Comments on: Forty-Nine Sister States All Had Alabama In Their Eyes

By: Michale

Michale — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:55:39 +0000

I'm sure there is a better word than moron to describe a person who doesn't not right from wrong and requires instruction to avoid engaging in very bad behavior.

So, you are saying that sexual relations = "very bad behavior"???

Now I am REALLY confused...

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By: Michale

Michale — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:44:38 +0000

It's really simple..

Anyone who is going to engage in sexual activity has the right of refusal..

But with that right comes the RESPONSIBILITY of actually ARTICULATING that refusal..

You can't remain silent to hedge your bets on whether or not you want to scream RAPE after the fact...

Which HAS been known to happen..

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By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:19:38 +0000

I'm done here.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:19:20 +0000

It doesn't take much to confuse you does it ... :)

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:18:37 +0000

I'm sure there is a better word than moron to describe a person who doesn't know right from wrong and requires instruction to avoid engaging in very bad behavior.

What word would you use?

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:18:17 +0000

I'm sure there is a better word than moron to describe a person who doesn't not right from wrong and requires instruction to avoid engaging in very bad behavior.

What word would you use?

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:16:45 +0000

What?

By: Michale

Michale — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:16:07 +0000

So, in lieu of an answer, you go with a blatant ad hominem...

Where??

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By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:15:57 +0000

So, in lieu of an answer, you go with a blatant ad hominem...

Really, Michale? That's what a girl would say. :)

[185] should read like the above ... :(

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:14:40 +0000

... an emotional girl, at that ... Heh.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 16:14:21 +0000

So, in lieu of an answer, you go with a blatant ad hominem...

Really, Michale? That's what a girl would say. :)

By: Michale

Michale — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 15:46:15 +0000

How does it make you feel to have made Chris post that entire exchange on his blog? How should it make me feel?? I feel vindicated that CW had the integrity to post the FACTS... Granted he used the facts to SPIN things his way, but he didn't shy away from posting... Well, the person wouldn't know if he's a moron ... So, in lieu of an answer, you go with a blatant ad hominem... Having investigated thousands of rape accusations in my career, I can tell you with complete authority that the very first question an alleged victim is asked is, "Did you say no" or stop or variations thereof. If the alleged victim indicates that they did NOT say no or stop, then the next question asked is "Were there any conditions or circumstances where you felt that saying 'NO' or 'Stop' would endanger your life?". If the alleged victim answers NO to THAT, then there is no case and the investigation is concluded.. I know, I know.. It's an emotional topic.. But it has to be handled dispassionately and objectively to protect ALL parties involved... 270

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 15:16:56 +0000

Michale,

How does it make you feel to have made Chris post that entire exchange on his blog?

Think about that before answering.

No amount of funding will rectify that. It's here and it's a stain.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 15:07:27 +0000

If "NO" is not articulated, how is the person supposed to know??? Well, the person wouldn't know if he's a moron ... You can't be serious, Michale. And, if you are, you have serious problems that need to be addressed.

By: Michale

Michale — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 09:55:59 +0000

As for "they let you do it," that's not a defense against sexual assault. If they LET you do it and there is no filing of charges afterwards, then it's not sexual assault.. Ask any prosecutor if that's a crime, whether the woman vocally protested at the time or not. Bullshit.. NO MEANS NO If "NO" is not articulated, how is the person supposed to know??? The ONLY thing Trump is guilty of is being crass and boorish and saying it like it is with gold-digging women..

By: Chris Weigant

Chris Weigant — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 06:51:46 +0000

Michale - Ask, and ye shall receive: ===== Unknown: "She used to be great, she's still very beautiful." Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and fuck her, she was married." Unknown: "That's huge news there." Trump: "No, no, Nancy. No this was [inaudible] and I moved on her very heavily in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married. Then all-of-a-sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look." Bush: "Your girl's hot as shit. In the purple." Multiple voices: "Whoah. Yes. Whoah." Bush: "Yes. The Donald has scored. Whoah my man." Trump: "Look at you. You are a pussy." Bush: "You gotta get the thumbs up." Trump: "Maybe it's a different one." Bush: "It better not be the publicist. No, it's, it's her." Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Bush: "Whatever you want." Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." Bush: "Yeah those legs. All I can see is the legs." Trump: "It looks good." Bush: "Come on shorty." Trump: "Oh nice legs huh." Bush: "Get out of the way honey. Oh that's good legs. Go ahead." Trump: "It's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?" ==== As for "they let you do it," that's not a defense against sexual assault. If a woman freezes when being attacked, that doesn't mean the attack didn't happen. Especailly when it involves grabbing a woman by the crotch, as Trump fully admits. Ask any prosecutor if that's a crime, whether the woman vocally protested at the time or not. Nice try, but no dice. -CW

By: Chris Weigant

Chris Weigant — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 06:45:37 +0000

Michale [123, 124] - Please. Don't quote the lame-ass American movie, with (shudder) Sly Stallone. Judge Dredd had no speech impediment. None. "I AM the law!" is the only way that line should be quoted. Period. Watch the British Judge Dredd movie to see what he was really all about... Hmmph. I mean, I wouldn't quote John Travolta as Terl in Battlefield Earth, because the original was so much better than the movie! -CW

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 23:41:17 +0000

I mean, imagine the world that you people want us to live in..

You must get a signed and notarized affidavit from a girl you like before you are allowed to flirt with her or make ANY kind of spurious contact to see if she is interested...

THAT is the kind of world that Democrats want...

