OH.... Oh..... what's this???

Oh, and that fever will not be covered by the new GOP Obamacare replacement plan, sorry.
-CW.COM

I guess yer claiming that CW is one of the "sheeple" that's been "conned", eh???

Jeesus, proving you wrong...??? It's like shooting fish in a barrel.. :D

I'll give you a chance to salvage your bruised and battered ego..

Find me an instance during yer guy Obama's years where Job Creation was so high, Americans in the workforce was so high and unemployment went down..

Go ahead.. Find it...

You can't because it doesn't exist..

You lose, snowflake...

What a shocker, eh! :D

And yet, ya'all are calling it the GOP Replacement plan.

For ya'all, it's RYAN CARE...

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/03/07/ryancare-immediately-attacked-by-republicans/#comment-96434
^^^^ CLICK ON LINK I DARE YA!!! ^^^^^^

Again, you didn't used to be this stoopid... Blow to the head recently?? :D

No one wants to talk about the AWESOME JOBS report attributed to President Trump, eh? :D

"Gee! I wonder why that is!!!"
-Kevin Spacey, THE NEGOTIATOR

Oh, I'm guessing they're too busy laughing their asses off. Maybe somebody nice will come along and attempt to burst that bubble you're living in. {see above} LOL :)

And, considering the current JOBS report that just came out..???

THANK GODS they DID lose...

Did you get this excited about the February jobs reports for the last couple Obama years? I'm guessing "NO" because if you had actually bothered to check the most recent prior years' jobs reports for February, then you'd know how stupid you sound to the rest of us.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_03062015.pdf
^^^^^ WELL, GO ON... click, click ^^^^^

Congratulations, snowflake... You are awarded today's living breathing walking talking "ignorance really is bliss" award. ROTFLMAO :)

He was later seen yelling "get off my lawn" from a rocking chair on his porch.

Well, he said he didn't want to jump to any conclusions... so he decided to dive in headfirst. LOL

Ya'all said that Republicans WOULDN'T have ANY replacement for TrainWreckCare!!???

Have you even looked at it or did you just believe what you were told?
http://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/files/documents/AmericanHealthCareAct.pdf
^^^^^^ WELL, GO ON... click, click ^^^^^^

Had you bothered to read it, even some of it, you would have soon discovered that the bill contains amendments to the ACA. So Sean Spicer standing up there on his podium bragging about how much smaller the "R" healthcare plan is... 'cause they're simply amendments to the ACA, and they're still busy conning the sheeple who believe the BS without question. :)

Great! I thought so ...

I missed the Kennedy Centre Honors last December when the Eagles were honoured. Click on the link below to see a wonderful tribute to one of my all-time favourite bands.

And, be sure to keep watching through to the end as the credits roll!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIzB4CcMoLA

I know, right? His mouth was busy writing checks his ass couldn't keep, and one would think this issue is a prime example for the deluded sheeple that were conned by the fascist Cheeto. This is Trump's "read my lips, no new taxes" moment because newsflash, this plan isn't near what Trump promised.

Trump repeated over and over like a trained orangutan: Obama lied when he said "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

So what did Don the Con promise?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJfKdp3bDs

TRUMP HEALTHCARE CON
* There's many different ways to fix it.
* Everybody's got to be covered. I am going to take care of everybody. Everybody is going to be taken care of much better than they are taken care of now.
* I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. The government is going to pay for it, but we're going to save so much money on the other side.
* They can have their doctors. They can have their plans. They can have everything.
* I would make a deal with death, and nobody would die anymore because I have a very big brain and know how to make the bigliest deals.

Okay, I made a bunch of those up {lie}; to be truthful, I fabricated only that last one.

At what point do you realize you've been conned? At what point do you realize he was just sitting there in his ivory tower on his gold throne and making shit up, and now Democrats need to get out there and rub his orange face in it. :)

Questions, comments, insults?

At her request, I made a silent internal vow that I would not use this word when referring to Elizabeth, but I digress in my opinion of post #4 regarding single-payer healthcare for America.

