the outcome of that election is a reality you were absolutely right about; more people voted against hillary clinton than for her, and in the right electoral college states for donald to win. to be honest i have no idea whether or not most Democrats have a clear vision of what was elected or why. but i do think that a clear vision would be a lot more successful going forward than reactive protests against the latest outrage.

yes, legal immigrants and visitors have been denied entry based on their religion. and yes, russian influence is greater than it should be. yes, another non-educator has been placed at the head of the nation's schools, and yes, the president's security adviser is resigning. but standing in the streets and shouting only helps if there's someone there to listen, and something unified to say.

i guess that's why i suggested 20/20, less as a statement of what already is, more as a statement of what is desperately needed.

JL

From all appearances and reports...

Democrats refuse to believe that their hindsight is telling them...

But tell me honestly, JL..

Does ANYTHING the Democrats have done to date LOOK like they are ready to face the 2020 election with 20/20 hindsight???

YOUR truth is not factual...

You "push the line?" No. You attack people for disagreeing with your opinions.

You mean like you have done???

All you're doing is making it harder and harder for anyone to claim you're not outwardly a troll when you're obviously enjoying insulting me.

And you are not??

You are in "combat mode" because of comments on a political blog.

How sad and pathetic does someone have to be to say something so pathetic like that??

And you spend your VALENTINE'S DAY on a political blog stalking and trolling...

Seriously, dood.. Everything you claim about me applies to you.. You need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life...

Or you could stick around here and get spanked some more..

Makes no difference to me... :D

YOUR truth is not factual...

You "push the line?" No. You attack people for disagreeing with your opinions.

You mean like you have done???

All you're doing is making it harder and harder for anyone to claim you're not outwardly a troll when you're obviously enjoying insulting me.

And you are not??

You are in "combat mode" because of comments on a political blog.

How sad and pathetic does someone have to be to say something so pathetic like that??

And you spend your VALENTINE'S DAY on a political blog stalking and trolling...

Seriously, dood.. Everything you claim about me applies to you.. You need to get out of your parent's basement and get a life...

Or you could stick around here and get spanked some more..

Makes no difference to me... :D

If the truth about your behavior is insulting, that's your fault.

You "push the line?" No. You attack people for disagreeing with your opinions.

All you're doing is making it harder and harder for anyone to claim you're not outwardly a troll when you're obviously enjoying insulting me.

If the truth about your behavior is insulting, that's your fault.

You "push the line?" No. You attack people for disagreeing with your opinions.

All you're doing is making it harder and harder for anyone to claim you're not outwardly a troll when you're obviously enjoying insulting me.

You mean, EXACTLY like you are doing right now??

No.. I don't do that...

Well, I push the line on the INSULT part on occasion.. :D

But only in response to insults that are directed at me..

Like yours, you little keyboard warrior, you.. :D

Just in case yer confused, THAT was an insult :D

I'm talking to Chris, and hoping that your money eventually stops convincing him to let you troll this comment section so that I can use it.

It also claims that at least one person was convicted for using a weapon of mass destruction against our country and sentenced to 15 yrs in prison.

I am still curious as to why you think this is an issue?? You seem to be implying that there has NEVER been WMDs used against this country. You would be wrong on that because there has been 5 instances where WMDs were used to attack this country.. 3 against our military and 2 CONUS...

Hell, it would be nice if you could address ANY of the points I made..

Barring that, you could just concede you were wrong...

Yea, I know.. I know.. When pigs fly... heh :D

Once again, Michale lies, insults people for no reason, makes up facts.

Which insults would those be??

Which facts did I make up??

Like Listen, I know you won't answer because you can't..

Furthering the 3rd grade playground tradition, yer like the sniveling little follower who, after a kid has been beat up by two or three bullies, you run in and kick the kid and then run away... :D

If you find that analogy insulting then perhaps you should look in a mirror and take a look at how you comment here...

I'm just sayin'...

Well, yer obviously easy.. :D

Exactly how did I attempt to "shift the conversation" and which of my statements were "flawed"...

I know you won't respond to this, but I just wanted to get the questions on record. :D

Well, that was a civil comment. I think we have a prize around here for that use of language ...

Some people just need to watch FROZEN over and over again...

:D

It turns out that this 1952 law was superseded by The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.

In what way???

