Oh, thank you; I will check those out later today.

Hey, JL, guess who is hosting SNL this coming Saturday. It's none other than The Rock. I hereby demand a skit where Alec Baldwin as Trump opens a door in the Oval Office, and there stands Obama getting mad as hell and turns into The Rock Obama.

Make it happen SNL! :)

i know it's on vimeo and hulu as well, maybe one of those will work. or just google 1976 debate snl and switch the filter to 'videos' and click links til one works... amazing how even back then they were discussing many of the same issues we do today.

JL

the rock obama was great, right? for that matter, so was chevy chase as gerald ford! did you try the ford-carter debate link? notwithstanding a few words we would no longer use, it's quite amazing how much of that stuff still holds up today.

I loved The Rock Obama so much; I had forgotten how much until I watched your link. From there I discovered another link and another link, and just kept watching and laughing. :)

I tried to watch the 2 other links from SNL earlier, but I got a screen with a frowny face saying: "The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Sorry about that." I love Chevy so I need to find a working link and make me a margarita in my Wally World Mug and watch it! :)

Yep.

the rock obama was great, right? for that matter, so was chevy chase as gerald ford! did you try the ford-carter debate link? notwithstanding a few words we would no longer use, it's quite amazing how much of that stuff still holds up today.

JL

Great article by Charlie Sykes and so very true; he's living proof that not everyone who votes Republican has completely shut down to reality and fallen victim to the affliction of deflection.

It's sad how the so-called GOP that used to refer to itself as the "party of personal responsibility" has now become the party of deflectors and blamers and enablers. They can't really defend the con artist they were dumb enough to vote into office so they deflect, blame, and scream "fake news." They actually thought the con artist was going to be their "champion," but he turned out to be President Pathological Whiny Little Bitch in Chief.

Trump hasn't become their champion, but they sure have become Trump's whiny little bitches... falling and crawling into their safe spaces because they can't defend him.

Yep!

According to Charlie, it's elementary: that's all they've got, kiddo.

Great article!

-R

Loved that! Put a huge smile on my face.

And stop with the "Patriotic" bullshat! The moment you start up with that you're basically announcing that your position isn't strong enough to stand on its own without the need of insults.

-Russ

Here is how it works: Rather than defend President Trump’s specific actions, his conservative champions change the subject to:
(1) the biased “fake news” media,
(2) over-the-top liberals,
(3) hypocrites on the left,
(4) anyone else victimizing Mr. Trump or his supporters and
(5) whataboutism, as in “What about Obama?” “What about Clinton?”

What may have begun as a policy or a tactic in opposition has long since become a reflex. But there is an obvious price to be paid for essentially becoming a party devoted to trolling. In the long run, it’s hard to see how a party dedicated to liberal tears can remain a movement based on ideas or centered on principles.

Conservatives will care less about governing and more about scoring “wins” — and inflicting losses on the left — no matter how hollow the victories or flawed the policies. Ultimately, though, this will end badly because it is a moral and intellectual dead end, and very likely a political one as well.

My only disagreement: "it's hard to see how…can remain a movement based on ideas or centered on principles" -- that ship has sailed.

I have said this before, but let me reiterate, Sgt. Schultz knows perfectly well that Dems didn't rush the ACA through because he and I were both commenting on this blog throughout that process. That looooong process. There was passionate debate, there was rage on my part when the Public Option wasn't included, etc. Whatever one thinks about the ACA, any statement to the effect that it was "pushed through" is abject bullshit, and Schultzie knows it. He was there.

"Prosecutorial Discretion" is just a politically correct way of saying Obstruction Of Justice....

No, it isn't, but making a statement like that as if it's a fact is a really good way of showing you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. *LOL* :D

Meyers didn't mince words in his closing argument, saying, "The bottom line is this: Republicans rushed this bill through for ideological reasons, despite the fact that every analysis shows it would cut taxes for the wealthy; raise premiums for older, sicker people; and kick millions off insurance."

So what's Meyer's point???

Meyer's made his point while you flailed around and missed Meyer's point with your same old lame "false equivalency" BS argument.

