Essentially. To be precise, though, the slope of the ground isn't a force. It's a criterion by which one force can be split into two: the weight can be represented as a component pushing into the surface plus a component along the surface. Like x and y coordinates, with the axes drawn relative to the ground instead of relative to gravity.

You don't let me get away with labeling all of the Left...

Yet you DO let her get away with labeling ALL of the Right or ALL of Trump supporters..

Ergo, the *ONLY* conclusion that fits all the facts is that it's Party/Political bigotry at work...

I am open to other suggestions.. But they need to be supported by FACTS... Verifiable and conclusive FACTS....

Got any??

No???

Didna think so..

The analysis stands...

Key word there is "practically"...

I lump everyone who is part of the Left Whinery WITH the Left Whinery..

I make exceptions where warranted...

You're without question the biggest bigot on the entire board, and it's a laugh riot the way you identify bigotry everywhere and in everyone except in your own incessant and monotonous drivel and whiny rhetoric. :) *LOL*

Once again, I respect your right to your opinion..

But it's the opinion of a Party bigot and as such, it's not relevant..

If you make tolerance and respect variable, as ya'all do, then it's no longer tolerance and respect..

It's ideological bigotry...

Said the guy who lumps practically everyone into categories like "Left Whinery" and then dismisses them. You're without question the biggest bigot on the entire board, and it's a laugh riot the way you identify bigotry everywhere and in everyone except in your own incessant and monotonous drivel and whiny rhetoric. :) *LOL*

Yep, yep, yep, yep..

While I don't agree with him on his opinions of the President, he is dead on ballz accurate about the Left Whinery....

Ya'all (NEN) only talk the talk...

And a Vulcan, an Andorian, a Tellarite and maybe even a Klingon...

If you make tolerance and respect variable, as ya'all do, then it's no longer tolerance and respect..

It's ideological bigotry...

The biggest conspiracy of all!

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/12/23/the-biggest-conspiracy-of-all/

I loved it! Most deliciously excellent and so true.

So which is worse: Perpetrating the conspiracy on your children or telling them the facts?

Either way, it seems like they're headed for an eventual come to Jesus moment about lying. Okay, maybe I should say an epiphany and leave it at that. ;)

I was over at a friends house when I was 9 or 10. We were on the same Little League team..

Now, according to you and Victoria, that was perfectly OK....

You do realize how full of shit you are to claim that anyone thinks something is "perfectly OK" that they've never heard before, right? So much for your tolerance and respect!

So you didn't know what religion you were at the age of 9 or 10? Okay then, you didn't know. So all things being equal with one exception:

Pretend like you had heard your parent say "Buddhism," and this is what you told your "friend" who reacted the exact same way.

Pretend like you had heard your parent say "Atheism," and this is what you told your "friend" who reacted the exact same way.

Pretend like you had heard your parent say "Islam," and this is what you told your "friend" who reacted the exact same way.

If that had been MY child, he would have gotten a VERY stern lecture on tolerance and respect....

Honestly? "VERY stern"? For a Protestant, Buddhist, Atheist, or Muslim?

Are you saying that it IS OK for children to totally decimate other children's beliefs, JUST because they are different???

Facts are facts. People of all ages are searching for truth. What you characterize as totally decimating other children's beliefs was a group of children sharing their beliefs. Kids do this all the time. After I was busted for telling the truth, I learned to lie. When an adult talked about Santa Claus, I would tell them that my parents taught me about the bishop who inspired Santa Claus. When a child or children talked about Santa Claus, I would keep my mouth shut and/or shrug my shoulders and feign ignorance. No problem.

Seems to me that THAT is the anathema of what liberalism is..

Anathema to tolerance and respect...

You're preaching tolerance and respect? Interesting turn of events. So okay then: Pretend "Weigantia" is a bunch of kids sitting around and comparing beliefs. Being completely honest, now ask yourself, which are you:

Are you the kid here trying to totally decimate the other kids' beliefs or are you the one who believes in Santa?....... Or both? :)

But I had the EXACT COUNT which is what I said..

You're really not good on details are you? Let's review what you said:

And WHO called the 2016 President Election dead on ballz accurate, right down to the EXACT Electoral count???

So you said you called the 2016 election "dead on ballz accurate," and that is simply not true since you missed two states. Giving you credit on a state-by-state basis (with no disrespect to DC), you may claim credit for a 96% outcome...not a dead balls outcome. :)

Face it, yer argument that I am clueless is wishful thinking and not based on ANY facts whatsoever..

I do wish your memory weren't so sorely lacking and that you had a better grasp of details, but I do not believe I ever called you "clueless." :)

A great start!!! :D

You are better at it than almost everyone else here.. :D

The biggest conspiracy of all!

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2009/12/23/the-biggest-conspiracy-of-all/

Heh. Just in case you hadn't seen it...

