Pence will be indicted while VP and not replaced.

Trump will no longer be in the White House by the end of 2018. He's more likely to resign than be impeached.

Mueller and his team will issue in excess of 60 indictments that will include holders of cabinet positions and members of congress (of both parties). This will affect the balance of power in both chambers.

Among congressmen indicted will be Dana Rohrabacher, Devin Nunes and Paul Ryan. Mitch McConnell will also be in trouble.

John McCain will not survive 2018.

Thad Cochran will retire citing deteriorating health. He'll be quietly replaced by an non-controversial republican appointed by the Mississippi governor.

Michele Bachmann will run for the senate and fail.

2018 will be a wave election for Democrats who will take both the House and the Senate.

How do YOU know???

Yer supposed to be blocking me..

Did ya'all's filters go bye bye?? :D

Trump claims he did not collude with the Russians.

Time to officially retire the words "collude" and "collusion" and replace them with "conspire" and "conspiracy." The proper word is "conspiracy."

Here, let me use it in an example sentence:

Paul Manafort has already been charged with conspiracy against the United States, and there are more indictments coming.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4163389-Manafort-Gates-Indictment-Filed-and-Redacted.html

See how easy that is, ladies and gentlemen?!

Evidently you missed where I said I'm a firm believer in global warming, or you are offended by the fact that I consider it of little consequence at the present time, based on personal experience.

I'd love to hear about your personal experiences, observations etc. that make you a believer, but I fear that your real reasons are ideological rather than meteorological, right?

Three guesses and the first two don't count.

You link to Blotus to make a point and the spigot replies that DT was WRONG then, but right now. And the thing is, it wouldn't matter if Blotus came out tonight and reversed himself again - it doesn't matter what Blotus says, anymore than it matters what the spigot says. They don't believe in accuracy or honesty. All they care about is "winning" in the moment and discrediting anyone outside the cult.

The spigot (and Stucki) aren't interested in exploring the concept of global warming, they only want to discredit it, and if they can't (which they can't through evidence) they want to discredit those who believe in it.

You can't "win" an argument with a troll by providing evidence or proof. Trolls like the spigot are exactly like Blotus: Blotus "wins" by getting away with being a liar and criminal. To date that's been because he has money -- he has been able to pay his way out of trouble -- he pays fines for money laundering instead of being jailed, for instance. Other times, because he has money, he could drag out court cases and wear out people who had legitimate claims against him but didn't have the deep pockets to hang in there against his legal dodges. Now as POTUS, Blotus gets away with crimes because the GOP is letting him, for their own utterly discreditable reasons. We can all hope he won't end his days without paying a real price for being a conman and traitor, but up til now money (and now the GOP) has always protected him from really suffering consequences for bad acts.

The spigot is exactly the same. He cheats in that he doesn't argue in good faith. He "wins" because he "get's away" with it and comes back the next day and some of you interact with him as though he isn't just a spigot for rightwing propaganda, who's purpose is to bait "liberals" and discredit Dems/non-Repubs, or interrupt discussions that make Blotus /GOP /Trumpers /Republicans look bad.

The adult thing to do is ignore him. The fun thing to do is mock him mercilessly -- and you've barely gotten started. Try it! You can make him cry UNCLE coz he's really a big baby. But you can't make him admit his arguments are incorrect, not factual, not consistent, etc. because none of that matters to him. All that matters to him is his refusal to give you the satisfaction of being "correct". And he has a Sean Hannity-approved bag of tricks he uses over and over and over again to ensure he dodges any efforts to hold him accountable for his bullshit comments, assertions and evasions.

And yet, things are great..

So, obviously President Trump was wrong in Sep of 2016..

Funny how you only want to believe Trump when he says what you want to hear.. :D

PTDS... Strong and true..

“The only thing that looks good is the stock market, but if you raise interest rates even a little bit, that’s going to come crashing down,” Mr. Trump said. “We are in a big, fat, ugly bubble.” - September 2016

(Note: we've raised interest rates more than "a little bit" since then, of course.)

Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night.

How can I be sad..

PRESIDENT TRUMP... :D

Michale: you've been looking in the wrong place for a doom prediction for the World economy - you should just have looked to your dear leader!