No, you can't simply change "REPUBLICANS to DEMOCRATS" and the statement is still accurate. Democrats didn't rush anything through because they spent well over a year working on their health care bill, months and months of revisions, amendments and debates, and simply spewing back the rhetoric you were spoon-fed from the right-wing propaganda machine doesn't make it true. Democrats didn't lower taxes on the rich either... exactly the opposite. I could go on, but facts don't seem to matter to you... just slapping that one size fits all false equivalency argument on nearly everything because it's infinitely easier to do than actually arguing the merits of a statement.

i liked dwayne johnson as "the rock obama"

Oh, JL, thanks! I love those SNL clips. I ended up watching 30 minutes of these "The Rock Obama" skits. :)

It never occurred to me that 'poverty' could be considered a straw man in a conversation that should be about Human Rights, not American foibles.

All of the countries that you listed have had both good and bad experiences with America, and America has an equally checkered history with most of them.

So what?

The point of the Greenwald article was his presumption that embrace of dictators and abuse of other countries is 'central' to American foreign policy, to which I reply 'bullshit'.

The fact that (until now) both Republican and Democratic leaders have been willing to make alliances with leaders whose policies we don't wholly support is neither endorsement of, nor necessarily helpful to those leaders. We act in America's best interests, and some of those interests include our own national security.

As President Teddy noted, a soft voice and big stick are useful on the world stage in that instance.

But go on with your false equivalences, carry buckets of water for much worse regimes, and by all means, never acknowledge America as the shining city on the hill that the rest of the world looks up to. Wouldn't want to burst your bubble.

There isn't much room left there, what with the way Dumpfy has shoved the Constitution up the GOP's collective tush. That's why they're all walking around wincing with every step.

You just couldn't stay away, and the "principles" that caused your "outrage" and departure are now being set aside despite having been given as your justification for leaving.

How could I have ever perceived that the wrong way?

A

Democrats ARE Patriotic Americans, and a lot of them don't see a lot of patriotism in the current administration, who would rather collude with Russians than bargain with Democrats. It isn't the least bit patriotic to let the air and water get polluted, to hand our children's education to mercenary corporations, or to force our sick and elderly to spend their savings on healthcare. Take the Right's faux patriotism and stick it where the flag don't wave.

"Sure, Trump can meet with Kissinger"

The issue was Hillary's support for Kissinger's right wing approach that proves the point Greenwald was making... why are you changing the subject to Trump?

"The truth is, that American virtue speaks for itself, and is evidenced by its role in liberating millions, nay, billions from poverty and oppression. We may have a few mistakes to apologize for along the way, but our intentions and goals remain the very embodiment of decency, and are recognized as such by billions of folks around the world who look to us for hope, the opinion of Mr. Greenwald notwithstanding"

Nice attempted straw man in there by changing the debate to include "poverty".

Those "few mistakes include"

Saudi Arabia
Egypt
Turkey
Ukraine
Honduras
Guatamala
Panama
Mexico
Colombia
Argentina
Chile
Brazil
Haiti
Iraq
Iran
Libya
Syria
Jordan
Palestine
Yemen
South Africa
Namibia
Tanzania
Morocco
Tunisia
Somalia
South Korea
Vietnam
Cambodia
Laos
Indonesia
Philippines
Myanmar
Pakistan
Afghanistan
etc.
etc.
etc.

The people in those countries know the history and do NOT "look to us for hope"... but do try to substantiate that claim. I'll wait.

How is supporting military coups against democratically elected leaders comparable to "our intentions and goals remain the very embodiment of decency"?

Who are the "billions" you include in our "liberation"?
Cite them, and show your math.
Are you counting those who liberated themselves despite our support for the coups that ended their democracies or our support for their oppressive autocrats/authoritarians/dictators/monarchs?

Are you unaware of the true number of "mistakes"?
World history?

Do you support Rex Tillerson's recent statement at the State Department?-
“In some circumstances, if you condition our national security efforts on someone adopting our values, we probably can’t achieve our national security goals,” Tillerson said in a speech to State Department employees meant to outline to what “America First” means in diplomatic terms. “It really creates obstacles to our ability to advance our national security interests, our economic interests.”

