ref=wrap

A cautionary tale for those who are giddy over the socialist's win over the #4 Democrat in Congress..

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122029 neilm Mon, 02 Jul 2018 11:15:06 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122029 So AMLO won in Mexico. The libertarian sites I follow have lit up in excited horror, which is often a good sign because they tend to get everything wrong, especially when they go all doom and gloom. This time we'll need to wait and see. There is a lot of Trump in AMLO, and if he acts the clown like our idiot does then Mexico could be in trouble. Also, if he goes all in Chavez, Mexico is going to struggle. However if he figures out how to break the corrupt link between the authorities and the drug cartels, stays away from clowning around like Trump, and leaves the economy alone, but implements some affordable assistance to the most needy, he could be just what Mexico need. A fine tightrope to walk, but at least let us wish him the best at the start of his term. So AMLO won in Mexico. The libertarian sites I follow have lit up in excited horror, which is often a good sign because they tend to get everything wrong, especially when they go all doom and gloom.

This time we'll need to wait and see. There is a lot of Trump in AMLO, and if he acts the clown like our idiot does then Mexico could be in trouble. Also, if he goes all in Chavez, Mexico is going to struggle. However if he figures out how to break the corrupt link between the authorities and the drug cartels, stays away from clowning around like Trump, and leaves the economy alone, but implements some affordable assistance to the most needy, he could be just what Mexico need.

A fine tightrope to walk, but at least let us wish him the best at the start of his term.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122028 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 09:21:33 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122028 Liz, <I>And, one more thing ... if Democrats wish to win back the House and Senate and, in 2020, the WH, then they need to pay close attention to the successful primary campaign of one Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and understand why she won.</I> I honestly and truly, with all my heart, hope that Democrats follow your advice and emulate Cortez's ideology and campaign style.. Especially her call to abolish ICE and make the borders open.. ALL Demcorats should support those with every fiber of their being.. I mean that sincerely... :D Liz,

And, one more thing ... if Democrats wish to win back the House and Senate and, in 2020, the WH, then they need to pay close attention to the successful primary campaign of one Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and understand why she won.

I honestly and truly, with all my heart, hope that Democrats follow your advice and emulate Cortez's ideology and campaign style..

Especially her call to abolish ICE and make the borders open..

ALL Demcorats should support those with every fiber of their being..

I mean that sincerely... :D

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122027 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 09:18:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122027 Again I ask... If President Trump is so obviously god-awful, why are his poll numbers comparable to Odumbo's numbers at the same point in that administration?? If President Trump is so god-awful why does the Left have to create Fake News and bullshit to attack him?? The silence speaks volumes.. Again I ask...

If President Trump is so obviously god-awful, why are his poll numbers comparable to Odumbo's numbers at the same point in that administration??

If President Trump is so god-awful why does the Left have to create Fake News and bullshit to attack him??

The silence speaks volumes..

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122026 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 09:06:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122026 <I>Call me obtuse but, I still don't get it. Mostly because it doesn't make any sense.</I> I would never call you obtuse, but I think in this case you are intentionally missing the point.. Let me give you an example.. At the Parkland school, the Obama initiated a program to get felons who had served prison time back into the school system to get an education.. The politics in the area of the school were very pro Obama and no one in authority was willing to taint Obama's Social Justice pet project.. The Parkland shooter was part of that Social Justice program.. During the course of the program, the scumbag made MANY inferences to violence and school shootings etc etc.. Many kids had stated, in jest, that this scumbag was going to be the next school shooter.. All of that was ignored and/or papered over so as not to taint Obama's Social Justice program.. All of this is well-documented... This is but one example of the trend.. SJWs ignoring obvious and blatant warning signs because they don't want to be mean or they don't want to rock the boat... So, the logic is clear.. If warning signs are paid attention to and acted upon, we can stop school shootings and mass shootings.. And we don't even have to trample on Americans' Constitutional rights... It's a win win.. Except Democrats don't want a "win" like that because then they lose their SJW agenda.. Call me obtuse but, I still don't get it. Mostly because it doesn't make any sense.

I would never call you obtuse, but I think in this case you are intentionally missing the point..

Let me give you an example..

At the Parkland school, the Obama initiated a program to get felons who had served prison time back into the school system to get an education..

The politics in the area of the school were very pro Obama and no one in authority was willing to taint Obama's Social Justice pet project..