You can see him say it himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCB6RvRojIQ

And since you didn't disagree with him at the time, it proves you also think the same!

Must be sad to be you right now ;)

Facts to support??

No???

Of course not...

And yet, someone else did and YOU didn't comment.. That means, by ya'all's Charlottesville rule, you agree with it..

All I need is your confirmation and I'll prove you wrong..

I know it won't be forthcoming because I know you can't stand being proven wrong.. :D

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/01/17/guest-author-business-cycle-blues/

Reading the comments to see if anybody else predicted that he would, I found a nice little quote from you that I'm sure you'll be unhappy to remember:

Trump is just simply fantastic!!! :D Let's hope Trump has the wisdom and foresight to embrace the Border Adjustment.. As a businessman, Trump has stated he doesn't like the Border Adjustment..

As President, Trump would be a fool not to fall in love with the Border Adjustment...

Well it turns out we were both right. 45 is a fool. No border adjustment in the tax bill, because 45 didn't like it.

Apr 12, 2017 - U.S. President Donald Trump does not like the "border adjustment" tax cooked up by U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan and other Republicans in the House of Representatives. - Rueters

Humans Cause Global Warming my ass!!!

:D

Then no deal..

I am not going to research what I know to be a fact just sose you can weasel out of it like ya'all always do..

Ya'all established in Charlottesville that SILENCE GIVES ASSENT..

Yes or no?

I just have to quote 1 and show that NONE of ya'all said anything in disagreement.

OK, show us 1 quote then. At least that will be a start, even if I don't accept the rest of your argument.

Yea.. At least 40 whole seconds. :D

Please post a quote of every one of us who claimed that 45 would destroy the World economy.

I don't HAVE to quote all 20..

I just have to quote 1 and show that NONE of ya'all said anything in disagreement..

"What are you putting on shoes for!!?? You can't outrun a bear!!???"
"I don't have to outrun the bear!! I just have to outrun you!!!!"
-UP A CREEK

And, as ya'all established in Charlottesville, SILENCE GIVES ASSENT... :D

You lose.. :D

221. Snow is the product of humidity and cold, being a form of frozen water. If the level of water vapor in the air is too low, snow can't form. Humidity occurs at low temperatures as well as high ones. So no, snow does not require low humidity.

Hmmmm... In my snow making days, I always thought it did..

We're having temps tonight in the mid 30s with a mid 20s windchill, but 100% humidity...

I was hoping for snow, but thought the high humidity would nix it..

Thanx.. You at least gave me and mine hope.. :D

Thank you very much.. :D

Do you know the difference between "everybody (i.e. y'all)" and "somebody (i.e. not NO ONE)"?

If SOMEBODY said it and NOBODY refuted it, then EVERYBODY agreed with it.

That's the rule that YA'ALL established after Charlottesville...

You make the rules.. I just kick yer ass by them.. :D

Please post a quote of every one of us who claimed that 45 would destroy the World economy.

And yet, ya'all claimed that President Trump would destroy the WORLD economy??

Otherwise some of us might start to develop an inkling of doubt about your ability to deal in the real world of facts.

I mean, if you are right you should be able to pull 10 quotes almost instantly.

Prediction: crickets.

As neilm noted earlier, too, they will demand you go to great lengths to explain complex ideas that they will then reject out of hand, but if you don't go to great lengths to educate them they will accuse you of lack of expertise.

They do not argue in good faith, they aren't interested in learning. They are simply baiting you. Most, if not all, of their "arguments" are rote rightwing talking points -- that should be your clue to not take anything they say remotely seriously.

You CAN, of course. I wasted plenty of time previously on the rightwing spigot but I finally internalized how much of a waste it was. Stucki seems to be cut from the much the same cloth.

They lure you by dropping an occasional sane statement in with the muck and you think you're making headway. You aren't. They are just the pig you are wrestling, covering you with mud and enjoying it. (I mean no disrespect to pigs, but huge disrespect to rightwingers.)

They've been trained (by watching their propagandists in action) to employ a list of dodges and if you review argument streams you'll see them doing it. The make assertions they can't prove and then take assertions you make, and prove, and disregard your proof. They constantly move the goalpost. They engage in both-siderism and whataboutism to avoid acknowledging wrongdoing on the parts of their leaders/reps. When you beat them in an argument they insult you while refusing to acknowledge your point.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Hallelujah!!!! I am not alone anymore!!!! :D

Congratulations. We now have a total of "more than" four brain cells from the right wingery!

