Yes, by all means.. Click on it..

And, rest assured, I am admitting it.. :D

I made a mistake.. My sincerest apologies..

Do you REALLY want to leave me as the ONLY Founder here?? :D

I made a mistake.. My sincerest apologies..

As a movie quote, that was fairly funny... :D

But you should have noted it as such...

It still would have hurt, but I would have laughed it off then.. :D

OK, no harm no foul.. I rescind my comments..

Peace out...

Why so hypersensitive?

It's not hypersensitive when friends attack other friends..

It's... disappointing..

Will I have to start wondering if you're actually a girl?

:-)

What movie was that, anyway?

Lighten up!

That was beneath you, Liz....

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:D

13 Russian nationals
4 Trump advisors
1 London lawyer
and the guy selling fake IDs. :) *LOL*

And NONE of those have ANYTHING to do with President Trump or Collusion... :D

Once again, the FACTS clearly show that ya'all lost...

NO AMERICANS WERE KNOWINGLY INVOLVED

THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION WAS NOT AFFECTED IN ANY WAY

Ya'all's ONLY talking points for the year have just been rendered totally and unequivocally fact-less...

Take yer lumps, swallow yer egos and move on...

So, Jr exchanged emails with Russians..

So???

What part of NO AMERICANS WERE KNOWINGLY INVOLVED is unclear to you??

It's over, Balthy..

You are not going to get a Trump impeachment..

Really??? The noose is tightening.

By claiming that NO AMERICANS were knowingly involved??

How do you figure that??

"No wonder your president has to be an actor, he's gotta look good on television." - Doc Brown

Let’s look at reasons for why Reagan was the GOP’s choice to make into a legend:

* Nixon had pretty much killed the party’s reputation by associating it with being a bunch of “crooks”
* Reagan had been very popular at some points of his presidency, even if his popularity polls at the end weren’t that great
*He suffered from Alzheimer’s and died fairly soon after leaving office - both will get you big sympathy points from the public and who wants to talk bad about the dead (which is why it has taken decades before the public has finally been willing to talk about how not-so-great Reagan actually was!)
* Reagan’s presidency included major world events: the fall of the Berlin Wall, the start of the fall of the Soviet Union and the “end” of the Cold War, (most people associate Reagan with this, not G.H. Bush who was actually president when the Soviet Union collapsed), NASA’s space shuttle launches, etc.
*Reagan was President for almost all of the 80’s. We tend to separate society in this country in terms of what generation they are associated with. Reagan WAS the 80’s in most people’s minds.

Reagan made for the best candidate for the GOP to turn into a much needed party hero.

I guess I'll dust off my copy of "Every Day is Christmas" by Eric Idle as well.

Too late. Mueller CAN'T exonerate Junior since his email exchange with the Russians has been confirmed to be authentically transcribed by all parties:

Rob Goldstone: The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump- helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

Best
Rob Goldstone

Don Junior: Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

Best,
Don

And then they had a meeting with the 'government' lawyer from Russia, and a bunch of other Russians, and some top folks from the Trump campaign including Manafort and Kushner.

So if you freeze that scene, and include the email exchange with Don Junior that precedes it, you have an open-and-shut case of conspiracy to break campaign finance laws, and plain-as-day collusion with the Russian government, which even Steve Bannon likened to Treason.

And if any of them told Trump about it, or received his consent for it, then he to is a co-conspirator.
They would have us believe for the time being that this meeting with Russians arranged by his family in his building with his campaign manager and his son in law was never mentioned to him at all.

Even Mueller can't change those facts. They colluded, and we have proof.

Only a matter of time before they have to answer for it, too.

And yet, Mueller has completely exonerated the Trump family of ANY "shenanigans" with the Russians.. :D

Indictments are used to charge... NOT to exonerate. As I have said many times: There are indictments under seal and more coming.

INDICTMENTS: 19
GUILTY PLEAS: 4 (1 coming soon)

Sung to the tune of the 12 Days of Christmas

13 Russian nationals
4 Trump advisors
1 London lawyer
and the guy selling fake IDs. :) *LOL*

Really??? The noose is tightening. White House staff and Republicans, e.g., Devin Nunes, increasingly risk complicity in obstruction.

And yet, Mueller has completely exonerated the Trump family of ANY "shenanigans" with the Russians.. :D

"Reagan sent a balanced budget to a Dem congress suggesting more $ for defense, to be offset by welfare reform (fewer $ for the welfare queens)."

