Yes, yes, and yes.

Add to that the fact that Trump so resembles Benedict Arnold in his never-ending search for wealth/power and/or recognition/praise. It should surprise no one that Trump would be a turncoat against his own Party in search of a good headline... a con artist who bought all in to his own rhetoric that he "alone can fix it" realizes that he isn't getting that praise he thinks he deserves from his own crowd and quite obviously will take it however he can get it... Benedict Donald.

MAGA: Making Attorneys Get Attorneys

Let's leave old Adolf out of contemporary narratives, he's an historical figure, one people should learn from, not one to judge others by contemporaneously.

LL&P

“Maybe his enablers will rouse themselves when the Brownshirts come for them. I, for one, will resist."
-Democrat Rep. Gerry Connolly

Not a very nice thing for a representative of some of the people to say. I have heard it said that one should never compare anything to Nazi Germany unless it's Nazi Germany. I guess Twitter will make you say stupid things. Perhaps he was just agreeing with this twit:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?
7:48 AM - Jan 11, 2017

Do you think maybe he was following the lead of these guys?

* In an interview with Breitbart News, candidate Mike Huckabee said, "This president's foreign policy is the most feckless in American history. It is so naive that he would trust the Iranians. By doing so, he will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven."

* In a 2009 interview with Alex Jones, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) discussed his concern about President Obama's increasing power: "You had the money destroyed in Germany in 1923, and out of that chaos came Hitler, who promised that these awful people were the ones doing this to you and we need to round them up and put them in camps. And the liberties just went out the window. But people actually democratically voted in a Hitler. And I worry about that again in our country." Senator Paul then joked about whether Obama supporters had "brown shirts on," a reference to Nazi stormtroopers.

In a 2014 interview with NewsmaxTV, Ben Carson suggested the Obama administration had created a favorable climate for the rise of Communism in the United States. The interviewer asked whether Carson was specifically calling Obama and (former) Attorney General Eric Holder communists. Carson responded by encouraging viewers to reach their own conclusions. Read "The Naked Communist and read, you know, "Mein Kampf" and read the works of Vladimir Lenin."

"What We're Seeing With Trump Is Like The Rise Of Hitler"
-Democrat Rep. James Clyburn

You are quoting a clickservative headline there and it appears like a quote of James Clyburn when it's actually not. He was being interviewed on CNN and answering questions about the incidents in Charlottesville which included, in fact, neo-Nazis who were chanting "Jews will not replace us" and yelling "names at passersby who did not have white skin.

Really getting pounded here.. Lost power around 2130 last night..

Oh, bad. :(

Just some winds and rain.. Nothing a normal Nor'easter wouldn't bring....

Oh, good. :)

Keep these numbers in mind: 316 to 90 and 80 to 17. They were the lopsided votes in the House and Senate in support of the deal President Trump made with Democratic leaders on storm aid, the debt limit and government funding.

* That nugget is certainly not a Hitler quote from Democratic leaders/elected critters that accused the president they're "working with" of being Adolph HWMNBN.
* Okay, I will keep those numbers in mind.

Remarkably, all the no voters were Republicans.

But not too "remarkably" when you consider that a large quantity of Republicans in Congress have spent near a decade voting "no" on almost everything the Democrats proposed.

Every Democrat worked with President Trump on this Debt Ceiling deal of his.. :D

Now, right there is where we disagree since I believe it would be much more honest to say that President Trump worked with the Democrats on their deal.

A: The Democrats' deal was presented to PT.
B: PT agreed to the Democrats' deal.
C: Some Republicans refused to vote for the Democrats' deal because Republicans in Congress have spent near a decade voting "no" on almost everything the Democrats proposed.

A + B = C. :)

Considering the number of bone head predictions that have been WRONG... WRONG... IMPRESSIVELY WRONG (hint: 99.9% of them)

It's a reasonable conclusion... :D

LL&P...Glad to see Florida is still alive and kicking, despite the right-wing assurance that global warming is a conspiracy.

Trump has come to the conclusion that Republicans are useless and the only way that Trump can drain the swamp is with the help of Democrats..

I have no doubt that Trump believed he could fire anyone he wanted to and he that was untouchable the day he decided to kick Comey to the curb -- that's how it is when you are the boss of your own company. He found out very quickly that being the president isn't ANYTHING like being a CEO and there are repercussions for that in DC!