Now, if we can get a few hundred thousand more we will have enough brain cells for a jellyfish.

You must be so proud ;)

Oh you've got us all now!

Well that convinced me to throw out 150+ years of science from multiple disciplines. It made me realize the every major academy of science is wrong and some poorly educated bloggers on CW.com are the only reliable source for climate science.

I mean, cherry picking quotes to prove a puerile point is how science is advanced after all.

Well done guys!

2. Are you going to claim that NO ONE here said that Trump's election would be bad for the world economy???

Do you know the difference between "everybody (i.e. y'all)" and "somebody (i.e. not NO ONE)"?

Try to keep up with your own games.

Because if someone made the claim and YOU didn't refute it, then you agreed.. Because, as you Lefties have proven beyond ANY doubt, Silence DOES indeed, give assent.. :D

Exactly..

SOMEONE who actually has more than 2 brain cells to rub together or is not enslaved by Party dogma...

Hallelujah!!!! I am not alone anymore!!!! :D

Trumper.

Suspect in congressional shooting was Bernie Sanders supporter, strongly anti-Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homepage2/james-hodgkinson-profile/index.html

Dumbocrat........

For Dems/Libs, it appears warm stuff is global warming/climate, cold stuff is weather!

Otherwise we'd suspect you might be full of it Michale ;)

Are you going to claim that NO ONE here said that Trump's election would be bad for the world economy???

If that's your claim, state so.. Then I can prove you wrong.. :D

Name one...

Secondly, it isn't the accuracy of predictions that prove that anthropomorphic climate change is occurring, it is existing evidence.

Ahhhhhhhhh I get it now...

It's not that the bullshit claims are bullshit claims.. It's that the bullshit claims EXIST that proves things.. :D

So, you can make any bullshit claim you want, regardless of accuracy and the fact that you MAKE the bullshit claims PROVES that it's true...

And you say *I* live in a frak'ed up world??? :D

Happy New Year to you as well.. :D

Trumper.

Of course, this is caused by Global Warming.. :^/

Man you live in one desperate, screwed up World Michale.

Firstly, many predictions turned out to be accurate. Secondly, it isn't the accuracy of predictions that prove that anthropomorphic climate change is occurring, it is existing evidence.

But you retreat into your little fantasy world where reality is what you watch on Fox News or read on your bubble websites.

Oh, and Happy New Year :)

Nope.

Really? How about a link to prove it?

Otherwise we'd suspect you might be full of it Michale ;)

That's not just coincidence I peed on one of the park's glaciers!

Tourist information at an overlook is not peer reviewed science.

"glaciers had been receding slowly ever since the first white men saw them." Glaciers have been receding for 11,000 years. What disturbs is that this rate of glacial retreat has increased dramatically since 1950 and and coincides with a dramatic upward inflection in world wide use of fossil fuels - and a resulting spike in atmospheric CO2 - and coincidentally, your trip to the glacier.

http://www.seafriends.org.nz/issues/global/FFemissions.gif

And the southern ice cap is growing...

Even if ALL of the arctic ice melted, do you know how much of the sea level would be affected??

NONE.... ZERO... ZILCH... NADA.....

Except that it is shrinking, and at the current rate, will be completely gone in another 100 years.

It was supposed to be GONE 10 years ago...

NOW you make ANOTHER prediction... And if we could live til then, you would be WRONG again...

You are part of a con, JM...

"You are being conned on a global scale!!"
-Condor, BY DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT

All that THAT proves is Wikileaks had the data..

Doesn't prove ANYTHING about how they got it..

Why wouldn't the DNC let the FBI forensically analyze the server to confirm hacking took place???

Do you have a logical answer for that???

No??? Didn't think so...

I'm well aware that coal burning began in Europe before any white men ever arrived in Glacier NP. I'm also aware that the coal you refer to was being dug by a human lying on his belly underground swinging a short-handled pick, and then being loaded into a wheelbarrow to be hauled to the surface and be carried away in a horse-drawn wagon.