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2017/02/photos-of-trump-that-assure-us-that.html

So, this guy is STILL dining on whine and sour grapes.. :D

Newflash for you sunshine. The National Security position, like the Valerie Jarret position, is not a "nominated" position, it's an appointed position..

So, it's you who does not have a point...

Since you are so non-ideological... we can expect the condemnation of the naming Bannon to having a place on the founders council and the dis invitation of Mattis and the DNI from those meeting except for when it suits Bannon's political aims?

When you have PROOF of Bannon's intent, as in being able to read his mind then you might have a point..

But you don't, you can't, so you don't.. :D

How about some condemnation for the posting of Jared Kushner ... that whole nepotism thing and intertwined business dealings present no issues...

What posting would that be??

You know what they have in common? both are named to positions similar to Jarrett....

You just said above that they were nominated positions..

Do make up your mind.. :^D

So really my position is no different than I have stated and is pretty non-ideological...While I do not like either namings and I have issues with Bannon that are on par with your issues on Jarret I have kept my powder dry. The president is entitled to his counsel. My like or dislike in in material to the matter. Their political beliefs for their positions cause me concern BUT...they are not in a direct position to do harm to America without us knowing it until it is too late....

And yet you go on and on about them even though you claim to "keep your powder dry"...

The simple fact is, there is no difference between Bannon, Jarret or Flynn.. ALL are appointed positions, ALL are "counsel to the President" positions and ALL can influence the president in ways that are detrimental to the country OR that are vital to the survival of this country..

But you give Jarret a pass because the POTUS who appointed her has a '-D' after his name and the POTUS who appointed Flynn has a '-R' after his name..

That's it...

I sure do.... The real question is do you see how biased you are?

Of course I do.. Unlike you and everyone else here (sans Neil and a couple others) I admit my biases..

The difference between you and me is that MY biases are not ideologically based.. In other words, I am not a Party slave or drone..

:D

You are my new hero! Your responses to Michale's constant attempts to shift the conversation to deflect from having to admit that his statements are flawed were incredible!!! My hat is off to you!

- Russ

I thought you were congratulating my "legal budgerigars" comment Elizabeth ;)

https://mishtalk.com/2017/02/13/more-on-the-law-and-how-trump-ignored-it/#more-44117

Favorite quote:

The deeper one digs into this mess, the more foolish Trump appears.

It turns out that this 1952 law was superseded by The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.

Looks like the Right Wingery's legal eagles are with legal budgerigars or were trying to pull a fast one.

Michale: What Right Wing website/TV show pointed you to USC Title 18, Section 1182, subsection (f)?

"And even more fucked up is the center of this photo. President Trump, sitting calmly, not involved in any of the uproar, smiling and leaning on his hand, not a care in the entire goddamned world, even as an American ally was facing what it considered to be an existential threat. Imagine that. Imagine so not giving a fuck that you couldn't even be bothered to pretend like this was a serious enough situation to not pose like a serene but stupid frog, let alone just take the fuckin' meeting to a private room. Imagine if President Oba...you know what? Fuck it. At this point, it's obvious that Republicans are mud-encrusted piglets, gleefully suckling at Trump's multiple teats while he gorges himself on the slops and shits all over the pen."

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2017/02/photos-of-trump-that-assure-us-that.html

RECALL AND REPLACE!!

When it's a person with a '-D' after their name, it's "totally different"

Ummm...How so? If she was nominated to head our national security apparatus you might have a point but she wasn't so you don't....

DO try to read the entire comment and use the English language that is in the dictionary before attempting to place some ideological motivation to my comments..

Since you are so non-ideological... we can expect the condemnation of the naming Bannon to having a place on the founders council and the dis invitation of Mattis and the DNI from those meeting except for when it suits Bannon's political aims?

How about some condemnation for the posting of Jared Kushner ... that whole nepotism thing and intertwined business dealings present no issues...

You know what they have in common? both are named to positions similar to Jarrett.... I don't like either one and while Kushner really is only there to feed insider information Bannon is directly like Rasputin....

So really my position is no different than I have stated and is pretty non-ideological...While I do not like either namings and I have issues with Bannon that are on par with your issues on Jarret I have kept my powder dry. The president is entitled to his counsel. My like or dislike in in material to the matter. Their political beliefs for their positions cause me concern BUT...they are not in a direct position to do harm to America without us knowing it until it is too late....

You see how ideologically biased you are??