That is the Realpolitik that both parties in our establishment duopoly have supported for decades.

"the far left has never been comfortable with that."

Nor the near left.
And for good reason.
But hey, neoliberals being perfectly comfortable praising the wonders of Kissinger is exactly the point of the article Greenwald wrote... yet, like I said already, you feel the need to both defend and deny it.

A

[62] Balthasar: he literally can't do it. To admit a single thing will bring the whole edifice down. It will be nothing but dodgeball until 45 is brought down in disgrace, and then we will probably see denial turned up to 11.

Was it???

Trump doesn't seem to be doing so good by Republicans, eh??

Or, maybe you think that the Russian meddling caused Democrats to lose 1000 seats in less than 6 years???

You see how completely ignorant and untenable your claim is??

It's a fantasy, brought about by hysterical flailing trying to find ANY excuse to cover up reality..

Patriotic Americans think that Democrats suck...

That's why President Trump *STILL* not only wins the election but ALSO wins the Vanity Vote.. :D

Your Democrats suck...

These are the facts.. Get over it already...

Well it was the Republicans who benefited from Russian meddling in the election. I should query the Order of Franciscans instead?

Plenty...

Plenty...

But you don't care about that, because you only care when someone with a -R after their name has Russian contact...

And you only care about Russian contact when you can use it as a blunt weapon against anyone with a -R after their name..

The fact is, the Clintons are hip deep in Russian contacts..

But you don't care...

assuming for a moment that's true..

How many Clinton associates made trips to Russia during the campaign, as Trump advisor Carter Page did?

How many Clinton associates have had to file after-the-fact as Foreign agents as Flynn had to?

How many Clinton associates received millions in unreported income from Russians, as both Flynn and Manafort did?

When was the last time Hillary had the Russians over and it looked like this?

Did I say that it had to be someone who made the comparisons had to bring sanity back to Weigantia??

No I did not. That was simply your perception..

You were wrong... Get over it...

"I said I would check back on occasion to see if sanity had returned to Weigantia..

You claimed I broke a promise by returning, even though I CLEARLY conveyed exactly what I meant..

You said you were leaving until sanity returned, but nobody who made the comparisons has changed their mind, yet you returned.

That's as clear as mud.

A

Says the person who can't see how badly Donald Trump devastated NOT-45... :D

There are just as many ties to Russia amongst Clinton and CLinton associates..

Your Party bigotry proves my point for me..

You don't CARE about those ties because you are enslaved by Party...

Ah well, that's the problem with know-nothing-see-nothingers.

Well then, let me be of assistance. Can you explain:

Why so many of Trump's associates, and Trump himself, have so many ties to Russia's oligarchy? It confounds logic that it's just a huge coincidence.

If those meetings were innocent, why hide them at all? Jared had to be confronted with documents before he acknowledged that he'd 'neglected' to report meetings with Russians.

Why refuse to provide even basic documents, like Tax returns, if there's nothing to hide?

Why lie blatantly and constantly about shit, both insignificant (like crowd size) and weighty (like wiretaps)? Is it a form of tourettes?

You descended to name-calling first..

By your own standards, it's you who has no argument..

Further, I don't *NEED* to come up with an argument..

NOT-45 is a disgrace and MY chosen candidate is President..

My argument.... and your LACK of argument... is self-evident... :D

But we'll always have Weigantia... :D

Descends to "bitch" again because he can't come up with an argument. Sad.

What's your obsession with Donald Trump's penis???

can't go past the election because that would force him to look a the smoking wreckage his beloved is making of the presidency and the rule of law and America's reputation around the world.

That's your assessment.. But it's the assessment of a person who is dining on sour grapes and massive amounts of crow...

America is great again.. Jobs are up.. Illegal immigration is down.. And Lefties are crying and whining six ways from Sunday...

What's not to love!!?? :D

It's awesome!!!!

Your constant references to the election are much like Humpty Trumpty's constant references to his (falsified) election numbers and (pathetic) inauguration turnout, only he gets to tell the lies, all you get to do is repeat them. Sad.

ANd yet... ANd yet.. ANd yet...