I also feel safe in guessing that all the coal burned in Europe for the first 200 yrs of coal burning would not equal the volume of coal extracted from a modern strip mine and burned in a modern coal-fired power plant in a single week, so let's keep things in perspective in that discussion.

Yea, that's what happens when you try to push a political agenda over facts and reality...

Case in point:

Gee, it's cold in winter in one spot on Earth, therefore global warming doesn't exist.

You mean, like when you people applauded Obama when he said that glaciers melting in the summer is proof positive of Global Warming..

You mean like that???

Humans are causing the climate to change

And yet EVERY model or prediction you have said to try and PROVE this has been WRONG WRONG IMPRESSIVELY WRONG...

How is that???

I can only conclude that your ignorance and avoidance is willful and deliberate.

And I can only conclude your continued support of this fantasy is due to Party slavery...

Neil Degrasse Tyson has great analogy. Climate is a man walking along a narrow path. Weather is his dog on a long leash.

All BS aside....

Can you explain why Humans Case Global Warming proponents try to equate weather with climate when it suits their agenda to do so???

"Over 85% of the nation is below freezing, and nearly 1/3 is below 0 deg. F. The forecast is for cold air to continue to flow down out of Canada into the central and eastern U.S. for most of the coming week.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2018/01/u-s-average-temperature-plummets-to-11-deg-f/

Yea.. Global WARMING... :^/"

And that right there is Michale's utter stupidity on full display.

Gee, it's cold in winter in one spot on Earth, therefore global warming doesn't exist. Totally ignoring everything else that was said about all the rest of the world being warmer than normal at the same time, and well as about the variability of local weather and local weather and climate over time not being the same thing.

"3.) As Elizabeth also said, no one disputes that the climate has changed even when man was not around. But we have proof that in all of geologic history that we can measure, it has never changed as fast in as short a time as it is now doing.

Ok, then quit saying that humans are causing climate change...

It makes you sound like a damn fool..."

Michale, how you can read something and totally miss what is actually said makes you look so incredibly stupid. You're the one who looks like a damn fool.

Humans are causing the climate to change because it is changing now more rapidly and to a larger extent than any natural forces can account for as evidence by past history, where the climate changed only due to natural forces, but slowly and in small steps at a time. Not rapidly and in huge leaps that we are seeing now.

I can only conclude that your ignorance and avoidance is willful and deliberate.

"yes, hacking is illegal under the computer fraud and abuse act (CFAA)

And yet, there is absolutely NO FACTS that prove hacking occurred..."

And yet, what is an admission my Wikileaks itself if not proof???

"Yea!! The polar ice caps will melt!!

Oh wait.. No, that hasn't happened.."

Except that it has. The north polar cap is melting.

"But!!! But!!! Polar bears will die off!!!!

Darn!! Polar bear populations are flourishing.."

Except that they are not. Or did you not see the recently widely published photo of a young polar bear male dying of starvation on Canada's Baffin Island?

"OH!! OH!!!! Killamanjaro will lose it's snow cap!!!!

Crap!!! THAT hasn't happened either!!!"

Except that it is shrinking, and at the current rate, will be completely gone in another 100 years.

Why do you constantly lie about things Michale???

"Really??

And yet, ya'all claimed that President Trump would destroy the WORLD economy??"

You do realize that the performance of the stock market, which is what Neil is talking about, and the paychecks ordinary Americans get, are two separate things right?

After all, it took Bush at least 3 years before he totally wrecked the economy. But, since you are so fond of saying how much better Trump is, who knows? Maybe Trump can destroy it in a shorter time!

"Interestingly enough, the glaciers in Glacier Nat'l park for instance, have been receding slowly ever since the first white men saw them going on 200 yrs ago, FAR earlier than the burning of fossil fuels in modern quantities could possible account for."

Coal first started coming into widespread use in 1690, and by the time of the American revolution in the 1770's, the industrial revolution in Europe was in full swing. So fossil fuels were being used before the glaciers were discovered.

Which is fine for your local area only. Hopefully that won't change. But it doesn't mean its great for the rest of the world. An arid area that relies on snow pack for its drinking water, might not be so great another 20 to 25 years from now if temperatures continue to rise and you are still around.