I sure do.... The real question is do you see how biased you are?

Of course it is..

You just prove my point..

When it's a person with a '-D' after their name, it's "totally different"

.her position was not one that diectly could endanger America..

Yea.. Neither could Rasputin's... :^/

You see how ideologically biased you are??

Totally different...her position was not one that diectly could endanger America...so much like Mnuchin, Puzder, DeVos etc, etc. He was entitled to nominate her, nothing in her past compromised her ability to do the job for which she was selected. Despite what your conservative news sources may tell you...

Now if you had brought up the foolish nomination of Chaz Freeman as DNI... Another person who had the exact same issues as Flynn just different state players. You might be onto something....but then again I was against him from the get go and how long he kept his hat in the ring.

I know this will be hard for you to digest BUT...it really is as simple as if you have been a foreign agent declared or otherwise you should not be allowed anywhere near our national secrets...they are disqualified from holding a clearance and are to be considered suspect the moment they took money from a foreign power or state owned company...No matter which side of the isle you are from. PERIOD, FULL FUCKING STOP, DO NOT PASS GO....

Was there a part of #sackofdicks2016 that you missed?

I wasn't aware that " reach into the sack and grab one, it is going to be big and floppy and is not going to feel good when it is F%^&*&g you in the ass" translated to I am voting for HRC.

I also wasn't aware that pointing out that for the first time in countries history the corporate interest blocks that control our government have put forward two individuals who are ineligible to hold a security clearance and that I could not vote for either one of them also translated into I am supporting HRC.

I will be happy to be proved wrong..

But I won't concede based on your say so.. :D

Only Kick gets that privilege heh

To put it another way if Obama had nominated a similar person you would have made enough pearls by now for a few necklaces....

You mean like Valerie Jarret, Black Panther?? :D

Firstly, you do understand that 1000% is a scientific and mathematical impossibility correct? 100 percent is sufficient for most of us...

Secondly, you have yet again typed faster than your brain can think...you completely ignore the many times I have gone on record against the corporate interest block that calls themselves the Democratic party.

There is NOTHING the Party does that you are willing to publicly question..

Despite the evidence to the contrary around here...

Just because I have other things going on in life that prevent me from posting 18 post missives on some sort of trivial ideological slight by both of the corporate interest blocks that run our country does not mean that I agree with them or not.... It means you don't know nor have the courtesy to ask...

This is a political comment section, not everything requires us to pack our manginas with sand and make pearls as you are want to demand....rather they are to be treated as a minor hemorrhoid and ignored as not being worth the waste of my time or oxygen.

If you were the type that looks into the mirror critically...

Oh I do frequently, every once in a while it is good to shake the sand out of the ole' mangina and stop making pearls.

I have some serious ethical concerns over a vast majority of Trumps cabinet and the manner in which they were pushed through and identical issues which torpedoed previous cabinet picks, yet I have kept my powder dry...

I have kept my powder dry because to the victor goes the spoils... Trump is entitled to his cabinet within reason, an argument similar to one I am on record as pointing out when the NC GOP was up to it's shenanigans... instead of agreeing you went looking for the ideological pearls where none were to be found. My belief is that simple, the corporate interest block leader gets to have the people he needs to execute his agenda....within reason, my agreement with or against is not material to the matter, it is just how our form of government works.

Out of all of the cabinet picks that well quite frankly I do not like, Flynn is the only one I have spoken out against even being allowed to hold the post, as he is the only one who has ethical issues that quite frankly disqualify him without question and directly endanger America.

To put it another way if Obama had nominated a similar person you would have made enough pearls by now for a few necklaces....

While a vast majority of Trumps other cabinet picks have the ability to really screw over the normal folks, and will make decisions I will probably not like. They do not have conflicts that pose a direct danger to America.

Just stop to think about it for one second....out of all of Trumps noms Flynn is the only one that I have come out against from the get go as he should not even be considered. your making pearls where there are none to be had...

If I had hopped on the train after the phone calls came to light you would would have a point....but I haven't so you don't.

And yet, you supported Hillary Clinton for POTUS even though her actions CLEARLY disqualified her from holding a clearence..

You see how you are COMPLETELY enslaved by Party ideology??

All your arguments are based in Party ideology...

You refuse to look into the mirror. Why would you expect me to??

I mean, seriously.. You seem like a logical and rational guy, GT...