Maybe he has realized that if he fired Mueller, the backlash would be at an exponentially harsher degree than anything he faced after Comey's termination. He's terrified of Mueller (and for very good reasons, no doubt!), that much is very clear. I keep waiting for Russia to release a bombshell of dirty info on Trump, which I think will occur immediately after Tillerson quits/is forced out.

You and I are thinking along roughly the same lines - see comment 10 from "CW's Donnie, Chuck, And Nancy Strike A Big Deal" column.

Trump is beginning to grasp some new concepts he has never had to seriously consider before. The first is the notion of "separation of powers." The second is that the Roy Cohn school of legal defense (defame, outspend, and outlast) won't work against his political opponents, who also have access to media outlets and deep pockets. Trump is re-lawering-up as he begins to grasp his precarious situation.

I was somewhat surprised Trump didn't try and fire Mueller during Hurricane Weekend. Maybe Trump is starting to listen to his attorneys.

"Remember when I helped you out? You owe me! Please don't impeach me!"

Trump cannot understand how his polls are so low when the people paid to go to his rallies act as if they truly love him! If his polls go up, you can count on him screwing over the Republicans more and more!

I am sincerely curious as to how the Progressive base is taking it.. :D

"What We're Seeing With Trump Is Like The Rise Of Hitler"
-Democrat Rep. James Clyburn

He is becoming downright likable.. :D

Keep these numbers in mind: 316 to 90 and 80 to 17. They were the lopsided votes in the House and Senate in support of the deal President Trump made with Democratic leaders on storm aid, the debt limit and government funding.

Remarkably, all the no voters were Republicans.

Every Democrat worked with President Trump on this Debt Ceiling deal of his.. :D

Sister In Law in Palm Coast lost power an hour ago...

Another day in FL....

Hope you're okay JM and M. :)

Probably at the movies..

I am Groot.

But I submit that those comparison were from whack-job Republicans and not Republican leadership or sitting Congress Critters....

You say that like there's any difference between "whack-job Republicans" and Republican leadership/elected critters. ;) <-- wink

If you have any quotes from Republican leadership or Republican Congress Critters that have that kind of vitriolic, I would be happy to concede your point.

Oh, I see. That seems fair.

But regardless of WHY, the simple fact is, the hysterical hatred amongst the Left against President Trump knows no precedent..

See link at [40] for plenty hysterical hatred and lots of precedent. Besides, Adolph HWMNBN hasn't exactly cornered the market on evildoers, and Barack "Hussein Obama" was accused of being an illegitimate President who wasn't even born in the United States and a Muslim sympathizer and was suggested he created and worked with ISIS against the United States by Republican leadership.

And NOW, Democrat leadership is WORKING with the man that they claimed was Hitler..

Is that so? I do remember Nancy Pelosi talking about Hitler, but that was because Sean Spicer, the White House Press Secretary paid to speak for Trump, stated that even Hitler didn't use gas against his own people. But tell you what... fair is fair:

If you have any proof of accusatory "Trump is Hitler" quotes from the Democratic leadership who are "WORKING with the man that they claimed was Hitler"... or any Democratic Congress critters... I too will happily concede your point. :)

Absolutely without a doubt unequivocally agree with you...

There is no daylight between the Partys in that regard..

Where were you?

Probably at the movies..

But I submit that those comparison were from whack-job Republicans and not Republican leadership or sitting Congress Critters....

If you have any quotes from Republican leadership or Republican Congress Critters that have that kind of vitriolic, I would be happy to concede your point. :D

Kick makes a good point and it's not just applicable to Al Gore but to Democrats in general...

I believe this is applicable to the Republican Party also, and add to that the fact that we've increasingly got more money being laundered into PACs from foreign sources, which is a crime.

Democrats in general don't really mind big money in politics...

I believe the ones who refer to centrist Democrats and Democratic leaning Independents and NPAs as "neoliberals" actually mind to an exponential degree. ;)

But Republicans never said that Obama was Hitler... Republicans never said Obama was a fascist or a Nazi...

Where were you?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Obama+Hitler&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS733US733&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUorfq9prWAhWJ14MKHVcyA8wQ_AUICygC&biw=1536&bih=735

As for Al Gore talking about Big Money, I was talking about the Netrrots speech and Bill Maher appearance. Maybe in some other interview or speech Gore was talking only about The Koch Bros billions, but no specific Big Money distinctions were made in the Netroots speech or Bill Maher appearance.