YOUR bitch lost and President Trump is doing great... :D

Happy Days Are Here Again... :D

https://cdn20.patchcdn.com/ap/22877253/20170510/123026/styles/T600x450/public/article_images/ap_17130556900842-1494430811-8948.jpg

Sure, Trump can meet with Kissinger, but does he understand a word the man says? My money is on "no".

Greenwald is right about one thing, Realpolitik has been a thread in international diplomacy and American policymaking since it was first conceived, and the far left has never been comfortable with that.

I find it somewhat ironic that Greenwald should choose as an example Jimmy Carter, who went out of his way to mitigate that by connecting American foreign policy to the Human Rights agenda while in office, a move that greatly distressed the Soviets (and American conservatives) at the time.

And in this latest diatribe, Greenwald finds himself carrying water for the Russians, who are again chafing at being called out for human rights abuses within their borders. The giveaway is this quote from the article:

"Can anyone possibly believe that — even when U.S. leaders paid lip service to human rights improvements — there was anything remotely genuine about it? Condemning human rights abuses is an instrument that the U.S. cynically uses to punish adversaries."

Couldn't have been said better by comrade Putin himself.

The truth is, that American virtue speaks for itself, and is evidenced by its role in liberating millions, nay, billions from poverty and oppression. We may have a few mistakes to apologize for along the way, but our intentions and goals remain the very embodiment of decency, and are recognized as such by billions of folks around the world who look to us for hope, the opinion of Mr. Greenwald notwithstanding.

Well Sarge, the "I see NOTHING! I know NOTHING!" suits you beautifully. Your constant references to the election are much like Humpty Trumpty's constant references to his (falsified) election numbers and (pathetic) inauguration turnout, only he gets to tell the lies, all you get to do is repeat them. Sad.

https://www.facebook.com/senatorsanders/videos/10155909970552908/

Good.

And yet your bitch not only LOST a rematch, she ALSO lost in the vanity vote!!! :D

And it was a LEFT WING rag who conducted the rematch....

And your bitch STILL lost!!!! :D

Explain that...

Deplorables LOVE their Idiot-in-Chief because he expresses their every instinct perfectly.

And your hero lost to that "idiot in chief"....

So that doesn't say much for her, now does it?? :D

But I'll give you this, Schultzie, It IS easier to get out of bed each day when you aren't weighed down by intelligence, ethics, a conscience, or morality.

So THAT's how yer able to get out of bed.... :D

Face reality, sugar... NOT-45 is a has been.. There are more Democrats than Republicans who wish she would just disappear and let the Democrat Party actually try and WIN some elections...

Patriotic Americans are troubled by the Wanna-be-Dictator-Idiot-In-Chief. Deplorables LOVE their Idiot-in-Chief because he expresses their every instinct perfectly.

But I'll give you this, Schultzie, It IS easier to get out of bed each day when you aren't weighed down by intelligence, ethics, a conscience, or morality.

Look at the entirety of the Democrat Party..

OVER *ONE THOUSAND* political seats lost in six short years...

How ya'all can even get out of BED in the morning is beyond me!! :D

But yeah, it's most likely a ham-handed attempt to scare Comey, which brings me back full circle: HOW.STUPID.IS.HE? Now that he's cut Comey loose, does he think Comey -- also possessor of a hefty ego -- is going to sit there and let him destroy his, Comey's, reputation?

The most positive thing I've been reading about Comey is how much his subordinates loved him. That means something. (HRC was also well-loved by staff and peers -- DT is hated and feared, but I digress.)

A trip to the FBI by 45 was cancelled because staff there were not going to be friendly. I foresee a tsunami of Deep Throaterism, among other things, ahead. Meanwhile, WH staffers now tying themselves in knots trying to deal with the "tapes" question -- is DT taping or isn't he?

As long as you go on and on about how bad Donald Trump is...

I'll be here to point out how much WORSE NOT-45 is for losing to Donald Trump... :D

https://youtu.be/8HsyEvr5Pnw

"katie i'd like to use one of my life-lines, i want to phone a friend"

ha!

JL

'Sides.. It wasn't ME that has re-litigated the election..

WaPoop re-litigated the election and guess what..