:-)

-CW

And yet, it's only noteworthy when *I* do it... :D

Why is that?

Why no comment when we read "The Orange One" or "Orange Fascist" or "little fingers" or "big ass"???

That's why yours is a tough argument to take seriously, even though, if it were equally applied, it would be a valid argument...

Yep....

there's the problem in a nutshell, michale. it's tough to take an argument seriously when it espouses values in the second half of the same sentence that it summarily ignored in the first half.

JL

Apparently they DON'T apply to liberal's children...

instead of being the sole province of white male christians.

The Left Whinery needs to keep in mind that tolerance and respect is a TWO WAY street..

If one wants tolerance, one needs to be tolerant..

If one wants respect, one needs to be respectful...

Facts of life that are overlooked quite often around these here parts.. :D

tolerance and respect are both important, they just apply to everyone now, instead of being the sole province of white male christians.

JL

He asked me what religion I was. I had no idea, but I had heard my step mom say something about Protestant, so I said "Protestant". I guess he was Catholic and this was at the height of the "Troubles" with the IRA or something because he got all quiet and said that he simply can't "respect" my religion so we probably shouldn't be friends...

I just looked at him like he had just grown a 3rd eye or something and said, "whatever"...

Now, according to you and Victoria, that was perfectly OK....

If that had been MY child, he would have gotten a VERY stern lecture on tolerance and respect....

But.. Maybe that's just me..

And to hell with tolerance and respect..

OK...

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one...

everyone is allowed to have and share all of their beliefs, including both the belief that santa claus is real and the belief that he is fictional.

JL

Are you saying that it IS OK for children to totally decimate other children's beliefs, JUST because they are different???

Seems to me that THAT is the anathema of what liberalism is..

Anathema to tolerance and respect...

I am not saying it's not understandable...

I am simply saying it's not OK..

Children must be taught to allow other children their own beliefs, even if it conflicts with their own beliefs..

Isn't that the foundation of liberalism???

And any adult who is a parent will tell you the same...

how many parents do you know who are not christian? there are about six billion non-christians in the world, and once kids get talking, knowing that santa claus is imaginary is a hard thing for any child who knows different to keep bottled up.

JL

And any adult who is a parent will tell you the same...

In the most recent figures available, a Government Accountability Office report titled, "Criminal Alien Statistics," found there were 55,000 illegal immigrants in federal prison and 296,000 in state and local lockups in 2011. Experts agree those figures have almost certainly risen, although executive orders from the Obama administration may have changed the status of thousands who previously would have been counted as illegal immigrants.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/28/team-trump-cites-stats-anecdotes-to-show-dangers-sanctuary-cities.html

Illegal immigrants.. Criminals, pure and simple....

Get rid of them all....

What do you call three scumbags shot and killed in the midst of a home invasion??

A good start....

Of course not.. That would be silly!

There IS no argument..

It's NOT OK for a kid to tell another kid there's no santa claus....

But I had the EXACT COUNT which is what I said..

Face it, yer argument that I am clueless is wishful thinking and not based on ANY facts whatsoever..

You called it wrong... Man up and admit it..

Some people.. Some PARENTS prefer that their child be allowed to be children and enjoy the innocence of childhood without having some immature know-it-all insecure brat spoil and defile that innocence...

did you seriously just start an argument over whether or not it's okay for one kid to tell another kid there's no santa claus?

c'mon man

JL

Ahhhhh Now the story changes.. :D

No, it didn't change... just more details. Details aren't a problem for me like they are for you and your short memory.

And WHO called the 2016 President Election dead on ballz accurate, right down to the EXACT Electoral count???

You transposed two states, remember? So no dead balls on that one. Short memory or lying?

It also displays peevish neediness and you seem insecure to keep yearning for praise over a 50/50 proposition. Neil has actually been more accurate than you on so many things, and his predictions weren't of the 50/50 variety. :)

Not saying that YOU were an immature know-it-all insecure brat....

Really? You wouldn't be lying, would you? Because you know you should ALWAYS tell the truth... unless you're talking about Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny... etc................ Polygraph 101,

I was just speaking in general terms. :D

I was never an "insecure" anything. :)

Ahhhhh Now the story changes.. :D

File this under the heading: Yes, I know we told you to always tell the truth, but here is when you should lie. Very confusing to a small child.

But, as an adult, you see the wisdom of it, right??

Since when has having no idea what you're talking about stopped you from posting it anyway? :)

And WHO called the 2016 President Election dead on ballz accurate, right down to the EXACT Electoral count???