GD... EM nailed it! Every. Single. Word.
{I could not bring myself to expand the expletive.}

When Republicans are drawing up healthcare plans and R-splainin' about insurance, that tells Democrats they've won Step 1... that there will indeed be insurance for Americans. Regardless of two steps forward and one step backward, eyes on the prize because single-payer insurance is where this ends, people. It's not a matter of "if" but "when." :)

OK, OK... I am done gloating for the night.. :D

Gonna watch OFFICE CHRISTMAS PARTY :D

"Gee! I wonder why that is!!!"
-Kevin Spacey, THE NEGOTIATOR

:D

Russia didn't hack the election

There was no collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign...

These are ALL facts.. Provable and inarguable FACTS...

The Left Whinery lost...

And, considering the current JOBS report that just came out..???

THANK GODS they DID lose...

Obama's DNI Clapper stated unequivocally and for the record that there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE of any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia...

You don't get it..

You lost...

Get over it..

No, he was talking about Flynn, and the WH's persistent lying about contacts with the Russians. It's on tape - you can see the context for yourself.

Smith, you see, is still under the delusion that Faux is more than simply a public relations adjunct of the White House.

Apparently, some Faux folks went into the news business to report 'news', not rubber-stamp PR handouts. Surprise, surprise.

Will Smith be the next to jump ship and cross the street to MSNBC? Stay tuned...

Of course, FNC is talking about all the lies from the Left Whinery...

But why let facts intrude on yer fantasy world..

How's that AG SESSIONS LIED bullshit workin' out for ya'all?? :D

How's that RUSSIANS HACKED THE ELECTION bullshit workin' out for ya'all???

:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ECUtkv2qV8

A little Python seemed appropriate.

A

You can't run a country as good as ours if you lie all the time.

Shepard Smith Is Fed Up: ‘It’s Too Much Lying, Too Much Russia, Too Much Smoke’

Canada deports an old guy who has lived in Canada for 60 years, since he was 8 months old....

Sounds like something Trump would do, doesn't it??

http://politicsthatwork.com/voting-record/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/courtenay-resident-deported-to-netherlands-1.4012844

You offered wise advice for a needed course correction in Hillary's campaign, and now you are literally paying for her failure.

Not at all.

You see, Canada has been handed an excellent opportunity on a silver platter. We intend to take advantage of a US retreat from the world stage and replace the promise of America with our very own special version of global leadership.

Look for this new Canadian initiative to manifest itself on a number of domestic and international fronts.

While I don't know enough to know whether or not it's a good thing, many Weigantians have stated that breaking the EMPLOYER/HEALTH INSURANCE connection is a GOOD thing..

Ergo, if the GOP is trying to break the Employer/Health Insurance lock, I would guess that would be a good thing..

Right??

"That's just what Minority Partys do?? When there is a GOP'er in the White House ya'all are going to be acting EXACTLY the same way.."

And lo and behold...

I was dead on ballz accurate..

AGAIN!!!!! :D

If Trump is worried about his name coming up in CIA transcripts, this business deal could be a good reason. Trump Inc. is communicating with folks who are very likely to be under surveillance. Some people have good reason to be paranoid.

You people are just throwing ANYTHING you can up against the wall and praying something sticks..

It's hilarious that ya'all are acting EXACTLY like you accused Republicans of acting during the Obama years..

HAA LARRY ASS!! :D

Kids today!

This is kind of funny, and relates to your comment yesterday-

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/10/former-cia-director-michael-hayden-blames-millennials-for-government-leaks/

He was later seen yelling "get off my lawn" from a rocking chair on his porch.

A

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/rural-america-understanding-isnt-problem

That sounds like the same story that the article on Empty Wheel mentioned being mangled by Breitbart and leading to Trump's wiretap claims.

A

Only to those who have the stench from NOT-45's shitty campaign.. :D

You offered wise advice for a needed course correction in Hillary's campaign, and now you are literally paying for her failure.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/justin-trudeau-pledge-global-abortion_us_58c195d7e4b054a0ea68bf83?aq44e7b9&

It doesn't seem fair.

BTW, the article seems a little bit squishy on the details.