Not only did NOT-45 LOSE the Electoral College... *AGAIN*....

She ALSO LOST the Vanity Vote as well!!! :D

hehehehehehehehe

Face it.. NOT-45 is a text-book definition of LUSER..... :D

Waaaaaa Waaaaaaa Would you like some cheese to go with your whine?? :D

but I'll point out that it wasn't stupid to run against a human disaster like Trump,

Of course it wasn't stoopid to run against Donald Trump...

It was TOTALLY stoopid and UTTERLY moronic to *LOSE* to a "human disaster" like Donald Trump...

As bad as you think Donald Trump is, NOT-45 is that much worse for LOSING to Donald Trump...

And, until you can acknowledge that *FACT* you will never have any moral or ethical leg to stand on in your throes of your PTDS sickness....

Really getting tired of re-litigating the election, but I'll point out that it wasn't stupid to run against a human disaster like Trump, but it was pretty stupid to vote for him.

But I think Trump's playing a double bluff on this one: there is no tape, and Trump knows it. He's trying to convince US.

Unfortunately for him, he'll eventually have to admit that, because subpoenas are unforgiving.

As for Comey, my guess is that he'd stand behind every word he's ever uttered.

And yet he kicked YOUR hero's ass six ways from Sunday....

So, how stupid is SHE that she would lose to someone like Donald Trump!? :D

No matter how bad you try and make Trump, it will always make your biatch that much worse.... :D

James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!

The Orange Man has always had the soul of a Loan Sharks enforcer. Or a mobster. Just what is he saying here? Did he "tape" his dinner with Comey wherein he tried to get Comey to take a Loyalty Pledge? (Totalitarian much?) Does he think Comey's refusal to take such a pledge will prove there's no merit to the Russia probe? Does he think it, in combination with his certified letter will just settle the whole matter?

JUST.HOW.STUPID.IS.HE? Or delusional? Seriously?

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55048/trump-russia-finances/

I realize that you are criticizing Balthy and neoliberal Dems for being how you THINK I am..

I'm not sure you are aware of what you are conveying or the obvious implications... ever.

I am not, nor have I ever been responsible for your perceptions of what I am conveying..

I said I would check back on occasion to see if sanity had returned to Weigantia..

You claimed I broke a promise by returning, even though I CLEARLY conveyed exactly what I meant..

Again, I am not responsible for how you wish to perceive what I convey...

And it's certainly not charming.

I don't know why you think "charm" has anything to do with anything..

Once again, one of your skewed and whacked perceptions..

If Trump wanted to end this scrutiny by firing Comey, he may have had the opposite effect. Ask yourself one question: Have you ever seen a coverup with no underlying crime? Neither have I.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-seems-to-be-staging-a-coverup-so-whats-the-crime/2017/05/11/d728c58a-3681-11e7-b4ee-434b6d506b37_story.html?utm_term=.487c05221426

In the end, the most important task is to credibly track down the details of the global financial entanglements that have ensnared this administration from the outset, and that have led to litigation against Trump under the Emoluments Clauses of the Constitution. That is likely the key to unlocking the mystery of what underlying conduct is so terrible that the Trump administration is willing to tie itself into knots and disgrace itself on the world stage to conceal its conduct.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/05/11/trump-firing-comey-worse-than-breaking-law/101526232/

“When I spoke with Putin, he asked me whether or not I would see Lavrov. Now what do I—should I say ‘No, I’m not gonna see him?’ I said, ‘I will see him.’”

Oooooh, 45 is so leaderly and uncompromised.

You do realize I am criticizing Balthy and neoliberal Dems for being like you... not just the hypocrisy of denying it, right?

22

"ANd, if that's what I said, you would have a point.."

I'm not sure you are aware of what you are conveying or the obvious implications... ever.

And it's certainly not charming.

A

https://youtu.be/QP_aZcsq7dU

"it was my understanding that there would be no math..."

I thought it was limited to the more moronic minimal intelligent, bigoted members of the WPG...

I guess it's still the way things are...

Sad.....

ANd, if that's what I said, you would have a point..

But it's not so you don't.. It's the same NON-POINT you made when you were wrong when you said I broke my promise by showing up here again...