And WHO was so wildly off base as to be laughable?? :D

So, APPARENTLY, the guy who was the former had EVERY idea what he was talking about and the girl who was the latter had absolutely NO IDEA what she was talking about.. :D

Again... FACTS.... So inconvenient for your arguments.. :D

Some people.. Some PARENTS prefer that their child be allowed to be children and enjoy the innocence of childhood without having some immature know-it-all insecure brat spoil and defile that innocence...

I believe you have just rendered your argument impotent.

Besides, I was the same age they were and kind of innocent myself. We were just discussing Santa and comparing notes and talking about whether or not he was real, and I wasn't the only kid saying he wasn't real... but I was the only one who got busted for it.

File this under the heading: Yes, I know we told you to always tell the truth, but here is when you should lie. Very confusing to a small child.

It's a parent thing.. You wouldn't understand... :D

Since when has having no idea what you're talking about stopped you from posting it anyway? :)

No, you have personally insulted me in this manner ad nasuem.. I was simply using your own arguments (lame though they are) when you did the exact same thing you accuse me of..

Cite, please? Why in the world would I have insulted you "in this manner ad nasuem [sic]"? When did I call you a 2nd grader for talking about a politician's physical attributes when I do it myself? That doesn't sound like me. I think perhaps you've again gotten me confused with someone else.

SEPARATED AT BIRTH
Mitch McConnell = Toby Turtle
John Kerry = Bomb Voyage, The Incredibles
Price Charles = Dobby the House Elf
Anthony Weiner = Beavis
Jimmy Carter = Orville Redenbacher (peanuts, popcorn)

I will bust politicians for doing this but not generally other posters. :)

Actually, you did...

Oh puullleeezzzee :^/

I know, I know.. Facts are such inconvenient things... :D

Not for me, they're not! :) Maybe facts are inconvenient for you?

But irregardless of all your deflections, the simple fact is, when you make fun of people's personal attributes, you are acting like a childish and immature 2nd grader and, as such, you render your argument impotent...

Then I guess me and Donald Trump are impotent.

This is fact....

Deal with it... :D

I am dealing with it. People all over America are dealing with it. America has an impotent 2nd grader for a president!

I think you've had a breakthrough here. I'm so proud! :D

Not saying that YOU were an immature know-it-all insecure brat....

I was just speaking in general terms. :D

Or....

Some people.. Some PARENTS prefer that their child be allowed to be children and enjoy the innocence of childhood without having some immature know-it-all insecure brat spoil and defile that innocence...

"Who gave you permission to tell Charlie there was no Santa Claus? I think if we're going to destroy our son's delusions, I should be a part of it."
-Tim Allen, THE SANTA CLAUSE

:D

It's a parent thing.. You wouldn't understand... :D

One witness said of the restaurant rant, “They are a highly respected couple, and Schumer made a scene, yelling, ‘She voted for Trump!’ The Califanos left the restaurant, but Schumer followed them outside.” On the sidewalk, Schumer carried on with his fantastical filibuster: “?‘How could you vote for Trump? He’s a liar!’ He kept repeating, ‘He’s a liar!’?”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/27/schumer-goes-off-on-trump-supporter-at-nyc-restaurant-witness-says.html

Democrats.. :^/

Why am I not surprised.. :D

If you don't want people to think you worship PT, perhaps you should stop referring to the "crass" one with "poor taste" as "a godsend." :)

Oh puullleeezzzee :^/

No. You were talking about me, while I was trying to turn your personal insults back to a discussion about political issues.

No, you have personally insulted me in this manner ad nasuem.. I was simply using your own arguments (lame though they are) when you did the exact same thing you accuse me of..

Nowhere do I claim that President Trump and I are the same,

Actually, you did...

Why do you insist on taking me to task for something you worship in your Orange Crush?

I know, I know.. Facts are such inconvenient things... :D

But irregardless of all your deflections, the simple fact is, when you make fun of people's personal attributes, you are acting like a childish and immature 2nd grader and, as such, you render your argument impotent...

This is fact....

Deal with it... :D

I also got in trouble in elementary school for telling the other kids that Santa Claus was a fictional character based on a Christian bishop of Myra who was known for helping the poor, in particular by paying the dowries of impoverished females of a pious father so that his daughters would not have to resort to a life of prostitution.

Can you imagine having your parent pick you up from school and listen in to a discussion of whether or not you should be expelled for being honest and making the other kids cry?

Some people just can't handle the truth. :)

not everybody agrees about that whole messiah thing. i mean, he was a cool guy and all...

Don't I know it, JL. My father was one of them. He made me study religion as a condition for paying for my education. Which religion? All of them. Dad would say: "Yeshua was a 5-foot dark haired Middle Eastern prophet"... etc.