The Parkland shooter was part of that Social Justice program.. During the course of the program, the scumbag made MANY inferences to violence and school shootings etc etc.. Many kids had stated, in jest, that this scumbag was going to be the next school shooter..

All of that was ignored and/or papered over so as not to taint Obama's Social Justice program..

All of this is well-documented...

This is but one example of the trend.. SJWs ignoring obvious and blatant warning signs because they don't want to be mean or they don't want to rock the boat...

So, the logic is clear.. If warning signs are paid attention to and acted upon, we can stop school shootings and mass shootings..

And we don't even have to trample on Americans' Constitutional rights...

It's a win win..

Except Democrats don't want a "win" like that because then they lose their SJW agenda..

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122025 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 08:59:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122025 <I>You really think the "fine art of persuasion" is going to move the dial with the Trump supporters?</I> But, according to Kock, you don't NEED to move the dial with Trump supporters?? So, why even bother??? You really think the "fine art of persuasion" is going to move the dial with the Trump supporters?

But, according to Kock, you don't NEED to move the dial with Trump supporters??

So, why even bother???

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122023 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 08:58:33 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122023 <I>Look at Michale who went on a two week crusade trying to convince everybody that locking up toddlers is standard practice in America so we should be OK with it, and we are hypocrites for condemning Trump </I> Factually not accurate... No one should be "OK" with something like that.. But it IS necessary.. And the hypocrite part came in because your messiah Odumbo did the EXACT same thing and YOU SAID NOTHING... So, what is the ONLY logical conclusion?? That you are a hypocrite, you don't really care about putting toddlers or your head is so far up Odumbo's ass it's impossible to tell where you end and he starts... Or any combination thereof.. Look at Michale who went on a two week crusade trying to convince everybody that locking up toddlers is standard practice in America so we should be OK with it, and we are hypocrites for condemning Trump

Factually not accurate...

No one should be "OK" with something like that.. But it IS necessary..

And the hypocrite part came in because your messiah Odumbo did the EXACT same thing and YOU SAID NOTHING...

So, what is the ONLY logical conclusion??

That you are a hypocrite, you don't really care about putting toddlers or your head is so far up Odumbo's ass it's impossible to tell where you end and he starts...

Or any combination thereof..

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122022 Michale Mon, 02 Jul 2018 08:54:20 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122022 Balthy <I>And what 'mistake' did the Democrats make by nominating Hillary? Holding primaries? </I> Dood! You honestly call that a PRIMARY??? It was a coronation, nothing more.. <I>Michale [215]: Fact-free but broadcast ready!</I> Which facts do you dispute?? Balthy

And what 'mistake' did the Democrats make by nominating Hillary? Holding primaries?

Dood! You honestly call that a PRIMARY???

It was a coronation, nothing more..

Michale [215]: Fact-free but broadcast ready!

Which facts do you dispute??

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122020 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 06:32:52 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122020 And, one more thing ... if Democrats wish to win back the House and Senate and, in 2020, the WH, then they need to pay close attention to the successful primary campaign of one <b>Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez</b> and understand why she won. And, one more thing ... if Democrats wish to win back the House and Senate and, in 2020, the WH, then they need to pay close attention to the successful primary campaign of one Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and understand why she won.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122018 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:55:36 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122018 BTW, Neil, I'm in favour of angry protests, so long as they stay focused on the big picture. These protests can be a very good tool in waking up the majority. BTW, Neil, I'm in favour of angry protests, so long as they stay focused on the big picture.

These protests can be a very good tool in waking up the majority.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122017 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 05:49:48 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122017 <I>You really think the "fine art of persuasion" is going to move the dial with the Trump supporters?</I> Not most of them, just enough of the Trump voters. <I>Trying to make everybody calm about Trump is helping normalize him and his gang - agitating them so they show their true colors is essential.</I> Of course, that's not what I'm proposing - oh, I think their true colours are shining through well enough. Besides, Democrats will lose if they try to play Trump's game. <I>Look at Michale ... </I> Michale is a bad example - he's not representative of the voters I'm talking about. <I>We had mass marches in the streets yesterday in anger - do you think these folks would be protesting if they thought that if they were just a bit kinder and more understanding of Trump he would like them and realize he needed to listen to their concerns?</I> Once again, Neil, that is not what I'm talking about. Was my comment clear as mud? <I>It is time to wake up the majority, and the more extreme and outrageous Trump's crazies get, the more the majority is disgusted and angry.</I> Indeed. But, the track record on that is not good. Be careful not to put all your eggs in this basket. You really think the "fine art of persuasion" is going to move the dial with the Trump supporters?