I know, I know.. You are incapable of admitting when you are wrong... :D It's part of your charm..

But the facts clearly show that you were wrong..

But selective enforcement does tend to harm credibility and undermine the concept of rule of law.

Agreed... Especially when such selection is solely and completely based on a political agenda...

The obstruction of justice by the Obama administration in the prevention of prosecution for war crimes including torture, and the massive frauds on Wall Street can't be ignored.

That said, the two wrongs make a right defense by our resident trumpling is of course nonsense.

Both are wrong, and all such crimes should be prosecuted.

But selective enforcement does tend to harm credibility and undermine the concept of rule of law.

A

Re: #18

Word....

The above was rated the World's Funniest Joke a few years ago.

THAT's what passes for funny??? :eyeroll:

"Greenwald, again. His favorite source lives in Russia right now, y'know.
Asserting that right-wing ideologues like Kissinger and Kirkpatrick are 'central' to US tradition is akin to FOX's habit of equating the SDS and Black Panther movements to left-wing doctrine. While those people and movements certainly existed, they were never 'central' to American ideology, which for most Americans, and much of the rest of the world, remains: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Oh, and spreading Democracy."

Geez dude.
You obviously didn't read the article.

But thanks for three good laughs.

The first is mentioning left wing movements which never had any power and were attacked by the right wing establishment duopoly (you wish it was just FOX) in a comparison with the "central ideology" of the right wing establishment duopoly... as if your example doesn't prove the very point Greenwald was making.

The second is the attempted guilt by association tactic so favored by right wing ideologues to dismiss Greenwald for using Snowden as a "source" when every media outlet in the country used the material he provided... AND the "lives in Russia" bit as if the right wing ideology shared by our two party duopoly (but enforced by Obama the Democrat) isn't responsible for preventing Snowden from leaving Russia... once again proving the very point Greenwald was making.

And third, of course, and by far the funniest, a Hillary supporter denying the centrality of right wing realpolitik to the two party duopoly establishment by mentioning the right wing nut Kissinger, who Hillary publicly praised and embraced, and whose endorsement Hillary actively sought out in last years election... yet again proving the very point that Greenwald was making.

The central argument you chose not to engage on of course is that both Dems and Repubs have embraced authoritarians and dictators AND actively undermined democracy, taken lives, eliminated liberty, and put our happiness first whenever it suits our national security and/or economic interests... rather than seeking to spread our values around the world.

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And just as a side note, it wasn't all that long ago that you were defending right wing ideology executed by our Democratic president, including murder, right here in this comment section.
So, while a vast number of Americans may be ignorant or in denial about the centrality of right wing policies in our establishment duopoly, you clearly are not.
Either you can't remember the policies you were defending mere months ago, or you are intentionally misleading people in a blatantly hypocritical attempt at political gain against Trump.

And for the record, "much of the rest of the world" is fully cognizant and critical of the hypocrisy in the US policies under discussion.
But the attempted appeal to the majority tactic has been noted.

Just in case anybody missed what this debate is about, I will provide the link I offered in response to Balthy's false and selective history in comment 30 under Comey Out! one more time-

https://theintercept.com/2017/05/02/trumps-support-and-praise-of-despots-is-central-to-the-u-s-tradition-not-a-deviation-from-it/

Isn't it funny how neoliberals feel the need to both defend and deny the reality publicly embraced by neocons, while actually embracing and advancing the same ideology?
It's almost as if they are attempting to keep up appearances to deceive their base of voters.

A

To the extent that Republicans tell me jokes, they are of the knock-knock variety. If Republicans were into humor, AM radio would be full of humor, as would Fox News. Roger Ailes wasn't into humor, although he was into other things. Same other things as Bill O' as it turned out.

The only joke that all my Republican friends like is:

A man hears a knock on his front door. He gets up, and opens the door. He sees a snail on his porch. The man grabs the snail and flings him over the porch rail. The snail tumbles end over end thru the air and disappears over a hedge. The man rubs his hands in satisfaction, goes into his house, and shuts the door.

Three years later, the same man hears a knock on his door. He opens it and sees the snail again.