Dad wouldn't let anyone buy him a Christmas present because he was not a believer. Lucky for the rest of us, Dad was born on Christmas Day. So while many people gathered to exchange gifts and celebrate the birth of Jesus, my family gathered to celebrate the birth of Jesus and Dad (not necessarily in that order), and Christmas wrapping paper was not allowed on Dad's gifts... not even snowmen. :)

Wow, GT... I checked out your link, and that is really excellent, very nice. :)

I am seriously moving San Francisco up near the top of my bucket list. I confess I've always wondered what it would be like to ride an M1 Abrams down Lombard Street. Maybe I could settle for a Jeep... maybe ;)

@kick,

not everybody agrees about that whole messiah thing. i mean, he was a cool guy and all...

So let's all sing out praises to
That long-haired radical socialist Jew
~hugh blumenfeld

http://www.all-creatures.org/murti/art-radical.html

Mea Culpa....I meant the Toranado not the Windjammer... that what happens when you have had a few doses of vitamin V in the departure lounge.

You mix up the dens of iniquity from your youth with the ones of middle age...

Kick....Check out SF in October it is personally one of my favorite times of the year...if you do it right you can check out our fleet week which is a pretty good time and also HSB...which is an awesome time ( perhaps that is because I helped start it and grow it.) RIP Warren Hellman. To boot it is totally free...

http://www.hardlystrictlybluegrass.com/2016/

Perspective is everything. When you see the video that starts with the subject dropping to his knees in what appears to be in an effort to surrender himself peacefully to the police, and he is suddenly tackled and physically accosted by the police officer who seems extremely agitated, it looks like a clear case of police brutality! That is universally what I think most people would conclude from watching the video.

But that video showed only a portion of the events that occurred, and there were important aspects that the video failed to capture. Our perspective changes when we learn to see things differently and are always asking "What prompted this to occur?"

Case in point: The media reported that many witnesses they had interviewed claimed that Michael Brown was putting his hands up in surrender and was taking a knee when he was shot and killed by Officer Wilson. People were outraged because it was clear to these witnesses that Michael Brown posed no threat when he was killed.

One important fact that got overlooked by most reporters, all of those who made these claims admitted that they only became aware of what was going on AFTER they heard the sound of gunfire. None of those witnesses that claimed he was putting his hands up in surrender had viewed the entire altercation between Brown and Wilson!

Witnesses that viewed the altercation from before the first shot was fired all testified that they could see where Officer Wilson believed that Brown was charging to attack him, again. People watching the same movements by Brown just prior to his being shot and killed gave two very different interpretations of the event.

Can I justify his actions based solely on what is shown in the video? No. But I also know that it is just as wrong to condemn the officer based only on what you see in the video. Do you not see how you might have predetermined the officer's guilt since you first learned of it after watching a video from a story that had the headline:

POLICE BRUTALLY BEAT UNARMED TEENAGER ???

When the police break the law, they must be held accountable. I am amazed at the way many "liberals" view the police in much the same way that "conservatives" view the black community -- as a monolith.

As for my comments, I believe you had stated it was wrong for officers to say they thought it was appropriate for them to treat certain neighborhoods differently in how they approached their job. I was pointing out why that has to happen!

For anyone else wondering what we're talking about:

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/place-where-miles-archer-died

That is excellent! Very nice.

San Francisco sounds like an awesome city. I need to get over there and stay a spell and see the sights. Note to bucket list: San Francisco. :)

I will also point out that you have absolutely NO FACTS to support the claim that I "worship" ANYTHING in President Trump, let alone his crass, poor-taste and locker-room antics...

Unlike Donald Trump, God and the messiah He sent are worshiped the world over. If you don't want people to think you worship PT, perhaps you should stop referring to the "crass" one with "poor taste" as "a godsend." :)

For anyone else wondering what we're talking about:

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/place-where-miles-archer-died

:-)

-CW

Deflection..

No. I'm discussing political issues on a political chat board. Donald Trump is the president whom you worship like a messiah and personally disparage just about anyone here who doesn't agree with you. Deflection would be if I insisted you only said that because you were a party slave and a bigot.

We're talking about you, not President Trump..

No. You were talking about me, while I was trying to turn your personal insults back to a discussion about political issues. You want to devolve nearly every post into a personal discussion while others attempt to discuss political issues. You were talking about me... same shit, different day.

But, if you want to claim that you and President Trump are the same?

By all means...

Nowhere do I claim that President Trump and I are the same, but thanks for that glimpse into your thought processes. It explains quite a lot. Please keep disparaging me for something you worship in your messiah. It says so much. :)

thank you for acknowledging my point, since we're absolutely not talking just about terrorists or criminals. donald didn't call for a ban on terrorists, he called it a ban on muslims. he isn't having people deported for crimes against people or property, he's having them deported for standing on the wrong side of a line.

