Coulter taking credit for someone else's actions!?

Say it ain't so!! :D

Coulter tweeted on the 26th that she was waiting for Berkeley to tell her when and where she was to speak.

She tweeted on the 24th, "Our lawsuit agst Berkeley filed moments ago."

Don't like the Nazi references??

Do you think that they are over the top and outlandish???

Ridiculous and boorish???

Perverse and disgusting??

So do I..

Another "gift" from the Left Wingery and the Democrat Party...

When in Rome......

In other words, the Left is acting *EXACTLY* as the Left accuses the Right of acting.. The Left Wingery are the fascists.... The Left Wingery are the goose-stepping morons who should try READING books instead of burning them...

And no one, sans our own Grand Poobah, says BOO about it...

THAT's the point...

He may not be lucky in all of his decisions or staffers, or in his own immaturities and dramas. But hand it to him a hundred days in: He’s lucky in his main foes.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-has-been-lucky-in-his-enemies-1493331572

That's my point... Because it's a Right Winger, their school's refusal is perfectly acceptable to you..

But if a public university in Texas had done the same thing to Rachael Maddow or Bernie Sanders, ya'all would have been apoplectic..

THAT's my point..

Instead of working with the school, Coulter ran to file a lawsuit against the school. The school claimed that Coulter had not bothered to speak directly with them about the issue, and they refused to communicate via social media.

Actually, it was the student group that filed the lawsuit, not Coulter..

And Coulter had no business communicating directly thru the school, as it wasn't the school that contracted her...

The point isn't Coulter OR the school...

The point is the blatant hypocrisy... The attitude that Free Speech is ONLY for Left Wingers..

If your speech is not approved by the Left Wingery, that speech will be censored and the person(s) making the speech will be stopped with violence and threats of violence..

And no one here seems to care about that, as the violence and threats of violence are ignored ignored..

And such ignoring renders approval..

That's all well and good..

But when violence is used to prevent others from exercising their free speech, it should be condemned in no uncertain terms..

That's the problem with the Left...By their silence, they give such violence their approval..

There is no blame to place as this story was nothing but fluff! The school had every right to put the safety of the students as their highest priority.

Coulter was not invited to speak by the school, but by a student group on campus.

The school said they could not provide the security needed the date first proposed, and they suggested a date when they knew they could provide adequate security, but Coulter refused claiming it would be the week before finals and that would keep people from attending.

Now, had it been finals week, that argument might have had some legitimacy to it... But not the week BEFORE finals!

Instead of working with the school, Coulter ran to file a lawsuit against the school. The school claimed that Coulter had not bothered to speak directly with them about the issue, and they refused to communicate via social media.

"I'm not back!!!!"
-Bill Paxton, TWISTER

:D

welcome back! hypocrisy on protected speech spans the entire political spectrum. it's always protected when one agrees; the constitutional arguments on limitations to free speech tend to come out only when one strongly disagrees.

JL

One thing I have noticed from reading the comments for the last year is the complete ambivalence and total ignoring of the FACT that the Left *IS* trying to destroy free speech...

We see it all around us, even here in Weigantia...

This commentary is but one of MANY examples..

Notice how NO ONE (sans CW, of course) takes the Berkeley Administration to task for their actions in limiting free speech..

No, everyone here blames Coulter and/or the Right and/or Trump...

The facts clearly show that Democrats and the Left only care about protecting APPROVED speech....

One thing I have noticed lately reading posts from my conservative friends and family is the increase of postings claiming liberals are out to destroy free speech! I'm talking about a very large increase in the number of different posts attacking the Left on this issue.

It seemed crazy at first, but then I realized that this is being done as a buffer for Trump's commenting habits. If they believe that the Left is just out to destroy Free Speech, then the content of what Trump says - no matter how horrible - won't matter to the Right. It really is amazing to see how differently both sides view Trump.

Maher recently brought another right wing provocateur (and performance artist), Milo Yiannopoulis, on his HBO show, and the response from the right was - to punish Milo. It appears the humorless Right doesn't even appreciate its own jokes if it involves making nice with a liberal for thirty minutes.

I've been bringing discussions forward to the new thread for months, because comments on old threads are often missed (and I seem to recall Liz commenting favorably on the idea).

And I would argue that a discussion about extremists like Avigdor Lieberman and Bibi Netanyahu is more relevant to the current column... but that's just my opinion.