I visited Glacier Nat'l Park with my family as a 15 yr-old in the '50's. The Park Service tourist information signs at all of the tourist overlook points made the claim that the glaciers had been receding slowly ever since the first white men saw them.

You're right, that ain't exactly scientific proof, but the photo arrays beginning well before the mass burning of fossil fuels at modern levels, are damn tough to dispute.

The filter reports each post. I can switch the comment blocker on or off. Sometimes, in the context of other comments referencing you, I switch you on, for a tic.

Happy New Year.

"isn't weather how climate manifests itself?"

It is more like:

"weather is how climate manifests itself AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT"

It's all about partitioning of variance. Climate is the meteorological variance you can explain with an underlying model. Weather is the remaining random variance you report, but can't explain.

Neil Degrasse Tyson has great analogy. Climate is a man walking along a narrow path. Weather is his dog on a long leash.

Yer filter broken, TS???? :D

So... Anything un-sourced is "bullshit"....

Then 95% of EVERYTHING ya'all spew is "bullshit"...

OK... If that's your argument, then ya and I are in complete agreement...

We actually agree... Welcome to the new year!!! :D

"Interestingly enough, the glaciers in Glacier Nat'l park for instance, have been receding slowly ever since the first white men saw them going on 200 yrs ago, FAR earlier than the burning of fossil fuels in modern quantities could possible account for."

Can ya'all explain that???

The most parsimonious explanation is the above quote is bullshit. Stucki gave no source for the information. According to the Glacier Nat Park website, the first Europeans (fur trappers) didn't reach the area until the early 1800's (Lewis and Clark missed it by 50 miles) and European settlement was spotty until rail heads were established in 1891. Systematic,real time, monitoring of the glaciers started in the 1980s, evidence of glacial retreat in the industrial era is limited to photographic sequences dating back to the late 1930s.

Trumpers.

So, we're back to this...

2017 Las Vegas shooting

The incident is the deadliest mass shooting committed by an individual in the United States. The shooting reignited the debate about gun laws in the U.S., with attention focused on bump fire stocks, which Paddock used to allow his semi-automatic rifles to fire at a rate similar to that of a fully automatic weapon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

Dumbocrats.. :^/

Sad... Just sad.....

Just a heads up.. Wordpress still pukes when you put up NRO web addresses...

Seven months after throwing Carter Page as fuel on the collusion fire lit by then-FBI director James Comey’s stunning public disclosure that the Bureau was investigating possible Trump campaign “coordination” in Russia’s election meddling, the Gray Lady now says: Never mind. We’re onto Collusion 2.0, in which it is George Papadopoulos — then a 28-year-old whose idea of résumé enhancement was to feign participation in the Model U.N. — who triggered the FBI’s massive probe by . . . wait for it . . . a night of boozy blather in London.
https://tinyurl.com/y86b8w24

More bullshit from the Leftist MSM that ya'all bought into, SOLELY because it was what you wanted to hear..

"I {believed} all the stuff in the bible! Even the stuff that contradicted all the other stuff!!"
-Ned Flanders

Seven months after throwing Carter Page as fuel on the collusion fire lit by then-FBI director James Comey’s stunning public disclosure that the Bureau was investigating possible Trump campaign “coordination” in Russia’s election meddling, the Gray Lady now says: Never mind. We’re onto Collusion 2.0, in which it is George Papadopoulos — then a 28-year-old whose idea of résumé enhancement was to feign participation in the Model U.N. — who triggered the FBI’s massive probe by . . . wait for it . . . a night of boozy blather in London.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455036/new-york-times-trump-russia-collusion-narrative-reset-george-papadopoulos-carter-page

More bullshit from the Leftist MSM that ya'all bought into, SOLELY because it was what you wanted to hear..

"I {believed} all the stuff in the bible! Even the stuff that contradicted all the other stuff!!"
-Ned Flanders

Yea.. Global WARMING... :^/

You mean, like ya'all are with Trump supporters???

But, to be fair, at least Democrats aren't running around gunning down Trump supporters in Congress..

Oh.... Wait....

You, so far, haven't explained anything. You are either too aloof and just cast us all as the ignorant great unwashed who are beneath you:

You mean, like ya'all are with Trump supporters???

"Physician, stuff thyself."
-Captain James T Kirk, STAR TREK, My Enemy, My Ally

:D

BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But it's a DATA point that disproves your theory..