Nice posts. PT can't help his obvious biases, JL; they are built into his DNA. He's just following in his father and Roy Cohn's footsteps. ;)

I suppose that Old Man Trump knows just how much racial hate
He stirred up in that bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed that color line
Here at his Beach Haven family project...
~Woody Guthrie

I will also point out that you have absolutely NO FACTS to support the claim that I "worship" ANYTHING in President Trump, let alone his crass, poor-taste and locker-room antics...

Deflection..

We're talking about you, not President Trump..

But, if you want to claim that you and President Trump are the same?

By all means...

IGNORANT TOOL confesses to being a TOOL. :)

Exactly right and very well said. :)

And, once again, ridiculing someone for a physical attribute is something a 2nd grader does...

You don't do your argument any favors by acting like a 2nd grader...

Why do you insist on taking me to task for something you worship in your Orange Crush? Little Marco. Who would vote for a face like Carly Fiorina? Grab them by the crotch? Any of this ringing a bell?

Please hold a poster on a chat board to a higher standard than you hold the guy you voted to become President of the United States... whom you refer to as "a godsend" and consider to be your "voice." That'll show me. *LOL*

And yet, he has been enormously successful in business, he defeated 17 candidates and devastated biggest, meanest and most well-funded campaign in the history of the world..

That's what you claim. You ignore all the Trump University scam he perpetrated on 5,000 Americans and the multiple bankruptcies in Jersey where he actively screwed one set of his investors against another and broke a provision of his contract that practically guaranteed his casinos would fail. Americans being scammed into voting for Donald Trump makes him a great con artist... NOT a great businessman. If you'd honestly look back at how he campaigned as a populist yet he's governing (so far) as far-right conservative, it would serve you well.

Until you can reconcile those FACTS with your hysterical hatred....

Your argument doesn't hold water...

I don't hate him, and for the hundredth time, this is NOT about me. You want to make it personal and then whine about it being personal. I just call them like I see them based on evidence. You police the board and claim that people need to "reconcile" utter nonsense before they can have an opinion or make a true point about anything. That's just monotonous bullshit. :)

Two... Two people gave him credit.

I remember me and Neil did, and no one criticized me and Neil for our opinion so that means they agreed with us by omission. <---- You deserved that. Maybe people didn't know McMaster enough to have an opinion about whether or not he was a good choice. It's not complicated.

And that lasted barely to the next I HATE TRUMP comment.. :D

Hate would require passion that I wouldn't waste on a con artist. I do think he's an asshole, but my passion is reserved for making sure the asshole doesn't turn our democracy into a fact-free fascist cesspool in order to further his obsession with fame and money. He ran as a populist who was going to help the people and be their voice, but so far he's governing like a far-right fascist by appointing millionaires and special interests and backing legislation that would hurt Americans, particularly seemed designed to stick it to the average Trump voter... older and lower income, covered under the Medicaid expansion of ACA... who put their trust in the con artist and voted for him.

And, once again, ridiculing someone for a physical attribute is something a 2nd grader does...

You don't do your argument any favors by acting like a 2nd grader...

You voted for and regularly praise a guy who ridicules people for their physical attributes on twitter. He also regularly did this to his opponents and their wives... little Marco, what he said about Carly Fiorina's face, how he compared Cruz's wife to his on twitter. I could go on, but why bother? Please give me shit about it every chance you get because I enjoy how ridiculous you sound when you admonish a poster on a chat board for something you excuse in the President of the United States... whom you claim is "your voice" and "a godsend" and you worship like a messiah while taking issue with those of us who think he's a 70-year-old man-child who has been scamming and conning people his entire adult life. :)

At least, that's the way people who are not enslaved by Party ideology think...

Your own argument, not mine..

You are not..

I am...

donald didn't call for a ban on terrorists, he called it a ban on muslims.

And Obama and NOT-45 were against same-sex marriage and the Democrat Party was the Party of the KKK..

But positions change..

Apparently, you don't allow those people with '-R's after their name to, what's that word the Left Winery likes to use....

evolve....

thank you for acknowledging my point, since we're absolutely not talking just about terrorists or criminals. donald didn't call for a ban on terrorists, he called it a ban on muslims. he isn't having people deported for crimes against people or property, he's having them deported for standing on the wrong side of a line.

As I went walking I saw a sign there
And on the sign it said "No Trespassing."
But on the other side it didn't say nothing,
That side was made for you and me.
~woody guthrie

there are thirty million smokers in the US, and a full ten million of them will be anecdotes of smokers living past 80. guess what, smoking still causes cancer, and illegal immigrants are still more likely to decrease violence in the country than to increase it. you are using your anecdotes to support a falsehood and harmful measures against entire cities full of innocent people whose authorities stand up to oppose that falsehood.

JL

if we were talking about muslims and immigrants, you would have a point..

But we're talking about terrorists and criminals..

So, you don't..

and won't be bullied no matter what the personal consequences to themselves.

And if they are willing to actually ACCEPT those consequences, fine..