Anyway, Mattis isn't legitimizing Lieberman's office, but rather his views... and a "crazy" "nutjob" (as you put it) does need legitimizing. And a joint public appearance is not "demanded by propriety", it's optional... a choice Mattis made.

I think it's an inane argument to suggest that a parliamentary system is somehow relevant to Israel aiding al Qaida.

"of the sixty or so rebel groups in syria, less than half are affiliated with AQ or ISIS"

Yes, well, the Israeli media reported that Israel was covertly aiding al Qaida fighters, so claiming otherwise based on the makeup of the number of groups just qualifies as a cute dodge, not something that is factual or relevant.

Your rationalization that because Israel is "demonized", it is justifiable for Israel to buy oil from ISIS via Turkey might make sense if they were unable to buy oil from other sources... which is not factually accurate.
It certainly doesn't justify our "allies" providing funds to our enemies.

"any opinion you disagree with seems to go into the propaganda category"

It could be related to your arguments tending towards a reliance on propaganda, and in this case, the article that claims Israel is "not taking sides" in Syria while they aid al Qaida and lobby the US to engage in a regime change war in Syria absolutely qualifies as propaganda.

"petty use of foreign policy to drive domestic politics. netanyahu has been very skilled at maintaining his ruling coalition"

You think Bibi refusing to meet the German foreign minister if he dares to meet human rights activists is "petty"?
And you ignore the hypocrisy exposed about your "demanded by propriety" claim regarding Mattis and Lieberman?

Of course, needing to appoint a "crazy" "nutjob" like Lieberman as his minister of defense doesn't exactly make Bibi look all that skilled either, but that's just my opinion again.

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“Following threats of violence during the Parade by multiple groups planning to disrupt the event, 82nd Avenue of Roses Business Association can no longer guarantee the safety of our community and have made the difficult decision to cancel the Parade,” the group said in a statement.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/04/27/portland-rose-parade-canceled-after-antifascists-threaten-gop-marchers/?utm_term=.f86dad9ffb50

Congrats, Left Wingers and Democrats...

This is the country (and Weigantia) ya'all have made...

Enjoy it... :^/

Free speech for me - but not for thee?

coulter is far from unique in that respect. as CW pointed out, it can be extremely challenging to stand up for civil liberties when those liberties are being exercised by groups like the nazis or the klan. further, the waters get muddied when there's harassment or trolling associated with the speech, but the hate group tries to claim plausible deniability.

JL

Ann C. is by her own description a "political polemicist." Anyone with said description has powerful vested interest in free speech. As far as I can determine, Coulter has been very silent about other people's rights to free speech. She is not very strong on a Muslim's right to air travel, which can seriously hamper a Muslim's ability to make a free speech. Can anybody cite an incidence where she actively defended a political opponent's free speech rights? I can't find one. Free speech for me - but not for thee?

Indeed.

And, I think you meant @a02. :)

I think going to an Ann Coulter event would be a real hoot!

for all i know it could be a rip-roaring good time, but i still wouldn't go.

hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but i'd never know 'cause i wouldn't eat the filthy muthaf*cka
~pulp fiction

@a01,

wrong thread.

@neil,

given the current state of affairs, how can one be anything but indignant?

JL

Anybody with a brain knows that the best thing to do to Coulter is ignore her. And everybody knows that the only reason she wants to go to Berkeley is to be provocative. As you say, that is her schtick.

This will sell her a few more books and give her the airtime she desperately needs for her sad little ego (I assume she already has enough money to retire if she was just being mercenary).

At the same time it will allow some unimportant little people to puff out their chests and get indignant.

Sadly, the indignant are running the show at the moment.

Mattis was definitely legitimizing Avigdor Lieberman by participating in an optional event with him.

And as much as you want to believe or spin that Israel aiding our enemy al Qaida is a humanitarian position, and that it isn't "taking sides" in the proxy war in Syria, I think you're position is crazy.

Likewise, Israel and AIPAC lobbying for a US regime change war in Syria is "taking sides".

Lieberman stating he prefers ISIS to Assad is "taking sides".

Israel buying oil from ISIS via Erdogan's son in Turkey is "taking sides".

I don't know why you think propaganda that ignores reality would be convincing. You should know me better than that by now.

And do you have nothing to say about Bibi refusing to meet the German foreign minister if he dares to meet with Israeli human rights groups?

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