That President Trump is evil incarnate and can't do ANYTHING that isn't evil, nefarious and heinous..

You don't have to ignore everything - just the nonsense.

I know what you're thinking! :)

Exactly.. :D

You don't have to ignore everything - just the nonsense.

I know what you're thinking! :)

Because you toe the Party line...

I don't.. :D

But, I'll tell ya what.. I'll ignore Victoria for a week starting right now..

We'll see how it goes...

I am sure you do.. :D

Just as I am sure that if it happened to you on a constant basis, you would feel differently.. :D

It's kewl.. I'll handle it.. :D

I strongly disagree ...

And that just cannot be allowed to happen..

You should know that, Michale! :)

But here's the thing..

Can you remain silent thru all the "lies" that Trump and Republicans say???

Can anyone here??

No, ya'all can't.. Because those "lies" must be challenged...

Right???

So how is Victoria's lies any different??

How can I let her personal attacks and her childish name-callings go without challenge??

We were having a nice debate and discussion... She shows up and immediately starts with the personal attacks and name-calling..

And I am supposed to just ignore it??

Why??

You should know that, Michale! :)

You must trust me on this. :)

Could you ignore someone who spewed personal BS about you on a daily basis??? Who'se *SOLE* reason for being here is to harass you and attack you???

I don't think you could.. But if you could.. Well, yer definitely a better person than *I*... :D

You must trust me on this. :)

Oh, she'll respond.. I know my stalker... She will definitely respond.. :D

We WERE.. But I am not going to let such BS go unchallenged...

She wants to "debate" by personal attacks and BS.. Then that's how we "debate"...

And, watch your language ...

I softened it for your sensitivities :D

We were having such nice conversations and debates and then the lying biatch shows up..

No facts, no proof... Just more and more BS...

"YOU RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC DEPLORABLE!!!! GET OUT OF MY FACE!!!!"
-Democrat Party

They hate middle class workers, they can't relate to middle class workers and they can't win elections without middle class workers..

Here's the problem as I see it. Your hate for the Democratic Party is alive and well. Your creative nonsense that the "Democratic Party/Antifa" will beat somebody over the head with a baseball bat is an exercise in playing identity politics... the very thing you claim to abhor. You claim to have a problem with lumping and labeling, but you seem oblivious to the fact that you are... in FACT... the biggest lumper and labeler on this board; you only have a problem with others doing it to you while you continually do it to others. It would serve you very well to realize that your Orange Idol came to power using the identity politics of white male grievance, the same white identity politics the Republicans have been playing for decades... only exponentially so for Benedict Donald.

Exactly... NOT-45 is the quintessential Democrat and that is the EXACT attitude that Democrats have.. If they don't march lock-step with the agenda of the Democrat Party, they are "deplorables" and only worthy of scorn and violent attacks and assaults...

Oh, oh... my turn: Donald Trump is the quintessential Republican Neo-Nazi Fascist, and that is the EXACT attitude that Republicans have. If people don't march lockstep with the agenda of the Neo-Nazi Republican Party, they are "animals" and "stupid" and only worthy of scorn and violent attacks and assaults... ISIS style by running them over with a vehicle... "not even people" according to Eric Trump.

Your ever present hatred for Hillary aside, I know a lot of Democrats, and they are not violent unless provoked or defending themselves. For somebody who whines continually about being lumped and labelled by Hillary, you are seemingly oblivious to the FACT that you've got this propensity yourself to lump all Democrats into one basket and label them as people who violently attack and assault others. Did it ever cross your mind that you're doing EXACTLY to Democrats what you claim to abhor?

In case you missed it, my point here is this: You're projecting your hatred onto others. Your hatred for Hillary and Democrats is well-documented. You reiterate over and over how much Democrats hate everybody who disagrees with them, but I haven't found that to be the case, and I have friends who identify as Democrats, Republicans, and NPA; none of them are violent people unless they're defending themselves, and the majority of them have sworn to protect our country against enemies foreign and domestic.

Unless the Democrat Party radically changes it's course, there will never be another Democrat Majority in our lifetimes...

You heard it here first..