But they aren't.. They run and hide and expect a free ride...

And THAT rhymes.. :D

If they don't, there should be consequences..

That's the beginning and end of the issue...

i realize you think these actions against muslims and immigrants are justified, but there are a large number of people here who strongly disagree, and won't be bullied no matter what the personal consequences to themselves.

First they came for the Muslims - and we said "not this time, motherfucker."
~april daniels

No, I am talking tens of thousands of anecdotes that are not isolated but rather spread out all across the country..

But the ideology says to minimize those American lives to push an ideological agenda, so that's what the Left does...

you are talking an isolated anecdote, like the guy who smoked a pack a day and lived to ninety-five, and attempting to use it to justify a lie, like cigarettes don't cause cancer.

JL

If you say so.. :D

Tell that to the parents of Kathleen Steinle or anyone else who has lost a friend or loved one to an illegal immigrant..

You are talking stats and I am talking innocent American lives..

One of the VERY few times where the emotional argument is the correct one..

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

First they came for the rapists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a rapist. Then they came for the murderers, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a murderer. Then they came for the drunk drivers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a drunk driver. Then they came for liberals—and there was no one left that WANTED to speak for the liberals.

There.. MUCH better.. :D

stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself
~bart simpson

I think that was Nelson Munz.. :D

JL

first of all, there is zero evidence that being a sanctuary harms citizens. and it certainly doesn't justify punishing them by an actual ill-advised agenda that actually does harm and kill american citizens.

stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself
~bart simpson

No...

Citizens will be starved of needed services because a city government decided to ignore THE LAW in favor of their ill-advised agenda that HARMS and KILLS American citizens..

i cannot emphasize enough how evil i think that is.

I completely agree....

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

~martin niemoller

Once again, President Trump's administration steps up... :D

You seem to be deliberately missing the points being made in that discussion with goode trickle by going off on unrelated issues in a manner that seems designed to whitewash the situation... while failing to offer your own opinions on the subject at hand.

Do you defend the beating of the man who got on his knees and surrendered as the video clearly showed?

If so, explain the justifications please.

A

I cannot refute your claim as the article is now under a PayWall for me..

I'll revisit the issue once I get access to the full article..

From a previous commentary..

The only way I would change it is in emphasis: "They will pass something called a "repeal of Obamacare."

Apparently, you were wrong....

JL

They problem the Democrat Party faces..

To deny this is to deny facts and deny reality...

Implementation: Hand over the day to day operations to your son-in-law.

Sounds about right.

Yea, that's what you CLAIM..

Show me any comment you made against President Trump when he was a Democrat..

You can't...

Ergo, the facts are clear.. You only attack President Trump because he has an '-R' after his name..

"Simple logic"
-Admiral James T Kirk

And yet, he has been enormously successful in business, he defeated 17 candidates and devastated biggest, meanest and most well-funded campaign in the history of the world..

Until you can reconcile those FACTS with your hysterical hatred....

Your argument doesn't hold water...

When he replaced Flynn with McMaster, I believe many people here gave him credit where credit was due. Did you forget that?

Two... Two people gave him credit.

And that lasted barely to the next I HATE TRUMP comment.. :D

That's because your memory is as short as Trump's little stubby fingers.

And, once again, ridiculing someone for a physical attribute is something a 2nd grader does...

You don't do your argument any favors by acting like a 2nd grader...

OK.. So it looks like President Trump is going to do *EXACTLY* what some of ya'all have suggested..

I can only think of one person, maybe two, who would....

When he replaced Flynn with McMaster, I believe many people here gave him credit where credit was due. Did you forget that?

But my guess is ya'all (NEN) will laugh and ridicule President Trump for his outreach..

That's because your memory is as short as Trump's little stubby fingers. :)

That's because it is exactly what he is..

He's a con artist who has screwed over a lot of his contractors, employees, and customers and is taking his bullshit into the White House. He's a pathological liar who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and millions and millions of dollars from his father. He's spent his whole life promoting himself and his self-interests while leaving a trail of destruction in his wake.

And ya'all would have agreed with me when President Trump had a -D after his name..

It's a new day, right? Your brain is wiped, right?

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/02/08/like-a-rug/#comment-94033

Well, I have said incessantly and have typed ad nauseam that I think Donald Trump is a con artist whose primary concern is the pursuit of power and money. I called him "Benedict Donald" and said he was the most dangerous threat to our democracy. If you must label me a bigot, label me as one of those people who are biased against con artists who take advantage of people less fortunate in order to advance their own interests.

If all things were equal and Donald Trump was a Democrat, it would not change my opinion of him in the least. In fact, I don't belong to any party, but if I actually was a member of either the Democratic or Republican Party and Donald Trump became my Party's nominee, I would be changing my Party affiliation so fast it would make Usain Bolt look as speedy as a turtle.