You don't find it interesting that EVERYTHING you believe is 1000% in keeping with Democrat Party agenda..

There is NOTHING the Party does that you are willing to publicly question..

That right there should be a HUGE clue for ya...

If you were the type that looks into the mirror critically...

Did the Left Wingery's IQ just drop suddenly when President Trump was elected???

Nope, Just holding a mirror up for you to look into.... if you dangle low hanging fruit ...

Why don't you just say what you mean...

It's perfectly acceptable if a guy with a '-D' after his name does it, but it's traitorous if a guy with a '-R' after his name does it.. :^/

Ummm..I kind of have....You are the one that keeps trying to impose phone calls upon my long held viewpoint

If you had not already achieved terminal logic velocity on the subject you might have something different to say...but you have... so you can only attempt to use the D vs R circular argument while completely ignoring very valid concerns that would disqualify any of us from holding a clearance.

Big whoop....

So...are you saying that FDR was a paid analyst for a state owned propaganda service and received money to support the views of a foreign power and lobby congress on their behalf?

Again something I was pointing out long before the current situation.

I'll believe THAT when I see it....

Ahhhh so it's ONLY traitorous if it's in a PHONE call....

If it's in PERSON, it's perfectly acceptable.. :^/

Why don't you just say what you mean...

It's perfectly acceptable if a guy with a '-D' after his name does it, but it's traitorous if a guy with a '-R' after his name does it.. :^/

I find it rather telling your use of the word "messiah"...Please note I am not attacking your -R based messiah over phone calls... but rather am pointing out his poor selection of a person who should not be allowed to be in charge of national security...

That's YOUR opinion...

But YOU supported Obama so your opinion is suspect...

Yes, Yes, your bias is embarrassingly obvious...

Ahhhh, the old "I know you are but what am I" rebuttal..

Did the Left Wingery's IQ just drop suddenly when President Trump was elected???

You didn't say jack about that...

It would be impossible for me to have had an opinion on it, that you would be aware of, since I was not commenting here back then....or at least that I remember...

Further to the point if I was talking about the phone calls you would have a point...but I am not so you don't.

Because it was no big deal because your messiah has a '-D' after his name...

I find it rather telling your use of the word "messiah"...Please note I am not attacking your -R based messiah over phone calls... but rather am pointing out his poor selection of a person who should not be allowed to be in charge of national security...

If you want to make this simply about phone calls there are other stark differences from the current situation...which again was not mentioned in my post.

Your argument of ideology simply indicates you have nothing in the tank... I have voiced grudging approval for Mattis and Kelly both of which I have had the pleasure to meet and in the case of Kelly have had the "pleasure" of having my ass chewed personally over some choices made when I first took the contract I now hold.

I am more than happy to state I have differing veiws on how we should approach somethings from what Mattis and Kelly hold and when those items come up I will participate if able...

The bias is embarrassingly obvious...

Yes, Yes, your bias is embarrassingly obvious....please do read and use basic English definitions. I was simply pointing out my issues with Flynn which are sound and date to prior to the current scandal du jour.

Alto-

You had asked about the "new process" .... I don't think you will have any issues going to Germany, but I cannot say for sure.

The "new process" seems to be that if you are traveling TO a Latin American country you will be questioned after your boarding pass has been scanned you will be questioned prior to boarding and are subject to a secondary inspection....It does not sit well with certain parts of my constitutional brain...

Since mid-January I have been to three countries in Central and South America and have had three interrogations.

On another front....

If you have Global Entry, it still pays off with the TSA pre...coming back, however, since the imposition of
"extreme vetting" it is kind of worthless. Processing time has gone from 20 to 30 minutes from gate to hotel shuttle, to about an hour. please note that this also impacts known crew members and official travelers.

So while Trump literally just said, everyone is going to be happy, observational data indicates otherwise. those of use that travel and paid to have our backgrounds checked and be vetted at a higher level than average travelers kind of find that it is really sucky that we now have no advantage to getting out of the hell spawn entry points that are MIA and DFW...

Why should anyone believe anything?? Your "predictions" and opinions are NOTHING but partisan and ideological bigotry at work..

There is ZERO credibility here...

Because you didn't bat an eye when your messiah, Obama, sucked up to Mendenev and begged his BFF Putin for "flexibility" until after Obama's re-election..