Yet it was Bill Clinton who got welfare reform through Congress, not Ronald Reagan. There is also no such thing as "welfare queens" and never was. That's just a convenient made up boogeyman, like Nixon administration officials admitting after the fact they targeted hippies and African Americans as scapegoats for their anti-marijuana campaign.

"The Dem Congress (which has sole control of spending) responded by boosting defense spending (they loved the defense jobs in their districts), but leaving welfare intact, and you describe the result as "Reagan having blown a hole in the deficit"!!

Perhaps that's the very sort of "Delusional Bubble" that explains the 'Reagan Reverance' phenomenon which you can't understand?"

Reagan DID blow a hole in the deficit with his first major tax cut and ill conceived following of Laffer and his economic myth. During the rest of his two terms Reagan then went on to sign FOUR major tax increases to try to get the deficit back under control.

So, you admit that Kennedy was as bad as you accuse Trump of being???

No, it wouldn't be, and if such an offer had become known back when it was made (allegedly), it would have ended Kennedy's career.

But if we should be outraged about a thirty year old story without a second source, where is the GOP outrage over the Trump family's shenanigans with the Russians?

Is this a 'do as I say, not as I do' moment?

ding ding ding!

Here's a timeline of the breakup: USSR fail timeline

Not only had Reagan been out of office 3 years before the USSR finally fell, The first brick of the Berlin wall fell on Bush's watch, and the Solidarity movement in Poland happened before even that.

Giving Reagan credit for all that is like awarding credit to James Buchanan for ending slavery in the south. After all, the Kansas-Nebraska Act was the first domino, all Lincoln did was mop up the inevitable mess it left behind.

Kennedy's message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. "The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations," the memorandum stated. "These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign."

I guess it's OK if DEMOCRATS collude with Russians.. :^/

heh...

"There is mimicry and there is mockery and THAT was definitely mockery!"
-Dr Leonard McCoy

:D

You say that (about the Soviet breakup) because you don't understand the time-line of the breakup. The Soviet Union was already a 'house of cards' goner when the first brick of the Berlin wall hit the ground in '89, not years later when the final speck of dust settled.

Your "Baby Bush" thing makes no sense. Do YOU get credit for "not constantly walking into doors"? (Or maybe you DO constantly walk into doors?) I don't follow.

TRANSLATION:

"Yep, there is no 'stupid' in there. I am a moron."
-NeilM

:D

You can read a sentence! Time for a lap of honor and a podium place on the "Right Wing Brainiacs" Olympics ;)

At a time when the Russians needed a government that they could depend on, Bush sent a bunch of free-market enthusiasts, including Grover Norquist, to advise the Russians on how to transition to democracy.

The team that Bush sent advised the Russians not to worry about regulating the marketplace - the 'invisible hand' of capitalism would do that, and not to levee taxes on the rich: that would just slow down the markets.

The result of the Russians taking that advice was that corrupt oligarchs took over the Russian economy, turning it into a haven for gangsterism.

Clinton tried to back-fill, encouraging the Russians to build institutions that would restrain and regulate, but by then the damage was done, and Putin instead rebuilt the Russian military intelligence complex, and then, once in office and President, used it to put himself at the top of the corruption pyramid.

This cautionary tale comes courtesy of George F. Will, who repeated it while discussing the GOP's current efforts to dismantle our own regulatory infrastructure here in the US.

Don't see the word "stupid" in there..

So, looks like you ARE stupid.. :D

I can't tell you how many hours I spent arguing this point with my Republicant friends.

The worst part of it, I think, is that poor Daddy Bush got rolled by his own friends on this one, receiving no credit at all for how he handled this dramatic change in world affairs that happened, after all, on HIS watch.

Sorta like baby Bush never got credit for not constantly walking into doors, as he was inclined to do.

Does your definition of "ignorance" stretch to "not able to understand"?

What is your point with that quote? Sounds like you belive I equate Dems/Libs being "economically ignorant" (i.e. lacking knowledge of principles of economics) with stupidity, right?

Maybe "ignorance" has a different meaning in Limeytalk, I wouldn't know. Otherwise, again, unjustified hypersensitivity, right?

Believe me, I am fully aware that the economically ignorant perceive my 'textbooky' lectures as something they cannot understand and don't really want to hear about, because they contradict personal concepts that the ignorant wish were reality. - CRS, 11/15/17

Sorry, I don't recall ever calling you or your Dem/Lib buddies stupid. - CRS, 2.20.18

Just a couple of reminders ...