Remember those facts? This has been covered ad nauseam. Try to let that sink in.

I don't give a shit what letter is after that asshole's name. He is an opportunist who ran for president for a short time on the Reform Ticket in 2000 and sported an "I". He then switched back to a "D" after he dropped out of that race on Valentine's Day. Before he decided to run in 2016 as an "R" because he knew exactly what type voter would fall for his bullshit.

Let that sink in because those are the facts. :)

You and I both know this to be factual...

No, I think you have reading comprehension problems if you haven't yet figured out that I don't care what letter that opportunist has after his name. If you haven't figured that out by now, then you need to have your head examined.

Uh... Since you addressed it to me... uh.. yea..

So you think a comment addressed to you can't be about someone else like that asshole Donald Trump? That explains a lot. :)

OK.. So it looks like President Trump is going to do *EXACTLY* what some of ya'all have suggested..

Extend the hand to Democrats and invite them to work with President Trump for the betterment of the American people..

So....

Will ya'all give President Trump any credit for this???

I honestly doubt it...

I can only think of one person, maybe two, who would....

Time will tell...

But my guess is ya'all (NEN) will laugh and ridicule President Trump for his outreach..

But Odumbo checking out a minor girl's ass?? NOT-45 oggling the tits of someone young enough to be her granddaughter..??? Bubba raping and sexually assaulting women???

THAT doesn't bother you at all..

Once again, it's ALL solely and completely based on Party slavery...

That's because it is exactly what he is..

And ya'all would have agreed with me when President Trump had a -D after his name..

You and I both know this to be factual...

You're so vain, you probably think that comment's about you. You're so vain, I'll bet you think that comment's about you, don't you? Don't you?

Uh... Since you addressed it to me... uh.. yea..

"DDDooooyyyyyyy"
Vanillope, WRECK IT RALPH

:D

Maureen Dowd
MARCH 25, 2017

WASHINGTON — Dear Donald,

We’ve known each other a long time, so I think I can be blunt.

You know how you said at campaign rallies that you did not like being identified as a politician?

Don’t worry. No one will ever mistake you for a politician.

After this past week, they won’t even mistake you for a top-notch negotiator.

I was born here. The first image in my memory bank is the Capitol, all lit up at night. And my primary observation about Washington is this: Unless you’re careful, you end up turning into what you started out scorning.

And you, Donald, are getting a reputation as a sucker. And worse, a sucker who is a tool of the D.C. establishment.

Your whole campaign was mocking your rivals and the D.C. elite, jawing about how Americans had turned into losers, with our bad deals and open borders and the Obamacare “disaster.”

And you were going to fly in on your gilded plane and fix all that in a snap.

You mused that a good role model would be Ronald Reagan. As you saw it, Reagan was a big, good-looking guy with a famous pompadour; he had also been a Democrat and an entertainer. But Reagan had one key quality that you don’t have: He knew what he didn’t know.

You both resembled Macy’s Thanksgiving Day balloons, floating above the nitty-gritty and focusing on a few big thoughts. But President Reagan was confident enough to accept that he needed experts below, deftly maneuvering the strings.

You’re just careening around on your own, crashing into buildings and losing altitude, growling at the cameras and spewing nasty conspiracy theories, instead of offering a sunny smile, bipartisanship, optimism and professionalism.

You promised to get the best people around you in the White House, the best of the best. In fact, “best” is one of your favorite words.

Instead, you dragged that motley skeleton crew into the White House and let them create a feuding, leaking, belligerent, conspiratorial, sycophantic atmosphere. Instead of a smooth, classy operator like James Baker, you have a Manichaean anarchist in Steve Bannon.

You knew the Republicans were full of hot air. They haven’t had to pass anything in a long time, and they have no aptitude for governing. To paraphrase an old Barney Frank line, asking the Republicans to govern is like asking Frank to judge the Miss America contest — “If your heart’s not in it, you don’t do a very good job.”

You knew that Paul Ryan’s vaunted reputation as a policy wonk was fake news. Republicans have been running on repealing and replacing Obamacare for years and they never even bothered to come up with a valid alternative.

And neither did you, despite all your promises to replace Obamacare with “something terrific” because you wanted everyone to be covered.

Instead, you sold the D.O.A. bill the Irish undertaker gave you as though it were a luxury condo, ignoring the fact that it was a cruel flimflam, a huge tax cut for the rich disguised as a health care bill. You were so concerned with the “win” that you forgot your “forgotten” Americans, the older, poorer people in rural areas who would be hurt by the bill.

As The Times’s chief Washington correspondent Carl Hulse put it, the G.O.P. falls into clover with a lock on the White House and both houses of Congress, and what’s the first thing it does? Slip on a banana peel. Incompetence Inc.