"Our democracy has been hacked by big money and lobbyists for polluters long before Putin hacked our democracy, and too many politicians bow down to the large big money contributors because they feel like they have to beg them for money to buy TV ads." ~ Al Gore

I'm not referring to any speech where Al Gore was "only" talking about the Koch brothers, I'm referring to quarter billionaire Al Gore generally having a different definition of "big money" than your definition when he refers to getting "the lobbyists and the fat cat contributors" out of our democracy, as he did on Real Time with Bill Maher.

Being that Al Gore has run quite a few PACs in his day and has given millions to candidates who champion his causes, Al actually meets the definition of "fat cat with an agenda," although admittedly from a purely right-wing perspective. The fact that I happen to agree with the agenda of the guy writing the checks to support the candidates whom I support doesn't change the fact that he's giving "big money."

Just the same as when I criticize the Big Money Democrat Deniers here.

You mean those Democrats who deny that one person's "big money" is another person's chump change? ;) <-- note the wink

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT11/refresh/AL112017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/093910_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png

This is truly the worst case scenario for Florida..

An extremely large hurricane going over very warm waters and staying over water the whole time...

JM, I hope you bugged out....

It sounds so silly when said out loud.. :D

I think I would have noticed that by now if it were true. :D

heh :D

Word.......

Kick makes a good point and it's not just applicable to Al Gore but to Democrats in general...

Democrats in general don't really mind big money in politics...

They just don't want to have Republicans to have big money in THEIR politics.. :D

Why not throw in getting Trump, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. to commit to running small contribution campaigns from now on?

While he's at it, CW should throw in getting Trump, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. to commit to running naked around the Capitol rotunda and see which one happens first.

As Al Gore said, you can't solve climate without first solving the problem of Big Money in politics.

Yes, he did, but Al Gore is worth approximately a quarter of a billion dollars, and when he talks about getting "big money" out of politics, he's talking about the Koch brothers billions, not comparable with your "one demand" or Bernie's "27 dollars" campaign rhetoric. :)

In your opinion..

But regardless of WHY, the simple fact is, the hysterical hatred amongst the Left against President Trump knows no precedent..

And NOW, Democrat leadership is WORKING with the man that they claimed was Hitler..

How do you reconcile the irreconcilable??

But Republicans never said that Obama was Hitler... Republicans never said Obama was a fascist or a Nazi...

Democrats have said those things and many MANY worse about President Trump.....

That's probably because Obama never made comments that were fascist! He didn't race-bait crowds, he wasn't xenophobic. Trump gets called those things when the words out of his mouth earn him those nicknames!

This is why your "Odumbo" comments just seem childish -- they aren't in response to Obama saying something stupid.

I mean, who will there be to pick on me if you go offline...

Oh.. wait.. :D hehehehehe

"The line is long, yet distinguished"
-Goose, TOP GUN

:D

The track is heading your way now..

If you want a cool way to track Irma, check out this sight..

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=27.9;-81.0;5&l=wind-850hpa&t=20170910/09&m=gfs

Please be safe...

Ahem.. TPP...

'nuff said..

But Republicans never said that Obama was Hitler... Republicans never said Obama was a fascist or a Nazi...

Democrats have said those things and many MANY worse about President Trump.....

By working with Hitler....er.. I mean Trump now, Democrats have PROVEN that they were completely and utterly full of shit with their baseless and hysterical attacks on Trump...

Either that or they are admitting that they are AS BAD as a Nazi for wanting to work WITH a Nazi Hitler such as Trump...

Which is it??

Democrats have always been willing to support good legislation, regardless of who introduces it.

Oh really???

Apr 30, 2017 - Democrats in Washington are “shifting into full 'no' mode” with regards to President Donald Trump and his agenda, according to a Sunday.
rawstory.com/2017/04/we-dont-want-to-work-with-him-democrats-vow-to-defy-trump-and-obstruct-his-agenda-at-every-turn/

Majority of voters don't think Democrats have accepted Trump as a legitimate president.
thehill.com/homenews/administration/334972-poll-dems-dont-accept-trump-as-legitimate-president

“As a Jew, as an American, as a human, words cannot express my disgust and disappointment. This is not my President,”
-Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii)

I can find you hundreds of more examples..