It's a data point that ya'all ignore..

And there are HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS of those data points that disprove the theory and that ya'all ignore..

THAT'S why you can't claim "SCIENCE" because you only accept the science that supports yer theory and you ignore the science that DOESN'T support your theory...

That's not SCIENCE... THAT is politics..

They are data points that are not particularly conclusive in any direction, however they tend to lean towards the global warming theory

OMG how "scientific"...

As old as I am, I still remember my high school science..

No where in my science books did I see the scientific measurement called "leans to"...

Care to elaborate??? :D

Can ya'all explain that???

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That's what happens when FACTS and reality collide with ya'all's hysterical Humans Cause Global Warming religion....

Michale can laugh all he wants to about Global warming,

And I laugh a LOT because ya'all are so damn hysterical about it.. :D

but that does not make him and everyone else who thinks like him correct.

It doesn't make us wrong either..

In fact just the opposite. He and the rest will have to learn the hard way, unfortunately for the rest of us.

And the FACT that the hysterical Humans Cause Global Warming fanatics have been WRONG... WRONG... WRONG on EVERY model, on EVERY prediction means nothing to you???

That's what results from Americans putting down real scientific education.

If you can't understand that being WRONG ***ALL*** of the time proves yer theory is crap.....

Well, I could get a refund on your "real scientific education"...

I'm just sayin....

Yep.. The hystericals ignore all the POSITIVE effects of Global Warming, of which there are MANY, because only the scaremongering puts money in the con artists pockets..

In other words....

"If you ever see anything doesn't make sense or contradicts an earlier event.... A wizard did it.."
-Lucy Lawless, THE SIMPSONS

Ok, then quit saying that humans are causing climate change...

It makes you sound like a damn fool...

And yet, there is absolutely NO FACTS that prove hacking occurred...

Funny how that is, eh?? I mean, according to ya'all it was so blatant and obvious, yet there is not a SINGLE fact that proves it..

"I just find that really funny... But ya'all ain't laughin..."
-Will Smith, MEN IN BLACK

Yea!! The polar ice caps will melt!!

Oh wait.. No, that hasn't happened..

But!!! But!!! Polar bears will die off!!!!

Darn!! Polar bear populations are flourishing..

OH!! OH!!!! Killamanjaro will lose it's snow cap!!!!

Crap!!! THAT hasn't happened either!!!

WAIT!!!! Snow will be virtually non-existent that children won't know what snow is!!!!

DAMN!!! That's bullshit too...

Well, gee whiz... What prediction HAS come true!!!???

Oh, that's right... Scammers and liars have made BILLIONS of dollars off the Humans Cause Global Warming scaremongering..

So, there is that....

What do you think caused "global warming" the millions of times it happened before humans appeared on the scene? Maybe dinosaur farts back in that time, but they've been gone for quite a while???

And THAT's the question they cannot answer..

Because the answer PROVES the utter lack of credibility of their pet theory...

The planet has warmed considerably over the course of 4 billion years caused by a variety of factors..

But NOW.... NOW it *HAS* to be humans that are causing the warming...

Their Humans Cause Global Warming religion demands blind obedience...

Re "anybody . . can look at climate data . . and see there is a rise in global temperatures . . ."

Yea, but ONLY after the temps were adjusted and tweaked to show that rise...

Real science is adjusting to theory to fit the data..

Humans Cause Global Warming fanatics adjust the data to fit the theory...

That's not science.. That politics...

Climate change is a serious challenge affecting all life on planet earth.

You DO know that the planet's climate was changing even when there weren't humans around, right???

What caused the climate to change then???

Asinine comments like [125] have no place on a reality-based political blog.

TRANSLATION: TOE THE FRAKIN' LINE OR SHUT THE FRAK UP!!!

If climate change is too complicated an issue, then perhaps a move toward clean, renewable energy and away from fossil fuels may be an easier topic to discuss.

Fine.. When the technology gets to the point where wide-spread deployment is possible and can feasibly and economically replace fossil fuels, then we can discuss the topic..