A

Together, Alfa and Spectrum accounted for 99% of the lookups.

The stench coming from 45 is getting really putrid.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/fbi-investigation-continues-into-odd-computer-link-between-russian-bank-and-trump-organization/

45 gets boost from global warming. The irony is delicious. Warm weather (Spring is coming three weeks early across most of the South) allowed construction to start earlier than expected. The fun will happens when the seasonal adjustment for the expected boost in employment doesn't happen next month because it already happened in February.

Azerbaijan is the Disney World of Corruption (happiest place on Earth). The Trump organization has been deeply involved in the nuts and bolts of this project.

There are strict US legal requirements for due diligence against corrupt business practices in foreign countries. Most corporations follow legal best practices, Trump is alleged to have not. (If I don't take the job, some foreign firm gets the money says Trump).

Trump Inc. has partnered with corrupt politicians in Azerbaijan, as well as with elements of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard (a terrorist organization). Failure to practice due diligence in foreign countries is illegal, American businessmen have gone to jail for this. Corrupt businesses are vehicles for bribery, money laundering, both used to finance foreign covert ops against US interests and US allies.

If Trump is worried about his name coming up in CIA transcripts, this business deal could be a good reason. Trump Inc. is communicating with folks who are very likely to be under surveillance. Some people have good reason to be paranoid.

Wages increased!! Number of Americans in the job market increased!! Unemployment went down!!!

EVERYTHING is awesome for JOBS in America!!

Way ta go, President Trump!!!!

Will the President get any credit around here?? :D

Only from me... :D

President Trump is da MAN!!!!!! :D

Let me play devils advocate with this. Suppose Ryan Care squeaks by. Vetoing the bill might be very good optics for Trump. Trump likes to be Boss, and he also likes to be unpredictable. Signing The Bill is a huge win for Ryan, which upstages Trump. Signing the bill will be dimly viewed by the Tea Party, whose foot soldiers are a big part of Trump's constituency. So Trump vetoes, and makes a few suggestions to the Ryan camp about how to make it Tea-rrific!!!

The vetoed Bill is slightly revised (wink, wink), and is quickly sent back to the Oval Office where the now Terrific!!!! product is immediately signed by the Great Man....Who now owns the win, breaking a cycle of POTUS ineptitude in the first 100 Days. Equally important, Ryan is put in his place.

I'm not saying this scenario is likely, but it is oh so Trumpy.

Ahhhhhhh

Thank you....

"DICK!!! YOU'RE FIRED!!!"
"Thank you.."
-RoboCop

:D

perpetually. ;p

but in all seriousness, the filibuster is still in place for legislation as well as supreme court picks. the 2013 rules change only applied to lower court picks and cabinet members.

JL

It's my understanding that the ONLY route to a filibuster is thru SCOTUS nominees..

Am I in error??

the spectators, while confused, seem to be generally happy that at least SOMEONE scored. however, the republicans refuse to score another goal without undoing the first. one referee died on the pitch, and if the goal is overruled some spectators will likely die as well.

Yer absolutely right..

You ARE still focused on football metaphors :D heh

the spectators, while confused, seem to be generally happy that at least SOMEONE scored. however, the republicans refuse to score another goal without undoing the first. one referee died on the pitch, and if the goal is overruled some spectators will likely die as well.

JL

Against what, exactly???

Are you advocating staging a filibuster JUST to stage a filibuster??

That explains a lot. :)

I should hope so... :D

I'm nothing if not patient.

{{chortle, chortle}}

:D

I assume you mean other countries who have single payer..

A> Those other countries have a LOT of horror stories of the evils of their health care...

and

2> It's inarguable that, just because something works in places like Sweden or Norway doesn't mean it's going to work here in the US..

But, let's see how Ryancare works. I suppose it is possible that it could prove me wrong ... stranger things have already happened, you know.

That's what I like about you.. YOU, at least, (for the most part) are willing to wait and see if there is actually something to bitch about.. :D

That explains a lot. :)

Oh, there are quite a few facts in evidence. It's just that, in this particular case, you must also look beyond your nose, so to speak. :)

But, let's see how Ryancare works. I suppose it is possible that it could prove me wrong ... stranger things have already happened, you know.