You didn't say jack about that...

Because it was no big deal because your messiah has a '-D' after his name...

The bias is embarrassingly obvious...

But it's not, so I don't...

The FACTS speak for themselves.

FDR hung out with Stalin...

Big whoop....

For me, as I said when he was nominated, He should not be allowed anywhere near or nations secrets.

What can go wrong placing an unregistered foreign agent in charge of our nations secrets?

The FACTS speak for themselves. A) he was a paid analyst for RT the state funded version of VOA. B) he has received payment and has been documented hanging out publicly with Putin. C) His private security company has changed positions upon being hired by foreign powers most notably Turkey.

The above actions alone prevent him from holding a security clearance, just as Trump is inelgible...(and I did point out Clintons issues as well).

Since I am not the self declared military expert, but rather am just some working class shlub who has to maintain a clearance, I and many in the military have issues with having a person in charge of national security who cannot hold a clearance and seems to shift his point of view to support whomever is giving him money and is for all intents and purposes a foreign agent.

To me these issues are just to big to ignore and it is unfortunate that the entirety of the story is being under reported and that the right which supposedly is supposed to be the law and order party and better at securing America (I hate the term "homeland" it is rather WW2 Teutonic sounding, we have America, which is more than just a piece of land...) completely ignored these ethical issues...but hey, they would never do whhat they just spent 8 years accusing the dems of doing....right?

The sooner Flynn is out, the safer we will be...

Cutesy dig with the President Trump voodoo doll...

http://theworleys.net/temp/cutesy.jpg

I hate cutesy.... :^/

You ARE new here.. :D

That's every day of my Weigantian life.. :D

I calls 'em as I sees 'em...

And I have been correct a LOT more often than I have been wrong of late, so..... :D

Not about me, you haven't. Your droning and prattling on and on with your BS about me is utter nonsense. Try NOT putting words in people's mouths you know little about. How would you like it if someone posted things about you... with the exception that those things were actually true? LOL :D

But, credit where credit is due..

You DO have a valid point..

In the reality of the here and now, there aren't many Blue States anymore.. :D heh

Remember the fabled BIG BLUE WALL?? Crumbled like one of President Trump's buildings.. :D

Who could have POSSIBLY predicted that!??

Oh.... wait... :D

"JM,

But if you REALLY want to talk about Facebook People..."

Really? That's all you got that you could come up with? A self-promotional ad by the Trump Administration itself?

"Soros's funding of violent protest groups is well documented.."

You do know that has been debunked numerous times and has only been promoted by right wing conspiracy sites that never offer any real proof, other than possibly the fact that he has made some contributions to progressive organizations.

And in any case, it still doesn't do anything to prove that constituents outside a congressman's own district are being paid to protest that particular congressman at all.

But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night, right? :-D

It is, insofar as it's Democrat Senator is concerned...

Which is what we were talking about...

And Manchin is VERY popular in WV, regardless of him being a Democrat..

Do you honestly believe that any other Democrat could win WV??

Ergo, if the Democrat Party primaries Manchin and Manchin LOSES, the Dem who beat him in the Primary will get nuked in the General...

If the Democrat Party primaries Manchin and Manchin prevails, it might just piss him off enough that he joins the GOP...

Either way, it's typical of the Democrat Party in the here and now..

It doesn't know what the frak it's doing...

Manchin's vote earns him his fifth Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week, but we suspect it won't be his last.

Hand a Blue State over to the GOP.... What could possibly go wrong!! :D

In what alternate reality is West Virginia "a Blue State"? *LOL*

It's so ingrained and part of ya'all's psyche, you can't acknowledge the facts and reality...

Ya'all are like alcoholics who insist that they have no problem with drinking as they are busted for the 10th time for deuce...

Perhaps you can offer FACTS to support your claim...

Of course I can, but then it's infinitely more fun watching you make yourself look foolish prattling on and on about what I supposedly believe.

TRANSLATION:
I GOT NUTTIN

My point is proven.. :D

And THAT is why ya'all are always wrong when it comes to President Trump..

Because you see things as you WISH them to be, not as they really are..

You see a Democrat Party that is viable and vibrant, but the reality is that the Democrat Party is so far out of the mainstream that they simply CANNOT find their way back...

You see a Democrat Party that is relevant but the reality is the Democrat Party is in the worst shape than it's been in a century...