Frakin' ridiculous...

TOTALLY frakin' ridiculous....

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 23:40:17 +0000

On our first date, I just started kissing my future wife.. I didn't ask permission, I just went for it..

By YOUR reasoning, I committed a crime!

Can't you comprehend how utterly ridiculous you sound!???

Because you DO sound REALLY ridiculous... And SOLELY based on Party slavery....

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 23:38:15 +0000

What part of "THEY LET THEM DO IT" is unclear to you???

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 23:37:06 +0000

Spin away! His words...”I just start kissing them...I don’t even wait.” That’s an admission to a crime.

It's ONLY a crime if the woman SAYS it's a crime...

Have ANY women said it's a crime after the fact??? Did ANY women go to the police right then and there after it occurred??

NO..

Ergo, it's NOT a crime..

Give it up, people....

You got NOTHING....

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 23:12:18 +0000

Michale,

I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.

Spin away! His words...”I just start kissing them...I don’t even wait.” That’s an admission to a crime.

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 22:02:58 +0000

Maybe, all else being the same, if the Governor of Minnesota were Republican, then Franken wouldn't have resigned. I can guarantee you that Franken wouldn't have resigned and I can guarantee you that Democrats would have fought tooth and nail to protect Franken... I think ANYONE here who is honest about things will concede that this is factually accurate..... But, I have always been honest with my comments - responding to you and to everyone else. I apologize... It's not that I question your honesty, it's just that I don't think you took into account all the factors... To prevent the increase of the majority of the Republicans over the Democrats?? I think the Democrats would avoid that at *ANY* cost... Including defending Franken who, let's face it, is guilty of nothing more than crass and boorish flirting... Much the same as Trump has done in the past... 254

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:57:30 +0000

Maybe you're right, Michale and, maybe I'm extremely naïve when in comes to US politics.

Maybe, all else being the same, if the Governor of Minnesota were Republican, then Franken wouldn't have resigned.

But, I have always been honest with my comments - responding to you and to everyone else.

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:44:04 +0000

Pardon the french of the afore mentioned comment. But that is exactly how Al should have done it..

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:39:37 +0000

But if you want the way to go forward, it's easy??

Here is what Franken SHOULD have said..

"Yea, I might have squeezed here or there.. Yea, I am a huggy kind of person.. Yea, I even put my arm on some woman's waist.. Big Fucking Deal!!! Cry my a river!!! Have we gotten so politically correct that minor flirtations are worthy of execution!!!! I am what I am and fuck ya'all... I am staying put and going to continue to do the good work that I do!! Fuck ya'all!!"

THAT is what Al Franken SHOULD have said.

And if Al had said that, as much as I hate his politics, I would have jumped to my feet and cheered until I was hoarse....

Because THAT is the way, the ONLY WAY, forward...

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:34:44 +0000

Well, Michale, we live in the here and now and the world that is. I don't know what would have happened differently if a Republican was in the governor's office. Yes you do, you just don't want to admit it.. "If I drop a hammer on a high gravity planet, I don't need to see it fall to know that it has fallen. So it is with humans. Humans who have certain basic characteristics can have their actions predicted with a high degree of accuracy." -Commander Spock, STAR TREK, Court Martial I would hope that you might start to see things the same way without always harping on the crass politics of everything ... You get people here to stop harping on Roy Moore, who is COMPLETELY innocent of all accusations, and I'll be happy to oblige...

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:31:07 +0000

Since ya'all don't have the balls to bring Trump's Access Hollywood quote up, because you KNOW I'll rake you over the coals for it, I'll just do it for you.. "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything... grab them by the pussy." And when you are a star, they LET you do it... you can do ANYTHING.... They LET you do it.. They LET..... LET..... LET.... LET...... LET..... You see why ya'all's case is TOTALLY fraked up??? If they LET you do it, it's not sexual assault.. If ANYTHING is bad here it's that Trump is attacking gold-digging and shallow women who LET (there's that word again) men have their way because they are rich men.... Women like Rose McGowan who "LET" (there's that word again) Harvey Weinstein get away with sexual assault in exchange for a hundred thousand dollars and a career boost... So, ya'all's claim that Trump is confessing to sexual assault is totally and completely bogus, based on NOTHING but Party Slavery induced spin... I can see why none of ya'all wanted to bring up Trump's quote... Because I just STOMPED yer arguments to oblivion.... "Give my regards to oblivion.." -Dr Smith, LOST IN SPACE 250

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:28:30 +0000

Well, Michale, we live in the here and now and the world that is.

I don't know what would have happened differently if a Republican was in the governor's office.

The reason I posted the Gillibrand comments is because I think she points the way forward on how this 'reckoning' should proceed with respect to responding to bad behavior.

I'm looking at the broader context of all of this and not through partisan eyes.

I would hope that you might start to see things the same way without always harping on the crass politics of everything ...

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:13:15 +0000

Those are nice and pretty words, Liz..

But let me ask you and ask you to be honest..

Would the Democrats have been so eager to help Franken out the door if the Minnesota Governor was a Republican and would have appointed a Republican to fill Franken's seat??

I think you and I both know the answer to that...

So, like I said.. Pretty words...

But actions speak louder than words.. And you know what those actions would have been if a Republican would have been appointed to fill Franken's seat...

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By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:08:04 +0000

In [142] I mentioned Senator Gillibrand's remarks on Senator Franken and the larger reckoning that is now happening .