Reagan sent a balanced budget to a Dem congress suggesting more $ for defense, to be offset by welfare reform (fewer $ for the welfare queens).

The Dem Congress (which has sole control of spending) responded by boosting defense spending (they loved the defense jobs in their districts), but leaving welfare intact, and you describe the result as "Reagan having blown a hole in the deficit"!!

Perhaps that's the very sort of "Delusional Bubble" that explains the 'Reagan Reverance' phenomenon which you can't understand?

Sorry, I don't recall ever calling you or your Dem/Lib buddies stupid. I may have somewhere characterized some misconceptions, misinterpretations, cockamamie concepts (things that are reflections of ignorance) as "stupid", but that's not the same as calling the person stupid.

Nor have I ever characterized myself as "intelligent". Perhaps something along the lines of "more knowledgeable" about a specific economic principle, or maybe "better informed", but never "more intelligent".

I'm guessing your doing your hypersensitivity routine again. Sorry if your tender feelings are so quick to take offense, but don't know how to help.

"Best H.O. money can buy!"
"Oh, you don't have to spell it out, Herb. They know what they are.."
-TWO AND A HALF MEN

:D

Whatever you have to tell yourself to make it thru your day and confirm your hysterical Party slavery :D

Yet when we ask for facts we get crickets or links to hysterical opinions.

You display no signs of ever having had deep expertise in any subject. You conflate your opinions and life experience with real knowledge and throw a patina of feel-good emotion on top.

Yes, that's your claim..

But I have all the facts on my side and you have nothing but hysterical delusions...

You hysterical NeverTrumpers are nothing but Russian pawns, helping to attack the United States..

Congrats... Morons...

No, most people are correct and factual and you are delusional and in a bubble.

You are miles away from reality on guns, climate science and the fact that 45 lies almost constantly. And this isn't my reality and everybody else thinks like you do. The vast, vast majority of humanity think you are in the wrong, yet you convince yourself you and a small cadre think only you can see clearly.

Who is in the bubble? You are Michale. And CRS is trying to troll us by encouraging you because he thinks he is clever.

Yes, I am catching on..

Everyone else is wrong and delusional, but YOU are correct and factual...

:D

The fact that you see nothing wrong with such an egotistically WRONG attitude is very telling...

Of course you can't accept reality - look how many times we have presented scientific studies to you based on decades if not centuries of accepted science and you assume it is left wing talking points.

You are lucky - when I try to comment in right wing web sites I get blocked within a day.

Try taking science to almost any right wing comment section and see if you get to hang around for years.

Don't blame me.. STIG said it..

So typical of you.....

You're catching on at last Michale. Do you ever notice that you continually have to make up "quotes" that "we'all" say so you can rail against them?

Sad.

Michale logic: 45 is part of a criminal enterprise engaged in fraud and money laundering with the Russian mob and it is the honest people's fault.

In other words, NEIL's delusions are facts and everyone else's FACTS are delusions.. :D

Like I said.. Party Slavery...

Well your frequent announcements that you are intelligent and everybody else here is stupid doesn't exactly put you on the medal podium of the open-mindedness Olympics.

Oh... But the fact that YA'ALL claim ya'all are the smart ones and everyone who disagrees with ya'all are the stupid ones doesn't affect ya'all's so-called "Open Mindedness" at all??

I wish you could step back away from your Party slavery and see how utterly corrupt you sound...

No. The right wing has created a bubble that acts as an echo chamber. I do't expect you to see it any more than I expect a fish to understand water.

Where do you see that "closed mindedness" in me? Perhaps in my unwillingness to honor bogus Dem/Lib economic analysis?

Well your frequent announcements that you are intelligent and everybody else here is stupid doesn't exactly put you on the medal podium of the open-mindedness Olympics. In fact I'd demand a drug test if this were South Korea.

Mueller charges attorney with deleting emails.

Oh the irony is just DRIPPING like Niagara Falls here...

And it's YOU hysterical Trumpers who are giving the Russians EXACTLY what they want..

Thanks for your confession that ya'all *ARE* working with the Russians..

I will use that often...

"If history is a guide, we are only at the start of the Mueller investigation..."

Yes, and Mueller was up and running very early in the Trump tenure. Plus, information technology advances. Searches are much more automated today. As I was just typing this, my speaker went "bing" and I got a short summary of Mueller's latest "find." Nixon was in the analog reel to reel tape age. When slide rules still ruled.

Trump seems to me a large, lumbering target with the cover of treeline far, far away.