With ya'all's ideological blinders you simply cannot SEE reality, let alone acknowledge it..

It's like Liz said about arrogance..

It's so ingrained and part of ya'all's psyche, you can't acknowledge the facts and reality...

And yet EVERYTHING you say and EVERYTHING you believe is 1000% inline with EVERYTHING that is the Democrat Party agenda...

Yea.. YOU don't have a Party line.. :D

Perhaps you are confusing your own made up BS as my position?

Tell me one thing that differentiates you from the Democrat Party or the Left Wingery line....

You can't....

Of course I can, but then it's infinitely more fun watching you make yourself look foolish prattling on and on about what I supposedly believe. LOL :)

And you can PROVE that, right?? :D

No?? Didna think so... :D

You said the states didn't present any evidence to prove their case, and I said "educate yourself" and gave you a link to evidence presented. The states actually represent the constitutional rights of their constituents.

Their constituents had no dog in the hunt...

Ergo, their claims were based on nothing but ideology...

Except MY predictions with regards to President Trump were based on FACTS..

Ya'all's predictions with regards to President Trump are ALL solely based on ideology and wishful thinking.

That's why I was always right and ya'all were always wrong.. :D

So, your prediction is that Flynn, Spicer and Conway will all be in the same place in six month's time?

Yep.... Care to wager??? :D

"Ahhhh

So, the states, which support your Left Wingery agenda did good and the Government, headed by a guy with an '-R' after his name, whom you hate, did crappy..

Yea... NO AGENDA there.. :D"

Oh, surprise! More made up BS from you that supposedly represents what I think. Wrong! Sad!

You said the states didn't present any evidence to prove their case, and I said "educate yourself" and gave you a link to evidence presented. The states actually represent the constitutional rights of their constituents.

Try not reading more into it than that. LOL :}

So, your prediction is that Flynn, Spicer and Conway will all be in the same place in six month's time?

It is fun. And you know what, I might get a 50-1 chance come in. Like you did.

Hannity - we know that idiot will believe anything.

Alex Jones - the fun watching him get tripped up daily as his addled brain spins one conspiracy after the other would be timeless.

Dana Perino - if they could talk her into the job again

Once again, I am amazed you keep blithely making prediction after prediction after prediction.

AND NONE OF THEM have ever come to pass..

Yer giving the Global Warming fanatics a run for their money in the MOST PREDICTIONS THAT NEVER HAPPENED contest.. :D

How elitist of you..

You make a fine liberal... :D

Michale just won the "calling the kettle black" award for at least a decade.

du auch... :D

Don't worry about me, I'll be fine. Worry about the wheels coming of the White House bus. Flynn, Spicer, Conway - which will be first to go?

My money is on Flynn - he is just too much of a liability.

Conway will be judged just to be a victim of SNL and CNN for a few more weeks and is probably smart enough to stop with the blatant lies.

Spicer won't be replaced until they find somebody willing to take his place - so there will be a long dig down to the bottom of the barrel - they might even get right down there to Stephen Miller, which would be exquisite (at least for comic purposes).

No, the ones I was laughing at a few hundred comments ago.

"Indignation"? ROTFL :D

Michale just won the "calling the kettle black" award for at least a decade.

Trump's is the Keister Administration. It is amazing/disturbing to see what this guy routinely pulls out of his ass. Yet another new normal.

And yet, President Trump's approval rating continues to rise...

So, apparently, ya are wrong.. AGAIN..

I guess yer getting used to that, eh TS?? :D

You mean, those poor farmers you were commiserating with a hundred comments ago??

So, basically, you will side with ANYONE if it's against President Trump.. even if you were attacking them before..

I really hope you don't hurt your neck from all the 180s ya'all are doing. :D

I am going by what you say..

Don't blame me.. It's YOUR position..

It wasn't about PT. Senator Warren was reading a letter written by Coretta Scott King about Jeff Sessions.

So??? It's just a letter from ONE of the King family... According to you, it has no relevance to anything..

Good one. I'd add two words just to twist the knife:

Trump's most impressive accomplishment has been to make the failing Saturday Night Live great again.

And after their assets have been seized as a downpayment, or maybe even full payment of the moronic wall.

Not a peep about that criminal asset forfeiture from 45 or his minions.

So we, the taxpayers, are going to have to pay for a completely pointless ego trip, and now we are hearing the price has doubled.