Here is what she posted to her FB page:

Senator Franken Should Step Aside

I have been shocked and disappointed to learn over the last few weeks that a colleague I am fond of personally has engaged in behavior towards women that is unacceptable. I consider Senator Franken to be a friend and have enjoyed working with him in the Senate in our shared fight to help American families.

But this moment of reckoning about our friends and colleagues who have been accused of sexual misconduct is necessary, and it is painful. We must not lose sight that this watershed moment is bigger than any one industry, any one party, or any one person.

The pervasiveness of sexual harassment and the experience women face every day across America within the existing power structure of society has finally come out of the shadows. It is a moment that we as a country cannot afford to ignore.

While a lot of the media focus has been on high-profile cases with powerful leaders in politics, Hollywood, and the media business, we must recognize that this is happening every day to women everywhere, up and down the economic ladder. For many women, including hourly workers in offices, stores, hotels, restaurants, bars, or on farms, with bosses who aren’t famous enough to be held accountable publicly, calling out their abusers is still not an option. To achieve lasting change, we will need to fight this everywhere on behalf of everyone by insisting on accountability and working to bring more women into leadership in each industry to fundamentally shift the culture.

In politics, of course, the problem of sexual harassment and sexual assault is not limited to any one party. There have been Democrats and Republicans accused of misconduct, and I have no doubt that there will be more because Congress is not immune to this scourge. The question is what are we willing to do about it when courageous women and men come forward.

We have to rise to the occasion, and not shrink away from it, even when it’s hard, especially when it’s hard. That is what this larger moment is about. So, I have spent a lot of time reflecting on Senator Franken’s behavior. Enough is enough. The women who have come forward are brave and I believe them. While it’s true that his behavior is not the same as the criminal conduct alleged against Roy Moore, or Harvey Weinstein, or President Trump, it is still unquestionably wrong, and should not be tolerated by those of us who are privileged to work in public service.

As the mother of two young boys, we owe it to our sons and daughters to not equivocate, but to offer clarity. We should not have to be explaining the gradations between sexual assault, harassment and unwelcome groping. And what message do we send to our sons and daughters when we accept gradations of crossing the line? None of it is ok and none of it should be tolerated.

We should demand the highest standards, not the lowest, from our leaders, and we should fundamentally value and respect women. Every workplace in America, including Congress, needs to have a strong process and accountability for sexual harassment claims, and I am working with others to address the broken and opaque system in Congress.

While Senator Franken is entitled to have the Ethics Committee conclude its review, I believe it would be better for our country if he sent a clear message that any kind of mistreatment of women in our society isn’t acceptable by stepping aside to let someone else serve.

In the wake of the election of President Trump, in just the last few months, our society is changing, and I encourage women and men to keep speaking up to continue this progress. At this moment, we need to speak hard truths or lose our chance to make lasting change.

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:04:45 +0000

Says the pot calling the kettle black again. YAWN

And yet, you DON'T come back with ANY facts on Donald Trump's quote...

Why is that??

Because you, like Russ and Neil, know that I will prove you WRONG with FACTS...

Like I always do.. :D

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 21:03:41 +0000

Actually they have not disappeared at all. Multiple lawsuits against Trump are still winding their way forward. They just aren't getting the "flavor of the press" of the month at the moment.

So, they disappeared in the press...

And WHY did they disappear???

Because they are no longer relevant...

I would even dispute your claim that the lawsuits are still active... But I am open to you proving me wrong.. :D

By: John M

John M — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:35:07 +0000

[159] Michale

"And notice how they ALL disappeared after Trump won the election.."

Actually they have not disappeared at all. Multiple lawsuits against Trump are still winding their way forward. They just aren't getting the "flavor of the press" of the month at the moment.

By: John M

John M — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:33:04 +0000

[160] Michale

"FACTS mean nothing..

ONLY ideology is important.."

Says the pot calling the kettle black again. YAWN

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:28:08 +0000

It's the Rush Limbaugh/Donovan McNabb bullshit accusations all over again..

Ya'all pay absolutely NO ATTENTION to the actual words and just make up yer own shit SOLELY because the -D/-R crap....

FACTS mean nothing..

ONLY ideology is important..

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:13:07 +0000

Notice it wasn’t until Trump tried to claim that he didn’t actually do what he claimed to have done that his accusers came forward. They were pissed to hear him bragging about what he had done to them, but were even more pissed when he tried to deny it after being busted!

And notice how they ALL disappeared after Trump won the election..

Why, it's ALMOST like the didn't care about their accusations once they proved to be incapable of preventing Trump from becoming President..

But naaawwww THAT couldn't be it.. Could it??? :^/

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:10:49 +0000

Since you obviously missed it the first time, Listen.. :D

I'm a thourough-bred
That's what she said
In the back of my truck bed
As I was gettin' buzzed on suds
Out on some back country road.
We were flying high
Fine as wine, having ourselves a big and rich time
***And I was going, just about as far as she'd let me go.***
But her evaluation
Of my cowboy reputation
Had me begging for salvation
All night long
So I took her out giggin frogs
Introduced her to my old bird dog
And sang her every wilie nelson song I could think of
And we made love
-SAVE A HORSE, RIDE A COWBOY

I guess Big & Rich are confessing to sexual assault because the talked about how women LET them go about as far as they want to go... EVEN if was grabbing their pussy...

You guys see how utterly ridiculous ya sound???

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:07:47 +0000

Nothing to support the accusations against Trump... except for his confession on tape, you mean.