I think Russia will be doubly delighted if Trump goes down in flames - I think they may even push this outcome by leaking clues when it suits them. "We made Trump, then we broke Trump. Dasvidaniya, MOFOs. We own you."

Yep... You're close-minded because you don't swallow the whole hysterical Dumbocrat Party line, hook line and sinker..

Reminds me of the charge of insanity in the old Soviet Union...

People who wanted to leave the Soviet Union were charged with insanity because ONLY THE INSANE would want to leave the paradise that is the Soviet Union...

In the here and now, you are close-minded if you don't swallow the totality of the Dumbocrat Party BS....

It's a self-fulfilling delusion...

Where do you see that "closed mindedness" in me? Perhaps in my unwillingness to honor bogus Dem/Lib economic analysis?

Could it be possible that the delusional bubble you perceive and I do not exists only in your fevered mind?

You are so sure you are right, and you frequently tell us how you are only here to carry the burden of bringing light to the ignorant - do you think your total closed mindedness might have something to do with your inability to hear the message?

I don't know - it is a mystery to me - the man was obviously a very mediocre president at best that was lucky enough to have a Democratic House for most of his term so sensible things happened on the home front, and Gorbachov's reforms revolutionized the old Soviet block (that the right gave Reagan credit for for Pete's sake).

Look at who is leading the charge to canonize Reagan at the moment: Grover Norquist - despite the fact that Reagan raised taxes to try to offset the hole he blew in the deficit.

The ability of the right to live an a delusional bubble is something I observe, but can't comprehend.

It does not surprise me that residents who are firmly inside the bubble can't even see it.

So, I'd be interested to have you tell us, what it is driving that "mass delusion" (Reagan deification) that continues to this day"?

That's an awful lot of delusion over a very long time span! You'd think in that much time, you Dems/Libs would have clarified for us where it is we've gone wrong, and we'd have recognized the error of our ways, right?

This re-branding effort continues today unabated: The Ronald Reagan Legacy Project, special project of Americans for Tax Reform and Chairman Grover Norquist, lobbyist and anti-tax activist.

But CW, you wrote an entire article about Ronald Reagan without including the term "genuflect"?! That is some kind of restraint you got there. ;)

An imperial presidency, a near constant state the of war, presidential libraries and demi-deified presidents should not exactly surprise. We were warned, by George!

My sincerest apologies...

THERE is proof positive of Russian Collusion...

Yet, you hysterical NeverTrumpers are completely silent about it..

Yep... Yep... Yep...

I expect that President Trump will be remembered as the first truly INDEPENDENT POTUS who wasn't beholden completely to either Party...

The current erse is also obviously even more deficient between the ears than Reagan, but unlike Reagan he has put himself center stage by continuously telling everybody that there was "no collusion" - even though he specifically asked the Russians to hack and distribute "Hillary's 30,000 emails" (what - he thinks we don't remember?)

If history is a guide, we are only at the start of the Mueller investigation (see chart below) and thus there will be more and more dirt, more and more denials, and less and less credibility when the real dirt about money laundering and RICO hits.

http://ritholtz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/atd-indictments-0216.png

But I think that the current clown might be overseeing the fall from high places for the right wing in this country. If so, the knives will be out for him from his own party. Let's face it, the people who are inflicting most harm on him are from his own party, and there is a pretender in the wings who is coming back on to center stage.

Also the right are watching America topple from the pinnacle on the World stage because of the ineptitude of the White House, and the right wing of the country has been the most jingoistic in the past - again they are going to look for a scapegoat when China's soft power exceeds ours (it already has in the South China Sea region - the abandonment of the TPP was a significant own goal).

Stupidity has consequences, but sadly the stupid don't understand those consequences.

So Chris, who might that have been? Was that specific individuals, or just the nameless millions who make up Hillary's "vast right-wing conspiracy"?

Hey, I'm betting it was the Russkies! I'll wager they started interfering in our elections clear back then, and it took us this long to catch on, right?

Sweet Jesus, maybe I'll have to re-think that "We're not really that stupid" thing from my previous post.

If the rumor is true, I certainly find that dismaying, but what I find far, far MORE dismaying is the concept that causes it to BE dismaying, meaning the belief that the American electorate is so stupid, so asinine, so gullible, so (fill in your own worst adjective) that something posted to 'social media' (aka collective insanity) could be as much as a meaningful, much less a a determining, factor in a U.S. presidential election!

I actually believe that we're NOT that stupid, but I'm saying if we really ARE that stupid, we deserve whatever we get.