And, of course, ya'all won't have ANY problem with that because ya'all applauded Democrats for doing the EXACT same thing..

So, no problem with that at all.. Right??

He cares (as he always does) more about the optics.

And, once again, the "HE" CAN refer to Obama and it fits!! :D

If the whole effort falls apart, Republicans are going to be seen as a party which cannot govern even when given the House, the Senate, and the White House. That's going to be brutal, politically.

Just like it was for Democrats when they proved that THEY couldn't govern...

Yep, yep, yep...

The math required to beat the numbers 23 and 3, however, may get a lot worse come Monday. Ryancare is almost guaranteed to leave millions (perhaps more than 10 million) without the health insurance they finally gained under Obamacare. It's designed that way, after all.

I thought it was 20 million!???

Jeeeze, I wish ya'all could make up yer minds... :^D

Those are just the most-predictable numbers from the upcoming C.B.O. report. There may be other surprises as well, in unexpected places. But overall, if the C.B.O. predicts that Ryancare will be more expensive, cover far fewer people, and have a much worse outcome for millions of people, it's going to be a hard enough sell for Ryan and Trump. So far, that's what everyone is expecting from the C.B.O., so it won't come as any surprise to those paying attention.

And, of course, the CBO has ALWAYS been dead on ballz accurate, right?? :^/

So far, that's what everyone is expecting from the C.B.O., so it won't come as any surprise to those paying attention.

So far, that's what everyone ON THE LEFT is expecting from the C.B.O., so it won't come as any surprise to those paying attention.

There... Fixed it for you.. :D

Politically, this may be an impossible lift.

IF....

If ya'all are correct in ya'all's assumptions and predictions..

But, let's look at reality of the accuracy of ya'all's predictions and assumptions.....

I ain't worried.. :D

But, then again, I have never really been interested about all the health care hysteria from both sides of the aisle..

Whatever happens, happens...

K sara connor, sara connor.... :D

If they manage to pass their atrocity they will certainly try to claim all "victory" but I think there's limits to what marketing/PR/disinformation can do when people are either staring at premiums that suddenly went UP while coverage went down, or people who were getting insurance can, once again, no longer afford it. That's just not the kind of thing people overlook.

I don't know if you realise it or not, but you just described Democrats and TrainWreckCare perfectly!!! :D

Apparently, SHE couldn't!!! :D heh

Assumes facts not in evidence...

Ya'all said that Republicans WOULDN'T have ANY replacement for TrainWreckCare!!???

Were ya'all.... WRONG!!!???

AGAIN.... :D

Polling shows strong support for single payer despite the misinformation campaigns.

"Second, a good portion of America's economy is bound up in the for-profit medical industry"

Single payer still has everyone except insurance companies and the paper shufflers they necessitate getting paid or making a profit.

Insurers are only a portion of the portion, and there would be massive economic benefits to offset the economic ding.

Third, Medicare is overwhelmingly popular. Selling a few more Americans on cheaper insurance from a source other than their employers won't be difficult.

Finally, here's old Hillary vs presidential candidate Hillary on Single Payer... it's only 46 seconds long-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG7w3Oey3xs

Her winning slogan... no we can't!

A

On the other hand, single-payer has one huge advantage - it's the only thing that will work!

I'm beginning to think that Ryancare or something like it must pass to prove that single-payer is the only way to go ...

Three caveats though: Americans have been sold a bill of good for years about how "socialized medicine" is bad and there is still a deep vein of suspicion and distrust in the concept among many.

Second, a good portion of America's economy is bound up in the for-profit medical industry. Everything about that presents problems both practical (economic) and philosophical.

Third: Americans are used to getting insurance through their employers. I personally favor decoupling insurance from employment, but, at least in 2009 when ACA was being worked on, majorities of Americans did not like that idea. It may be changing, partly because of the ACA, millions of people were able to get coverage through the Exchanges and people saw it was possible.