Quote his exact words and I will point out exactly how yer full of kaa kaa :D

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:56:39 +0000

Michale,

As far as Trump, there is absolutely NO FACTS to support the accusations against Trump and there are PLENTY of facts that indicate that the accusations were NOTHING but politically motivated attacks..

Nothing to support the accusations against Trump... except for his confession on tape, you mean. And if you think bragging about committing sexual assault qualifies as “locker room talk”, then you are an overweight man-baby who has never been around an actual locker room.

Seriously, who thinks they will impress someone by bragging about sexually assaulting a person? Even if he was lying, what kind of person lies about doing that???

Again, this was Trump bringing this on himself!

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 13:57:50 +0000

I hope he tells us the names of ALL the men who have had settlements for harassment in Congress. I want all the names.

Would you want ALL the names if the result would be a SUPER MAJORITY for Republicans in both the House and Senate??

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 11:45:41 +0000

It just bugs me that the complaints against Franken are from people who not only consented to Franken touching them, but that they physically touched him as well! There was nothing sexual about the contact — I doubt anyone gets sexual thrills from touching a person’s love handles.

Well, live with it.

This is the world that you Demcorats created.. A world where women can say any damn thing they want, make ANY bogus accusation they want, no matter HOW ridiculous and not only is it believed, but it is acted upon..

You bitch and moan about how things are??

THIS IS WHAT YA'ALL HAVE CREATED..

This is ya'all's UTOPIA!!

Now you whine and bitch and moan because YOU Democrats are being held to the standards that YOU Democrats wanted to impose on everyone

WAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAA Let me dial WHINE-ONE-ONE and call you a WAAAAAMMBULANCE....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6cXFucXQAA3HdE.jpg

You want to point fingers and look at the people responsible for FrakIt's and Conyer's demise??

Look in a frakin' mirror!

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 11:11:31 +0000

I'm a thourough-bred
That's what she said
In the back of my truck bed
As I was gettin' buzzed on suds
Out on some back country road.
We were flying high
Fine as wine, having ourselves a big and rich time
And I was going, just about as far as she'd let me go.
But her evaluation
Of my cowboy reputation
Had me begging for salvation
All night long
So I took her out giggin frogs
Introduced her to my old bird dog
And sang her every wilie nelson song I could think of
And we made love
-SAVE A HORSE, RIDE A COWBOY

I guess Big & Rich are confessing to sexual assault because the talked about how women LET them go about as far as they want to go...

You guys see how utterly ridiculous ya sound???

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 10:26:38 +0000

Sen. Al Franken will resign, Democratic official says

A Democratic official who has spoken to Al Franken and key aides says Franken will resign his Minnesota Senate seat on Thursday, the official tells MPR News.

The official spoke to Franken and separately to Franken's staff. A staff member told the official that Franken had gone to his Washington home to discuss his plans with family.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/12/06/senator-al-franken-to-resign

Say goodnight, Gracie....

You see what you people have wrought with your hyper political correctness???

You want to impose your naive and hyper political correctness on Americans and then ya'all are FORCED to abide by it, while regular every day Americans can ignore it and laugh their asses off when ya'all get hoisted by yer own petard!! :D

Again, a great way to start the day!! :D

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 10:09:14 +0000

Joe Biden 2020 Is A Terrible Idea In A Post-Weinstein America
Biden mishandled the Anita Hill hearing in 1991 and is known for getting too close to women. Is that what Democrats want?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-biden-2020-harvey-weinstein_us_5a0a0ba8e4b00a6eece3a13e

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:51:02 +0000

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:49:19 +0000

The problem with all of this and why Franken must go can be summed up in one word: the ever and all important context. Funny how context is *ONLY* important when the subject has a -D after their name... Where is yer devotion to context in the cases of PRESIDENT Donald Trump and Soon-To-Be Senator Roy Moore??? Context is no where to be found... Funny how that always is, eh? :D Room 222 :D heh! That never gets old!! :D

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:47:07 +0000

Not a single one claims that Franken acted as if his actions were sexually motivated. I can guarantee that Franken won’t take group photos the same way ever again!

Really??

Someone grabbing your buttcheek and squeezing is not sexual in ANY way??? :^/

Tell me.. Would you be this nuanced if FrakIt had a -R after his name??? Of course you wouldn't.. You would be on your high horse condemning FrakIt to the high heavens..

Don't bother to deny it, you and I both know it's factually accurate...

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By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:44:15 +0000

JM Democrats acknowledge and take responsibility for their actions. Bill Clinton... 'nuff said.. YOU, Michale, have not moral authority to criticize. Actually, until such time as ya'all kick Bill Clinton AND his enabler to the curb, YA'ALL have no moral authority to criticize Moore.. Not until You call for Roy Moore to withdraw and Donald Trump to resign as well. CASE CLOSED. Roy Moore is COMPLETELY innocent of anything.. THIS is FACT.... CASE CLOSED Oh, and by the way, NOTHING was ever proven against Franken or Conyers, or even Bill Clinton, no court of law ever issued a verdict. They were ALL JUST accusations also. Conyers settlements are well documented, as are Clintons.. Conyers confessed to the allegations by resigning.. So will FrakIt... Further, with FrakIt there is photographic evidence of his intent to commit sexual assault.. Further x2, FrakIt has never DENIED the sexual assaults... I only point that out NOT to defend them, but to point out your OWN hypocrisy in characterizing the charges against both Moore and Trump as accusations ONLY also. Moore has denied the allegations.. Conyers and FrakIt have not.. Further, it's a FACT that evidence was altered and contrived to implicate Moore which lends credibility to the political attacks claim. As far as Trump, there is absolutely NO FACTS to support the accusations against Trump and there are PLENTY of facts that indicate that the accusations were NOTHING but politically motivated attacks.. Again, I will ask you, what possible concern is it of the baker at all, what is done with the cake? Throw it in the garbage after purchase, feed it to the cat, use it in a gay wedding, why does the baker get to decide??? What possible concern is it of yours how the baker chooses to run his business and be faithful to his religion?? You can argue all you want, but based on Justice Kennedy's statements, it's clear that the SCOTUS will side with the baker... And neither did the women. To say otherwise is false. Where is your proof??? I have posted my proof.. Of course you ignore it because it totally decimates your argument.. 220