Until such time, discussion of that JETSONS technology has no place in a reality-based forum..

ppppppppffffffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttttttt :D

Thank you.. :D It happens every now and again.. :D

It seems that global warming is the most versatile phenomenon anybody ever heard of. Global warming causes warming, cooling, floods, droughts, hurricanes, feasts, famines, rising prices, falling prices, baldness, AIDS, and sexual disfunction. In fact there is absolutely NOTHING BAD, and only a little good, that is not being blamed on "global warming".

"I know, right!??"
-Felix, WRECK IT RALPH

Yep.. It's AMAZING that ANYTHING can be blamed on Global Warming..

Just like ANYTHING can be blamed on "God's Will"...

Watch this:

"Hurricane Irma. It's Global Warming"
-Humans Cause Global Warming Fanatic

"Hurricane Irma. It's God's Will"
-Religious Fanatic

You see how similar... how EERILY similar.. those two are??

"Fascinating"
-Spock

Who knows - the world doesn't work like that. Most of the money I made in 2017 was in international and emerging markets - so nothing to do with the White House.

Really??

And yet, ya'all claimed that President Trump would destroy the WORLD economy??

But now that yer international investments are doing well, NOW you claim that President Trump has "nothing to do" with it..

Do you see how your PTDS is manifesting itself?? :D

Most of the sources state that the decline began in 1910 and recently the losses have started accelerating:

"Farge said glaciers started to shrink from around 1910 and then entered “rapid and continual” melting from the 1970s onwards. The environmental conditions now experienced in the region are a marked departure from historical norms."

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/may/11/us-glacier-national-park-is-losing-its-glaciers-with-just-26-of-150-left

The point is that this is one data point. These glaciers exist south of Paris, for Pete's sake, as do the Alpine glaciers. They are data points that are not particularly conclusive in any direction, however they tend to lean towards the global warming theory - at least far more than any denier theory I've seen.

Source? Who was doing longitudinal surveys 200 yrs ago?

Oddly enough I had a nice lunch. Well, so much for World hunger.

Re your [159] no.1

Interestingly enough, the glaciers in Glacier Nat'l park for instance, have been receding slowly ever since the first white men saw them going on 200 yrs ago, FAR earlier than the burning of fossil fuels in modern quantities could possible account for.

- CRS today, 18:10 PST

Have you so quickly forgotten:

"Can you actually define what a CDS actually is?" - CRS 12/29

"Still waiting!" - CRS 12/29 (No impatience here, eh?)

Oh for Pete's sake, I worked with the software that valued the damn things. They are a simple vehicle to transfer risk. - Neil 12/twenty-fucking-nine!

You, so far, haven't explained anything. You are either too aloof and just cast us all as the ignorant great unwashed who are beneath you:

For those whose only knowledge of the financial crisis comes from fellow Dems/Libs who themselves are totally ignorant of everything about it beyond the fact that all bankers are greedy Rep bastards, or who got it from watching "The Big Short", I'd heartily recommend that you forget the movie and read the actual book.

Get over yourself.

Yup, your a denier. You're the "nobody can really know" denier. Seen them. Bored.

Oddly enough, when it comes to other things, they tend to be experts who rely on "proven" theories only they clearly understand, and that even Nobel Prize winners in their own field and expertise are wrong.

The Dunning-Krugers runs strong in this one.

CDS's are not the least bit complex, and "concepts like tranches,leverage and risk pooling" are not even necessary to explain the basics.

[159] 1. yes, and far longer. 2. yes 3. I've no way to know that. 4., 5., and 6. see 3.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/22/5086/#4e83bcbf92f1

I presented at the Yale Club with Barry Ritholz in 2009 and we talked about risk and pricing as well as some of the issues raised in his book "Bailout Nation". The book is worth reading and so are his Washington Post articles that are mentioned in the Forbes article.

So an unwillingness to educate you is proof of lack of understanding?

Go read some books if you want educated - these are pretty complex instruments and I'm not spending 30 minutes of typing explaining basic terms and concepts like tranches, leverage, risk pooling, etc.

Despite anything you all may have inferred, I am NOT a global-warming denier. - CRS 16:09 today

Let's just lay this to rest. Yes/no answers only please - we will get into explanations later if needed:

1. Do you accept that temperatures have been warming over the last 50 years?

2. Do you accept that CO2 concentrations have been rising over the last 50 years?

3. Do you accept that, with the exception of the increase in CO2 levels, all other forcing factors combined do not explain the rise in temperatures we have witnessed?