"WHAT THE HELL WAS ALL THAT ABOUT?!!!!" says the snail.

The above was rated the World's Funniest Joke a few years ago. It is the hydrogen bomb of jokes. If you want to ensure a Republican laugh, you need to go nuclear.

If you want a good tactical nuke at a crowded party, say to clear a path to the snacks or drinks, try a pirate joke.

Q: Why do pirates wear hats?
A: To cover their Buc'in Ears!

Add "yar" and "matey" to enhance the yield.

"Prosecutorial Discretion" is just a politically correct way of saying Obstruction Of Justice....

You mean, like when Obama changed the law to obstruct the justice of illegal immigration...

If the circumstances of the here and now have taught us ANYTHING, it's that "obstruction" is in the eye of the beholder...

And one of the hallmarks of an Imperial Presidency is the fact that they can pick and choose which laws they want to enforce and which laws they want to obstruct..

And, once again, the facts clearly show that it was the Obama Administration who elevated obstructing justice to an art form...

The fact that President Trump is continuing Obama's legacy in that regard is disappointing, no arguing that..

But let's be clear that it IS Obama's legacy...

Now, THAT was funny. Because it is so damned true.

If it's true, we only have Obama to thank for it..

It was Obama who established the Imperial Presidency that Trump is now taking full advantage of...

So, blame Obama for the bananas :D

"I love the smell of bananas in the evening; smells like ... a banana republic.

Now, THAT was funny. Because it is so damned true.

But all humor aside, here is the problem faced by Weigantians..

It's time for Americans to start taking Trump seriously ...

They have based their entire existence on one simple (to them) fact...

Trump is a clown..

For them to now take President Trump seriously would undermine EVERYTHING they have said and thought for the last year and a half..

It would force them to admit ...*GASP* *HORROR OF HORRORS*.... that they were wrong...

And, having been here for wha?? going on 12 years now..??? I think I can say with complete authority that no one here (NEN) can admit when they are wrong...

So, that's the dilemma.. They CAN'T take President Trump seriously...

So, they just wallow in their PTDS....

Here's a little cop humor for you.. :D

COP: Turn around!!!
Scumbag: Every now and then I get a little bit lonely
and you're never coming round...
COP: Turn around!!!!
Scumbag: Every now and then I......
{{gets tased}}

:D

I completely (kinda) agree...

But these people never learn.. They laughed at Trump's candidacy and attacked him with childish and immature name-calling and what happened??

He won the nomination...

Then these same people laughed and ridiculed Trump and called him MORE childish and immature names and what happened??

He became President Of The United States..

One would think that these people would learn their lesson...

But noooo...

Here they are doing the EXACT same thing that has failed TWICE before and hoping for a different result...

The very definition of insanity...

You mean lies like"If you like your health insurance plan, you can keep your health insurance plan" and "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" and "I welcome the debate on my domestic surveillance programs"....

Do you mean lies like that??

Of course you don't...

Face reality.. Ya'all DON'T give a damn about lying and liars.. You just hate it when REPUBLICANS do it... Ya support to the hilt the liars that have a '-D' after their names...

Ya'all are hysterically up in arms about millions of Americans losing their health insurance under the GOP plan..

But NONE of ya'all gave two shitz when millions of Americans lost their health insurance under the DIM plan...

So, what can we deduce from these FACTS??

That ya'all don't really care when Americans lose health insurance...

Ya'all only care about having some blunt object with which to beat the GOP over the head with....

Party Uber Alles

Change REPUBLICANS to DEMOCRATS and the statement is STILL dead on ballz accurate..

So what's Meyer's point???

But, thank goodness, that's starting to fray, finally, with MSM figures using words like "liar" and "lying" and "lie" when describing things liars say, as well as them doing a whole lot more confronting of falsehoods.

But meanwhile, the comics aren't constrained by trying to uphold an unobtainable standard and can, instead, just tell the truth, wittily.

https://youtu.be/FEH9iqWm_xQ

Just left a response to your comments under the previous column.

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I totally agree! I still love Jon Oliver as well, but his show is weekly and doesn't focus on politics every episode.

He means Wanda Sykeses-es

Gollum ;)