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:10:53 +0000

John M [136]

I totally agree! The wedding cake plays no part in the actual wedding ceremony! It is food. The baker is not a part of the ceremony in any way, so he must have an issue with what he was asked to make.

Except the baker was not being asked to create something that he hasn’t made hundreds of other times; so it isn’t the product being asked for that is a problem for the baker. He can’t claim that baking a wedding cake is against his religious beliefs, because that is not true.

No, it is WHO asked the baker to make them a wedding cake that the baker takes issue with. If a straight couple had gone in and requested the same exact cake, the baker would have happily made it. This is discrimination.

Had the baker simply said he was overbooked with orders on the date the couple wanted their cake, this would not have been an issue. Instead, the baker chose to inform them that he does not consider them worthy of being treated the same as other people.

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 08:56:48 +0000

Paula and Liz,

I do understand that Dems cannot call for Trumps removal from office over his alleged sexual harassment past if they don’t force Franken to go. I hate that it has come to this, because there is no damn way the Republicans will ever hold themselves accountable for anything...those days are long gone!

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 04:03:53 +0000

Although, the context here is about much more than "helping the party". It's a tsunami and it's going to swallow up a lot more before it's all said and done.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 03:39:28 +0000

Hey, Paula ... I just read your entire post and believe it may be a banner day after all! :)

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 03:37:45 +0000

Paula,

It may not be a banner day after all as the context I'm referring to may not be what you are talking about.

It's not the limited context in Senator Franken's case that is important here but rather the broader context of this 'moment of reckoning' that seems to have taken on a life of its own in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein situation.

Did you hear what Senator Gillibrand said today about all of this with respect to the larger context? I think she nailed it.

By: Paula

Paula — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 03:18:43 +0000

Also, Hello Neilm!

By: Paula

Paula — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 03:17:38 +0000

Balthasar/Listen: great posts on Al Franken. Yep. I think Al is being railroaded. The woman today writing about him squeezing her waist? And that she won't let her husband do that? Sounded like SHE has an "issue". If Al resigns to "help the party" I hope he goes down swinging. I hope he tells us the names of ALL the men who have had settlements for harassment in Congress. I want all the names. (I don't expect this but I think we deserve to know these things, especially if Al Franken is going to be burned at the stake.) How many of these men are still out there? At lawfirms, consultancies, lobby shops, investment banks, media outlets? They paid their way out of trouble once -- are they still harassing? Are they getting away with it? Separately I'm not impressed by Dem leaders (or Bernie) in this case. I think Al deserves an Ethics hearing. I agree (THIS IS A BANNER DAY!!) with Elizabeth that CONTEXT is critical in his case.

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 02:48:18 +0000

Russ,

The problem with all of this and why Franken must go can be summed up in one word: the ever and all important context.

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 02:07:28 +0000

When I worked as a youth minister, we had a senior staff member who was well known for grabbing the waists of whoever he was next to when we would take group photos. It was off-putting for most, because he roughly pulled you in close so that you were hip to hip with him. He’d do this to both men and women, and it became a running joke for years with the staff; yet, no one ever let him in on the joke directly.

When two young female staffers told me that they were very upset with him after they were grabbed by him (always on the hip, and pulled in tightly), I went with our regional director to speak with him.

I’ll never forget that meeting: He had NO IDEA that people were bothered by that! He acknowledged pulling those next to him in tightly, because we were doing group photos and we almost always had to tell people to squeeze in to get everyone in the photo. But he was devastated to learn that this had been an issue for years and no one had ever said anything if he was making them feel uncomfortable.

It really struck me that it will always be highly unlikely that a person will change their “bad habits” unless they are aware that their habits are “bad”! This was an incredible guy who loved people and the thought of making others uncomfortable with his grabbing them was horrible for him.

Every group photo from then on you’d find him on the far end of the pictures, always with his arms behind his back. I hated how those pics looked because I knew that our silence over the years caused him to feel like he’d done wrong.

This is why I support Al Franken and hope that he will stay in Congress. His accusers all claim that the actions that upset them were ones he performed in front of everyone. Most of them still aren’t sure if he realized he’d grabbed them harder than they were comfortable with. Not a single one claims that Franken acted as if his actions were sexually motivated. I can guarantee that Franken won’t take group photos the same way ever again!

By: John M

John M — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 01:46:32 +0000

[58] Michale

Of course, those men didn't take money and career boosts in exchange for their silence...

And neither did the women. To say otherwise is false. Where is your proof???

By: John M

John M — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 01:44:50 +0000

[56] Michale

"For me, the determining factor is simple.. The gay couple can go elsewhere to get their cake made...

Therefore, the religious rights of the baker take precedent..."