For probably the 50th time, and here you go again with your creative nonsense as if it's something brand new. *LOL* The pendulum always swings back, and it will so again, particularly since Benedict Donald is painting the Republican Party into a corner. Or perhaps you're just planning on a very, very short lifetime. :)

Very nice, Don! :)

You heard it here first..

And I am sure ya'all are scoffing at that prediction..

Just as ya'all scoffed at the prediction that we would have President Trump. :D

I'm not talking identity politics because I agree with you and Michale on that score.

Ya'all can't see me now, but I am blushing.. :D

Here's the problem as I see it..

"I am really concerned about my stagnant wages and the fact that I can't seem to get ahead"
-Joe SixPack

"You should be more concerned about which bathrooms transgendered should be able to use!!"
-Democrat Party

"Well, gee.. I am sure that's important :^/ but I am talking about feeding my family.."
-Joe Sixpack

"YOU RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC DEPLORABLE!!!! GET OUT OF MY FACE!!!!"
-Democrat Party

And, for good measure, the Democrat Party/Antifa pulls out a baseball bat and starts beating Joe Sixpack over the head...

And THAT is exactly the problem the Democrat Party faces...

They hate middle class workers, they can't relate to middle class workers and they can't win elections without middle class workers..

Something's gotta change and I can assure ya'all that it's NOT going to be the middle class workers...

I think one of Secretary Clinton's most consequential mistakes of her last presidential campaign was uttering the phrase 'basket of deplorables'. In fact, that may have been the most critical factor in her loss.

Exactly... NOT-45 is the quintessential Democrat and that is the EXACT attitude that Democrats have.. If they don't march lock-step with the agenda of the Democrat Party, they are "deplorables" and only worthy of scorn and violent attacks and assaults...

Unless the Democrat Party radically changes it's course, there will never be another Democrat Majority in our lifetimes...

You heard it here first..

The problem with that is Democrats will have to give up identity politics to align itself with middle class workers..

And Democrats have PROVEN that they are unwilling to do that...

In the context of the Trump era where governing is of, by and for the base, Democrats need to actually be inclusive instead of talking about being inclusive. I'm not talking identity politics because I agree with you and Michale on that score. I'm just talking about making sure the political rhetoric, especially at Democrat rallies and such, does not in any way, shape or form pit one group of Americans against another.

I think one of Secretary Clinton's most consequential mistakes of her last presidential campaign was uttering the phrase 'basket of deplorables'. In fact, that may have been the most critical factor in her loss.

Sorry, I couldn't resist. I'm not that strong

1.) C.W.'s 6 points from above; minimum wage hike, overtime pay, paid sick leave, paid vacation time, medicare public option, and expanded E.I.C.

2.) Don Harris's network of small contribution donors. Bernie Sanders proved this was possible, and Elizabeth Warren is on board with it, though Kamala Harris is not.

3.) Michale's prescription to drop identity politics. White resentment works for Republicans but the reverse is not true for Democrats.

This doesn't mean Democrats no longer support a liberal social agenda. Only that progressive liberal economics should take center stage.

Combine Joe Biden's statesmanship, Bernie Sanders's populism, and Elizabeth Warren's fortitude. What do you think?

https://www.ft.com/content/180127da-8e59-11e7-9580-c651950d3672?emailId=59abdd595e358c000411be1c&segmentId=ce31c7f5-c2de-09db-abdc-f2fd624da608

Senator Biden is also the most vocal Democrat on the importance of unions in the labour agenda and I'm sure he understands how the union movement needs to adapt to a 21st century economy.

It is truly sad that most Democrats need to be reminded of this.

I can think of one Democrat who doesn't need to be reminded of what it means to be a Democrat and who understands very well what went wrong for Democrats in the 2016 presidential election and his name ain't Clinton.

Yep... "Fight for $15" because people apparently aren't interested in policy details and how a $15 minimum wage is not sustainable in many rural areas in the South, and people will basically believe anything and seem to want to be lied to these day so... roll with it, I say. :)

Apologies for not approving your comment to last week's single-payer article until now.

Your comment is now up:

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/08/31/selling-single-payer-as-a-hassle-free-option/#comment-108611

and you should be able to post without being moderated from now on.

Sorry for the delay, again. Mea culpa maxima and all that...

:-)

-CW

This is basically what left wing parties right up to Clinton/Blair fought for.