I'll pay for the wall happily once 5,000 employers of illegal immigrants are in long term prison terms and we still have an illegal immigration problem.

Yet, you have NO PROBLEM when Elizabeth Warren invokes "merely one of them" as MLK's family when it's against President Trump...

You see how logically untenable your position is???

My "position"? So you just make up whatever load of BS you want and then call it someone's "position"? LOL

It wasn't about PT. Senator Warren was reading a letter written by Coretta Scott King about Jeff Sessions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBXYQGnABEc

Perhaps if she had been reading a disparaging letter about PT it wouldn't have broken that Senate rule. LOL :)

Trump's is the Keister Administration. It is amazing/disturbing to see what this guy routinely pulls out of his ass. Yet another new normal.

Yeah, can you believe they foisted Mike "Own Goal" Flynn on 45 and insisted on the asinine wording of the Muslim Ban EO?

Bad Democrats!

I don't know about the ENTIRETY and every Weigantian, but for me, yup - the sooner this clown is gone the better.

So, you don't have a problem with her advocacy and activism and her employment with Fox News??

"Indignation"? ROTFL :D

I calls 'em as I sees 'em...

And I have been correct a LOT more often than I have been wrong of late, so..... :D

I saids it befores and I'll says it agains..

Democrats are getting played by President Trump...

So being a "a right-wing activist and an employee of Fox News" is absolutely not a problem with you?? :D

Isn't it great to live in a country where we are free to have an opinion and be different? *AND* She actually gets paid to give her opinion so... as the saying goes... more power to her.

But I'll remind you of this indignation when you spout off about a single person and ascribe them to an entire group.. :D

"Indignation"? ROTFL :D

OK, great.. Does that mean you will stop bitching and moaning about President Trump?? :D

Manchin's vote earns him his fifth Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week, but we suspect it won't be his last.

Yea, Democrats should PRIMARY his ass!!!

Hand a Blue State over to the GOP.... What could possibly go wrong!! :D

Considering the utterly dismal electoral picture the Democrats are facing in 2018, one would think that they wouldn't antagonize anyone that might go over to the GOP.. :D

From a tactical point of view.......

I'm just saying..

Manchin's vote earns him his fifth Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week, but we suspect it won't be his last.

Yea, Democrats should PRIMARY his ass!!!

Hand a Blue State over to the GOP.... What could possibly go wrong!! :D

Considering the utterly dismal electoral picture the Democrats are facing in 2018, one would think that they wouldn't antagonize anyone that might go over to the GOP.. :D

From a tactical point of view.......

I'm just saying..

The fact that the Left Wingery would require evidence of necessity to combat islamic terrorism proves how moronic and far off the reservation the Left Wingery has become..

3-0
-Hillary Clinton Twit about the liberal judges' ruling on President Trump's Executive Order...

PA, WI, MI
-KellyAnne Conway's version of 3-0 in response..

hehehehehehehe

Now THAT's funny!! :D

I was also looking at Hillary's Twit account...

Wife, mom, grandma, women+kids advocate, FLOTUS, Senator, SecState, hair icon, pantsuit aficionado, 2016 presidential candidate.

Hmmmmm Nothing there about PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES..

:D

This is what passes for "facts" around here....

"Oh, it's probably true so we should just kill 'im!!"

Sad....

So, if I understand you correctly, it's the fervent goal of the ENTIRETY of the Left Wingery, including each and every Weigantian to make President Trump a one-term POTUS and that goal will be pursued with a passion and zeal unheard of since the last administration..

Hmmmmmm

Didn't ya'all severely castigate and demonize the Right for that EXACT attitude???

Who would have EVER thunked it that, when a GOP POTUS entered the White House, the entirety of the Left Wingery would act EXACTLY as they accused the Right of acting...

Who could have POSSIBLY predicted THAT would happen!??

Oh... wait.... :D

Thirty-three of the 72 individuals from the seven terror-associated countries were convicted of very serious terror-related crimes, and were sentenced to at least three years imprisonment.

Looks like a fact to me....

Do you have any facts to refute it???

We send terrorists convicted of "very serious terror-related crimes" to prison for a whopping 3 whole years???

You find it unusual that a terrorist who committed a very serious crime was just given a small slap on the wrist, likely from a liberal judge??

Where have YOU been for the last 8 years??

Are we sadists?