Again, I will ask you, what possible concern is it of the baker at all, what is done with the cake? Throw it in the garbage after purchase, feed it to the cat, use it in a gay wedding, why does the baker get to decide???

By: John M

John M — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 01:36:25 +0000

[10] Michale

"And the woman has a drug problem and a huge axe to grind against Moore AND waited almost 40 years to make the accusation right when it would be the most advantageous for the Democrats..

Yea.. THAT's credible..

Funny how ya'all give Clinton a pass, ya'all give Conyers a pass, give Franken a pass ya'all give ANYONE with a -D after their name a pass.."

Yeah that's so funny. Since John Conyers has resigned and Al Franken will hold a press conference Thursday where it is widely speculated that he too will resign.

Democrats acknowledge and take responsibility for their actions.

What is it with Republicans??? Apparently they can only issue denials and blame the victims while evading and avoiding responsibility.

YOU, Michale, have not moral authority to criticize.

Not until You call for Roy Moore to withdraw and Donald Trump to resign as well. CASE CLOSED.

Oh, and by the way, NOTHING was ever proven against Franken or Conyers, or even Bill Clinton, no court of law ever issued a verdict. They were ALL JUST accusations also.

I only point that out NOT to defend them, but to point out your OWN hypocrisy in characterizing the charges against both Moore and Trump as accusations ONLY also.

By: John M

John M — Thu, 07 Dec 2017 01:33:35 +0000

[8] Chris Weigant

[4] neilm

Maybe someone can explain why is it even any of the baker's business what the cake is used for in the first place???

If I want to smash the cake in someone's face, feed it to the cat, or use it for a gay wedding, what concern is that of that baker???

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 23:00:14 +0000

AND ANOTHER WOMAN accuses Al FrakIt of sexual assault.. Another in the 'photo-op" category: "We posed for the shot. He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh. I froze. Then he squeezed. At least twice." That's it. He squeezed her waist while drawing her in for a photo. To illustrate her story she includes the photograph taken that day, which shows her shaken and angry. No, just kidding: the photo shows her smiling and cocking her head toward Franken, whose hands aren't visible. Her hand is clearly on his shoulder, though. She goes on to admit that she's a bit of a prude, even with her spouse: "I don’t let my husband touch me like that in public because I believe it diminishes me as a professional woman." Then she tells a long story that reveals her gradual radicalization by the #MeToo movement, particularly in regards to Bill Clinton, whom she blames, for costing Hillary the election: "It’s not just bad men and exhausted women," she writes, "it’s that we chose Bill over the women. And that original sin lost us the election of what we all assumed would be the first female president of the United States." She went so far up this rabbit hole, she says, that she ended up tweeting "sorry" to Monica Lewinsky. Then she wrote an article claiming that Franken 'assaulted' her by putting his arm around her waist and squeezing a couple of times, something I've done myself hundreds, maybe thousands of times. See, this is the problem for me. Even as Franken gets accused of lesser and lesser offenses, the sheer number of accusations produces an inevitable pile-on effect, and Franken's chance of surviving this death by a thousand small cuts diminishes. Reading Dupuy's article, however, made me realize, finally, that even though I think that the accusations he faces could all be challenged, it is to no avail. To the feminists, he will henceforth be a symbol of the patriarchy, and stand-in for all of the males that have ever annoyed them. So, while I'll mourn his sudden needless retirement, I at last can come to peace with it, knowing that it wasn't idiot Republicans that brought him down, it was self-righteous liberals.

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:25:46 +0000

Michale-
May I suggest that you start each comment by going down a line or two, putting in the number of the comment and then going back up to the first line to begin your actual comment.

This may keep you from getting caught up in the comment and forgetting to add the number at the end.

That's a smart Idea, Don.. :D I'll give it a try..

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:12:58 +0000

Democratic lawmakers are at odds about whether the president should declare Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a recognition he is expected to make Wednesday.

The Senate’s top Democrat, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, told THE WEEKLY STANDARD Tuesday that he had advised Trump to declare Jerusalem as Israel’s “undivided” capital.

The capital declaration could come around the same time as an announcement about relocating the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, a move that Trump deferred six months ago by issuing a waiver.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/democrats-divided-ahead-of-trumps-expected-recognition-of-jerusalem-as-israels-capital/article/2010726

Even Chucky boy is with PRESIDENT Trump on Israel... :D

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:45:08 +0000

Translation: I have no argument. Time to deflect.

Not at all.. I was pointing out YOU have no argument which is why you have to rely on Republicans..

My argument was so persuasive that it caused you to contradict yourself.. :D

Of course. That's how Republicans treat their victims after all, isn't it? They don't apologize, they threaten to sue. Hey, worked for Trump.

It's how Republicans treat perpetrators and forgers and those who falsely accuse for political ends..

I have no problem with that...

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:41:15 +0000

Speaking of Conyers...

John Conyers III arrested but not prosecuted in domestic abuse case
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/john-conyers-iii-was-arrested-domestic-abuse-not-prosecuted-n827151

And THIS is the guy that Dumbocrats want to put in Congress in place of his sexual assaulting father???

WOW...... You Lefties sure are taking hit after hit after hit, eh?? :D

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:38:49 +0000

You must be in sad shape indeed if you have to quote REPUBLICANS to bail yer ass out. Translation: I have no argument. Time to deflect. If Moore loses, that might just be what happens.. Of course. That's how Republicans treat their victims after all, isn't it? They don't apologize, they threaten to sue. Hey, worked for Trump.