Not most of them, just enough of the Trump voters.

Trying to make everybody calm about Trump is helping normalize him and his gang - agitating them so they show their true colors is essential.

Of course, that's not what I'm proposing - oh, I think their true colours are shining through well enough. Besides, Democrats will lose if they try to play Trump's game.

Look at Michale ...

Michale is a bad example - he's not representative of the voters I'm talking about.

We had mass marches in the streets yesterday in anger - do you think these folks would be protesting if they thought that if they were just a bit kinder and more understanding of Trump he would like them and realize he needed to listen to their concerns?

Once again, Neil, that is not what I'm talking about. Was my comment clear as mud?

It is time to wake up the majority, and the more extreme and outrageous Trump's crazies get, the more the majority is disgusted and angry.

Indeed.

But, the track record on that is not good. Be careful not to put all your eggs in this basket.

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122016 neilm Mon, 02 Jul 2018 04:55:14 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122016 <i>Whatever happened to the fine art of persuasion? It was lost with the ability to communicate.</i> You really think the "fine art of persuasion" is going to move the dial with the Trump supporters? The big takeaway from the last decade is that a motivated minority can out vote a lackadaisical majority. It is time to wake up the majority, and the more extreme and outrageous Trump's crazies get, the more the majority is disgusted and angry. Trying to make everybody calm about Trump is helping normalize him and his gang - agitating them so they show their true colors is essential. Look at Michale who went on a two week crusade trying to convince everybody that locking up toddlers is standard practice in America so we should be OK with it, and we are hypocrites for condemning Trump - all that did was anger everybody who decided that Trump and his enablers were lying again and that this was their mess and they weren't going to blame us for it. We had mass marches in the streets yesterday in anger - do you think these folks would be protesting if they thought that if they were just a bit kinder and more understanding of Trump he would like them and realize he needed to listen to their concerns? Whatever happened to the fine art of persuasion? It was lost with the ability to communicate.

You really think the "fine art of persuasion" is going to move the dial with the Trump supporters?

The big takeaway from the last decade is that a motivated minority can out vote a lackadaisical majority.

It is time to wake up the majority, and the more extreme and outrageous Trump's crazies get, the more the majority is disgusted and angry.

Trying to make everybody calm about Trump is helping normalize him and his gang - agitating them so they show their true colors is essential.

Look at Michale who went on a two week crusade trying to convince everybody that locking up toddlers is standard practice in America so we should be OK with it, and we are hypocrites for condemning Trump - all that did was anger everybody who decided that Trump and his enablers were lying again and that this was their mess and they weren't going to blame us for it.

We had mass marches in the streets yesterday in anger - do you think these folks would be protesting if they thought that if they were just a bit kinder and more understanding of Trump he would like them and realize he needed to listen to their concerns?

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122015 Elizabeth Miller Mon, 02 Jul 2018 04:42:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122015 <I>Knuckle draggers everywhere deserve a massive apology from the White House.</I> Now, this is just the kind of thinking that will ensure Democrats lose. It's never a good bet to insult an entire group of voters. Whatever happened to the fine art of persuasion? It was lost with the ability to communicate. Knuckle draggers everywhere deserve a massive apology from the White House.

Now, this is just the kind of thinking that will ensure Democrats lose.

It's never a good bet to insult an entire group of voters.

Whatever happened to the fine art of persuasion? It was lost with the ability to communicate.

]]> By: neilm http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/06/29/ftp490/#comment-122014 neilm Mon, 02 Jul 2018 04:37:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=15634#comment-122014 And don't get me going on the iPhone - a product that has made Apple the most valuable company on the planet. China adds a few dollars to the total cost of the phone but since they are the last stop in the supply chain before America, the whole import cost is attributed to them. Even though the screens, the high value electronics, and most importantly the software and design comes from other countries, Trump thinks that China is ripping us off. Knuckle draggers everywhere deserve a massive apology from the White House. And don't get me going on the iPhone - a product that has made Apple the most valuable company on the planet.

China adds a few dollars to the total cost of the phone but since they are the last stop in the supply chain before America, the whole import cost is attributed to them. Even though the screens, the high value electronics, and most importantly the software and design comes from other countries, Trump thinks that China is ripping us off.

Knuckle draggers everywhere deserve a massive apology from the White House.

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