4. Do you accept that therefore the strongest driver of the current incidence of global warming is the increase in CO2 concentrations?

5. Do you accept that human activity has been the major factor driving the increase in CO2 concentrations?

6. Do you accept that human activity has been the major cause of global warming over the last 50 years?

What technical aspects don't I grasp?

Yeah, I went to the link somebody posted and saw the list of the "many caught and prosecuted". As I recall, it was 4 or 5, some of 'em kids!!

It was an unexpected disappointment to me that you didn't seem to have a grasp of the technical aspects of financial derivatives and their effect on the 'great recession', but your response to our discussion of the true nature of inflation and its relation to expansion of the money supply pretty much causes me to write you off as anything other than a run-of-the mill Dem/Lib blogger. (Not that that's a bad thing, but I had higher hopes, there being so DAMN few people with even a basic grasp of the laws and principles of economics.)

many cyber-criminals are caught and prosecuted for their crimes. if what you meant to ask was why so many get away with their crimes, it's probably because many of the criminals are able to commit their crimes remotely from foreign countries or masked addresses, outside the ability of authorities to investigate or extradite.

JL

Despite anything you all may have inferred, I am NOT a global-warming denier.

For well over 60 of my well over 80 yrs, I have been an avid gardener. During that time, I have personally witnessed global warming. 50 - 60 yrs ago, where I live (40 Deg N latitude, 4500 ft elev.), people would not normally plant tender crops before the 3rd wk of May, and the first frost nearly always arrived between 9-1 and 9-10.

Nothing much has changed for the spring, still 3rd wk of May, and my apricot blossoms always have and still do freeze 4 yrs out of 5, but our first frost has moved into early Oct, which gives me an extra 3 wks of vine-ripened tomatoes, something that does not upset me in the slightest.

We're arid to semi-arid (avg. 12 - 15 in. annual precip, almost all as snow) which has not changed in 60 plus yrs. We did occasionally go below zero for a few days mid-winter up until about 20 yrs ago, but almost never do lately.

That is the extent of global warming for me and my neighbors, and if you think I'm about to happily quit heating my home with natural gas or fueling my car with petroleum distillate in order to not have to suffer through those extra 3 wks of vine-ripened tomatoes, you're all out of your phuqueing minds. I LOVE global warming!

Science can be a real problem for the establishment.

Evolution is a headache for the Religious establishment.

Global Warming is an existential crisis for the Fossil Fuel establishment.

Lung Cancer is a problem for the Tobacco establishment, gun violence statistics are a disaster for the Arms establishment.

What does the establishment do when faced with something that they don't like? They try to create a false reality where the problem doesn't exist, and buy politicians to support this false reality, with snowballs on the Senate floor, if that is what it takes!

The establishment can only pull this off with poorly informed sheep who are given tidy little stories to make it easy for them (all Libs/Dems are dumb, so anything they support must be wrong, and everybody hates Al Gore and Hillary anyway).

This is why they fear education - independent thinkers are the biggest problem any establishment faces. We used to be a nation that celebrated individual thinkers, but the money establishment coupled up with the persuasion establishment and the political establishment and independent thinkers are the enemy to be vilified and eliminated.

CRS seems just an unwitting foot soldier. Michale is exercising his personal insecurity demons with gloating to make him feel better.

The forces of progression are not guaranteed to win, but we've had a good run for 400 years and I'm not counting our cause out yet, particularly when the leader of the anti-progressive causes is such a weak-minded perpetual liar.

Get out the popcorn and watch decency and reason steamroll slowly over petty fear of the future. It isn't always going to be forward steps, but ask yourself these questions:

1. 50 years ago, would you have thought we'd already have had two full terms from a black President?

2. 40 years ago would you have thought that Marijuana would be legal in much of the U.S.?

3. 30 years ago would you have thought that Communism would have been confined to small pockets of humanity, and that even China and Russia would have dumped it (either explicitly or, in the case of China, de facto)?

4. 20 years ago would you have predicted that gay marriage would be the law of the land via the SCOTUS?

5. 10 years ago would you have predicted that Apple would be the #1 company in the World closing in on a $1T valuation?