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:38:22 +0000

AND ANOTHER WOMAN accuses Al FrakIt of sexual assault..

I Believe Franken’s Accusers Because He Groped Me, Too
The Democratic Party needs to stand with women who have been harassed—and not defend the politicians who abused them.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/i-believe-frankens-accusers-because-he-groped-me-too/547691/

Face reality Weigantians.. Roy Moore is going to be in Congress and Conyers and Fraken are not...

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:29:17 +0000

1. Israel moved its capital to Jerusalem in 1980.
2. Israel is (arguably) the USA's most reliable ally.
3. In 1990, the US senate passed a resolution acknowledging Jerusalem as capital of Israel.
4. In 1995, the US congress passed a law requiring the US embassy to be moved to Jerusalem and affirming that Jerusalem is recognized as the capital of Israel.
5. At no time has any of this been reversed or contradicted by US legislative or executive governance.
-Drowbonian101

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:28:25 +0000

be Judge DREDD "I AM DA LAW"

Ooooooo I am gonna get my wee wee whacked for THAT one..

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:27:50 +0000

How many will die as a result? This action was stupid, counterproductive and unnecessary. It accomplishes no goal, except as payback to Netanyahu's right wing coalition. So, the fact that IT'S THE LAW has no bearing??? You Democrats.. So quick to quote to be Judge DREDD "I AM DA LAW" when it suits yer agenda and JUST as quick to ignore it when it doesn't... 211

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:26:30 +0000

If Alabama Republicans think that these women are lying and in cahoots with the Democrats, why not sue them all for fraud and put the issue and the evidence before a Court of Law?

Because they'd lose and lose hard, and they know it.

And if they DO go to court, that yearbook will be exhibit A and be PROOF of fraud and intent to deceive...

And it WILL be examined by experts who will conclude exactly what anyone with 2 eyes and NOT enslaved by Party will conclude..

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By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:25:46 +0000

And I have to ask..

How many will die as a result? This action was stupid, counterproductive and unnecessary. It accomplishes no goal, except as payback to Netanyahu's right wing coalition.

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:20:45 +0000

Evidence?? Shall I repost the quotes of all of the Republicans who have said that there is no reason to doubt the stories of any of Moore's accusers, including Sessions?

You must be in sad shape indeed if you have to quote REPUBLICANS to bail yer ass out.. :D

If Alabama Republicans think that these women are lying and in cahoots with the Democrats, why not sue them all for fraud and put the issue and the evidence before a Court of Law?

Because they'd lose and lose hard, and they know it.

If Moore loses, that might just be what happens..

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:19:43 +0000

Palestinians are calling for 3 Days Of Rage to protest President Trump's actions..

I have to ask..

How would we notice any difference???

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By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:19:33 +0000

ALL of the accusers either have an axe to grind against Moore or were coached and cajoled by the Democrats in Alabama...

Evidence?? Shall I repost the quotes of all of the Republicans who have said that there is no reason to doubt the stories of any of Moore's accusers, including Sessions?

If Alabama Republicans think that these women are lying and in cahoots with the Democrats, why not sue them all for fraud and put the issue and the evidence before a Court of Law?

Because they'd lose and lose hard, and they know it.

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:18:41 +0000

So, no.. The 'y's do not match....

Jeeesh...

At least TRY and give me a challenge, eh?? :^/

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:17:56 +0000

The 'y's all match. {GIBBS SLAP} There are no cursive 'y's in the forged part ya numbskull...

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:16:43 +0000

Besides, all of that so-called 'analysis' is amateurish at best. No one writes characters exactly the same way every time [106]. The do in the same message or close enough to the same that they aren't BLATANTLY different, as this is.. The second picture [107] is even less dispositive, since the perceived variation of the colors on the page could be explained as result of the way the the glossy page of the yearbook was photographed, and the way light acts on that kind of surface. You can create a similar optical illusion yourself if you take a page in your own yearbook and bend it away from the light. See the ink appear to change color? Luckily, I've been bored enough before to have discovered that trick for myself. I guess I convinced you that the forgery IS relevant and important... :D NOW you are trying to convince yerself that it's not really a forgery.. But it is.. ANYONE who is not enslaved by Party dogma can see plainly that it's a forgery... Nice try, but you lose.. :D 205

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 21:08:57 +0000

Besides, all of that so-called 'analysis' is amateurish at best. No one writes characters exactly the same way every time [106]. An expert would need lots of examples of Moore's handwriting to even begin to make a determination on the validity of the script. The 'y's all match. The second picture [107] is even less dispositive, since the perceived variation of the colors on the page could be explained as result of the way the the glossy page of the yearbook was photographed, and the way light acts on that kind of surface. You can create a similar optical illusion yourself if you take a page in your own yearbook and bend it away from the light. See the ink appear to change color? Luckily, I've been bored enough before to have discovered that trick for myself.

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:56:56 +0000

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:56:37 +0000

Moore claimed that he didn't even know his accusers. At least two have subsequently produced instances where he signed their yearbooks.

Can you recite accurately EVERY PERSON YOU KNEW from 40 years ago???

Seriously, Dood.. You are so far out in left field over this...

What part of NONE OF IT IS RELEVANT do you not understand???

ALL of the accusers either have an axe to grind against Moore or were coached and cajoled by the Democrats in Alabama...

This is fact...

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:51:29 +0000

Moore is going to be in Congress and Conyers and Franken are not...

That's the reality... Get used to it..