“They tried to sweeten the deal at the end by offering a more expensive bill with fewer health benefits, but alas, it wasn’t enough!” former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau slyly tweeted.

Despite the best efforts of Bannon to act as though the whole fiasco was a clever way to bury Ryan — a man he disdains as “the embodiment of the ‘globalist-corporatist’ Republican elite,” as Gabriel Sherman put it in New York magazine — it won’t work.

And you can jump on the phone with The Times’s Maggie Haberman and The Washington Post’s Robert Costa — ignoring that you’ve labeled them the “fake media” — and act like you’re in control. You can say that people should have waited for “Phase 2” and “Phase 3” — whatever they would have been — and that Obamacare is going to explode and that the Democrats are going to get the blame. But it doesn’t work that way. You own it now.

You’re all about flashy marketing so you didn’t notice that the bill was junk, so lame that even Republicans skittered away.

You were humiliated right out of the chute by the establishment guys who hooked you into their agenda — a massive transfer of wealth to rich people — and drew you away from your own.

You sold yourself as the businessman who could shake things up and make Washington work again. Instead, you got worked over by the Republican leadership and the business community, who set you up to do their bidding.

That’s why they’re putting up with all your craziness about Russia and wiretapping and unending lies and rattling our allies.

They’re counting on you being a delusional dupe who didn’t even know what was in the bill because you’re sitting around in a bathrobe getting your information from wackadoodles on Fox News and then, as The Post reported, peppering aides with the query, “Is this really a good bill?”

You got played.

It took W. years to smash everything. You’re way ahead of schedule.

And I can say you’re doing badly, because I’m a columnist, and you’re not. Say hello to everybody, O.K.?

Sincerely, Maureen

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/opinion/sunday/donald-this-i-will-tell-you.html

Nailed it!

This failure, as massive of a failure it truly was, really has nothing to do with why Trump isn't worth a ding-dang-damn!

Screwing over all of those Trump University people, mocking a person with a disability, bragging about committing sexual assault, and selling the office of the president to the Russians showed us that about Trump already!

Well, I am sure glad you are not making everything about me.. ;D

M-i-c-h-a-e-l

Wait, what? You're not going to denigrate me personally for the entire paragraph I wrote in that comment about your Orange Crush?

Here, let me spoon feed the comment:

*****
"PT is our president, and as long as he is, it is incumbent upon us to keep a modicum of normalcy about our country. It is not normal for a president to insist his anemic crowds are the biggest on record. It is not normal for a president to insist there are 3,000,000+ illegal voters and every single one of them voted for his opponent. It is not normal for a president to accuse his predecessor of committing a crime because he saw it on Fox News. It is not normal for a president to lavish praise on brutal dictators like Putin and Kim. We can't let this bullshit become normal... because it's NOT."
*****

You're so vain, you probably think that comment's about you. You're so vain, I'll bet you think that comment's about you, don't you? Don't you?

GT is absolutely right: "When will you up your game?"

I love it when ya'all bring up the a person who has failed is not worth a damn, but only if they have a '-R' after their name meme...

The only problem with the bullshit you wrote there is that CW was discussing your use of the descriptive term "great businessman" to describe Trump. It was, in fact, you who declared that Trump was proving to be a "great businessman" because of his handling of "failure." It also was, in fact, you who brought up the "a person who has failed is not worth a damn, but only if they have a '-R' after their name meme." As per usual and as if on cue, that monotonous nugget is all your handiwork.

I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.
-Michael Jordan

It gives me a chance to, once again, TOTALLY DECIMATE that argument.. :D

OMG! You can't really be this obtuse, right? You throw out your SOP bullshit argument and then "totally decimate" your own bullshit, and that's supposed to mean something?

All you've done there is to provide cover for every person on this board whom you frequently denigrate... for if you truly believe it doesn't matter whether a person has an "-R" or a "-D" after their name, then you have to concede that your Jordan quote applies equally to all us Weigantians. :p LOL

When facts and reality collide with Party ideology and wishful thinking...

Democrats are rueing the day that they choose NOT-45 as their champion..

A worse candidate could not possibly have been chosen...

A perfect example of political bigotry...

This is what passes for "facts" here in Weigantia...

Insisting everyone else is an ideological slave while he himself is spewing the Trumpian alternative facts and right-wing talking points like a bleating sheep and policing the board and deeming us not worthy to comment... like that BS could stop us! :)

Well, I am sure glad you are not making everything about me.. ;D

heh

When ya'all's cites include ALL the facts rather than just the facts that support your ideological case, I won't ignore them. That is a promise..

Because when ya'all cherry pick yer facts, I know ya'all are doing but pushing an ideological agenda and no amount of debate is going to change your religion-esque devotion to Party...

Bring ALL the facts or just stay home... :D