You gots to face reality, dood.... :D

The obstructionism and hatred that Righties had against Obama is an orgasmic love fest compared to the downright hatred that Democrats have for President Trump...

No.. It's shocking that Democrats would deign to work with Hitler...

How do ya'all feel that Democrat Leadership is working WITH this guy??? :D

I feel great that they are working WITH Trump -- that's their freaking job! That you seem shocked by this just shows how twisted conservative thinking has become!

I realize the Republicans refused to work with Obama for 8 years, but their refusal had nothing to do with any political or philosophical differences of opinion. They decided to vote against any piece of legislation that would be viewed positively by the American public, regardless of the damage doing so would cause their constituents the day Obama first took office. Republicans chose not to represent their constituents and instead served only their party's interests.

Democrats have always been willing to support good legislation, regardless of who introduces it.

It wasn't the Dem's agreeing to follow Trump's lead, it is the other way around! The Dems went in and pitched their plan and Trump signed on to it.

I always suspected we would eventually get to something like this point, but at maybe 5 years into the Trump Presidency.

I have feeling Mueller's latest barrage is what triggered Trump acting all bipartisan...to the bafflement of Reps & Dems alike.

Now doesn't THAT sound familiar!! :D

I prefer to use the freezing point conversion:

C×9/5+32=F
F-32×5/9=C

JL

The same could be said for Lefties as well..

Funny how it works both ways :D

Hehehehehehehehehehehehe

So, NOW... BERNIE is accused of Russia Collusion.. :D

I just LOVE Blue on Blue.... :D

"In reality?" Don't say, 'in reality', it makes you sound stuffed with yourself.

You could say 'the consensus is..', but that would work against your point, as the consensus seems to be that she's a centrist.

“I could see not liking her terribly much because she’s not a great politician,” Maher continued, “but if you really hate Hillary Clinton, you were molested by a real estate lady. I just don’t get it. She’s a bland centrist. This is not Che Guevara in a pantsuit.”

Democrats dread Hillary's book tour
Reliving the 2016 nightmare is the last thing the party needs right now, many say.

Political reporters gripe privately (and on Twitter) about yet another return to the campaign that will never end. Campaign operatives don't want the distraction, just as they head into another election season. And members of Congress from both parties want the focus on an agenda that’s getting more complicated by the week.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/hillary-clinton-book-tour-democrats-242419

NOT-45...

The gift that keeps on giving and giving....

To Republicans.....

Between NOT-45 being slammed mercilessly and Democrat leadership actually working WITH President Trump...

I can imagine some Democrats are fit to be tied... and bound.. and gagged... and carted off to the rubber room.. :D

Oh it's a great time to be me.. :D

I said it back in January...

If Democrats would just wise up, they would realize that they could get more of the agenda if they worked WITH President Trump instead of vilifying him at every turn..

Apparently, Democrats have wised up.. :D At least the Democrat leadership has....

I am a pretty smart guy if I do say so myself..

And I do!! :D

After a YEAR of claiming Trump is Hitler, Trump is incompetent, Trump is a clown, Trump is every evil, stoopid and wrong thing in the entire universe...

After an entire YEAR of all of that..

How do ya'all feel that Democrat Leadership is working WITH this guy??? :D

So, you admit that President Trump did an awesome thing, right?? :D

Speaking of deals with Democrats, Wednesday will go down in Trumpian history as the day "Chuck and Nancy" (as he put it) began working with Trump -- to advance the Democratic agenda.

So, you are giving President Trump the credit too??

Right??? :D

Or he could just be putting the screws to the GOP leaders to shut down the Russia investigations?

Trump is like Irma - a sharp turn to he left might look like respite for a moment, but turn out to be the worst possible thing in the long run. Trouble is, right now, that's completely unpredictable.

Do I get any credit for being able to translate the two in my head?

:-)

(((F+40)/9)*5)-40 = C

Easy! Um, let's see... 451F would be either 232C or 233C...

(Learned this trick while living in Europe)

Works the other way, too:

(((C+40)/5)*9)-40 = F

The trick is that -40 degrees is the same on both scales...

-CW

And the infrastructure for it is already in place (though it might need some beefing up). This is right up Trump's alley - slapping his name on something that already exists and taking credit.

I actually thought about the old Fahrenheit thermometer when I read FTP last week and wondered if y'all are ever going to get with the new program. :)