That is why my own view was that the ACA was a good starting point, but only a starting point, and that the adoption of a Public Option would help us transition, over time, to something much closer to Single Payer. (HRC favored the Public Option.)

But now, who knows? Repubs have ZERO interest in doing the right thing for American healthcare and wherever things end up, there is likely to be a good deal of turmoil in-between.

Trump promised to make it all "beautiful" and to "cover everyone". Even FOX News fans can tell the difference between having insurance and not having insurance, especially seniors.

Well, people who voted for Trump wanted "change".

All kidding aside, truer words were never spoken.

But, I'd like to talk about the real problem with healthcare in America.

Healthcare in America is infused with politics, problem number one. Healthcare should be a non-political issue. By that I mean that a healthcare system should be above politics, non-partisan and focus on how to provide Americans with the best healthcare, with the best possible health outcomes, all in the most efficient and cost-effective way.

Secondly, Americans must understand that everyone who is alive in America (read: citizens, landed immigrants, naturalized citizens, and, yes ... even illegal immigrants... because you are ALL in the same boat when it comes to health and healthcare) has healthcare needs, whether they are sick or well, male or female. Therefore, everyone who is alive in America and getting older with each passing day needs some form of healthcare insurance.

The most efficient and cost-effective way to insure everyone is through a single-payer system that covers everyone for everything. By everything, I mean starting from the point where in an ideal world EVERYTHING is covered. Now, we don't live in an ideal world so the next step might be to list those limited things that would not be covered. For example, a nation might decide to exclude dental care and/or eye care and/or physiotherapy etc. Or a nation might choose to have all of that covered.

Because, everyone is covered for everything, regardless of gender or state of health, costs are spread out over a deep and broadly based pool which keeps costs as low as is possible. Premiums would be paid for through income taxes and therefore based on ability to pay.

The final thing I would say is that Americans have to get away from thinking in terms of freedom of choice in healthcare because that dog won't hunt, as they say. It is also ludicrous to think that Americans should be free to opt out of healthcare insurance. Just as all drivers need vehicle insurance, all people who are alive need healthcare insurance, to put it in the simplest of terms.

Now, are there problems with such notions as outlined above? Of course! But, they can be solved and I have no doubt that Americans are capable of putting together a single-payer system that would be the envy of the industrialized world. They just have to accept that healthcare insurance is not like any other concept of insurance that they know of and understand that health cannot be insured like any other thing because it is fundamentally different from any other thing that requires insurance.

Questions, comments, insults?

whether or not it's the wrong season for football metaphors depends entirely on the variety of football. keep in mind, this is precisely when the home stretch begins for all the european football leagues, as well as the champions' cup. barcelona completed a miraculous comeback this week to beat paris 6-5 on aggregate, after losing the first leg of the tie 0-4. and if that can happen, perhaps the democrats in the senate can grow backbones and stage a filibuster... too much to hope for?

JL

Sobriety and jet lag don't help ones commenting clarity.

I like this one better...I had to add a graph to clarify where I was heading...

I was somewhat surprised that you didn't mention the whole "dynamic scoring" that I am sure the GOP will use as it will undoubtedly soften the reality of the bills impact.

To bring forward from yesterday's column...

On the things that make you go Hmmm front...

So assuming that the GOP gets this turd called health care "reform" pushed out, it will mean that a bunch of regulations will get repealed, BUT, it also means that new regulations will get implemented.

When one takes into account EO 13771 requiring the removal of two regulations for each new one, the picture gets a whole lot more interesting as there is no requirement for the regulations to be related. I.E. the BLM wants to set a new regulation for mining on federal lands the regulations they remove do not have to be related to mining, they just have to come from that department and result in a "cost savings" to the private party that would have to comply with those regulations. In otherwords when they implement a regulation reducing and simplifying mining inspections, they have to get rid of two other regulations so it is feasible that they could eliminate regulations for oil drilling on federal lands.

Considering that the incremental cost allowance for imposing new regulations is set at not greater than zero for this fiscal year,effectively making it so you do not get credit for any regulations you remove this year.

It begs the question of what else will get " De- Regulated" to allow for the implementation of this " landmark" legislation?