Nope.. Just coming off a VERY lame administration who thought terrorism was a police matter and who had very liberal judges giving stern admonishments... :^/

It also claims that at least one person was convicted for using a weapon of mass destruction against our country and sentenced to 15 yrs in prison.

Yea??? So???

Regardless, the simple fact is the Left Wingery claimed that the countries on President Obama's list that President Trump used had nothing to do with terrorism...

The facts say otherwise..

The Left Wingery is wrong.. AGAIN...

Holy Crap! If only 5% of this article is true, 45 should be facing impeachment. Sadly, probably most of it is true. The nature of these things is that the general public cannot know for sure until a senior official goes on the record.

Just as a note, the Observer is owned by 45's son-in-law and Ivanka's husband Jared Kushner. This article must be prompting some interesting family dinner chats.

http://observer.com/2017/02/donald-trump-administration-mike-flynn-russian-embassy/

Not only that, the timing of the apology call was seen as additionally humiliating. 45 needed to make sure President Xi was placated before the Japanese premier's visit.

Having spent time working with officials in both the Chinese and Japanese treasury departments, the antipathy towards Japan from China is more intense than most Americans would expect, and the Japanese are either very diplomatic or oblivious to the intensity.

The good news is that this means somebody in the White House has 45 on short leash and understands the reality of foreign relations.

With FACTS of your own, is probably too much to ask for.. :^/

If there were any FACTS presented, that might have been a possibility for me.

The article makes some odd claims:

Thirty-three of the 72 individuals from the seven terror-associated countries were convicted of very serious terror-related crimes, and were sentenced to at least three years imprisonment.

We send terrorists convicted of "very serious terror-related crimes" to prison for a whopping 3 whole years??? Are we sadists?

From the website publishing the report cited in the article regarding where it got the information:

The report is no longer available on the Senate website, but a summary published by Fox News is available here.

The spreadsheet doesn't seem to have any notation that indicates it is a government report. It also claims that at least one person was convicted for using a weapon of mass destruction against our country and sentenced to 15 yrs in prison.

https://mishtalk.com/2017/02/12/killing-the-trade-golden-goose-farmers-rattled-by-trumps-nafta-rescinding-plans/#more-44091

The key point made here is the size of export markets:

Moreover, with a slowing population growth rate at home, more than 97 percent of the anticipated population growth over the next 35 years is anticipated to take place outside of US borders.

So if 45 is stupid enough to start trade wars or screw around with trade deals, the long term loser is America - not just Ag, but all export industries will lose their main source of future growth. Thus the larger companies will tilt future investment overseas, and upcoming U.S. born companies will look to offshore sooner.

Our share of World trade has been fairly level over the last 20-30 years, despite goosing from our soaring trade deficits, so if we are to remain the most desirable single nation to have as a trading partner we either need to suddenly and dramatically grow our GDP so we can afford more imports, or further expand our already outsize trade imbalance. Neither of these is likely to happen, so over the next 20-30 years we are going to drop down the table of largest importers, losing our top place for the first time since probably the 19th Century. This will not improve our chances of defining trade on preferential terms, even if we suddenly decide we want to help our workers who are victims of capitalism.

I can only hope that the business community start laying down the law to the 45 regime and tell them that they can call the TPP whatever they want - The Trump Perfect Plan if his ego is that fragile - but a trade deal with the fastest growing economies of the Asia-Pacific region that also doesn't include China and is basically on our terms is a bloody good idea and one we should take while we can.

And yet EVERYTHING you say and EVERYTHING you believe is 1000% inline with EVERYTHING that is the Democrat Party agenda...

Yea.. YOU don't have a Party line.. :D

Tell me one thing that differentiates you from the Democrat Party or the Left Wingery line....

You can't....

Ergo, a Party line is ALL you have...

Of course, "fake news site" being defined as any site that doesn't toe the Left Wingery agenda line... :D

So, any chance you could actually refute the FACTS presented???

With FACTS of your own, is probably too much to ask for.. :^/

Ahhhh

So, the states, which support your Left Wingery agenda did good and the Government, headed by a guy with an '-R' after his name, whom you hate, did crappy..

Yea... NO AGENDA there.. :D

Yet, you have NO PROBLEM when Elizabeth Warren invokes "merely one of them" as MLK's family when it's against President Trump...

You see how logically untenable your position is???