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:50:33 +0000

It doesn't matter whether anything was later added in blue ink.

It's ALL that matters because it PROVES intent to deceive...

Put another way.. If it was a crime to sign a person's yearbook and you, as the lawyer, brought that yearbook in as evidence... You would be laughed out of court...

It's obvious why the accuser didn't want the yearbook to be examined..

She KNEW she was dirty..

And you know she is dirty too.. You just can't admit it..

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:48:33 +0000

The hilarious part about all of your amateur forensic analysis is that it completely misses the actual point of the evidence. Moore claimed that he didn't even know his accusers. At least two have subsequently produced instances where he signed their yearbooks. (and just to remind you, he's then a 32 year old district attorney signing "Love, Roy" in an unrelated 14 year old girl's yearbook). So?? A different place almost 40 years ago.. Has absolutely NO BEARING on the here and now.. Which is exactly what you would be saying if Moore had a -D after his name.. It doesn't matter whether anything was later added in blue ink. It's ALL that matters because it PROVES intent to deceive... The fact that he signed the girls' yearbooks at all is the evidence. WOW.. The fact that an adult signed a girls yearbook is ALL that matters to you??? You really understand how utterly ridiculous you sound, right??? :D 201

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:45:23 +0000

Anyone with eyes and not blind can see the added part was forged.. The hilarious part about all of your amateur forensic analysis is that it completely misses the actual point of the evidence. Moore claimed that he didn't even know his accusers. At least two have subsequently produced instances where he signed their yearbooks. (and just to remind you, he's then a 32 year old district attorney signing "Love, Roy" in an unrelated 14 year old girl's yearbook). It doesn't matter whether anything was later added in blue ink. The fact that he signed the girls' yearbooks at all is the evidence.

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:33:12 +0000

http://admin.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2017-11/202212_5_.jpg

And if you look at everything after LOVE ROY, it's in a different ink color and written completely different than the main body...

ANYONE who is not enslaved by Party can tell the forged part....

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:31:52 +0000

No, you have not.. Anyone with eyes and not blind can see the added part was forged...

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/38efe047e51c35ceb677ca2aebce047d3630157809bdc0857df5a94ae8b47607.jpg

The 'M' in MERRY is completely different than the 'M' in MOORE in the forged part..

The 77 is completely different than the 77 in the forged part...

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:28:50 +0000

On a plus note, Odumbo is likely fit to be tied that PRESIDENT Trump is recognizing Israel's capital today...

ANY day that Odumbo is pissy and whiney is a very good day indeed... :D

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:27:05 +0000

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:26:39 +0000

Balthy, you can bitch and moan all ya like...

But Al Frakit is going to be gone from the Senate...

And Roy Moore is going to be a senator..

THIS is the reality..

Deal with it..

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:21:19 +0000

Let's see, we've already addressed the supposed 'tampering' issue - that's bogus as hell. No, you have not.. Anyone with eyes and not blind can see the added part was forged... The statements of the first set of Moore accusers were corroborated with 30 other witnesses, according to the article that broke the story. Complete and utter BS... Most importantly, Moore is a religious nut who was thrown off of the Alabama Supreme Court twice for his refusal to uphold the law and the Constitution. Which is why he is going to win his Senate race... Face reality... Ya'all got NO FACTS... 196

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 19:37:00 +0000

Roy Moore only has accusations against him. The victims have a right to be heard, but allegations don't seem to have corroboration, and what little evidence has been shared shows signs of tampering Let's see, we've already addressed the supposed 'tampering' issue - that's bogus as hell. The statements of the first set of Moore accusers were corroborated with 30 other witnesses, according to the article that broke the story. Since then, we've also learned that Moore's predatory habits were an issue at the local mall. That too was corroborated by witnesses. Most importantly, Moore is a religious nut who was thrown off of the Alabama Supreme Court twice for his refusal to uphold the law and the Constitution. And we haven't even mentioned his bigotry. But according to the GOP, this man deserves to be, nay, MUST be elected Senator, lest an evil Democrat take the seat. Uh-huh. No partisan blindness there.

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 19:10:43 +0000

Franken has photographic evidence against him. Impossible to deny.

All we have is a still shot that showed FrakIt going to grab her tits.

See, that's the bitch about photographic evidence; if you use it, it has to show what you say it shows, or the jury just giggles at you.

But that's pubbies for ya - tax hikes are tax cuts, russian spies are just bankers and diplomats, and photos that show a man NOT touching a woman are photos that prove that he touched her. Uh-huh.

Stick to defending the Theocratic Perv. You're better at that.

By: neilm

neilm — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:58:19 +0000

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By: neilm

neilm — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:57:48 +0000

[95] In other words: D = Guilty, R = Completely innocent.

Got it.

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:56:50 +0000

So Michale, you think Franken should resign, but Moore should be elected and 45 should remain President.

And you accuse everybody else of partisanship.

Too funny.

See comment #95

He who laughs now, laughs best...

BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:56:03 +0000

Oh, and we forgot about Clarence Thomas - how does he get to keep his position if Franken is forced out?

Fine.. Force Clarence Thomas out.... Let President Trump have ANOTHER SCOTUS pick... :D

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By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:54:38 +0000

Conyers has a history of litigation and settlements. Impossible to deny.
Franken has photographic evidence against him. Impossible to deny.

Roy Moore only has accusations against him. The victims have a right to be heard, but allegations don't seem to have corroboration, and what little evidence has been shared shows signs of tampering.
-Drowbert101

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